₦airaland Forum

pingu2k5:
What some Nigerians don't understand is that when the President said MEND had nothing to do with IBB (Independence Bomb Blasts), he meant that what MEND stands for is contrary to what the perpatrators of the blasts are/were trying to achieve with the blasts. If Okah is linked to the blasts, he is not representing MEND or the Niger Delta on this deed but rather his selfish and criminal interest while using MEND as a cover.

i will say you should save your energy in trying to explain to them, they will not understand. its being explained over and over.

@poster the end is near

hinlovolt:
MEND say we do am. GEJ abi na JEGA or na AJEG say una no do am because I know una. U cee that time wey una dey set am up no be una been dey do am na , .
JONATHAN abi na current caretaker you dun dey do anyhow; oh boi, u no be obama. CRUSH MEND for this few months wen u dey office.
Imagine you dey fear MEND "People when nigeria go still mend very soon", na him u dey fear pass God. Hausa go soon vex pieces, igbo go soon give MEND levels, yoruba go soon do blockade for the whole ND. your mis-yaning dun dey heavy pass atmospheric pressure.

By d way, beaf or na faeb, U be heavy hypocrite #1 of Nairaland since wey i don dey observe nairaland comments.

welcome bros. but bros na ur first post be this and u they call somebody hypocrite already. and let me ask u, when did MEND say na them do am did u listen to words of ex mend generals? but anyway welcome to NL madness

IBB= Independent Bomb Blast

jabbok:
who are you? Let me guess, mmmmhh a Presidential interpreter

just trying to break it down for people like you that didnt pass through primary school or fail to attend English classes

jabbok:
True. GEJ would have been gone a long time ago if our people take words seriously. People have been impeached for lesser crimes.I will only add somebody comment to your line  -naijaking1, NLD

are u this dumb?? must you post olodo jati jati. tell us how one president that have been impeached for a statement.was george Bush impeached for saying Iraq invasion was a divine call??was OBJ impeached for saying 2007 will be do or die affair?? in your mind, you think you are intelligent and the best from your family. " A man will never know that he is stupid until he knows stupid character"

flexshop:
Inasmuch as i would not grant you the honor of exchanging words with you, i would give you the benefit of the doubt that you understand english

Mr president said nt Ima Niboro

Case 1-'they are terrorists and NOT MEND,'

this implies or infers that Terrorists maybe alqeada or whatever group carried out the attacks for whatever motive be it political,religious etcetera and NOT MEND.  Oxford advanced dictionary defines NOT as a word expressing Negation.
This words came after MEND claimed responsibility implying that he negated gbomo jomo's claim thereby absolving MEND of responsibility in any way.

since you have claimed to be an English professor. i guess your oxford dico is beside your pillow, lets go back to Eng101
the statement read "they are terrorists not MEND. The name of MEND that operates in Niger Delta was only used"

(1) you would have been right if the statement was only "they are terrorists not MEND" because of the word NOT but the second statement nullifies it.
(2) the second statement read "The name of MEND that operates in Niger Delta was only used" because of the phrase was only used changing NOT from an affirmative word to a conditional word.
(3) merge the two statements together. tell us what see. im waiting in anticipation for your reply

flexshop:
I will try and ignore the your insults.
As for the other part

Case 2-The name of MEND that operates in Niger Delta was only used"

I beg to disagree.inasmuch as Mr. President is much more informed than any of us, but when issues like this come up,please spare me the details.

1. MEND gives 5days warning to security agencies through jomo gbomo
2. Mend gives warnings hours before explosion even to a media house
3. Mend claims responsibility
4. The attack is similar to that carried out by MEND in warri earlier (which has as usual been swept unda d carpet)

. what is the relationship between your itemized opinion and GEJ statement exonerating MEND. what we are asking you is to read this statement again and try to understand it "they are terrorists not MEND. The name of MEND that operates in Niger Delta was only used"

If We agree Mend carried out the Warri attack And a group is using d name Mend.of course sir,militants are using the name MEND.

