firstEVA:


Keep being a proud and stuupid chicken, no matter how fearless you are, you won't eascape my Easter Stew

honestly firsteva,at some point u gonna have to look at urself in the mirror and say 'i'm damn too grown up for this'.

like how old are u, really?
do u ever get to grow up at all or are u going to continue to be one hell of a hateful,bigoted biiatch u've always been over the years.
haba,grow up or leave the scene for the young ones to play.

Durentt:
I Dnt hav a former moniker

but how come our paths never crossed,cos i like to take on guys that hide behind their five fingers to throw jabs at gays.

mablie:
You are gay.You can pray from now until next year,you will still be truly only attracted to males and not females.If I were you, I would accept myself for who I am and quit all these self-loathing.If not for the spread of judeo-christian religion in Africa,gays used to be celebrated in our societies not condemned

at last somebori with his screws on.son,this things u said was not revealed to u by flesh and blood...

durent, i 'll like to know what ur former moniker was before u repented

ValerianSteel:
Normalization of homosexuality would not be complete without equal opportunities to gays.

Thank u ValerianSteel. i'm really getting tired of this 'i am gay but i'm not for gay marriage' double entendre.to me it smacks of a kind of societal induced internalized homophobia! the gays in the West did not get there by this pick and choose method of advocating for gay rights.it's all or nothing!at the end of the day when u don't like gay marriage ,then by all means, don't get gay-married!

but u know who else said the same 'i'm not for the gay marriage stuff' at the height of the struggle;Sir Elton John!today he's happily married to David with children.

so, cookiebrown u can see where we're coming from dear...no vex for my friend blackpanda,trust me, we are ur allies, only that we we were sold out and left to hang by our mothers,sisters aunts, daughters, whilst they were all clutching their holy books and African traditions- whatever the hell that means. we wailed and screamed for a lot of them, especially on here to see reason but to no avail.
today, gays are routinely murdered like chickens, in cold blood just because of that bill and our women's ignorance.sorry dear.

so, cookiebrown u can see where we're coming from dear...no vex for my friend blackpanda,trust me we are ur allies, only that we we were sold out and left to hang by our mothers,sisters aunts, daughters, whilst they were all clutching their holy books and African traditions- whatever the hell that means.

blackpanda:
Gender equality is not part of our African tradition. Women must be subservient to men cos women are under men. We dont want gender equality, just the same way we dont want homosexuality. Let us follow our african values to the latter!

God bless u my son!time was in Jan of 2014, when we were screaming and shouting about the anti-gay bill,the women whipped out their bibles and Islamic Hadiths to condemn us to oblivion.what goes around comes around.freedom and justice really cannot be parceled out...



apologies to intelligent women here on nairaland, who saw the injustices and the looming calamity in mixing state and religion and also to my dear Chimamanda Adichie,your great efforts in moving this nation forward and standing for the truth shall never be in vain and is already recorded for posterity.

when we were shouting and wailing about the anti-gay bill,majority of the women used the bible to demonize and castigate us.now,the chicken is coming home to roost.enjoy ur bibles and quran now.no mercy.

remember that saying:first they came for the socialists,
i did not speak out because i was not a socialist...

then they came for me ,and there was no one left to speak for me!


apologies to all the intelligent women who stood with us both here and the likes of Chimamanda Adichie.those are brave women, not the ones brainwashed with the holy books.one day we are going to wake up in this country ,not just now.







check my signature people! u don't parcel out freedom and justice.....

Durentt:
sup bro; you're gay too?
Oh nice to meet u. One big happy family.

u welcome bro.guess u've met nairaland's resident homophobe ,firsteva.enjoy ur time on here .

firstEVA:
you are the one to die you bloody fagggot, you will die from lynching! keep loving diccks classless degenerate. May Wild animals rape your assshole to correction. Product of a bestial relationship. i am sure your mother slept with a horse to give birth to shiit like you, shameless being, bloddy asss fagggot. durentt the faggggot. Nairaland has been wiped clean of evils like you, but you find a way to rear your ugly head, that head will be chopped off soonest, watch out!!!

oh biiitch, take several seats abeg!
that some of us don't join in ur homophobic rigmarole again on here don't mean we are not here following.
like i keep telling you.we'll have the last laugh and dolts like u and ur ilk we'll hide in shame.

