[quote author=BKayy post=104284855]
US will lose. They know it.
[s]Most of their men are already emasculated unlike the Eastern bloc. US is just dodging. They know the reign of the West is coming to an end and power will switch to the East which will bring about the decolonization of Africa and expulsion of Western leeches from her[[/s]/quote]


You need more world knowledge

donbachi:
America strong oo.if dis was all naija matter,without any link with america..him go still dey work,even become igp.

GOD abeg,make all naija problem dey get links with america. solution is sure.

See this one dem dey deceive you... Lol the suspension na holiday to help plan their next move

Grace001:
Too bad most southerners want kyari down fall, even though he may be guilty.

This is what I have observed about all these kyari issue.


Arewa (Northerners) feeling so bad and embarrassed that one of their own special son is indicted. Arewas have been so cold

Southerners on the other hand are rejoicing for kyari downfall.

This is what happen when you fake UNITY and ONE nation in a country of many nations .

If a foreigner should read most of the comment here about Kyari, the foreigner would think there are two different countries

[b]Happy one Nigeria[/b].

Bleep your one Nigeria

TAO11:
LMAO!

For the sake of educating you, Ruy de Sequeira is the name of the European explorer who described the waters of Lagos area by the words Lago de Curamo, meaning Lake of Curamo. De Sequeira’s exploration of the west African coast was around the year 1472.

The foregoing details on Ruy de Sequeira’s “Lago de Curamo” is at least according to a chronicle written in the 1500s, and first published in the year 1563 by Antonio Galvão. Refer to reference below:

Antonio Galvão, ”Tratado Dos Descobrimentos,” 1563, p. 129.

I don’t have any screenshot to help you with. You do the work you needed me to do for you.

Now you have the reference. Go ahead and hop from library to library.

Cheers!

Cc: rhektor, lifeisgood12

Its gregyboy and this my other account


Anyway i got banned on my gregyboy account and my reply to you was deleted

I wrote a long writeup in my mention to you that was Deleted and i know i didnt break any rule

Anyway am not writing any further long writeup


I just need the actual quote by Ruy de Sequeira’s calling lagos lago de curamo i have done my search and i found nothing but a futile attempt to rewrite history for self glorification



I will be needing is original quotation in his exact quote, by a foreign author describing the land of lagos he visited


Because as far as i know lagos in 1600 when benin attacked was still fairly inhabited not to say 1400,when there was no commercial activites on its shores, but i will assume the Portuguese mistakenly found himself there

Thanks like i said i have done my research all i got was Nigerian author circulating his name without his exact quote

ManuelNate1:
Ok, I just wanna share with u guys my earlier experience today
There's this girl I met on Facebook. We got chatting and became acquainted. She came visiting. I actually told her to come to my office. Later took her to my apartment. We had a lil chiy chat and den she left.
Few days later this later called that I should lend her 5k. I knew the money would go to voicemail so I declined. After a lil while she called and requested for airtime, I told her it was too early and I hadnt even gone to the office. I can't send her airtime.
So our communication slowed... It wasn't frequent again. So she offered to come visit me and get sum cash... I told her that if she's gonna come slip over ama give her the cash. That I wanted to Bleep her. This girl started singing songs of Solomon to me on how shes not that type of girl blabla...
I didnt even bother about her matter sef...
Fast forward to today... I saw her missed call...called back and we got talking. She said she was coming over, I said okay. She came over and we got talking.she went to the kitchen and prepared wat we'll eat.
Afterwards I started caressing her, babe didnt kept still... From one touch to anoda... We got fucking.
To be candid... She was sweet and soft.
People of God! Twas after three rounds of raw fucking that that my brain booted to default settings that I realized I didn't use condoms.
I went to the bathroom and cleaned up...dashed out to the pharmacy, got
2 determine strip(HIV testing strip, blood lanset, and mormal saline). I came back to meet her... Did the test for the both of us and it was both negative.
Omoh I heaved a sigh of relief... We still continued our fucking... I bleeped her till she became sour and cudnt take it no more��
Babe start singing love songs to me about how she didn't realize she loved me dat much until naw���,dat I need to cut off from my other girls. Plus she asked if I had a girlfriend... I denied ������
And told her I had a girl but it was a long distance relationship.
Babe now forced me to accept that we are officially dating ( chai!!)
While going she almost emptied my cartoon of noodles and and crate of eggs.
I was just cursing her in my mind.
Gave her money for to and postinor 2.
Now she's now allowing me to rest with love chats on FB... She's beginning to annoy me already.

