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A Seed for Contemplation

The Holy Spirit works in subtle ways,
but you have to remember to ask. Most
people can’t hear. You learn how to
listen and how to see the messages
from the Holy Spirit that come to you—
and everyone—every day.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Prophecy can come through in the
dream state, or it can come through
what I call the Golden-tongued Wisdom
—where something in your daily life
suddenly pops forth. It’s as if golden
light surrounds it and gives you
whatever you need just at that
moment.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

We must first give to life if we expect
life to give anything in return. This is
the divine law.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@cmanforall

thanks a lot. I appreciate your contribution.
The contemplation seeds of Eckankar are powerful spiritual exercises which if contemplated on and assimilated into one's being has the power to turn Soul into an incandescent, fiery and purified lover of all life and a clear channel for God.

heaven is real. there are many heavens just as Jesus referred to when He said that in my fathers house there are many mansions and that he is going to prepare a place for his followers. each group gravitates to the level of heaven that is in harmony with their state of consciousness. heaven is not a boring place. just like on earth you have specialization in Heaven. people are able to do what they love but without the accompanying excessive resistance and negativity you find on earth.
and moreover you can visit heaven consciously while you are still alive physically and come back with the memories of what you experienced intact.
this is possible through the Spiritual Exercises of Eck. especially the Singing of the HU, a love song to God.
those who have tried it have their own experiences as their prove of the existence of heaven.
the choice is yours.

A Seed for Contemplation

There is usually somewhat of a
struggle when we move into a higher
state of awareness, and that is natural.
The problems in life can be dreaded
with fear, or they can be seen as
opportunities for growth—and a
challenge.
You must make up your own mind as
to what you want to do. Consider all
parts of your life, the financial and
emotional included, and do what
seems to be common sense. Then plan
and work carefully.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Divine Spirit often begins working for
our welfare after we have made some
small effort first.
The love and protection of Spirit
surround you at all times but must be
accepted with a loving heart.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

SIN is simply Self Inflicted Nuisance
S - Self
I - Inflicted
N - Nuisance

A Seed for Contemplation

So few know what a love for living
means. They’ve put a web around
themselves and called it spiritual. Life is
a celebration. Some will read that as
wanton living, but true celebration is
loving God and Its own.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Because of the restrictions of business
and running to make appointments,
some people don’t often feel there is
time to be human, to let others know
they’re appreciated. Other people have
an attitude that says, "I like your
company. We have to do business and
we might as well enjoy doing
business."
People who have this attitude are
openhearted. They love their work.
And through this love for their work,
they are reflecting the love of God.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

People of the golden heart are full of
love and have the ability to give of
themselves. They are the shining lights.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When we are filled with love, the protection of Divine Spirit comes to help us in our daily lives.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

when someone is through with all the arguments about what is truth and what is not truth then the person can give the spiritual exercises of ECK, a try starting with the Singing of the HU, a love song to God.
in ECKANKAR, we are spiritual scientists. we prove to ourselves any thing presented as truth through our own personal experiences. these experiences become your authority and you do not need anyone to convince you otherwise through arguments or counter arguments.

but if you are still having fun with arguments, then continue having your fun until you are done.

A Seed for Contemplation

We are personally responsible for our own state of consciousness. As Soul unfolds toward total freedom, It understands total responsibility must be accepted for every thought and action.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

You are living the spiritual life when
you conduct yourself and your
business in the name of Divine Spirit.
You touch many Souls during the
course of the business day. Although
you may never say one word openly
to your customers, Divine Spirit
touches all whom you meet, in some
manner or another.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Before we love God, we must love all things with the high kind of love, which is called charity. We become the best we can be through the discipline of divine love.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Thoughts are things, and it is
important to keep our thoughts of a
spiritual nature, to put attention on
living a life that is a clear step toward
growth.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ Pastor Kun

God is unknowable, unfathomable and formless. Asking where God himself comes from means you have given It form and put It in a particular space.

Things about God are too big for the little mind of man to comprehend. They have to be experienced by your real self, Soul to even have a small inkling on the origins and location of God.