Klinee:
You are a fool!!!!!!

well,is that your take?


no venomous anti-lgbti words from you tonight?

please don't tell me you've gone soft on dem homos and btw,how many have you been able to lynch
since last time we talked ?

hey Mr klinee, i can see you're here.what's your take on the issue at hand?

btw,what is it with you and gay related topics?

lifeofkelvino:

Dis gay guys deserved to be killed... I swear...... If I become président..... Na death penalty for GAYS

talk about your blessings
more than your burdens

focus on what you want
not on what you don't

promote what you love instead
of bashing what you hate

imagine what could go right
instead of worrying about
what could go wrong

by these u live longer and happier!

sarmiie:



There was no reason to insult him. Even I did not know that.

well,now u know and this is just one of the few recorded ones.everything Nobilis said up there concerning African history and homosexuality is true and as per the insult,if anyone would want to refute that,he/she could've checked and crosschecked his/her facts first.


no need running one's mouth on social media without crosschecking the facts, not when there's even abundant resources for information .

jaybanfa:
@nobilis aren't u tryna change the narrative? Can't remember oral traditions nor written historical accounts of Africans ever being homos... So where did u get that? Kindly correct that man! That's a lie from d pits of hell.

haaa,just negodu!just negodu this mumu people!
why are u people inherently daft?in that same Uganda over a century ago, reigned a well known King who was openly homosexual and who fought the colonial masters and the missionaries to standstill.ever heard of King Kabaka Mwanga II of Buganda(1884-1897)

make una try dey read na,no be only bible and qouran be book.

OkparaJesus:
I trust myself. I will kill him indirectly the way I allowed a gay guy who was beaten to bleed to death at the hospital. I pretended as a busy nurse but indirectly allowed him to enter into shock. He died I was just being sorry but within me I was the happiest man on earth that afternoon.

if there's indeed hell fire ,u deserve to burn in the deepest part of it.okparajesus indeed.an excuse of a human being you are!

Yes, Mugabe can say anything to cover his hate and ultimately, his ignorance.he's one hell of a bigot and we seem to have a lot of them holding sway in Africa.old men who refuses to relinquish power and yet cling on to their old archaic views and ways of doing things that has held Africa back for a long time.Mugabe needs to go, either to the great beyond or retire to his village to tend to his teeming great-grand children.

idu1:
I don't care...


Just have in it ur gayish mind, I ll burn u to ashes. if I catch u and your gangs...

first of all, our paths can never cross as u and i no dey the same category.2nd of all, if in the event that we ever get to meet, there's the likelihood that u gonna cower b4 me but if u prove otherwise ,trust me i will burst ur balls and feed u with it and tha'ts a fact!

idu1:
one of them spoted...


If we catch u, u ll lynched.....

can't even read the jargon u put up there!why is it that it's mostly illiterates and low-lifers that are quickly given to jungle justice?

go get some education u dolt and reason like a human.
type u can't type, common sense u no get!

idu1:
Animals....

the only animal i see here is u...ediioota!

EnlightenedSoul:


Hallelujah! And finally, someone speaks with truth and wisdom.

Can I get an "A-men"?!

*I don't know exactly what I'm doing, but I'm doing it*

Shout "Aaa-men!".

Some here foolishly shyt in the face of civil rights laws. A Black individual should be the LAST to do such.

well, ameen!

i said it in a post that something is intrinsically wrong with the psyche of the black man on the aftermath of the same-sex marriage ruling in

America, where a black supreme court justice who is married to a white woman, dissented on the marriage equality ruling.black people really


need to wake up and smell the coffee.

culture is transient and it's not always gonna be as 'we used to have it'. by the way,if it should be that way many of u will not be in America today and perhaps slavery could still be the other of the day.

hey, y'all should take several seats biko! you all will still come here to shout to high heavens how Americans and oyinbos are racists towards y'all cos of your skin color! i ask u silly black men and women,how will u guys feel if a bakery in America refuses to bake your wedding cakes because your black?

can't u guys see the double standard in your view points or are u guys just being blinded by homophobia?

little wonder he's such an ass..hole!

kogi people are on a long thing!