Why do u have to say this publicly, u bleeped a lady and so,

Na d toto sweet u reach like dat u come post am make we read


As you don post am now drop the girl number make we try our luck

Drdreyy:


I don't believe they used an antidote. The military have different grades of guns. The impact of some of them is like a mini bomb or grenade. No charm in this world can work against such. A .50BMG for example will clear anything within its path.

Suppose disappear na


Omo some charm dey na automatic if d gun pass am e go disappear


Make dem tell us how dem take kill am

Nigeria must break

And edo must be a republic on their own

D guy too expose himself, dey just gun him down with d antidotes of d jazz

UyaiIncomparabl:
OP, your ment is overripe.

I am never going to stay with any man "for better or worse".

For better, I stay. For worse, I japa.

You walking corpses should be castrated and cast into the abyss. I wonder why God created you lots, though. We should have all existed as women. The world would have been less stressed without you stinking cocks.

Perish in hell.

See this one u never see better cock wen go make u apologize for this nonsense wen u write to men


Na we men suppose to dey complain make dem carry women go anoda planet

mekaboy:
And most times when you start paying, you think you are in love. When you look back at how much you have spent on the girl, you cant let you. You keep paying and being hopeful.

All this would have ended if you asked for sex immediately she asked for money.

The one that likes you wont block you or stop reading your messages because u did not give her money.

One demanded 3k from me 3days ago a lady we just started chatting within 3days just Bill me money na i bill am sex, she vex nor reply me again na so i delete am....

mekaboy:
Don't be intimidated by their expensive phone or hair. She will tell you do you know how much my phone is or my hair. Just because of 30k i should come and sleep with you.

Its 30k contributions from different men that they use to buy it.

Sometimes they are lucky to sleep with rich sugar daddy's that can dash them 100k or 200k. But they dont come around often.

Stand your ground. She will either block you, or stop responding to your chats as fast as she use to, or she knows that you know what she knows and comply.

Dont try to buy her attention by giving her the money. You will keep paying.

Na format wen dem dey use

Na yahoo girls na i dey call them

BeautyO:
The moment you ask a woman for sex you're a rapist

D lady wen dey ask for miney na ritualist, make we leave am like that

TAO12:
Three quick points:

(1) The statement you quoted here is made-up and spurious because it is not present anywhere within the pages of Robert Smith (1969).

(2) In fact, 1969 is a date which comes after Egharevba had published Benin’s version and redaction in the 1950s.

There exists account of Lagos history (The Lagos-Yoruba account) which are many, many decades earlier than the Egharevba’s Benin account.

The Lagos account speaks of a regular immigration of Binis to Lagos [as well as other groups], and a permission to land was given to them on the island, [just as it was given to other groups]

The Lagos account speaks of the reigning dynasty of Lagos (the Eleko dynasty) has having been founded by a Yoruba progenitor who goes by the name Ashipa. However, the same account mentions the maternal Benin connection through Ashipa’s wife.

(3) If the 1950s Benin account was the earlier, then Binis may possibly have a case. However, they have no case for being too late. Their redaction (though popular) can not overturn the early account of the people.

And your attachment (which I would reattach here) quote shows that the Yoruba account of Lagos is at odds with the Benin self consoling (self contradictory) of a latter date.

I will never even quote egharevba anyday as refrence to benin history you should know me by now

TAO12:
Can you show me an evidence that your kingdom is called Benin?

Now you boring me.......



They, should leave you with me so i will sense inside you,

TAO12:
The female author is Jungwith, and she is being quoted by the author of the paper you screenshoted.

And the author you screenshoted proceeds to debunk Jungwirth for undue simplification as she ignores the internal contradiction in the Benin account.

The author you screenshoted also debunks her as well as for being ignorant of the Lagos account (earlier than the Binis) which already refutes any future falsehood such as the Benins account.

