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Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 1:52pm On Nov 15, 2014
buchisom1:
bastard, fugitive lik u...keep livin lik rat ....if u knw u proud of ua gay shit show uaslf in the street of lagos and see what will happen to u...dead body wey dey smell


U'll soon be consumed by hate .m.o.f.o
And u better get out of this thread b4 I call the mods to ban ur ignorant a.s.s.
Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 1:13pm On Nov 15, 2014
buchisom1:
ask yaslf dis question whn God was creating the world why did him nt make adam and adam to dominate the world...so do u wnt to tell me gays re more upright than the creator...mehn i hate gays wit passion


Hate is d prerogative of gutter, low-lifes like u ,so keep hating.don't go and educate urself ,hide behind ur phone and continue to hate mu.mu

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Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 1:05pm On Nov 15, 2014
buchisom1:
ask uaslf dis question if ua parent were gay will u b in dis world...stupid bastard..may God strike all of u dead...

May Amadioha strike u and ur generation dead ,ediaat.
Cave man,u belong to the zoo.
Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 11:06am On Nov 15, 2014
buchisom1:
dicksucker or wateva ua name is...if u re a nigeria den i will say to u...dat u re a course to ya family..i bet dey will b regretin hvin u as a child coz no tru child born of a nigeria blood will b in such a demonic act lik u...lik i said if u claim ua right in ua nonsens come open and show us ua face


U need to go back to school and learn basic grammar first.it's obvious u r an illiterate coming here to spew ur jargon and of course ur misplaced hate.

U cannot do anything to anybody u nitwit,u don't have enuf brain cells to even spell and u think u can harm any1?think again!
Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 10:20am On Nov 15, 2014
Rilamaka:



Are you not supposed to be an atheist? You are sick bruv, get help!

Funny, I'm a Christian.
I'm perfectly fine Amaka, if there's any1 that needs help it's u that still thinks u live in d stone age.

Amaka,u r literate but not educated,u are intelligent but u r not enlightened!
Open ur mind ,u r woman, a 21st century woman!!!

Btw,did u read the whole write-up?
U should.
Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 10:20am On Nov 15, 2014
Rilamaka:



Are you not supposed to be an atheist? You are sick bruv, get help!

Funny, I'm a Christian.
I'm perfectly fine Amaka, if there's any1 that needs help it's u that still thinks u live in d stone age.

Amaka,u r literate but not educated,u are intelligent but u r not enlightened!
Open ur mind ,u r woman, a 21st century woman!!!
Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 10:06am On Nov 15, 2014
Johnpaul88:
An average Nigerian can slit his mother's throat if the price is right and cry later. Btw I don't see ma self as a Nigerian. What a godawful country!


That is so true dear,buh what to do.we just find a way of working around the whole mess.
Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 12:30am On Nov 15, 2014
Julieee:
I guess they don't have acceptance issues like guys


That's d hypocrisy in the whole gay saga that we're facing.

Just because the society is male dominated that is why it's like that.it's a man's world here.
Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 11:48pm On Nov 14, 2014
Julieee:
are they those guys that behave like girls?

Some behave like girls but most are masculine in every sense of d word.
But a good percentage of effeminate guys are gays.

what about d lesbians,aren't u interested in knowing about those too?
Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 11:12pm On Nov 14, 2014
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klinee,
Rilamaka,Dicksucker(follow back)
Cutehector4u,padeolu,
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Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 11:11pm On Nov 14, 2014
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Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 11:09pm On Nov 14, 2014
Iceg:



yexx .....y not? he his God not man..anyting is possible with God.......are u an atheist?.

I am a Christian who applies logical thinking to my belief.
Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 11:05pm On Nov 14, 2014
Johnpaul88:
Was he supporting gay rights or looking for votes? I'll go for the latter. Nigerians!

Any which way ,that is not my forte.
Johnpaul,how do u mean by 'Nigerians'! ?
Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 10:57pm On Nov 14, 2014
Iceg:





Did u jst say homosexuality is not a sin...its very clear u dont read the bible,,simply pick up a bible and read leviticus 20:13 and deuteronomy 22:5....

Homosexuality is not a sin just like heterosexuality is not a sin.
The bible was written by humans like u and I .and it's not every law in d bible that humans of today keep.
Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 10:50pm On Nov 14, 2014
Iceg:





kkk...lets assume there is no God,,,hw did this world come to be hw did u come into existence? And after u die where are u going to since u said there is no God


Kkk...so u really believe that d world was created in 7days?
Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 8:53pm On Nov 14, 2014
Johnpaul88:
Why would you vote for him? Is he the most handsome? I vote for the most handsome.


If the most handsome is a homophobic douche bag nko?
Abeg,anybody that supports gay rights and respects someone from different sexual orientation shud be encouraged with votes.it has to be kept in d family
.
when it comes to these kinda competitions,na we dey win am na!
Buh,I'm not particularly interested in those.
Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 8:45pm On Nov 14, 2014
elampiro:


I have not read it fully yet. But come to think of it. There are preaching against prostitution, adultery, fornication, masturbation and other sexual related sins. In the bible, all these are sins. The church is built on the gospel. I see no reason why anyone would take offence when there are preaching against these sins. Where does he/she thinks she is, a strip club?


