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Humanoid01:
Yeah, and that's because the teams he goes to are no different from the teams he previously played for. Messi would achieve pretty much the same thing if he goes to Real Madrid, Manchester united and Juventus. By the way, your analogy sucks. How can a vaccine cure only a particular race?

U can't determine that cos Torres left Liverpool for a better team in Chelsea ... Well the vaccine example is just a mere analogy

Humanoid01:
Yeah, but Messi is among the top 5 players to have scored more goals against English top teams, and he has never played in the premier league. Ronaldo who spent 6 years in the EPL isn't even among top 8.

That's a failed analysis... Ronaldo played for man u and he only stepped up his goal scoring tally 2 seasons b4 he left... The question u should ask is when did Messi start scoring English teams... Besides the top six are the only ones he can play cos they are most likely to qualify for the CL.... Shevchenko scored a lot of English teams as well while at Milan and it earned him the European best player but flopped when he joined Chelsea... So as Torres that was a star at Liverpool, but cudnt score when he joined Chelsea... Different teams different tactics...Messi will not carry the whole of barca to England if he joined

Humanoid01:
You are a sentimentalist. Period! People like you always find a way to justify their claims even when they know deep within them they are wrong.

U are the sentimentalist here cos I'm stating facts... U can't tell me that someone that has been tested and trusted by winning major trophies with the 4 different teams he has represented and being their best player on every occasion less than one that has only achieved with one team...

Imagine saying a vaccine that cures only Asians is better than the vaccine that cures all races

Egoveen:
Taaaaa mechie onu gi there...if you do football analysis as a job na hunger go kill you.

But she stated the obvious fact...u can't say a particular car is the best cos it's faster and it's more balanced on road...what of if it faces rocky roads or beach sand or even running thru pot holes, will it still perform?? Changing teams will most likely slow down ur performance... Scoring teams in Spain in the case of Messi is different from scoring in England... Messi has never scored Chelsea at Stamford bridge...

mysteryman2014:
Pele na bad belle because of ethernal rivalry between Argentina and Brazil, so dont expect him to be objective.

Pele na bad Belle cos he supports Ronaldo but Beckham Is not bad Belle shey?? Hypocrisy killing the world

Humanoid01:
Thanks for the correction, but has he ever gotten to the final? hahaha. I never said it was all about dribbling. Just as someone mentioned earlier, Ronaldo has more drive and is able to create something out of nothing unexpectedly. He is a goal poacher, and he does that really well, but that makes him very selfish in a way. Most of those features you mentioned up there seem to be in favour of Ronaldo because they're naturally related to his position.

Messi on the other hand is more of a team player, and what he does on the pitch, he does it AMAZINGLY well. He creates more chances for his team mates than he scores. He makes the game too easy.

Whether u are a team player or a poacher , the most important thing here is winning... If a poacher fetches more winnings than a team player, then the poacher is a better player because the end justifies the means...

Besides playing in the final is not what we wanna hear.. winning it is what matters.... Imagine saying Wenger is better than a coach that has won Europa league and has won as many cups in different leagues because he has taken arsenal to a CL and Europa league final

Techiekingee:
Wait first o..u av been mentioning dribble and mesmerising since....are u in any way saying that's only what Messi does??
Or Messi doesn't win Tough matches
Or Ronaldo wins all his tough matches??

Apart from these two , is there anything else that Messi does better than Ronaldo...ok add free kicks...not like Ronaldo wasn't better at these b4 if not for age ...

Techiekingee:
Which midfielder was better dan Paul scholes in 2008??...go bak and look at dat Manutd team...der wer d best in d world u can't deny....

Whr was kroose and modric when he became the first man in la Liga to score 40 goals in one season??.... modric and kroos weren't der but Ozil was.... go and check how many times ozil assisted ronaldo dat year...Ozil just couldn't assist in the champions League... Messi scored 31 and assisted 18, whose record came close to that??

2012 was a lucky year for dem...evryone knows...dey won narrowly....did dey win it again till 2017??