English is surely a hard language for Edos.


UNGRY POOR FABRICATOR!

Anyways find someone around who knows English and Edo, and ask them to read the attachment below in Edo language. That should help.

Ok, are we going to be refrencing our local reprot as fact you want us to take the history of lagos people from lagosians and you want us not to use the benin own version... Lol... Why to be comfortable when you lie....


If you request earliest eye witness by ulsmier
Which etinosa has clearly brought out to you


The lagos version cannot be accepted, anything beyond 1914 has been doctored and motivated by tribal setinment


We are also not going to use that of the benins

We are using records below 1914


Is that fair enough.....?

TAO12:
(1) And there is finally an appollo epidemic in Benin because there is no “oko” anywhere in my comment. You are clearly under pressure to reply at all cost whether it makes sense or not.

(2) The name “Ereko” is starring hard at you as used for Lagos in that picture, yet you chose insanity because you mean to hide tears.

(3) Yes “Eko” entered into Benin lexicon only after you encountered the word in Lagos in the 1500s/1600s.

Csn you give me the proper referencing to this your ereko author


Hmm... Lemme check something

ToInfinity7777:

Keep giving yourself headache on top my own history��

I have studied your history and devoid it of myth

We know how the myth of Oduduwa flew to benin..... It all originated after amalgamation

And not historically based

TAO12:
Three quick points:

(1) The statement you quoted here is made-up and spurious because it is not present anywhere within the pages of Robert Smith (1969).

(2) In fact, 1969 is a date which comes after Egharevba had published Benin’s version and redaction in the 1950s.

There exists account of Lagos history (The Lagos-Yoruba account) which are many, many decades earlier than the Egharevba’s Benin account.

The Lagos account speaks of a regular immigration of Binis to Lagos [as well as other groups], and a permission to land was given to them on the island, [just as it was given to other groups]

The Lagos account speaks of the reigning dynasty of Lagos (the Eleko dynasty) has having been founded by a Yoruba progenitor who goes by the name Ashipa. However, the same account mentions the maternal Benin connection through Ashipa’s wife.

(3) If the 1950s Benin account was the earlier, then Binis may possibly have a case. However, they have no case for being too late. Their redaction (though popular) can not overturn the early account of the people.

And your attachment (which I would reattach here) quote shows that the Yoruba account of Lagos is at odds with the Benin self consoling (self contradictory) of a latter date.

Again do you read what you undeline it clearly stated that the benin tradition of the origin of lagos as a camp is a fact

Then it went ahead to tell you that particular female author never attempted to deniel this fact



Are you also also my quote was doctored by me..... If you make me find d pdf and send a screenshot would you agree to aend me 200 dollars to compensate my time

TAO12:
Three quick points:

(1) The statement you quoted here is made-up and spurious because it is not present anywhere within the pages of Robert Smith (1969).

(2) In fact, 1969 is a date which comes after Egharevba had published Benin’s version and redaction in the 1950s.

There exists account of Lagos history (The Lagos-Yoruba account) which are many, many decades earlier than the Egharevba’s Benin account.

The Lagos account speaks of a regular immigration of Binis to Lagos [as well as other groups], and a permission to land was given to them on the island, [just as it was given to other groups]

The Lagos account speaks of the reigning dynasty of Lagos (the Eleko dynasty) has having been founded by a Yoruba progenitor who goes by the name Ashipa. However, the same account mentions the maternal Benin connection through Ashipa’s wife.

(3) If the 1950s Benin account was the earlier, then Binis may possibly have a case. However, they have no case for being too late. Their redaction (though popular) can not overturn the early account of the people.

And your attachment (which I would reattach here) quote shows that the Yoruba account of Lagos is at odds with the Benin self consoling (self contradictory) of a latter date.

Should we start posting earlies account

Yes
Or
No

EzeNri:

We have always told them that Yoruba is a political alliance of minority tribes in the western region.

Yep


Even the benin-ife myth started after the Benin fell to the British, when oba eweka11 was reinstalled in 1914 as the oba of benin after years of the stool being vacant

Then it was still indirect rule were monarchs were used to govern, so he made political aliance with the western monarchs for political strength
And he was added as an Oduduwa sons

And the historical myth was published on how the imaginary oromiyan came to establsih benin royal stool

Note this

Oromiyan is indigenous to oyo people and not ife

Oduduwa was created from the imagination of samuel Johnson....

