₦airaland Forum

oyatz:
Who can determine who can rule and who can NOT rule.


In my personal opinion, i think Igbo politicians like Ike Ekweremadu, Peter Obi, Dave Umahi should serioulsy seek the PDP nomination for the presidential ticket because of the following reasons;

1) In politics, perceptions can have greater effects than reality.

You need to be heard and seen regularly before any body can take you serious.
Even if they don't win in 2023 ,they will make bold statements in the consciousness of Nigerians.

2) The negotiation angle: Even if Peter Obi slug in out with Atiku, Kwankanso or Tambuwal for the PDP ticket and he doesn't win, he and the igbos will be called for negotiation after the primaries as PARTNERS and not surbordinates.


In the USA, Black politicians have been participating in presidential politics for about twenty years before Barack Obama eventually became president in 2008.

The Rev Jesse Jackson made a bold political statement by running for the presidential ticket of the Democratic Party in 1986.

There was significant pressure on Gen Collins Powell to join the Presidential race in 1998 but he turned down the offer.

Nobody heard about OBJ before he was given ticket
If we contest and loose we would have made a statement while the fulanis will continue ruling

Our best bet is to join forces in the south to salvage nigeria

Area4Area:
The north can never join the Igbos in fighting any other group because they've lost all trust in Igbos after all the insults.

You are the ones that need the Yorubas to succeed, remember the 2011, 2015 and 2019 elections? Don't you realise that anyone the SW supports wins because your 5% can't measure up to theirs

Be deceiving your selves. If the north is boxed to a corner by the yorubas they wouldn't mind seeking igbos support to scatter your plans. The will also do the same with the yorubas if igbos box them to a corner

Your only saving grace is that igbos are not such betrayals.
See how we supported your amotekun but if it was the igbos your professors would have written several hate articles against it and even join forces to kill it

oyatz:
Zoning is not in the constitution but each party's INTERNAL arrangement.


Zoning is not even in the APC's constitution, so any APC member whether El-Rufai, Babachir Lawal or Fashola can contest for the party's ticket.

However, most party members feel that the Southern politicians who exercised patience and sacrifices in 2015 and 2019 should have the ticket.

Let's see how it goes because Alex ekwueme and Co also established PDP but just to heal the Yoruba wound OBJ that was in prison and didn't work for it was brought out granted pardon and he contested and won on the PDP platform that is not a Yoruba party. And yorubas were allowed to reap where they did not sow
A Yoruba party now came up their only main agenda is the marginalization of the igbos
They came out with a slogan that you don't reap where you did not sow even though we have igbo senators and reps and APGA was also part of the merger at the formative stage of APC

PrinceMajestic:
so is Nigeria in the Bible?

No, Nigerian is not in the Bible that is why I am not comparing it with Israel as you are doing with fulanis

oyatz:
Answer= Failures of Leadership.

Every country has its own problems and pass through certain problematic phases.

In the 19th century USA, similar armed bandits raiding communities without prosecution by the Government occured, mob actions and public lynching of certain controversial persons (e.g Joseph Smith) or unwanted minorities (e.g The Mormons) occured in the USA.

Even uptill recent years, many blacks were killed by the police without any
major consequences leading to the emergence of 'Black lives matter' campaigns.

In some West African countries, the Fulanis are also victims of marginalizations e.g Benin Rep, Niger Rep and Tchad.
In Central African Republic (CAR), Fulanis are sometimes hunted down and killed in similar ethnic clashes (i strongly condemn this)



The killings in Zamfara and Katsina have no religious colouration as both States are almost homogenous Muslim States and have similar ethnic backgrounds (Their peoples are of mixed Hausa-Fulani ancestries).

I hate it when people start quoting what happened centuries ago to justify what is happening now .a crime having a precedence doesn't mean we should be repeating it. Instead we should learn from it to avoid repetition
See the date you quoted where such things happened and I don't think it's proper for it to be repeated in Nigeria in 2020. That's absurd

You should only make such reference on the things we have learnt from it but not for justification

So we should allow ourselves to be a a revenge tool for the Fulanis on what others did to them in other countries

Godfullsam:
Is the late nnamdi azikiwe a Yoruba man?