[/quote]you and who agree?
I rest my case,
[quote]

you are trying too hard to make sense to yourself please take it easy on urself

ogb5:
can youn explain what you understand by the statement

"The name of MEND that operates in Niger Delta was only used"

thank you so much for your post. at least there are still sensible people left on NL.
the guy is so daft that he should be living in the zoo

flexshop:
'they are terrorists and NOT MEND'

Should d bolded portion be translated to SWAHILI before you understand it.
Geez

shut the f**k up and continue smoking ur bestfriend. dindinrin oponu jati jati

read it again "they are terrorists not MEND. The name of MEND that operates in Niger Delta was only used"

snakova:
@bee jaay
Of course we understand. Goodluck said on NTA network news, MEND did not carry out the attack. He then invited Ex-MEND to further his claims. Now they and mumu you are saying they are not exonerating anyone. You are the one to re-examine your brain cos its seems to have a lot of poo coming out of it. As for Dokpesi singing/squirming, what do you expect? This is a man threatened with death for something he might know nothing about. Don't you think Goodluck has the power to incacerate him without any trial or evidence? why do think he was released? I watched one very interesting show on politics on AIT that i enjoyed watching hitherto till yesterday's episode. Sully abu, Jonathan zwingina and one scared comrade were invited to shed more light on the whole bomb saga. What a lopsided composition. Even the usually critical host was finding it difficult to complete his sentences,stammering. So, you see, all this politics of intimidation should be stopped, rather if GEJ was more sensible, he should have set about winning the hearts of Nigerians, and turned the tragedy to his advantage. Instead, he chose to battle it out with an old war-horse, dishonoring the memory of my lost friend and classmate. As for your discredited 'phone call', i think we would all like to see 'credible' sources. Dimwit

are you this stupid?? where did u school? i asked because you cant seems to understand a single sentence. i doubt you go to school and if u do, u definitely didn't write any exam cos if u do, u would av at least read 1000 pages of notes or handout. your parent should be crying for wasting their hard earned money. u are no different from mr ibu. dindinrin alai ni irori

jabbok:
What happened to this statement below?:

"Okah is a drowning man" - President Jonathan

[size=15pt]Goodluck Ebele Jonathan Azikiwe[/size] [size=15pt]| Awolowo Belewa[/size] soon to be appended = [size=15pt]Inconsistency incorporated![/size]

must you post why switching to another statement when u are still unable to understand your first first post. just because u want to increase the number of your post. this is arrant nonsense. please grow up.
@faeb if you want to go down the intellectual road with people, u should atleast pick the average intelligent fellow and not those that just want to hit their keyboard.

“We know those behind the attack and the persons sponsoring them;[color=#006600] [color=#006600]they are terrorists not MEND. [color=#006600]The name of MEND that operates in Niger Delta was only used[/b][/color]. I grew up in the Niger Delta so nobody can claim to know Niger Delta than myself, because I am from Niger Delta”[/color]

—President Goodluck Jonathan


"When President Jonathan, during a visit to the National Hospital to commiserate with victims of the bombing, said the terrorist act [b]should not merely be ascribed to MEND, what he was simply saying was that nobody should use the name of any organization to cover up a heinous crime. He was not absolving MEND or any other group of blame or culpability"

-Mr. Sully Abu(director of media and publicity Jonathan campaign organisation)
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please read it again and tell your us if u now understand

jabbok:
^
For u If you can read

“We know those behind the attack and the persons sponsoring them;[color=#006600] they are terrorists not MEND. The name of MEND that operates in Niger Delta was only used[/b]. I grew up in the Niger Delta so nobody can claim to know Niger Delta than myself, because I am from Niger Delta”[/color]

—President Goodluck Jonathan


"When President Jonathan, during a visit to the National Hospital to commiserate with victims of the bombing, said the terrorist act [b]should not merely be ascribed to MEND, what he was simply saying was that nobody should use the name of any organization to cover up a heinous crime. He was not absolving MEND or any other group of blame or culpability"