Ifa was what was indigenous to ife, the woship of
Ifa was by the people of ife alone, it was the name ifa that they corrupted the name to ife,



So oba eweka11 didn't mind the postion the made up myth kept him below the ooni, after oba eweka11 had died and oba akenzua couldn't take the insult yorubas were given him and edo people in western region, and they planned on how to move out, before awolwo also provoked the rest of delta people and the fate of Midwest's was sealed


So after midwest was established the oba of benin began throwing shades at the yoruba monarchs and rewrote the myth his father agreed to, as one of Oduduwa son, but this time the benin wrote Oduduwa came from them....

This is how the myth is still going on till today

Fezz, KingOKON, UGBE634,

TAO12:
Refutation class is about to begin.

All Benin dullards must be seated by 10:30 AM (Nigeria Time)

No one would be allowed to come in once I begin.

Start getting seated now.

Thank you.

Cc:@BiniSupremacist).

Cc: @KingOKON

Cc: @Fezz

Cc: @UGBE634 (yoruba pretending as benin)

Tao11 the lieing machines aka bobrisky, transgender

TAO12:
Refutation class is about to begin.

All Benin dullards must be seated by 10:30 AM (Nigeria Time)

No one would be allowed to come in once I begin.

Start getting seated now.

Thank you.

Stop trolling and reply me dullard


Who is so scared to refrence properly so as not to be caught on her lies

nisai:
Edo chief in wailer, don't worry, you have just discovered and begun your hobby.

This one just the troll

Weak men, if it was a real battle TAO11 TAO12 would have longed rotten

I count how many times i have removed her heads but her mouth wont just die

ToInfinity7777:

Which Ondo state are you talking about? The grandson of Oduduwa from Ile-Ife was the founder of Akure, and I'm a direct descendant of Oduduwa. It's your own headache if you're arguing my history with me.
I can smell jealousy, we Yoruba are great, God has lifted us up already, and there's nothing you can do about that!

Didect descendant of Oduduwa that never existed this guy sha




Is a pity you guys hold to one friction to cover up history you guys never had


Oduduwa myth was made up by an oyo writer in 1897 to flasely unite the yorubas into one ancestory to avert the war the yorubas were about to fight

The writer was Samuel johson....
Who wrote the history of yorubas, thinking uniting all yorunas into one ancestory will help them form unity because he knew one day the European would come and have them colonize into one entity and his book would be useful


Surely the day came, when awolowo sort to unite the yorubas with the book of Samuel johson the various tribes in yoruba frowned at it, until he educated them on the need to for political strength and they agreed to the Oduduwa one ancestory myth


Now you claiming the frictional Oduduwa as your
Ancestors makes me want to know you on your head for not knowing this fact

Ezenri
EzeNri

TAO12:
Did I say Benin learnt bronze casting from the Yorubas? No I didn’t say that.

It is Benin traditional account that insists that the knowledge and technique of bronze casting was taught to the Binis by the bronze casters from the ancient city of Ife.

It is not my fault that you’re ignorant of your own traditional account.

I think you’re one of those block heads who do not read what they type replies to.

I already told you that Benins didn’t establish any land, neither did they name any land as Eko. Do you have selective seeing disease?

Here is my reply again in case your brain was under lock and keys earlier, or perhaps you have no brain at all.

(1). The idea that Lagos island was established or named (Eko) by Binis is a big fat myth that developed from Benin and was first published by them in the 1950s.

(2). The proof lies in the fact the received published accounts of Lagos history (which existed many decades before the Benin myth) already confirmed that the name Eko [contraction of Ereko] was named by Yorubas. ~ See: D’Avezac (1845: p.26).

(3). Also, Lagos island had long, long been named Eko by Yorubas prior to when any of the foreign elements (viz. Aja, Benin, or Ijaw) immigrated to the area for the first time [to take part in the European coastal trade]. ~ See: Alan C. Burns (1929: p.44).

(4). In the light of the foregoing received accounts, the reality then appears to be that:

The Binis immigrated to Lagos in the mid/late 1500s like other groups. They set up their own camp on the part of the island allocated to them. They then encountered the name Eko as the pre-existing name of the island of which their camp occupies a fraction. The name Eko then slowly flowed overtime into the their lexicon and ultimately acquired the meaning ‘camp’ among them.

This is quite corroborated with the fact that some older words actually exist for ‘camp’ in the Bini language, and those are: ‘Ago’ [and perhaps ‘Oxogbo’].

I have already provided you with the information passed down by the indigenous account of Oduduwa’s historical roots, but you appear too scared to want to hear it.

You can’t on one hand ask me what the tradition says, and another hand get sacred of hearing what it says. You have to make up your mind. The indigenous Yoruba account says:

Oduduwa grew up in the Oke-Ora hilly settlement on the outskirts of the Ife bowl. His youth, since moving down to the Ife bowl, was spent in the Omologun ward of Ife. He thereafter moved from there to set up his base at the Idio ward of Ife acter emerging as the ruler of a unified Ife following some period of great political turmoil in Ife. His personal family at Idio became the royal family from which all the different present-day royal families of Ife have emerged.

Having educated you on that, why do you need him so badly to be one of your ancestors? The received/extant traditions of Benin history disallows that he is from you. Stop trying hard to contradict your own history. No he is not one of your ancestors, he is your ‘conqueror’.

Will you now answer my questions which I have been asking? How long did it take Mr. Idu to treck from Rome to Edo state? Did Igodo’s parachute fail when he crash- landed from heaven to Edo state?

And when was Olugbo (in Ilaje) conferred with the honorary title of Professor of Ife history?

Binis are clearly a bunch of dullards who would sing the praises of anyone who massage their tiny ego. You all feel so little no matter how hard you try to veil it.

Now to debunk you properly:
EVEN IF an Australian immigrate from Australia to live in a very remote part of the world — say Congo — among some very remote & isolated natives; it still would NOT take him 16 years to master the natives’s language no matter how hard he is determined to not socialize.

The foregoing illustration is thus an example of making use of ratiocination to corroborate the assertion that the Olugbo (in Ilaje) is terribly wrong in his poorly thought out fabrication of his personal narrative.

Cheers!

Cc: nisai, gomojam

Oduduwa growing up in oke era is a new myth formulated bu your people to cover up is sky diving skills, whuch we benins and igbos used in mocking you lots, i know when you started using oke era for debate



Anyway.....

People giving you listening ears instead of punishing you, are the biggest problem


Any information from Oduduwa should be referenced to samuel johson or earliest record before 1914 only there we can find truth and not modern revisionist propaganda flanged up as history


Oduduwa didnt exist anyway but trying to remove
His diving skills and making him a born resident at oke-era removes is divine abilities and a deliberate attempt to sabotage history in modern times



Again your refrence are poor imagine those refrenxe you put up there is that how they refrence in your fathers village and you claim youre a resident in america and not oshogbo


Those tribal marks on your face is having a big toll on your reasoning capabilities


Learn to refrence properly

Name of the author
Title of the book or article
Year
Convince sake attach direct links to it
.....

Not that rubbish up there

TAO12:
Did I say Benin learnt bronze casting from the Yorubas? No I didn’t say that.

It is Benin traditional account that insists that the knowledge and technique of bronze casting was taught to the Binis by the bronze casters from the ancient city of Ife.

It is not my fault that you’re ignorant of your own traditional account.

I think you’re one of those block heads who do not read what they type replies to.

I already told you that Benins didn’t establish any land, neither did they name any land as Eko. Do you have selective seeing disease?

Here is my reply again in case your brain was under lock and keys earlier, or perhaps you have no brain at all.

(1). The idea that Lagos island was established or named (Eko) by Binis is a big fat myth that developed from Benin and was first published by them in the 1950s.

(2). The proof lies in the fact the received published accounts of Lagos history (which existed many decades before the Benin myth) already confirmed that the name Eko [contraction of Ereko] was named by Yorubas. ~ See: D’Avezac (1845: p.26).

(3). Also, Lagos island had long, long been named Eko by Yorubas prior to when any of the foreign elements (viz. Aja, Benin, or Ijaw) immigrated to the area for the first time [to take part in the European coastal trade]. ~ See: Alan C. Burns (1929: p.44).

(4). In the light of the foregoing received accounts, the reality then appears to be that:

The Binis immigrated to Lagos in the mid/late 1500s like other groups. They set up their own camp on the part of the island allocated to them. They then encountered the name Eko as the pre-existing name of the island of which their camp occupies a fraction. The name Eko then slowly flowed overtime into the their lexicon and ultimately acquired the meaning ‘camp’ among them.

This is quite corroborated with the fact that some older words actually exist for ‘camp’ in the Bini language, and those are: ‘Ago’ [and perhaps ‘Oxogbo’].

I have already provided you with the information passed down by the indigenous account of Oduduwa’s historical roots, but you appear too scared to want to hear it.

You can’t on one hand ask me what the tradition says, and another hand get sacred of hearing what it says. You have to make up your mind. The indigenous Yoruba account says:

Oduduwa grew up in the Oke-Ora hilly settlement on the outskirts of the Ife bowl. His youth, since moving down to the Ife bowl, was spent in the Omologun ward of Ife. He thereafter moved from there to set up his base at the Idio ward of Ife acter emerging as the ruler of a unified Ife following some period of great political turmoil in Ife. His personal family at Idio became the royal family from which all the different present-day royal families of Ife have emerged.

Having educated you on that, why do you need him so badly to be one of your ancestors? The received/extant traditions of Benin history disallows that he is from you. Stop trying hard to contradict your own history. No he is not one of your ancestors, he is your ‘conqueror’.

Will you now answer my questions which I have been asking? How long did it take Mr. Idu to treck from Rome to Edo state? Did Igodo’s parachute fail when he crash- landed from heaven to Edo state?

And when was Olugbo (in Ilaje) conferred with the honorary title of Professor of Ife history?

Binis are clearly a bunch of dullards who would sing the praises of anyone who massage their tiny ego. You all feel so little no matter how hard you try to veil it.

Now to debunk you properly:
EVEN IF an Australian immigrate from Australia to live in a very remote part of the world — say Congo — among some very remote & isolated natives; it still would NOT take him 16 years to master the natives’s language no matter how hard he is determined to not socialize.

The foregoing illustration is thus an example of making use of ratiocination to corroborate the assertion that the Olugbo (in Ilaje) is terribly wrong in his poorly thought out fabrication of his personal narrative.

Cheers!

Cc: nisai, gomojam

_{Robert Smith
University of Lagos
the great lagoon1 which stretches some eighty miles to the east of Lagos (where
a channel enters the sea) has long provided a livelihood for the Awori and Ijebu
fishermen whose villages cluster on its shores and a highway for trade, warfare
and conquest. The Lagos and Ijebu kingdoms maintained fleets of war canoes
on its shallow waters, and it was by this route that the armies of Benin travelled
to establish in the sixteenth or seventeenth century a still-reigning dynasty at
Lagos. Westward, a river and lagoon system formed a sheltered waterway to
Badagry, in the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries the terminus of the
trade road from the inland kingdom of Oyo, and thence beyond Yoru}
Robert smith(1969)

UGBE634:
Leave that clown

See this yoruba coward pretending to be Benin

EzeNri:

So you are now Egba?

You guys are fraud like TAO11 that once claimed Ijebu, Awori and is now claiming both when her lies were busted.

You are not Egba Sir. Egbas are proud of their origin and not a yoruba-media imposed one.

Be proud of Ogbomosho, sir.

The ogbomosho part got me laughing hard

Wishing they kept their tribal marks for identifications

Those long tribal mark

nisai:
Erukeru abi lala lenu.

Tao11, seems this your student will never succeed in history. you should register him as an apprentice under Miyetti Allah. Trekking with cows from sokoto to Edo should make him much more useful to his Edo community than the disservice he is doing to the Oba and the community here.

Yorubas as usual are cowards who are good at mouth making

nisai:
Ore wa, how's study? Hope lecturer Tao is not too swift with whip?

Ndi ra

TAO12:
Lol.

So, this is the best ypu can bring having a yoruba coward like ugbe to be pretending as bini to troll we benins