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ESP are part of the natural abilities of SOUL so there is nothing unique or special about them. Once you start awakening to your true nature as Soul all those latent abilities that you may call ESP starts coming to surface. But presently man is so mired and bogged down in materiality that he finds it extremely difficult to awaken those senses.

Explain fully what you mean by ESP so that others can understand then we can take it from there.
Thanks

It looks like this thread is only for christians. Am i as an ECKIST permitted to contribute? If permitted i will like to say a few words because the whole teachings of ECKANKAR is centered on the Holy Spirit.
Thanks

A Seed for Contemplation

When you don’t put a definite shape to
what you imagine, Divine Spirit can
have unlimited freedom to fill that
mold. But if you put a limit to it, you
often strike out because you’ve
allowed for only one possible outcome.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ omosexy1

Oh Benodic thanks for your reply. Do I pray
or make a request.

you can pray the way that is comfortable for you then make a request afterwards.

How long will I get my
response?

it depends on your state of acceptance of truth. Divine Spirit knows you more than you know yourself
and will reveal it in a way and in a time that will be okay for you.

Should my prayer/request be
before I sleep at night?

preferably before you sleep at night
. Watch your dreams and be alert during the day. The answer can come any way so you have to be alert.

Should I also pray
for confirmation once I receive a message?

yes of course

I need a quick answer cos I want to make a
decision by Monday? Please reply

May God guide you my dear at this stage in your spiritual quest. Never waver from seeking Its face because Its presence is always with us.

Remain blessed

A Seed for Contemplation

People with a high state of
consciousness are not frozen into
inaction by terror brought about
through disasters. They immediately
make a plan to turn the negative
energy to advantage. At this level of
creative imagination, Soul is in a
condition of survival. The lesson of the
worlds of matter is to develop Soul’s
ability to ride the crests of life. This is
vairag, detached love.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ omosexy1

Thank u benodic for your reply, well I have
attended their public teachings (AMORC) and
the organisation is open to the public.
According to them you can study on your
own at the comfort of your house/office or
whenever you choose. I don't think there is
anything secretive about AMORC. I have also
attended Eckankar meetings which is open
to the public too. Anyways I will like to
incorporate the teachings of both for my
spiritual and personal life because I want to
be powerful and at the same time find my
way back to God. I don't know if that is
possible or advisable.

unfortunately Love and Power are opposite and incompatible. You can not have both as your goal at the same so you have to choose.

And how do I tell the
Divine Spirit to guide me on the path that is
right for me? Really need to settle this and
kick start my spiritual life

very simple really.
Pray the way that you usually pray i.e a way that is very comfortable to you Before you sleep then make a request to God that you sincerelly will like to receive guidance as to the next step to take in your spiritual growth. Then forget about it and go to bed. Watch your dreams and be alert during the day. The answer will come in a way you will understand clearly. Repeat it until you get an answer. Then ask for confirmation to be sure.

Remain blessed

@ omosexy

Thanks benodic. Well, according to
Rosicrucians members, they say their
teachings encompasses all spiritual aspects.

that is what they will tell you. The question then is ? Why is their meetings not open to public? They do some psychic practices which in ECK is strictly forbidden and all ECK activities are open to public. Nothing is hidden in ECKANKAR. You are free to walk in to any ECK Center join in the activity , ask questions , read books and walk out if at any point you do not feel comfortable with the teachings. You have the freedom to find out for yourself. Experience is always the best teacher

What about if I combine both teachings for
my spiritual growth? Is there an harm?

you have to fully explain what you mean by combining both teachings. Are you talking about being a member of both paths at the same time? Or do you want to take what both paths are teaching and put it into practise in your life?

If it is the first uption my answer will be no. It will harm you spiritually. It is like you are in an ocean with one leg in one boat and another leg in another boat and both of them are going in different directions at different speeds.you can imagine what will happen to the person who will be torn in different directions.

If it is the second uption then i will advise you to take your time and study each path carefully. Read their books and practice the techniques and see its effects on your life. Then you will know for yourself if it is good for you. You can then compare and contrast. Do not just rush straight in becoming a member without having an idea of what is in stock for you

In ECKANKAR we always tell people to take their time. In spiritual matters there is no rush and no hurry. You can read the ECK books and do the spiritual exercises expecially the HU song which is a love song to GOD. Sing it in the morning and night for 15 to 20 minutes at a time in a long drawn out way. Then watch your experiences and watch your life. You and you alone will be the judge of which path is okay for your spiritual growth now.

Always remember to ask Divine Spirit for Guidance because there is always help on the way for sincere seekers of the Truth.

Remain blessed

A Seed for Contemplation

When greater amounts of divine love
come in, we must give out greater
service.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ omosexy1

@Benodic i need to ask u a sincere
question. whats the difference between the
teachings of Eckankar and AMORC

the teachings of AMORC, the little i know of them are more of metaphysical teachings on how you can gain control of the mind forces and be able to use it as you see fit in your life. So it concentrates more on acquiring power.

On the other hand the teachings of ECK is all about Soul realizing its divine nature by learning love, then freeing itself from the cluthes of the mind and the lower universes and then going back home to God to become a Co-worker with God.

which is better?

the answer to that question depends on your spiritual goal. What do you want in life. Is it to go back home to God after a long exile or is it to acquire more power and control over things. The choice and answer is up to the individual soul.

Will be very happy to address any other question you have

thanks.