He is the father of all betrayers and the destroyer is secession clause.
Google is your friend

Ojukwu repaired all their wrongs with aburi accord which allows for confederation but you joined hands to fight it

Azikiwe betrayed igbos not you that is the reason you people honored him in your N500 note

babaolofin:
You are just talking trash and meaningless story.

I am talking trash jona was building those things just that you don't want to acknowledge because he is an easterner

kingawothefirst:
You are free to exercise your civil rights and vote for any candidate of your choice. We have never criticised you for always allying with the north, it’s what you people have always done, so feel free!

Yoruba propaganda statistics if not when did igbos start answering obasanjo

kingawothefirst:
You are dumb as rocks, you can’t argue against how someone feels.

Answer the question, u feel marginalised under Buhari, what have you done about it?

You are dumber
We will do as you did in 2015
We will vote for a northerner and accept VP in 2023
Hope you are satisfied

kingawothefirst:
Jonathan wasn’t doing shit other than getting drunk and embezzling money. We felt marginalised under Jonathan and we did something about it. You feel marginalised under Buhari, what have you done about it?

Jona didn't marginalize you. It's just propaganda
It was tinubu that didn't support a speaker from yorubas instead he supported tambuwal

kingawothefirst:
Are you okay? We are not the ones being massacred, major developments are going on in the entire SW, too many for me to even list. Developments that never happened under that drunkard Jonathan.

Wasn't jona building your railway and Lagos ibadan express before you voted him out? Or what else is PMB building for you

BTW, I prefer my safety to buildings. Or who will use the buildings if herdsmen kill one before its completion
No my brother you are not the ones being massacred. The afenifere daughter and many unknown names who were killed are Easterners from eboyin.
You try, defender of the universe

oyatz:
Many of you react with just emotional rantings and nothing more.


In Katsina, the home state of the incumbent president, armed bandits are slaughtering the residents anyhow.

Fulani armed bandits have killed more people in Zamfara and Katsina than anywhere in the South. All these reflect failures of leadership and not really a constitutional matter.

However, elections into the presidency is a constitutional matter.

Fulanis are a minority tribe in Nigeria but the awe and fear with which you guys talk about them is arrogating more powers to them than they truly possess.

I repeat, no ethnic group in Nigeria can rule for 16years.

This can only happen if Nigeria were to be a small enclave like each of the present Geopolitical zone with 1-5 tribes, practicing almost the same religion and with similar world views.

In other parts of Africa, Post independent military rulers ruled for 30years but no single ruler ruled for more than 9 consecutive years in Nigeria ,even under military rule because Nigeria is too diversified, large and complex for one ethnic group to dominate and succeed for a long time.

What I said is the truth not emotions. Why have they not arrested and prosecuted anybody

What if it is the Christians in their states they are trying to wipe out just like the southern kaduna case

kingawothefirst:
No I don’t recognise him. Was Awolowo consulted and did he agree to the aburi accord? You are yet to post the aburi accord and what it officially said

You can Google it
I have low battery

Adebayo was your SW leader then so he was right.
Its just like allowing tinubu into the FEC meeting. It's uncalled for
As far as the document was good whether he was there or not he should have pointed out what was wrong with it.
They just deceived him with the president post and he rose against it

kingawothefirst:
Col Adebayo

Why the laughter
Or you don't recognize him and the authority of Gowon that appointed him?

kingawothefirst:
Buhari’s presidency has benefited us more than GEJ’s ever did for us. In retrospect, the people (I was against it) that put Buhari there clearly made the right move.

Benefitted you at the expense of the the killings and also at the threshold of loosing your lands

Abeg say another thing jare

kingawothefirst:
The north have no choice but to tow the line, if they violate the constitution, they’d be dealt with too. Abi you forgot that it was Yorubas that removed the drunkard Jonathan and put Buhari at the head of the table? We take action, we don’t just chest beat.