The 'Chosen Ones' used by the Christian slave traders to tame the savage beasts found in Africa. Gave them GOD's blessing to take slaves.

Now hundred of years later Africans cling onto a white Jesus (given to them to shut them up) and bang their tambourines with pride. But now they use the white man's religion to bash gay people.

The saddest aspect is not one single Bible hugging African can see the lunacy in this. SMH

If your faith, your personal walk with God actually matters to you, why wouldn't you want to know these things? Even set out to change them? They certainly do not help make these faith systems seem like something worthy of emulation. I know many christians who claim that their faith matters, if so, then why not continue to learn and grow and help end these barbaric practices?

SCIENCE
These are the 12 worst ideas religion has unleashed on the world

VALERIE TARICO, ALTERNET
24 JAN 2015 AT 00:01 ET

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Some of humanity’s technological innovations are things we would have been better off without: the medieval rack, the atomic bomb and powdered lead potions come to mind. Religions tend to invent ideas or concepts rather than technologies, but like every other creative human enterprise, they produce some really bad ones along with the good.

I’ve previously highlighted some of humanity’s best moral and spiritual concepts, our shared moral core. Here, by way of contrast, are some of the worst. These twelve dubious concepts promote conflict, cruelty, suffering and death rather than love and peace. To paraphrase Christopher Hitchens, they belong in the dustbin of history just as soon as we can get them there.


Chosen People –The term “Chosen People” typically refers to the Hebrew Bible and the ugly idea that God has given certain tribes a Promised Land (even though it is already occupied by other people). But in reality many sects endorse some version of this concept. The New Testament identifies Christians as the chosen ones. Calvinists talk about “God’s elect,” believing that they themselves are the special few who were chosen before the beginning of time. Jehovah’s witnesses believe that 144,000 souls will get a special place in the afterlife. In many cultures certain privileged and powerful bloodlines were thought to be descended directly from gods (in contrast to everyone else).

Religious sects are inherently tribal and divisive because they compete by making mutually exclusive truth claims and by promising blessings or afterlife rewards that no competing sect can offer. “Gang symbols” like special haircuts, attire, hand signals and jargon differentiate insiders from outsiders and subtly (or not so subtly) convey to both that insiders are inherently superior.

Heretics – Heretics, kafir, or infidels (to use the medieval Catholic term) are not just outsiders, they are morally suspect and often seen as less than fully human. In the Torah, slaves taken from among outsiders don’t merit the same protections as Hebrew slaves. Those who don’t believe in a god are corrupt, doers of abominable deeds. “There is none [among them] who does good,” says the Psalmist.

Islam teaches the concept of “dhimmitude” and provides special rules for the subjugation of religious minorities, with monotheists getting better treatment than polytheists. Christianity blurs together the concepts of unbeliever and evildoer. Ultimately, heretics are a threat that needs to be neutralized by conversion, conquest, isolation, domination, or—in worst cases—mass murder.

Holy War – If war can be holy, anything goes. The medieval Roman Catholic Church conducted a twenty year campaign of extermination against heretical Cathar Christians in the south of France, promising their land and possessions to real Christians who signed on as crusaders. Sunni and Shia Muslims have slaughtered each other for centuries. The Hebrew scriptures recount battle after battle in which their war God, Yahweh, helps them to not only defeat but also exterminate the shepherding cultures that occupy their “Promised Land.” As in later holy wars, like the modern rise of ISIS, divine sanction let them kill the elderly and children, burn orchards, and take virgin females as sexual slaves—all while retaining a sense of moral superiority.

Blasphemy – Blasphemy is the notion that some ideas are inviolable, off limits to criticism, satire, debate, or even question. By definition, criticism of these ideas is an outrage, and it is precisely this emotion–outrage–that the crime of blasphemy evokes in believers. The Bible prescribes death for blasphemers; the Quran does not, but death-to-blasphemers became part of Shariah during medieval times.

The idea that blasphemy must be prevented or avenged has caused millions of murders over the centuries and countless other horrors. As I write, blogger Raif Badawi awaits round after round of flogging in Saudi Arabia—1000 lashes in batches of 50—while his wife and children plead from Canada for the international community to do something.