You do appear to be contradicting yourself here. By your previous post that man was created in the image and likeness of God, you have already implied God has a form. Would you care to explain further.

there is no contradiction. what i said was created in the image and likeness of God is the real you, SOUL. Soul like God too is formless. in other for soul to be able to experience life in the lower universes of God, bodies including the physical body were created for it to wear like a cloth. these bodies enabled it to be able to live and move around in the lower worlds which forms the schools of life. Soul wearing the inner bodies and the physical body is what is referred to as Man. not the other way round. so when soul is done with schooling it simply drops all those bodies and goes back to its formless state or can decide to remain in the lower universes to help and teach other souls who are still undergoing schooling. that is the way it is.
thanks

my dear you are already dying every day and yet you are not aware of it.

any time you sleep, your real self, Soul, leaves the physical body and take a temporary trip to the inner planes to cool off. in the morning soul comes back into the body and you wake up. sleep is actually a temporary death.
when the actual death comes it will be the same way, just like you are falling asleep but the difference will be the other side now becomes solid and no longer dream like and of course you are not going to wake up in the physical plane again.

A Seed for Contemplation

You find you get a great deal of love
and interest from just looking after the
well-being of those Souls who are
looking to you for some of their
spiritual food.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

God is neither male nor female and likewise soul made in the image and likeness of God is neither male nor female.

It is in the creation of the lower worlds that male and female forms were created and every other thing in the lower world have an opposite in order to maintain balance.

Souls come into the lower worlds and put on these forms in order to experience life in the lower worlds. Sometimes it puts on a female form and sometimes a male form. The purpose is to experience life in all its entirety.

Once soul matures and re-enters the pure spiritual planes it becomes neuter in gender again like God, neither male nor female

@ Olisa74

Thanks Ben for the response.
I also read your response to Cmanforall.
I found the the part of all Souls
returning back to God very interesting.
Please I have another question if you
don't mind.
Since we all eventually return to God,
where did God himself come from?

God is unknowable, unfathomable and formless. Asking where God himself comes from means you have given It form and put It in a particular space.

Things about God are too big for the little mind of man to comprehend. They have to be experienced by your real self, Soul to even have a small inkling on the origins and location of God.

What most religious people do not know is that the God force which is also the creative force is a neutral force and totally impartial and is always looking for an open channel through which it can flow to manifest things that is for the benefit of mankind like tvs, telephones, aircraft etc.
It does not matter to it whether the channel is an atheist, christian, muslim, pagan, buddhist etc. What matters to it is that you love life and you are open and ready to work for the benefit of life.


Unfortunately most religious people are busy fighting amongst themselves, killing people and raising a lot of negativity that they shut down this creative flow that is within them whereas atheist are open to this creative flow because of their love and concern for humanity and it becomes possible for them to become channels for this inventions.
This explains why things are the way it is.
Thanks

@ Cmanforall

Hi Ben,do you believe Jesus was sent to die for our sins or he was murdered.where were the eck masters then,how come there teachings didn't spread like christianity.why didn't the deciples recognize Jesus when he resurrected.

there are a lot of controversies surrounding the man Jesus, about his mission and so many other things. we in ECK do not work with believe as i told you earlier. we are spiritual scientists. all the information you need about Jesus is in the inner planes. and more over he is still very much around, all you need to do is to ask him directly. the experience you will have becomes your authority and you do not have to rely on any body's interpretation of what really happened. including the question on why the disciples didn't recognize him, when he resurrected.just try and see what happens.

The Living Eck Master during the time of Jesus was Zadok. At that time the teachings of Eck were being given to few matured souls who were ready for it quietly because of the low state of consciousness among souls at that time. The teachings of Eck are meant only for matured souls who are ready for it, so spreading it at that time was not necessary as very few souls were read
y for it. unlike now that the level of consciousness in the world has expanded tremendously and a lot of souls are ready to go home back to God.

thanks

@ Olisa74

Hello Ben,
I have read some of your interesting posts about dreams.Scientists have been struggling to grapple with dreams, they however believe it has something to do with our evolutionary process. My question is why do we actually dream in the first place?

you dream because of who and what you are. SOUL. made in the image and likeness of God and brought down to the lower worlds to undergo maturity.
encased in a physical body that will enable it experience life in the physical plane. dreaming is time for Soul, the real you to escape from the confines of the physical plane and soar into the inner planes for temporary explorations and also to remind itself that it is a stranger on earth here and when morning comes souls reawakens in the physical body and for an unconscious soul, all memories of where it went to gone, but for a conscious soul, all the memories and lessons learnt in the inner planes intact.
Through dreams, God reminds soul that it has to remember who and what It really is and why It is here on earth.
that is why we dream in the first place.