-Mr. Sully Abu(director of media and publicity Jonathan campaign organisation)

are u sure u can read? cos im begining to doubt that you go to school. u posted something your and yet u cant understand it. im so sorry for your parents. it seems they just wasted their fund on u.

samoks:
There is nothing like MEND abi? I don hear you, just watch this SPACE,

are you that deluded. read the post again. if u didnt get the message read it again. if u didnt again, i lose hope

abbey621:
you think with your anus! Having said that, i believe your real problem is lack of information, how did the bomb threat start, who claimed responsibility, what does the S.S.S. know? All these can enlighten you, M.E.N.D is alive and kicking butts, but the ignoramus of a president called JONATHAN  would rather betray his country than his own tribe, the man cannot think for himself, that is just too obvious otherwise he would go after M.E.N.D once and for all before they take over the country? Don't think it can't happen o, because the first step to REBELLION in a nation is to divide the loyalty among it's populace.

and u think with ur prick. idiot any mend that didnt take the amnesty deal had since become terrorist unless fg didnt mean their words which i doubt it.fg stated clearly that any mend member that didnt take the amnesty deal after the deadline will be tagged as terrorist and what i think gej meant when he said it wasnt mend that did the bombing.foolish boy go back to my post and read between the lines. if u are holding on the mail supposedly received, any body can do that, its called mail imprersonation, i dont need ur password t o do that. if u dont beleive it next time u receive mail to supply ur acct info pls do since its from ur bank.just because u can type doesnt make u an enlightened bagger.its only people like u that fall for this crap. we are wiser now.ibb try another one this will not work.

there is nothing like mend.they dont exist again that is why they are called ex. they are now terrorist. that was the fg stands as at when the deal was beeig brokered. they gave them ultimatum to accept the amnesty deal or be called terrorist after the deadline.this was even done by UMYAu guys shd remember this unless and ofcourse u think with ur hands. i dont know y ciroma and his fellow are shouting.what gej did is exactly what any right thinking leader shd do. ofcourse there will be personal damages just like what we are seeing but it would av been worse if the fg accused mend. gej is taking the fall for the sake of the country. is that not what we want a leader that is ready to sacrife himself/herself, now we av it and we want to chase him away. i fear for my country.

GEJ was ryt to exonorate mend.firstly i could remember when the amnesty stuff was going on, the fg gave them an ultimatum, and that whosoever doesnt take the deal after the time will tagged terorist. so technically if gej should call the bombers terrorist and exonorate mend, he is right.
secondly the supposedly mail received from mend could av been a mail impersonation. in the world of IT i dont your password to send email that will bear ur username, anybody can do that. that is why you get all manners of emails from fraudstar thinking they are from gtbank,fg, or powerful corperation.the mail myt av been check and seen to be fake by the scurity and the findings relay to the president.mend is a faceless org but the members are known by the govt.
its just silly when read people comments and they display their stupidity.they sounds as if they type with their ass cos they forget their brain in their toilet.you guys shdnt come here to display ur insanity, learn how to read between the lines and endevour to think twice before hitting send button

Opotuniti:
KWAM 1 go sing JUJU for National Assembly lololololol!!!!

who is this mofo? juju my foot

tkb417:
@Bluetooth
I don't understand what ure saying. Wyclef jean wanted to be President- I don't know the school he went to, arnold Governed California- don't know d school he went to; George Opon Weah was a footballer and he wanted to be the President of Liberia. When did formal education become a pre-requisite to seeking elective posts anywhere in the world? Politics is all about delivering humane projects to your constituency. Are u saying an illiterate do know know his constituency needs light or good roads?

Ol boi drop it; the man just like the professors can seek for elective posts in the country and in any other country.