Glorified suffering – Picture secret societies of monks flogging their own backs. The image that comes to mind is probably from Dan Brown’s novel, The Da Vinci Code, but the idea isn’t one he made up. A core premise of Christianity is that righteous torture—if it’s just intense and prolonged enough–can somehow fix the damage done by evil, sinful behavior. Millions of crucifixes litter the world as testaments to this belief. Shia Muslims beat themselves with lashes and chains during Aashura, a form of sanctified suffering called Matam that commemorates the death of the martyr Hussein. Self-denial in the form of asceticism and fasting is a part of both Eastern and Western religions, not only because deprivation induces altered states but also because people believe suffering somehow brings us closer to divinity.


Our ancestors lived in a world in which pain came unbidden, and people had very little power to control it. An aspirin or heating pad would have been a miracle to the writers of the Bible, Quran, or Gita. Faced with uncontrollable suffering, the best advice religion could offer was to lean in or make meaning of it. The problem, of course is that glorifying suffering—turning it into a spiritual good—has made people more willing to inflict it on not only themselves and their enemies but also those who are helpless, including the ill or dying (as in the case of Mother Teresa and the American Bishops) and children (as in the child beating Patriarchy movement).

Genital mutilation – Primitive people have used scarification and other body modifications to define tribal membership for as long as history records. But genital mutilation allowed our ancestors several additional perks—if you want to call them that. Infant circumcision in Judaism serves as a sign of tribal membership, but circumcision also serves to test the commitment of adult converts. In one Bible story, a chieftain agrees to convert and submit his clan to the procedure as a show of commitment to a peace treaty. (While the men lie incapacitated, the whole town is then slain by the Israelites.)

In Islam, painful male circumcision serves as a rite of passage into manhood, initiation into a powerful club. By contrast, in some Muslim cultures cutting away or burning the female clitoris and labia ritually establishes the submission of women by reducing sexual arousal and agency. An estimated 2 million girls annually are subjected to the procedure, with consequences including hemorrhage, infection, painful urination and death.

Blood sacrifice – In the list of religion’s worst ideas, this is the only one that appears to be in its final stages. Only Hindus continue toritually hack and slaughter sacrificial animals on a mass scale.

When our ancient ancestors slit the throats on humans and animals or cut out their hearts or sent the smoke of sacrifices heavenward, many believed that they were literally feeding supernatural beings. In time, in most religions, the rationale changed—the gods didn’t need feeding so much as they needed signs of devotion and penance. The residual child sacrifice in the Hebrew Bible (yes it is there) typically has this function. Christianity’s persistent focus on blood atonement—the notion of Jesus as the be-all-end-all lamb without blemish, the final “propitiation” for human sin—is hopefully the last iteration of humanity’s long fascination with blood sacrifice.

Hell – Whether we are talking about Christianity, Islam or Buddhism, an afterlife filled with demons, monsters, and eternal torture was the worst suffering the Iron Age minds could conceive and medieval minds could elaborate. Invented, perhaps, as a means to satisfy the human desire for justice, the concept of Hell quickly devolved into a tool for coercing behavior and belief.

Most Buddhists see hell as a metaphor, a journey into the evil inside the self, but the descriptions of torturing monsters  and levels of hell can be quite explicit. Likewise, many Muslims and Christians hasten to assure that it is a real place, full of fire and the anguish of non-believers. Some Christians have gone so far as to insist that the screams of the damned can be heard from the center of the Earth or that observing their anguish from afar will be one of the pleasures of paradise.

Karma – Like hell, the concept of karma offers a selfish incentive for good behavior—it’ll come back at you later—but it has enormous costs. Chief among these is a tremendous weight of cultural passivity in the face of harm and suffering. Secondarily, the idea of karmasanctifies the broad human practice of blaming the victim. If what goes around comes around, then the disabled child or cancer patient or untouchable poor (or the hungry rabbit or mangy dog) must have done something in either this life or a past one to bring their position on themselves.

Eternal Life – To our weary and unwashed ancestors, the idea of gem encrusted walls, streets of gold, the fountain of youth, or an eternity of angelic chorus (or sex with virgins) may have seemed like sheer bliss. But it doesn’t take much analysis to realize how quickly eternal paradise would become hellish—an endless repetition of never changing groundhog days (because how could they change if they were perfect).