Agreed to by who, whose signatures were in the aburi accord? Was Awolowo present, did he give his blessings? Did he sign the aburi accord too? What was in the aburi accord, tell us what it said and who agreed.

The western government was there lead by col adebayo and Gowon was there too
The aburi talked about confederation type of government which allowed for each region to rule herself according to its resources, strength and capacity and to develop at its own pace.

What is wrong in this that made you people fight it

kingawothefirst:
The north have no choice but to tow the line, if they violate the constitution, they’d be dealt with too. Abi you forgot that it was Yorubas that removed the drunkard Jonathan and put Buhari at the head of the table? We take action, we don’t just chest beat.

Agreed to by who, whose signatures were in the aburi accord? Was Awolowo present, did he give his blessings? Did he sign the aburi accord too? What was in the aburi accor
d, tell us what it said and who agreed.

SW government was there what else do you want.
The aburi talked about confederation type of government where each region rules herself.
What is bad in this that will make awolowo fight it

kingawothefirst:
Repair the bridges you’ve burnt first, stop constantly insulting other tribes unnecessarily and hold your leaders accountable for their divisiveness.

Support APC and a Yoruba President, and properly integrate yourselves into Nigeria’s political sphere, only then would someone from the SE be considered as a presidential candidate, until then, nothing for you people, your toxic nature will never allow you to become president of this nation.

Anyway, the owners of nigeria have told you in another tread that they will rule forever

So with ordinary insults we can't rule but with the killings, boko haram, Iswap, lootings, bandits, sharia, Ruga and the ownership of the whole of nigeria comments the northerns can rule.
Continue your hatred

kingawothefirst:
We don’t need Igbos if we want to leave, all we need to do is convince two thirds of the house and senate to amend the constitution. Something we’re not going to do that until we are at the head of the table, then we have leverage to negotiate on our own terms. By the time we’re through, not a single shot will be fired.

And you think the north will tow your line.
Why have we not achieved restructuring since.
The north will not give you the needed numbers to flourish with
Remember aburi accord in Ghana was agreed and signed but they later used force to scuttle it

kingawothefirst:
Please explain to me how the aburi accord fixed anything and what were the Yorubas input in the aburi accord. What did the aburi accord say and what was Awolowo’s impression of the Aburi accord.

The confederation type of government where each region rules himself according to his strength, resources and ability settles all.
But you all fought against it.

Everybody that matters were there including the president and SW governor then. They approved it in the meeting and later came back to use forces on the Biafrans.
If you people didn't fight it we wouldn't be having all these problems

oyatz:
This bros is funny sha. The constitution has already made provisions against such dominations.


Nigeria is not a homogenous country. No region/party can rule for a very long time in Nigeria.


This country is very complex. You just buy popcorn ,relax and be watching.You will see the massive anti-Fulani sentiments that such attempts will generate.

Even for Atiku (as detribalized as he seems to be) to try to suceed Buhari, another Fulani man in 2023, you will see reactions of many people, even from the North. You just keep watching.

Is it in the Constitution that your people can't go to their farms again because of killings and nobody is prosecuted

Stay there dey follow constitution while the fulanis unfollow it and nothing happens

kingawothefirst:
So the man who towed this path is not igbo abi? Sango thunder fire all of una

All these precedes aburi accord /restructuring which you all fought

Osaze007:
They have freedom of expression same way you claim to own 95% of Lagos

We own Lagos and they own nigeria. But you will choose to fight only igbos
At least we are not greedy

kingawothefirst:
Ojukwu did not repair anything, are you out of your mind? Where is the restructuring document and what does it say?

What about the millions of people the biafran army killed? What of the bombs your rebels set off in Lagos?