Gbam. Bluetooth go and sleep cos its now obvious that u are thinking double or u av started ur smoking again

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[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=366462.msg6868537#msg6868537 date=1286134461]I can speak conviniently on Awolowo hear.He was educated as lawyer and a trade union leader and has a high spirit in nationalist movement in Nigeria.[/quote]and not a political scientist as you suggested

[/quote]you will agree with me that as an academician,he still had genuine inspiration that drove him into politics despite the fact that he already has a leadership experience as a union leader.

[quote]

Are you saying that Wasiu Ayinde is not being drive by genuine inspiration and who told you that Wasiu didnt have leadership xperience, mind you he has successfully lead his group for more than two decade, if not that good the group would have splitted up. im not a fan of wasiu neither am i to any of the musicians but its high time nigerians look inward rather than placing so much on certification when it comes to good governance. trust me he has more to lose if he goes there and fumbles. his families are on ground not like bankole or bukola saraki people will play B Ball on them.

bluetooth i want to contest for senatorial seat of my constituency, my qyualifications are leaving certificate,SSCE,BSC,MSC,PHD,PROF.,NTA,AIT,CHANNELS etc. pls support me and be my campaign manager. you make me laugh in swahili

From what I've seen so far,governance is not a selfess service.it has become a paid occupation and geniocracy must be applied to have the best men in politics.that iwu screwed up as a professor does not mean that a bus driver would have performed better even when such an illiterate may not even know how to read or write.take a look at the Nass and you will discover that the educated ones have contributed more while some are just like normal crowds in the chamber.i hope you know the calibre of such people = the ''let's consider him even when he has nothing to offer group''

because politicians in naija have turned governance into a paid occupation doesnt mean the traditional meaning has changed and i think you know better.

Maple:
The late Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa a.k.a The Golden Voice of Africa speaking in London after Nigeria declares its independence.

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this is what we call sefless service to ones community. please Bluetooth does it mean that Sir Tafawa Balewa studied political science?[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=366462.msg6868255#msg6868255 date=1286130407]I'm not concerned about superior arguement but what I'm trying to state is that we need more than a nuisance to be our public officers.[/quote]so because he is a musician he as automatically turn to a nuisance please another meanifull reason

[/quote]As you said about career,Career is an occupation which a person undertake for a long period of his  lifetime.so if a person is going  into full time politics and is going to take a large years of his lifetime,it automatically becomes a career and such person should be prepared in whatever capacity to be successful in such career[/b]If only you can agree with me on  what career is and you can also agree that politics is a career,then i will agree that all politicians are supposed to be graduates of political science or other political related courses.The problem with Nigeria is that a petroleum engineer ends up working in a bank and we think it's right whereas,it's very wrong.Why do we have political science as a course in the university if it's not to train students the art of politics and possibly make  a career out of it, I have a friend who has a [b]degree in local government administration and i was wondering how someone could have studied such until he sat me down and i learnt a lot from him even up to the art of manipulating and commiting fraud without traces.
[/qu]what is your definition of a very long time? what i could summarize from your write up is that political office holder should be graduate of political science else they will not perform (what a statement!!!). are you telling us that Abraham Lincoln,Alexander the great and several others were political science graduate was is not from this people experience that political science came as a course?[quote author=dayokanu link=topic=366462.msg6868478#msg6868478 date=1286133462]Which of Barack Obama, Awolowo, AKintola, Azikwe, Bill Clinton, George Bush or Reagan is a career Politician.

Most of them were Lawyers, Businessmen, Engineers, Journalists

i wonder ooooooooooooooooooo

lannre:
Governance transcend beyond having a career in Politics, is just like saying no  Chartered Accountants  will perpetrate fraud, or those Chartered bankers (Erastus and co ) will bring about the changes you talk about. Essence of  Governance is governance is to attain the highest level of transparency, accountability and integrity. All these  I believe will be in that "University of Good Governance"  Now the outcome: the Human Resources to implement that knowledge acquired. How do you think they will govern like a professional, they do attend seminars,workshops  , they have blueprints,"white prints" , so many proposals. But this is a Charly boy show. (anything can happen here Bluetooth) I believe Nigeria is probably one of the easiest countries to govern on earth,reason being that Nigerians have this can do spirit that is quite rare in several other countries and they are very intelligent, highly innovative, hard working people.What is needed is a leadership with direction,that's what we lack,I am not a democratic romanticist , but what I do know is that it is a lot harder today to develop any country than it was say 50 years ago,and the more we wait,the harder it becomes.