The real reason that the notion of eternal life is such a bad invention, though, is the degree to which it diminishes and degrades existence on this earthly plane. With eyes lifted heavenward, we can’t see the intricate beauty beneath our feet. Devout believers put their spiritual energy into preparing for a world to come rather than cherishing and stewarding the one wild and precious world we have been given.

Male Ownership of Female Fertility – The notion of women as brood mares or children as assets likely didn’t originate with religion, but the idea that women were created for this purpose, that if a woman should die of childbearing “she was made to do it,” most certainly did. Traditional religions variously assert that men have a god-ordained right to give women in marriage, take them in war, exclude them from heaven, and kill them if the origins of their offspring can’t be assured. Hence Catholicism’s maniacal obsession with the virginity of Mary and female martyrs.

As we approach the limits of our planetary life support system and stare dystopia in the face, defining women as breeders and children as assets becomes ever more costly. We now know that resource scarcity is a conflict trigger and that demand for water and arable land is growing even as both resources decline. And yet, a pope who claims to care about the desperate poor lectures them against contraceptionwhile Muslim leaders ban vasectomies in a drive to outbreed their enemies.

Bibliolatry (aka Book Worship) – Preliterate people handed down their best guesses about gods and goodness by way of oral tradition, and they made objects of stone and wood, idols, to channel their devotion. Their notions of what was good and what was Real and how to live in moral community with each other were free to evolve as culture and technology changed. But the advent of the written word changed that. As our Iron Age ancestors recorded and compiled their ideas into sacred texts, these texts allowed their understanding of gods and goodness to become static. The sacred texts of Judaism, Christianity and Islam forbid idol worship, but over time the texts themselves became idols, and many modern believers practice—essentially—book worship, also known as bibliolatry.

“Because the faith of Islam is perfect, it does not allow for any innovations to the religion,” says one young Muslim explaining his faith online. His statement betrays a naïve lack of information about the origins of his own dogmas. But more broadly, it sums up the challenge all religions face moving forward. Imagine if a physicist said, “Because our understanding of physics is perfect, it does not allow for any innovations to the field.”

Adherents who think their faith is perfect, are not just naïve or ill informed. They are developmentally arrested, and in the case of the world’s major religions, they are anchored to the Iron Age, a time of violence, slavery, desperation and early death.

Ironically, the mindset that our sacred texts are perfect betrays the very quest that drove our ancestors to write those texts. Each of the men who wrote part of the Bible, Quran, or Gita took his received tradition, revised it, and offered his own best articulation of what is good and real. We can honor the quest of our spiritual ancestors, or we can honor their answers, but we cannot do both.

Religious apologists often try to deny, minimize, or explain away the sins of scripture and the evils of religious history. “It wasn’t really slavery.” “That’s just the Old Testament.” “He didn’t mean it that way.” “You have to understand how bad their enemies were.” “Those people who did harm in the name of God weren’t real [Christians/Jews/Muslims].” Such platitudes may offer comfort, but denying problems doesn’t solve them. Quite the opposite, in fact. Change comes with introspection and insight, a willingness to acknowledge our faults and flaws while still embracing our strengths and potential for growth.

In a world that is teeming with humanity, armed with pipe bombs and machine guns and nuclear weapons and drones, we don’t need defenders of religion’s status quo—we need real reformation, as radical as that of the 16th Century and much, much broader. It is only by acknowledging religion’s worst ideas that we have any hope of embracing the best.




http://www.rawstory.com/2015/01/these-are-the-12-worst-ideas-religion-has-unleashed-on-the-world/

shadowgwalker:
sorry bro, don't mistake me for ur papa. U knnow u were adopted, I'm straighter than u can imagine.

weeeak!i expected more from u, wimp!

kingthreat:


Statement seems to come from someone whose family ritual is interspecie sex.

ain't that rich coming from a simpleton who thinks bestiality is ok. talk about 'animals wan talk to human beings'.

Dereformer:


Like what?

like for instance,the internet u are using was invented by a gay man! so yeah,they can be brainy like that.