Messi can only play well in team specially set up for him....is Argentina also specially set up for him
Because
He's d top scorer of the AFA
He's d only player to win all these;
World cup golden ball
U21 world cup golden ball
Copa America best young player
Golden boy
Copa America golden ball
Etc....

And below is dia achievements for the last decades... please count carefully and tell us d result
..
If it isn't clear enough for u to see, u can use d link
https://messivsronaldo.net/#honours

According to what u are saying...it's easy to say that Ronaldo shines with whatever midfield he has... And scoles was not the best midfielder at that time. Lampard, Gerrard, kaka , iniesta, xavi were all better than him ...

U say they narrowly won it...dint barca narrowly win it the year b4 by 1 point ??

What has ozil won since he left Madrid??

All those Messi achievements u posted is crap... Stop posting children achievements....I wanna c manly achievements in the national team... What the hell is junior WC and Olympics?? Even Nigeria has achieved those as well...it was even Nigeria that they faced on both occasions... tournament awards are mostly given out of compensation..

Humanoid01:
Oga you are saying bullshit. Like I said, I am not a Barcelona fan, neither do I support Argentina as a country. So where's the bias here? You people keep saying he hasn't won anything in Argentina, how in the world does that make him less of a player? Will Messi play defense, attack, midfield and also keep for the team?

He always has his part to play and he does well. It's just unfortunate that Argentina which consists of great players gets to face teams that are above them in world football. You should count the number of finals he has gone to before you start talking. They qualified for the world cup final in 2014 and battled the German giants to few minutes to the end of extra time. A German team that destroyed Brazil 7-1. Oga wetin you dey talk? Has Ronaldo ever even gotten to semifinals with Portugal?

I don't care how many titles both players have won, all I can say is you can't see what Messi does on the pitch -- the way he dribbles past players, the assists he makes, his agility, and the kind of goals he scores -- and say any player is better than him. Do you even watch football at all? I am more concerned about how a player plays than how many titles he has won. This is the basis I have used to rate Messi above Ronaldo and there's absolutely no bias in that. Why is it that many of the players who have played with Ronaldo always rate Messi higher than him? These are people who have had firsthand personal experiences with them, how can you know any better?

Point of correction... Ronaldo first played in a WC semi final b4 Messi ....in fact ,his spot kick was what sent them thru to the semi final... Now will u say okocha is the best African player ever?? When there is Roger Miller. Samuel etoo , George yeah... U need to understand football is not only about ur skills dribbling , mesmerizing alone... Football has different arts, the art of dribbling, the art of defending, the art of making exquisite passes, the art or positioning, the art of anticipation , the art of controlling the team, the art of pulling out wins out of nothing, the art of heading the ball, shooting ,the art of blending into a new team easily, understanding the coaching instructions, reading the game , saving penalties and scoring penalties and free kicks ... Now u Messi fans think that the best footballers are the dribblers alone, that's just one part of an art in football... achievements and reliability to win the toughest of games is what determines the best... So as longevity that both have

Chosen1984:
Kemi haff come again!!

Seems like kemi and those celebrity pallbearers work hand in hand...if they appear near u, just start ur last prayers

Techiekingee:
Totally outclassed....
Ova d last five years, true
Ova Ronaldo's nine yrs in Real Madrid, No

Y 9 years...y do long?? So that u can sneak in 2011 CL and la Liga ...when real Madrid whr still gaining confidence after being a disaster for such a long time

Techiekingee:
First off, Nations league is d equivalent of Copa del rey wich u claimed isn't a serious tournament

Achievements of Ronaldo and messi for the last decade coming through...


"Madrid was like the present Milan till Ronaldo arrived... They hadn't appeared in a semi final in 6 yrs and was always trashed out after spending so much... Ronaldo turned the team around" ....
..Nothing was turned around until fast forward to 2013 wen d right players wer bought....dey wer heavily dominated by Barcelona and Guardiola even with ronaldo before d arrival of kroos and modric in 2013...u cant deny that....

No doubt Ronaldo is a great goal scorer....you can't deny that Modric and kroos are reaped the benefits of being world class midfielders by having a good forward like Ronaldo who finishes the attacks..... evidently, before kroos and Modric, Messi was always champions League top scorer...
Ronaldo peaked up when kroos and modric came over...