well said

lannre:
so no one can do it better

Believe me there is no correlation with certification and administration especially in a Charly boy show country (where anything can happen.) If the firewood seller is prudent enough to save and have a graduate as his son. And most Nigerian professors are "wise" enough to make the educational sectors an "enviable " one.

tell them. i wonder how some people can be so gullible to think that certifications means governance.

lannre:
so no one can do it better

Believe me there is no correlation with certification and administration especially in a Charly boy show country (where anything can happen.) If the firewood seller is prudent enough to save and have a graduate as his son. And most Nigerian professors are "wise" enough to make the educational sectors an "enviable " one.

tell them.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=366462.msg6867565#msg6867565 date=1286122728]Until politics is taken as a career,then we can begin to see changes in our present democracy.It's just like saying bankers or medical doctors are not supposed to be educated.Make it a profession,let people study what governance is all about in a formal and refined way and you will see the result we always wanted.
this approach of let everyone contest even when they have nothing to offer is what is killing us.[/quote]are u saying that political office seekers should go to school to study political science first before contesting.Politics is not a career but a sefless service to the people thats why its defined as govt for the people by the people and for the benefit of the people. if u say people should take it up as a career then u are saying that a fresh graduate can go into politics immediately he finish his/her NYSC. if i should take it as career how im i suppose to survive without stealing money (tell me). let me ask you did J.F kenedy, G.Bush, Tony Blair, Musharaf, Kofi Annan, Mandele took it as a career? if you say yes to this thats end of story.

@Bluetooth u disappointed me. i use to love your contributions on this forum but you are so wrong on this one. can u please check your so called english dictionary and tell me the OXFORD meaning of a CAREER. [color=Black]Medicine, Engineering, Finance, Law, Art, Music. are they not a career as your dictionary describe it. what is the difference between Wasiu, Micheal jackson, Jay Z, Onyeka Owenu, Owomumi(graduate), Sound Sultan(Graduate). tell us if there is any different. just some times back Jay Z and Warren Buffet had a meeting debating how to donate fund to the poor community, something that ur so called literate cannot do.just because Wasiu Aying grown up on the street of Lagos makes u think he is not capable( remember that there is already a certification procedure for office seekers, going by that it means he has the necessary credential to contest by your definition). please don't show your ignorance more than you have already done. Arnold became the governor of California (a movie start for that matter. whats your take on that?)Wyclef wanted to be president but was disqualify not because he happens to be a musician but because he hasnt be staying in the country for some number of years. Omisore won from Prison, Patricia is an hair Dresser(already bagged national award),Ganiyu Olododo( former chief of staff, commissioner, and current head of service, in kwara state just got his NCE certificate no more than 4 to 5yrs ago and he has one time be the Chairman of a local govt), i know some commissioners in kwara state that are stack illiterate. Bluetooth pls wake up and understand there is difference between governance and what your mentality tells you. these people you think you are mocking are successful people in their field and they are very close to the people, they run away just like Bankole will do after his tenure has ended. [/color]

kakshi123:


where are u guys now?, come and tell us were EUR is going is that what u want to do till u are 50 years, buy eurusd sell ponmo etc pls lets keep the hope alive oo dont goooooo!!!