Homosexuality is not a sin as it's not just a decision u make over-night.people are born gay and they should be free to live normal lives without condemnation.
All those 'sins' u mentioned up there are choices one makes in life as one can decide tomorrow to leave those things .
People in committed same-sex relationships shud not be condemned,they should be encouraged !
But I'll prefer u read the whole article though.

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Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 8:44pm On Nov 14, 2014
elampiro:


I have not read it fully yet. But come to think of it. There are preaching against prostitution, adultery, fornication, masturbation and other sexual related sins. In the bible, all these are sins. The church is built on the gospel. I see no reason why anyone would take offence when there are preaching against these sins. Where does he/she thinks she is, a strip club?


Homosexuality is not a sin as it's not just a decision u make over-night.people are born gay and they should be free to live normal lives without condemnation.
All those 'sins' u mentioned up there are choices one makes in life as one can decide tomorrow to leave those things .
People in committed same-sex relationships shud not be condemned,they should be encouraged !

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Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 7:55pm On Nov 14, 2014
Julieee:
I have never met a gay sha, but I know with time, people will accept gays.

Sister no,mbanu,trust me again on this one ,uve met many just that u wudnt know unless they tell u.or if u dig deeper into their lifestyle u'll know,but this I don't subscribe.
Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 6:18pm On Nov 14, 2014
firstEVA:
You and gay matter, hian.

E Pele ma!

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Religion / Re: “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 4:30pm On Nov 14, 2014
masonkz:
Someday we wouldn't have to announce to the world that we're gay, as people would have become more accepting and tolerant, and wouldn't need to look at you funny when they come to know about your orientation.

Till then...


True that. buh religion is really the bane of homophobic attacks such as we witness everyday both in real life and on social media.
That's why this article is put out there for any1 suffering the kinds of pain that this man had to go through .
Churches are suppose to preach love and acceptance not hate and condemnation.

Cc: virginfinder,dinachi,2sa2,mrsanity,kemgox

ubenedictus,elampiro,Kay17,
Chukwudi44,italo,gidjah,syncan,vest new improved FirstEVA ,okparajesus et al...just a quick question ,should we have allowed that young man above to die because he's gay and self-loathing on himself?
Religion / “I Am Gay. And God Loves Me.” by beryl04(m): 3:52pm On Nov 14, 2014
'I’d Rather go to Hell for Telling the Truth'

“I am gay. And God loves me.”


Rev. Dr. Daniel Meeter asked me to repeat those words as we walked and talked in Prospect Park in Brooklyn. Rev. Meeter was my field education supervisor during my final year at Princeton Theological Seminary. He is a progressive White pastor of a congregation that is part of the Reformed Church of America. As he encouraged me to repeat those words, I thought, “this man can’t be saved.”

As a product of Black churches—formerly a member of the Church of God in Christ (COGIC), baptized in “Jesus’s name” at an Apostolic church, attendee of a tongues-speaking, foot-stomping holiness church in my childhood—I was convinced that God despised and would deliver me from the “spirit of homosexuality” that seemingly had its grip on me. 

Despite the fact that I left the Church after being suspended from ministerial preparation at the last church of which I was a member, I was still scarred so deeply that Rev. Meeters’ words seemed to be paradoxical. I could not believe, even then—even after having nearly finished seminary, God loved (gay) me.

That is why I was not surprised when a video of a self-proclaimed ex-gay COGIC member lauding his newfound attraction to women, in front of thousands, at the denomination’s 107thHoly Convocation was widely circulated in social media. While I was never bold enough to publicly denounce my queerness, I did so in private, often.

Yet, I have always been physically and, at some points in my life, emotionally, attracted to males. Sex with other males didn’t feel wrong—until it was over and I was debilitated by guilt to the point that I would earnestly pray for forgiveness. Loving other men didn’t feel wrong—until I would sit in church under the sound of some preacher’s sermon warning me that liars, cheaters, backsliders, and homosexuals didn’t have a chance at making it into heaven. And if, at the time, the homophobic sermonizing deadened my spirit, my unwavering belief in the self-hating theology I was taught nearly killed me, literally. I really really loved God, but I felt as if I was never able to suppress my attraction and love for other men such that God, or the Church, would be pleased enough to love me back.

There was something confounding about the ways certain pastors and church goers would demonstrate care—make sure I would eat while broke in college, push me in moments when I felt socially dejected, repeat how much they loved and supported me, shout and shed tears after I would sing—all while offering affirming “amens” almost every time a word was preached reminding us “God hates the sin (of homosexuality), but loves the sinner.” It confused me when I would preach to others about God’s love while experiencing God’s hate in the form of anti-homosexual sermons and prayer lines where saints would rebuke gay and lesbian demons.

One well-known evangelist who was the visiting preacher at the COGIC church I attended, for example, stated she’d rather her son be a “crackhead” than a homosexual. Actually, she never said the word “homosexual.” She lifted up a limp wrist, instead. The church went up in high praise after. I was devastated. Surely, the preaching woman who was assigned the title of “evangelist” in a denomination that doesn’t believe women should be ordained had to know something about oppression?

Once I stood anxiously, as I always did, in a prayer line waiting my turn. I really believed that if I demonstrated enough faith and if I took control over my fleshly desires God would deliver me from my gayness. So, I waited in line, full of faith, and received the prayer offered on my behalf. I received the preacher’s harsh rebuke of the spirit of homosexuality that he and I thought was ravaging my life. I received the hands placed firmly on my head, which were used to push me down on the ground until I was alone, under a pew, and crying with spit dripping out of my mouth. It didn’t work and I wasn’t sure if the failure had something to do with the prophet’s lack of power or my lack of faith, but I still loved and was attracted to the man I was seeing at the time.

There were also the many moments when, after all of the prayers and tongues and shouting and faith offerings and fasting, I contemplated suicide. I figured that nothing could be more painfully tormenting than the “hell” I was experiencing on earth. What more could perpetual burning do to my soul than the everyday scorn I had been experiencing had already achieved? I hated myself. And that every-second type of self-denigration was punishment enough.

Years would pass before I was able to love myself more than my church members, former pastors, and even God supposedly loved me. It’s complicated because the churches I attended were spaces where my spirit was healed and killed. In fact, some of the worshipping spaces I attended were home to some of the most caring people who just happened to proclaim uncaring theologies. But I had to leave toxic worshipping spaces, and friendships, which had me believing lies. I had to separate myself from church leaders and parishioners who apparently “loved” me so much they felt the need to torment me with bad theology as opposed to allowing me space to live a full and loving life, with integrity, surrounded by affirmative people. The price of gaining entrance into their “heaven” would have been hefty, costing both my life and soul, had I stayed and believed their words.

It would take years before I would be able to pray to God my truth. I recall proclaiming, “If ‘hell’ will be my lot for telling and living my truth, then I guess that is where I will need to go. If you expect integrity, it doesn’t seem logical that a lie will grant me entry into heaven.”

My mom, who sat before me, when I fearfully disclosed my sexuality some time later affirmed me by sharing, “If folk don’t love you, they don’t deserve to be in your life.” I took her words to heart. And I took them as a reference for God, too.

It would take time and healing before I began to understand hell as fictitious, and if it exists, to be that which we create right here on earth. And even more time and healing to consider the ways we create gods to maintain power and to control people’s lives, bodies, money, passions, beliefs, and yearnings.

And, yet, here I am today: a self-loving gay Black man who once loved the church even while hating himself, a proud-to-be-in-his-skin Black gay man who left the church to save himself who can finally repeat with conviction the words Rev. Meeter challenged me to repeat seven years ago: I am gay. And God loves me.




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Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 11:58am On Nov 14, 2014
Julieee:
If gays are really born that way then it will be wrong to criticize them. Its a strange way of life though.

Trust me julieee, no one will choose a life of constant harassment,ridicule and sometimes rejection, from family and friends.

It's really not a choice and I'l never choose that in a million years!
Politics / Re: LIVE UPDATES: President Jonathan Declares Today by beryl04(m): 2:58pm On Nov 11, 2014
"NO NIGERIAN WILL BE FORCED INTO EXILE" - Goodluck Ebele Jonathan

#GEJDECLARES

Please someone should remind GEJ that many of my friends are in exile because of his ANTI-GAY law!!!

All this hypocrisy and double-speak should stop already,haba!!!

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Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 2:31pm On Nov 11, 2014
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Honestly Amy,if u don tear eye u'll never be so homophobic.gays are a classy lady's bestfriend.
We are the one that lend d ladies a shoulder to cry on when theyre having man-problems.
And again almost all the things u gals put on are designed by us!
we understand ladies better than d heterosexual male #fact!

That is why in d west almost every classy lady has a retinue of gay as friends.
Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 1:37pm On Nov 11, 2014
firstEVA:
MR MAN, apart from gay theads, do you EVER comment on any other issues? apart from being gay, aren't you a human being? dont you get tired of this routine of attacking anti gays up and down, left right and centre? answer these questions before i know what to tell you, jeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


There arE others who comment on politics and sports and technology and they're gays.
I live for human rights and I'll continue to fight until nigeria sees the need to stop the victimisation of hapless minorities and even women!
This is what I stand for and believe in passionately and that is equality of all humans, regardless of creed ,race ,gender and sexual orientation..we are all equal b4 God and should be all equal b4 d law.
U, firsteva should try it,I.e sttanding up and believing in Something,that's how societies progress!

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Phones / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook Is "Proud To Be Gay" by beryl04(m): 11:27am On Nov 11, 2014
Rilamaka:


GN. Darling, Naive is the last I am. X


Good morning Amy,how's ur day?
U said u r not naïve but obviously u never open-eye!
Have a good day milady.

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