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What we are aiming for is not to avoid the roller-coaster effect of life, but to gain the middle path. This means the path of moderation, the balanced outlook, the spiritual viewpoint that no matter what happens, the sorrows of life will not bury us forever. When loved ones leave in death, we cry—but not forever. We are able to face life knowing that they will still live on in full consciousness.

We know that the divine cause, the Divine Being, has put us here to learn something. It is up to us to go out into life and find out what it is.

Sri Harold Klemp
Touching the Face of God

There is a saying that there are really no secret teachings, that everything we need to know is available to us on an open shelf somewhere. But it depends upon our state of consciousness to accept it.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

The purpose of divine love is to encourage the independence and ability of another to survive and thrive spiritually. How? It is by way of God’s Light and Sound, the two elements that are the Holy Spirit, the Voice of God, the Creative Force in all the universes, the ECK.

Sri Harold Klemp
Truth Has No Secrets

HU will put a fresh, new spirit into your life. You will begin to be a happier person, because It will show you what things are truly important for you and what are not.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

When you ask for help, Spirit begins to bring changes that are for your good. Of course, this means you must be extra careful in the choices you make. Before Spirit can make any changes, you must develop a better image of yourself: You are Soul. God’s love is for you.

Sri Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

If you sing HU every day for ten minutes, filling your heart with as much love as you can, you will find a greater awareness of the factors affecting your survival, both here on earth and on the inner planes.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

If you are into physical fitness, you run, walk, ride a bicycle, or find some kind of exercise that will keep you fit.

There are also exercises that keep us fit spiritually.

The spiritual exercises open your heart to the Light and Sound of God, which is simply divine love, the love of God. When your heart opens to love, with it come wisdom and understanding.

Sri Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

As you sing HU (sounds like the word hue, but drawn out), you’re simply saying, “Thy will be done.”

We don’t try to tell God what to do. We listen to hear what God’s Voice is saying to us.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

When we work from the Soul consciousness, we can shape our own destiny.

Sri Harold Klemp
The Awakened Heart

@ Templee333

psalm 15:6, Ezekiel 18:13, luke 6:35

From what I can understand from these passages it is talking about a person, not in the context of a business, lending money to people and demanding interest.
Let's look at that spiritually.
In the law of giving, when you help someone without looking at the benefit you will receive, the spiritual benefits that come to the giver are quite enormous because you have helped a Soul in need
But when you attach interest to the money you are lending to someone, you are already doing it for selfish purposes and for the gain you want to get and you are also increasing the burden on the person by doing this you end up acquiring negative karma.

@ Templee333

I mean lending money on the condition that the person repay you with interest

If it is a business transaction and both parties agreed to it there is nothing wrong with it unless the terms of agreement is broken without mutual consent, then a karmic debt would have been incurred.
The key thing there is do all you have agreed to do.

The creative process is actually a misnomer, because creation is finished and all we do is manifest what is already there. So you’re not really creating a solution to the problem; you are manifesting something that is already there.

The potential of the rose is in the bud, but before you can see its beauty, the bud has to unfold.

Sri Harold Klemp
Touching the Face of God

@ justlove91

What is the website for eckankar Nigeria

eckankarnigeria. org

Does eckankar Nigeria has radio programmes?

There are several radio programmes in different parts of the country.

@ Templee333

i've been trying to figure out what's the effect of lending money on interest. this is especially significance because both the old testament and new testament bible strongly condemn it. what,please, is ur opinion on this?

I would like you to be more specific on this question. Do you mean an individual lending money to another person as a means of helping the person or a company like a bank doing business and lending money to people. I would also like you to quote those areas in the bible that condemned lending money.

@ justlove91

What is Eckankar teaching on elemental beings and have you seen any?

Eckankar teachings centres primarily on Soul achieving self-realization and God- realization and usually does not concern itself with psychic matters. I have not seen any elemental beings and have no interest in seeing one either.

@ justlove91

What do you think of Juju? Do you think they've any inherent power or does it work because of using the second method indirectly

The process of preparing the juju involves incantations that help to intensify and strengthen the negative thought forms. So it uses the second method.

This is how we work with Divine Spirit. We try to look at life and find the laughter wherever we can, whenever we can, because laughter is the healer.

Sri Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ justlove91

In the book Power and Use of thought, after the author explains how thoughts are produced and propagated, he then explains how this knowledge can be used to help and bless others. For example if you see someone sad, send a cheerful thought to them, if you see someone ill, send thoughts of health and vitality to them etc.

In short, this is basically using the second method but for good, do you agree with this?

Definitely you can use the second method for good if you have acquired the discipline and love required which unfortunately majority of people have not.
As it is presently with the level of consciousness of people currently it is even better that man doesn't know the power he possesses or else the world will be in more serious trouble with the strong preying on the weak psychically

@ justlove91

OK
How can one tell if one is using the first or second process since thought is involved in both?

For the first process, you create and surrender your creation to Divine Spirit to manifest it as it seems fit for the good of the whole.
Not your will but God"s will to be done in God's own way.

For the second, the person uses his will power and does not accept any other outcome apart from his own will and not God's will. This is how black magicians operate

Do you believe disembodied spirits can also influence circumstances and people to bless or harm us?

This is possible but the door to outer influence is always opened from inside never from without meaning that nothing can harm soul from outside unless soul agrees to it by opening the door through fear, anger or lustful desires.

@ justlove91

If this is the case then

1. How does black magic works (eg. thinking ill of others and having it come to pass). It will only mean that divine spirit is the one that carried out the evil act due to the evil thought impressed upon it.

2. If 10 or more people wants a thing that can only be given to one person (eg. A prize as a winner), it will seem the divine spirit will try to give a prize to each one but still work against each one since only one person can win.

3. How does it explain thought forms which can be seen by some clairvoyants.

But if it was thought vibration itself doing the work, this issue will not arise

I deliberately decided not to talk about the second process. That is why I answered that the one I know and work with is the first process which works with Divine Spirit.

The second process works too but that has to do with black magic and it is an area and subject I don't like dwelling on as people misuse it to harm others.

That is why it is better to leave the process of manifestation to Divine Spirit ad It will always act for the good of the whole while the second process uses personal will for selfish purposes. I will not advise anyone to use the second process because of the repercussions.

@ justlove91

Hello, saw your replies to a guy here seeking to trade his soul for wealth and power. It shows you believe in manifestation. How do you think it works, there are two school of thought on this.

1. There is a power in existence, when you think, the thought make an impression on this power, this power then influence circumstances, situation, people and things to bring about the manifestation of the thought impressed on it.

2. Thought itself is a vibration or thing, when you think, the thought radiates out from you and influence circumstances, situation, people and things to bring about it visible manifestation.

So in the first instance, the role of thought is to make an impression on this power which then in turn do the work.
While in tho second instance, thought itself radiates out and do the work.

What do you think the process is?

The process I know is the first one. Your thought make impression in Divine Spirit which takes over and brings to manifestation your creation.
it is important to surrender the process to Divine Spirit with unwavering faith that what you asked for has been granted.

@ sapiens2

okay. so how do I release imaginations to divine spirit? And what is this divine spirit?

First of all you need to know who and what you are. You are Soul occupying a physical body. You don't have a soul. Soul is what you are. Soul is created in the image and likeness of God. It is actually a miniature God.
It has all the qualities of God, omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent.

Divine Spirit is the aspect of God with which It created the universe. Within the Divine Spirit we live, move and have our being.
Anything we put our attention on takes shape within the Divine Spirit and it's just a matter of time before it manifest.

This is a divine law and works for everyone despite your religion or upbringing, even if you don't believe in God, it still works because it is neutral like electricity.

A basic exercise is going into contemplation expecially before bedtime and in your imagination create what you want in your life. Be specific. Put your feelings into it and know that thoughts are real. After creating it, relax and go to sleep. Watch your dreams for instructions and directions on what to do to manifest your creation. During the day be alert to messages. It can come from anywhere and anyone.
Any idea that comes to you take note of it and work on it.
Keep up with this exercise and watch what happens.
You don't need any babalawo or prayer warriors to make your life better, you don't need any cult either that will end up enslaving you when the temporary power they will give you expires.
Every thing you need is already within you.

You don't need to trade your soul for ordinary and temporary power and wealth.
It is even easier to attain power and wealth in this lower universe than attaining spiritual enlightenment.
You already have what is required which is a strong desire. All you need now is to use your creative power as soul to focus on what you want. Create it in your imagination and release it to divine spirit. And watch what happens.

The law of creation works for everyone. You don't need to make any sacrifice or kill anyone to use this law. It's already your divine right given to Soul by God
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How do you let the Spirit of God into your life? The simplest and best way is to sing HU, the age-old song of love for God.

—Harold Klemp
The Awakening Soul

You find that the other worlds are natural and full of joy; and when you have the knowledge that there is no death, you no longer have the fear of death. When you realize you can come back to the body without this fear holding you back, you find your creative imagination begins to blossom. There are no more blocks in your personal life as you set your goals for material success and spiritual unfoldment.

Sri Harold Klemp
Touching the Face of God

As usual naija health system
No proper medical history, no proper medical examination, no proper investigations ordered by a certified specialist, no proper diagnosis either.
it is straight to numerous unverified treatment and management protocols. Something that a less than 15 minutes consultation with a general surgeon could easily solve.
Follow nairaland treatment at your own risk.

"Soul is immortal. It has no beginning nor ending."
—Harold Klemp

Life is a series of experiences all put together: the big, the little, the important, the unimportant. So we go through this journey of Soul, becoming more godlike in wisdom and in divine love as we move forward spiritually.

Sri Harold Klemp
Truth Has No Secrets

The big problem with this country is that most people are always looking for a short cut. Nobody wants to go through the standard process of doing things. This is also why the health care is in shambles.

Medical care has 3 majors processes you pass through before going for treatment.
The process of course starts with the medical doctor, who takes a history and examines the patient. He then sends for the appropriate investigation and then puts together all the findings from these 3 processes to make a diagnosis.

Without going through these 3 processes you are chasing shadows and will end up getting wrong advise
What we see in Nigeria today is people jumping straight to treatment or jumping straight to investigation without going through the normal process.

In summary, you can not use a radiograph to make a proper diagnosis and formulate a management plan without a thorough medical history and thorough medical examination of the patient.

"A waking dream is something that happens in the outer, everyday life that has spiritual significance."
—Harold Klemp

When we come into this world and take on responsibilities, this is where we find our spiritual unfoldment.

Sri Harold Klemp
Love—The Keystone of Life

@ justlove91

Thank you very much, I really enjoyed our talk, if I have any question I will sure let you know.
Would be expecting your feedback on the books.

I thank you too for giving me the opportunity to share. I am always willing to share any insights that life has opportuned me to have.
I have already finished the first one on out of body movement. Currently on the second one.
Quite interesting too.