@bee jay how did u escape the deleting bot?? your post is long

i dont know.may be luck

kakshi123:
They have come again, why not make all the money first and take us all to dinner instead of trying to sell us a system that will make us millions for 100usd

dont mind the losers, i dont why anybody will wannna sell out their winning strategies. it took more than a decade b4 the turtle system was finally revealed after so much prressure.it wasnt even revealed collectively rather some kind of a betrayal by one of the member

This is thread is becoming very interesting. People come people go. Trade callers come and go, now we have another one. How long are u going to last.people are just too gullible

Somebody posted something that read “Great mind share ideas” thats what this thread was suppose to stand for but nah. I came to this forum advocating that people should stop calling trades instead share ideas instead everybody was calling for my head. Some other guy came came bragging about how much he have in his account and how people are queuing to have him trade for them ( i laugh in Swahili). Where is he now?
Forex is not what people think, its just like every other career (Medicine, Engineering, Sciences, Law e.t.c.). it requires great work and not just sitting infront of ur PC watching candles and tweaking indicators u know nothing about.
I have met lot of self acclaimed pros in this business and after talking with them for 10 minutes, i understand who they are. I don’t need to see ur trading acct before i know who u are( if i need somebody to trade for me, i don’t need to see ur acct before i will know whether u are capable or not.our conversation will speak volume). You don’t just wake up one day and say u want to become a doctor or pronounced urself as a doctor without passing thru primary up to university level (just because u have a key point on GYTON textbook). The same thing for Forex. U don’t just wake up one day and pronounce urself a forex trader just because u have read some stuffs , and being able to design ur platform with fancy indicators.
I have met traders with a very fancy design on their platforms, and when i asked them the underlying background of the indicators they have on their pc and why they are using it, they immediately turn to a dullard. Many people don’t even understand the calculation that went into the making of the indicator they are using ( and why those variables in the calculation are used), talk less of knowing why the originator design it. For instance i once met a supposedly called trader, and after we have xchanged greetings, the first thing he asked is “do u trade using fundamental or technical” ( i just laugh). This is the first question people ask u when u said u are a trader. the next question they will ask will be what indicator do u use or what system do u trade with (imagine).
My advice is if u really think u wanna become a trader then train urself as one.there is a difference between a qualified nurse and a quack trained in a medicine store ( though people might address both as nurse but i guess we all know better).Forex is one form of Financial Market there are many more (index, futures,option,bond,interest rate,real estate e.t.c.). u need to start by doing a detail analysis on all of this and trust me, u will begin to evolve. Find out the academic stands on trading using ur indicators. Many people don’t even know what is called the RANDOM MARKET THEORY or even EFFICIENT MARKET HYPOTHESIS. You first need to understand all this (though not compulsory but an eye opening) and once u can prove that the academics are wrong then u are on ur path to becoming a professional respected by all
I would have love to go on and on but im not really the typing type. This is going to be my 3rd or 4th post on this thread cos i don’t really have time but there are few of us that wanna help and give back to the people. We started this on the other forum b4 it was hijacked (forex trading discussion thread)
I also read through one guy post where he said there are no successful scalpers. For education sake, there are plenty. Have u ever heard of “Arbitraguers, Spread Traders,Volatility traders”. My guy pls don’t say that again cos u will only be mocking urself.

thanks for the enlightment everybody.its being so educating. i have always beleive that there is something more than met the eyes but info we get on cnn we all know is always one sided.it was a plan to give bad name to the arabs and their religion and force their will on us.NL religion fanatics will not come to learn instead they will be the first to shout if the arabs retaliate for cruelity melted on them.im realy blessed to read thru this thread

when people say they are ready to take responsibilities for their action like IBB said. how exactly is he going to that? is it by asking us to give him another chance to have another responsibility? or by going to jail or sentence to death by beating? pls NL i need answers cos i dont understand this mofo of a guy.

i dont know what the few elites are doing down there. the people of the North, Igbomina can come together and blow away this stupid woman. what has she achieved in her 12th year in govt. she spent 4 good years in House of Representative ( and was among those that didnt say any word during the entire 4 years) now she is about spending 8years in senate with nothing to show for except during the third term agenda of Obasanjo which she out-rightly moved against ( the only thing she would av achieved as a senate was not passed i.e. the marine navy bill due to her stupidity cos the bill has already been passed by the house of representative). she just doesnt av the credential to govern the state.yes she has the right but not the brain.