"Messi had not outrightly won top scorer in the CL since 2012 until last season... He was joint with Neymar and Ronaldo"....True Modric and kroos changed dat...and Ronaldo joined juve leaving kroos and modric...did he win top scorer of d champions League last year??

U can't deny d impact Real Madrid had on Ronaldo's career

"Ronaldo had better stats than Messi in the 09 final"........ astonishing!.... explain...messi was d highest Goal scorer in d competition with 9 goals... Messi scored a goal in d final and Ronaldo went blank....so explain to me how

When he was top scorer in 08 /09 at man u...was it modric and kroose that supplied him the passes?? He has been his team's outright top scorer for the past 11 yrs ... Whr was kroose and modric when he became the first man in la Liga to score 40 goals in one season?? Whr were they when he also won la Liga in 2012?? He is still doing it at juve at 35 despite juves slow style of attacking football...that's how u know s great man.... Messi can only play well in teams specially set up for him ....

aimmoney9:
I ONCE HAD A FOOTBALL COMMENTATOR SAY MESSI " IS THE SOLUTION TO ANY PROBLEM THAT PRESENTS ITSELF" LAST YEAR 2019

Y wasn't he the solution to them loosing 4.0 to Liverpool and 3.0 to Roma to b knocked out bk to bk or the solution to the final of the Copa del rey loss to Valencia ... Or the countless and endless disappointments in the national team...

Techiekingee:
So, has Messi not won a League trophy for d past 5yrs?, 4yrs?, 3yrs?,2yrs,??
You keep Undermining Messi's effort in the League because he totally outclassed Ronaldo in the League during Ronaldo's stay...

Just as Ronaldo outclassed him in the CL by trophies and top scorer best player... And the CL supersedes any league

Techiekingee:
Won two major trophies for Portugal.....Euro2016 and which

You claim Ronaldo has achieve more in 10years.... should i list their achievements??

If not for Ronaldo, real Madrid wud av bin doomed....i can't expect any worse than this from a girl ...real Madrid had d most European trophy before and after Ronaldo came.....more like if not for Madrid, Ronaldo wub av bin doomed...i still ask, where was Ronaldo's leadership before d arrival of kroos and modric

Since Ronaldo left, Man u hasn't seen semi final??...was ronaldo in d Man u team that played 2011 champions League final?? ....d question is how many EPL team have been to the Champions League final since 2011??...not just man utd....stop gving underserved Credit to Ronaldo cos u luv him

Wu won top scorer in champions League in 2015??


Messi is nothing but a local la liga champion?? ...But anytime e faces Ronaldo in the champions League, Ronaldo ghosts

The nations league is a major trophy played European standard with the best players in Europe participating....

Pls list their achievements in the past decade...

Madrid was like the present Milan till Ronaldo arrived... They hadn't appeared in a semi final in 6 yrs and was always trashed out after spending so much... Ronaldo turned the team around...

Had kroose or modric ever won a CL title b4?? Y dint they do it in their previous clubs??

If u read what I posted properly...u wud know that Messi had not outrightly won top scorer in the CL since 2012 until last season... He was joint with Neymar and Ronaldo...

They hv only faced 2ice ... Ronaldo had better stats than Messi in the 09 final...but they lost , so how did he ghost??

Techiekingee:
U just said The league trophy is serious, how many did Ronaldo win in 9years and how many champions League did messi win in 9years??

Mentioning 9yrs in this context is crap cos u can talking about relic trophies... The past 5 yrs ... Like comparing man u to man city now and u start mention the fergie yrs that was long time ago

Techiekingee:
And Ferguson is better thsn Mourinho too
Please do urself d favor or going back to read d previous messages and how we got here..

Is copa del rey a major trophy or not??

How many league trophies has ur team won in 5 years

The only 2 serious trophies in club football is CL and league...the rest is just a bunch of crap( world club cup inclusive)

So what if Madrid have won it once in 5 yrs ?? At least it was recent 2016/17...