A Seed for Contemplation

The miracles that happened in the early
Christian Church still happen today. To
see and benefit from them, all we need
to do is open our consciousness
through spiritual exercises.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Until one finds the way to love, to truly
love, he will never understand the
Spirit of Life.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Prophecy can come through in the
dream state, or it can come through
what I call the Golden-tongued Wisdom
—where something in your daily life
suddenly pops forth. It’s as if golden
light surrounds it and gives you
whatever you need just at that
moment.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Give your best effort each day, and
leave the rest to Spirit.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When you ask God, "Please show me
truth," and you haven’t used your
talents today, you can’t expect to find
the greater talents, the greater truth,
tomorrow.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ Pastor Kun

Benodic hi, keep up the good work you are
doing on the forum but I just want to make
a comment on your last post. When Jesus
ascended to heaven he promised to send
the holy spirit as a comforter to believers
and nothe bible that was compiled three
hundred years later. It's unfortunate that
brethen today have missed the point by
depending more on the bible whilst not
even being in touch with the holy spirit.
Whilst the bible is very important, a real
physical in filling of the holy spirit is far
more important. True christianity is highly
spiritual unfortunately today, man made
religion as taken precedence over true
christianity.

thanks a lot for your comments. That is the point i have been making all along. There is only one way to all truth and it is the Holy Spirit, the Essence of God. Being in contact with the Holy Spirit is the key to a vibrant spiritual life. Once the Holy Spirit comes into your life and takes over you become a living, walking, loving channel for the distribution of God's love to all life without discrimination. These are not issues to argue about or to try to analyze. It is an experience that you go through and afterwards you are never the same again.

@ olat4cash

I'm a typical suffi muslim,i must say i've
listen to some of programm and most of
things i heard is true,cos we suffi are strong
spiritually.

greetings my brother. Only those who are spiritually inclined will understand spiritual truth. Others will waste their time arguing over what is written in a book. I encourage you and other sufis to continue focusing on the truth and truth alone which will lead you to spiritual freedom.

I am sorry to say this but when i look around christendom today all i see is mostly thousands of anti-christs parading around as christians polluting the air with intolerance, hatred and discrimination.
Christ's message is very simple. Love your neighbour as yourself and do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you are not doing this then you are an anti- christ. Simple and short

A Seed for Contemplation

People of the golden heart are full of
love and have the ability to give of
themselves. They are the shining lights.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Becoming a conscious vehicle for God
requires that you become the very
best you can possibly be, no matter
what you choose to do.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Earth is a classroom that brings about
the spiritual maturity of Soul. When Its
education is completed, It must decide
for Itself what belongs to the realm of
timeless truth and what is merely a
subterfuge—a shadow of truth.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Whenever you’re in doubt about any
action, ask yourself: Is it true? Is it
necessary? Is it kind? You can also ask,
What would love do now?

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ chieveboy,

i am glad to have been of service to you.
You can get Eckankar books from this website www.eckbooks.org. It will be shipped to you in Nigeria. You can also make enquiries at the nearest Eckankar centre to you.
ECK books are also sold during our Regional Seminars in May and December.

@ chieveboy,

i am glad to have been of service to you.
You can get Eckankar books from this website www.eckbooks.org. It will be shipped to you in Nigeria. You can also make enquiries at the nearest Eckankar centre to you.
ECK books are also sold during our Regional Seminars in May and December.

Animals are souls too. Just in another body different from humans. And like humans too they are in the process of spiritual evolution and maturation.

It is a gross violation of spiritual laws of life to pray to change someone beliefs without that person's permission.

It is a form of black magic and witch craft and a psychic invasion of the worst order and the practioner who continues in this practices will pay dearly for it.

The spiritual laws of life grants all souls freedom to choose their belief and state of consciousness. No man has any right to take that freedom away. Those immature souls who keeps up the noxious practices of intefering in people lives will learn the hard way. It is just a matter of time.

A Seed for Contemplation

If you can dream something, you can
do it.
As long as you do not align your
actions with your dreams, you are not
fulfilling your destiny.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Creative people who cherish the gift of
life often slip into the secret chambers
of the creative mind. Their solutions
are well-rounded, more sensible than
those of people who rely solely upon
reason as their mainstay. Gratitude
unseals fountains of creativity,
because a grateful person is relaxed.
This allows him to take stock of his
circumstances with an objective mind.
A creative person often gets three-
dimensional answers to his problems.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

You do what you can to make your life
right. And when you have done 100
percent of everything you can do,
Divine Spirit steps in with the miracle.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When something appears to go wrong,
look for the lesson in it for you instead
of finding fault with anyone else or
even yourself.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Spirit acts in a way that is for the good
of the whole, sometimes bringing a
healing of the emotions or the mind
instead of the body, because that is in
the best interests of that particular
Soul’s unfoldment.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ martian

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just
believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all
the other possible gods, you will
understand why I dismiss yours .”

nice one, very nice indeed martian. I really love you atheists. What would the world be like without people like you that have learnt to think outside the box.

It is so unfortunate with what we have in the 2 major religions on earth today that instead of moving the world forward has contributed so much ignorance, backwardness and unneccessary deaths to the world.

The light of Truth is never hidden from anyone who really wants to know whether you are an atheist,a christian or a moslem. But before it can be revealed to you, you have to empty yourself of all your bias, bigotry and prejudices and come to the altar of truth with a child like mind, inquisitive and ready to learn.

Truth does not require that you throw away your common sense or your humanity.