Yes, we fought and dealt with the people that betrayed us and broke our constitution, we fought and dealt with the people who fought against Boro’s Niger Delta Republic only to proceed to annex them into their Biafra Republic, we fought and dealt with the people who fought against Awolowo’s plan to allow any state to secede peacefully by making provisions for a secession clause in our constitution if they decide they no longer want to be part of Nigeria.

We fought against those people and won, try it again and we will deal with you again, simple and plain.

The aburi has repaired all these your accusations.
All that you said there precedes the aburi accord restructuring but you chose to fight it
The aburi accord allowed for confederation which is the same as restructuring that we are clamoring for today

Godfullsam:
With the look of things, yorubas will leave Nigeria before igbos.
Igbos don't have one voice and they the most u serious and clueless set of people.

I have bn hearing of Biafra since when I was a child. Up till date, you guys have not done any thing meaningful to actualize your dream.
If yorubas want to go, I don't think it will take them this long. The yorubas know how to get what ever they want from the zoo.

Stop making noise, you can only succeed if igbos support you.
If igbos join forces with the north to fight you just the way you people did to them it will not succeed.
You betray a people and still mock them. You people are evil

hero2000:
If (that's a big IF) God truly gave them Nigeria, nothing anyone can do about it. God gave Israel Canaan. What could the people of Canaan essentially do about it? Nothing.

When these Fulani guys are put in their rightful place then we will know God didn't give them NADA.

Is fulani written in the Koran? No

So don't compare Israel with them

AnanseK:
Of course this reporting cannot be accurate. It is shared with the objective of increasing hatred and stigmatization of certain groups.

There are people desperate to destroy Nigeria by all means.

God help us by limiting the destruction to them only.

So all the killings happening in the country is not objective enough for you

No be only objective na theory

kingawothefirst:
Nnamdi Azikiwe is the main culprit here after Luggard. Zik ruined the foundation of this country.

And Ojukwu repaired it with his restructuring /aburi accord but you all joined forces and fought against him killing about 3million of his people while bragging with it till date

Oya Food don done. Be ready oooo

PrinceMajestic:
They believe Allah gave them Nigeria as their promise land but they know is your Ancestral land. Just like sky god of christians showed people's ancestral land to Israelites as promise land. But you Christian support such evil in Bible but Allah and his Fulani terrorists are doing the same sh!t to you then why upset?

Show us where they wrote that fulanis own nigeria in the Quran

You Muslims like comparing things in an absurd way. Have you ever seen the name Nigeria in the Quran?
That of Israel is boldly written in the Bible.

oyatz:
Any fool can make any statement about politics,that doesnt make it the Gospel truth.

No Empire reigns forever!

The Roman, The Sassanid and The Ottoman Empires were greater than the Fulanis and they didn't rule forever.
They can't definitely rule forever but what about the generations that would have suffered and wasted trying to drag power back



Change is the only thing constant.

They will definitely not rule forever but what about the generations that would have been wasted trying to drag back power from them.
That is what I am saying that we need a united south.

LesbianBoy:
No wahala

South East would be happy as far as South West don't rule again.

SW are the betrayals of the south. They want to colonize any southern slot to themselves alone

But the owners they installed have spoken. They rule you forever

oyatz:
So if i am seeking the nomination of my party, PDP as her presidential candidate that mean i am campaiging against Igbos?

If a major ethnic group like the Igbos are wailing like this, what do you want the Ogonis, Efik or Urhobos to do?


Igbo politicians should join the presidential race, Fulani ,Nupe, Tiv and Yoruba aspirants should all collect presidential forms and convince the party delegates to vote for them.


When and how did you come to the conclusion that it is your turn and how do you enforce this zoning?



How will you force non-igbo presidential candidates to withdraw from the race?

This would have been much easier if we are still doing PDP one-party rule but the emergence of the APC mean we now have two major political parties subject to different authorities.

The fulanis have said that we are wasting our time that they will rule you forever so I am done arguing. I give up, we can't win them, you people should be ready to form another NADECO that will fight our oppressors for another 20 years for freedom