Techiekingee:
Lol... u Ronaldo fans are always quick to mention Messi's shortcomings as if Ronaldo doesn't av any...

All this things you mentioned, ask urself...are they problems of a player or a team

Wu collected d champions League 2008-2009...(a match played btw Ronaldo's Man u And Messi's Barcelona?

Wu knocked out ronaldo and real madrid from champions League 2011


How many Laliga trophies did Ronaldo win in his nine years in real Madrid??

Ronaldo has not won a European golden boot in half a decade....

Ronaldo has never seen a world cup final or won any best player of international tournament

How many Portugal finals has Ronaldo scored in??

Who didn't win any champions League trophy until real Madrid bought modric in 2013 and kroos in 2014??
Where was e before d arrival of kroos and modric??

Stop giving us dinosaur records, past glory ... Champions league supersedes any European club trophy... Ronaldo has achieved more in the past decade than Messi ... Many teams win league titles in Europe yearly but only one team wins the champions league ... He has even won 2 major trophies for Portugal ( a weak European team that had never appeared in any final in history till Ronaldo became a part of the team) ... U guys think that dribbling and mesmerizing is what football is about.. leadership matters as well as taking control of the game when ur team mates are down and out... If not for Ronaldo, Madrid and Portugal wud hv been doomed ... Took man u to 2 finals, since he left , man u hvnt seen semi finals...

Messi is nothing but a local la Liga champion...that is the only thing he wins with with top scorer on the league as well... Won his first outright top scorer in the CL for the first last season since 2012

Techiekingee:
Why didn't u choose Guardiola because he has proven himself in more leagues than Ferguson??

Ferguson won trophies with Aberdeen...in fact , Aberdeen's best years was with Sir Alex ... Ur Messi has nothing to show apart from league titles with barca ,or has he won any other major trophy in 5 yrs??

oodua1stson:
name one tournament where ronaldo played for Portugal and he was named the best player.



Messi was best player at world cup, Olympics, copa America and u20 world cup all for Argentina


Ronaldo has never won best player at any tournament for Portugal .



Messi has done more for Argentina than ronaldo has done for portugal. 3 senior tournaments golden ball don't lie

Point of correction...more for himself and not Argentina... So the fans sent him to go win trophies and he is came bk with golden ball... Don't u see how foolish u think ... So personal awards is better than a nations trophy...lol... U must b a patient in yaba left

Humanoid01:
Exactly, I'm not a Barcelona fan, and obviously not an Argentine lol but I believe that Messi is by far a better player than Ronaldo. People who pick Ronaldo ahead of Messi are either sentimentalists or they don't know anything about football.

How can u reasonably agree with what u typed...this is the reason why the world is do messed up...do much hypocrisy... Even a robot knows that those that say Messi are very much biased... How come this same player that is the greatest according to u guys can't win anything with Argentina( a power house in football) if he was that good , he is meant to have won a major trophy with Argentina... Ok , hoe come he hasn't played in a final of the champions league in half a decade ever since xavi and iniesta Left... He only wins his local league as an achievement, and u lots are saying he is the greatest... U guys are just as crazy as those northern politicians

Techiekingee:
U just acting your moniker, Olodo
Where was Ronaldo wen Messi collected a champions League from him
Where was ronaldo wen ac Milan trashed man u 3-0,
Wer was e wen Germany trashed Portugal...
Better behave urself, u think anyone's invincible...
Wen ronaldo was in Madrid, wu did dey play for?
Casemiro abi??

When and how did Messi collect champions league from Ronaldo.. Messi that has not played in a CL final in half a decade after iniesta and xavi left ... Someone that just played in his first semi final last year since 2015 .. trashed by Roma 3.0 and Liverpool 4.0 back to back ... Lost every single major final that he has played for country without scoring a goal or supplying an assist ...

Babapyro:
Studies have shown people that say this particular words are not intellectually capable, it's not a joke be because nobody with a working brain can think like this.he has played against every big team you can think of and scored them so what's your point exactly

Studies have shown that people like u can never create anything reasonable or intellectually stimulating... So in ur head u don't know that playing for different teams is different from playing against different teams ... Can a danfo driver b a better driver in new York than Lagos??

Just because he is an expert in Lagos doesn't guarantee that he will b in London ... Use ur head pls

Techiekingee:
U just acting your moniker, Olodo
Where was Ronaldo wen Messi collected a champions League from him
Where was ronaldo wen ac Milan trashed man u 3-0,
Wer was e wen Germany trashed Portugal...
Better behave urself, u think anyone's invincible...
Wen ronaldo was in Madrid, wu did dey play for?
Casemiro abi??

Read what u typed again and see how embarrassingly dull u are

ZombiePUNISHER:
First..... Nigerians are not mourning

Secondly.. What do they mean by biggest victim?.. Are they saying that all those that died so far in the country are beneath kyari?... I'm not following

He is certainly the biggest victim so far .... Only insecure or not rich people think he is equal to other... Yes to God , we are all equal...but on earth we are not all equal

chronique:
Damn! When people were asked to stay at home and they refused, see where they are landing us. The consequences of this is not going to be funny. Firstly, this lock down is going to continue indefinitely cos no responsible government would allow people to continue going out with the infection rate steadily going up. If the lock down is canceled, expect to witness a geometric increase in the number of infections and deaths and this will not be funny. The situation would be worse than that of Italy and America. Secondly, it's pretty obvious that there are several thousands infected out there that we don't know about since they have not been tested and these people are spreading this thing so fast. People should pls fucking stay at home. Those still going out are not helping others.

This is theost irresponsible government in the world... they keep on repeating mistakes... How do u expect people that earn daily wages to stay home and u dint make adequate arrangements for them to b taken care of like other government... People must go outside to buy fuel for generator cos they dint provide light... People must find a way to hustle small cos of hunger cos they dint provide options... Y wudnt it b increasing..

kamez:
i disagree totally... ladies from rich homes are ass**holes (at least from the few that i have dated)...


broke girls are liabilities and always feel entitled..always on the lookout for that heaven sent guy to lift her and her entire family out of poverty....

after all my dating experiences thus far, i have come to the conclusion that the best type of babes to date are the ones who work and hustle for their own money...

these are the real wife material...not some daddy's girl hiding behind her fathers wealth

But hv u tot about the fact that if a she is from a struggling home but works and hustles for her money, most of the money will go bk to her family to survive ... She is always under pressure and that could lead her to temptations... She will most likely 4k to get a better job or contract cos she sees stuffs like that as her only opportunity

faithugo64:
If you have not been in a relationship with at least 100 women, then your assumption is wrong.

Have u been in at least a hundred relationships to agree that men are cheats??

This will b the first time African leaders will face a major pandemic...bad European leaders started to understand life better after wars and pandemics ... It made them wiser ... It showed them that a great political name is better than great political wealth...

If this pandemic will make African leaders receive sense, then let it be so... Now Europe, Asia and America no get una time to help cos they are also facing it ...

Besides, whr is osibande ??

archbishop007:
16k flat bro

20k last ... sorry but that's the best I can do

Casillas

lahm...cannavaro...puyol... Carlos


Makelele

Ronaldinho zidane


Rivaldo Henry. C.ronaldo



Sub...
Navas
Nesta
Carvahlio
Cafu
Dani alves
Xavi
Gerrard
Kaka
Figo
Batistuta
Messi
Bergkamp

Note.. every player in my first team have won major titles for both club and country or at least 2 different clubs and played vital roles in achieving that ...

Players not selected on purpose
De Lima( injury crisis)
Ramos ( red card master)
Buffon ( always has been protected by strong defense for club and country)
R.baggio ( penalty miss against Brazil affected his psych)
Viera ( too many red cards)
Roy Keane ( very stubborn)
Del piero ( fumbles in finals)
Giggs ( can't trust played for only man u)

Notable omissions but great
Raul
Shevchenko
Mario jardel
Lewandovski
Stam
Vidic
Iniesta
Marcelo
Pires
Zola
Effenberg
Eto
Hagi
Hidetoshi nakata
Maldini
Suarez
Bierhoff