A Seed for Contemplation

The tests that are easy for us are
difficult for others. This is the nature of
life. And it means that we, as human
beings, must learn patience and
compassion. The wheel always turns.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

If you can achieve an improvement
over yesterday, even if it’s small, you
have gained significantly. You are
taking charge of your own world. You
are becoming a creator.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

The cycle of creative action begins
with the concept we carry in our
minds of what we wish to do. The next
step is to outline on paper some plan
of how to accomplish this. The final
step is action in carrying out the plan.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Not to get attached is often taken to
mean "not to get involved." It actually
means not to let your idea of how
things should be dictate the
relationship. That kind of love has
strings attached. It means always
trying to have your partner do what
you think is right.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ Deep Sight

I would like you to urgently read the Message - all of it - before coming to a conclusion.

okay. you have given me an assignment i will try and carry it out.

Are you sure this is not another attempt at deification of human spiritual leaders into God or gods? I instinctively recoil from any movement that I see attempting such. Indeed, I can tell you that the claims made about the identity of the writer of the Grail Message are the only reasons I stopped short of actually becoming a cross bearer.

Just how many people are we to accept as being divine manifestations of God? Your Living Eck Master/ Abd Ru Shin/ Jesus/ Guru Maharaji/ Olumba Olumba Obu +1000 others?

mark you i never said that the Living Eck Master is a divine manifestation of God. to start with, the Living Eck Master is a Soul just like you and me who has undergone spiritual training and spiritual maturity to earn the title of the Living Eck Master and has become a pure channel to be able to wear the Mahanta Consciousness through which He is able to serve the Sugmad and his Mission is take all ready souls back to God. when he finishes his tenure as the living Eck Master, another soul steps in and continues from where he stops. so the issue of deification of the Living Eck Master does not arise. and worship of the Living Eck Master in any form is strictly forbidden in Eckankar.

You say he is not God, but he is the embodiment and channel of the mahanta consciousness from the sugmad. If that is not God, that is pretty close as one can get to being called a physical manifestation of God itself.

like i said before He is not God. but he is a pure channel for God. being a God-realized Soul does not make you God but it makes you a pure clear channel for God, fully exhibiting the qualities of God.and that is what he is training us to become too.

Does this serve as a prayer, or connects the soul to the essence of God in creation?

both. it can serve as a prayer and also connects soul to the essence of God.

When doing this, should one have meditation in mind, or can one project one's personal desires into the sound and acheive results therein? What kind of results are expected.

all you need is to have love and gratitude in your heart for God and for all Its Blessings in your life. the results you can expect is to see the light of God, to hear the Sound of God which can come in various ways. you can also have a soul travel experience. results depends on your current state of consciousness. The Holy Spirit knows you more than you know yourself and knows the level of experience you are ready for now and that is what you will experience

Are you saying there are no people who have become mentally unstable as a result? None?

none at all.

@ cmanforall

dreams are the first step in the spiritual journey of soul. There are different types of dreams. You have dreams of past lives, dreams of the future, waking dreams, etc.

At the early stages of a soul's unfoldment the dreams that confer strong spiritual truth are presented in symbols so as not to shock the dreamer.

Further contemplation on that dream usually reveals what the symbol signifies. Bear in mind that the meaning of symbols are unique to each individual and the meaning changes as the soul's consciousness expands.

A Seed for Contemplation

You cannot measure spirituality by the
number of bad habits you have or not.
Nor by a certain number of
experiences. Awareness of the
moment and a joy for living can also
be an indication of where you are
spiritually.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul