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Gbola5:
“Power is a curious thing, my lord. Perchance you have considered the riddle I posed you that day in the inn?”
“It has crossed my mind a time or two,” Tyrion admitted. “The king, the priest, the rich man who lives and who dies? Who will the swordsman obey? It’s a riddle without an answer, or rather, too many answers. All depends on the man with the sword.”
"And yet he is no one,” Varys said. “He has neither crown nor gold nor favor of the gods, only a piece of pointed steel.”
“That piece of steel is the power of life and death.”
“Just so... yet if it is the swordsmen who rule us in truth, why do we pretend our kings hold the power? Why should a strong man with a sword ever obey a child king like Joffrey, or a winesodden oaf like his father? “
“Because these child kings and drunken oafs can call other strong men, with other swords.” “Then these other swordsmen have the true power. Or do they? Whence came their swords? Why do they obey?” Varys smiled. “Some say knowledge is power. Some tell us that all power comes from the gods. Others say it derives from law. Yet that day on the steps of Baelor’s Sept, our godly High Septon and the lawful Queen Regent and your everso-knowledgeable servant were as powerless as any cobbler or cooper in the crowd. Who truly killed Eddard Stark do you think? Joffrey, who gave the command? Ser Ilyn Payne, who swung the sword? Or... another?” Tyrion cocked his head sideways. “Did you mean to answer your damned riddle, or only to make my head ache worse?”
Varys smiled. “Here, then. Power resides where men believe it resides. No more and no less.” “So power is a mummer’s trick?”
“A shadow on the wall,” Varys murmured, “yet shadows can kill. And ofttimes a very small man can cast a very large shadow.”

That's my favorite conversation in the whole series.
But Nihilist isn't discussion about power, she's arguing if the girl is mature.

Genea:
yes of course, I so hate u

Me what did i do.

Nihilist:
She's not mature.
She's a child.

She lacks diplomacy and tact, and speaks too openlu because...well, she's a child.

Take her decision to back Jon Snow from the onset, for example. That was a very daft and tactically naive decision. All the other Lords of the north who could see the play knew that Jon Snow did not have the men and political goodwill to take on Ramsay...and they were right to abstain.

The vast majority of Snow's men were butchered.I wonder how many of the Mormonts survived that battle. If not for the Knights of the Vale, which that kid did not know about when risking her innocent men's lives, Jon snow and his men would be dead...and the Mormonts would have a target painted on their backsides.

The only reason her men listen to her is out of an obligation to maintain the servant -lord/lady relationship. I'm just baffled as to why.

You're technically saying that ser Davos Seaworth lacks diplomacy

The maim reason she joined was because ser Davos convinced her about the real war.
The other houses were not informed about them WW.
But you heard the so called lords confessing their wrong doings
Anyway, the mormont had targets on their heads for refusing the Bolton's rule.

Whenever you take a decision you're either doing something wise or something foolish, we can only know when you win or fail.

SirWere:
BTW : Jon snow recomuppance resembles that of Robb.....






And did I forget to mention Cersei is a BADASS

RECOMUPPENCE? is that the kind of things you say when your WAIT begins?

Nihilist:
How is it that nobody has backhanded that Lyanna whenever she opens her mouth?

I mean, these are grown folk chatting grown folk chit. Should that tiny girl be piping up at the table simply because she's of noble birth?

I would have given her a feeding bottle and a barbie doll, and chased her away to go and play with her mates...

Not because she's a noble born but because she is mature at such a young age. even in real life there are people like that.
maturity doesn't always come with age.

Genea:
WTF, can't wait to see wat winter brings btw kahleesi wud goddam be disappointed, if cerci cud pull off a stunt as dah den kahleesi shud beware, its one to have the numbers, its another to have the brain....besides the lannisters have never lost a battle

Cersei, brains? LOL.

She's a certified weyrey.

StepTwo:
He is a squire, just like Podderick

And everybody Want to hit a furkhing squire.

Vanquay16:
Nigerian by Heritage, spent all my life except first 8 years in the States...Young Nigerians are alright and no, I don't act like Nigerians, I can't hate myself.

You're being violent with your thought.

Vanquay16:
I hate Nigerians above 30 years especially those living in Texas and Maryland...They have big egos and small Common sense...She must be one.

You're a Nigerian and someday you'll grow above 30, it'll be thrilling to watch you hate yourself.

b

hahaha

UjSizzle:
Boko the only person I've crushed on is Jon Snow. But that's the past Ramsay is my new boo forever

YIMU. happy boo-ing. lol.
How bout the E-books is asked for.

UjSizzle:
**If you want to read the books lemme know and I'll mail you all five of them (note it isn't even complete yet, but there have been some deviation from the books. Still makes for a compelling read despite the TV adaptation.)

can this offer be extended to me, please.

UjSizzle:
While dem boys are arguing over battle strategies, I'm just going to sit here and salivate over this meaty hunk of a man now that Ramsay is dead


Goodbye Kit Harrington
Hello Iwan Rheon-- my new Man Crush Everyday

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you just dey crush all the GOT guy one by one.



Who will be her next CRUSH?
PREDICT AND WIN A BRAND NEW HONDA ACCORD.

shadrach77:
Why do people call his wife queen? She is a king's wife not a queen. She is not in control of any domain

She controls the King's domain.

so....

MadCow1:
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Why is Ngige wearing Dark Sunglasses's inside a room?

he is suffering from room temperature blindness.

vedaxcool:
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You should desist from spreading lies and slander during fasting.

Yes, until after fasting.

FriendChoice:
A very clear correlation.
He mustn't be a Muslim before he is referred to as terrorist.

Who is a terrorist?

1. A person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.

2. A person who use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

3. Someone who uses violence, mayhem, and destruction — or the threat of those things — to coerce people or countries into taking a certain action is a terrorist. A terrorist may be motivated by religious fervor, politics, or just plain old-fashioned greed.

Then all our police and military are terrorists.

I agree!

Nihilist:
Euron Greyjoy has no clout. He has nothing to offer(as per the show).

how did you come to that conclusion?

Did anyone noticed that Jon's direwolf was absent for the battle? They have resolved not to kill him me think.

UjSizzle:
It's the book. But I don't think it was for vengeance though. I don't even recall sef, but I remember reading that Jon left Castle Black and had to be convinced to come back.

Well, I didn't read the books, and here we discuss the TV series not the book.

Now who will be the one to replace Ramsey as the cruelest person on GOT Euron Grayjoy perhaps.

Unfathomable:
Hey, Mr 21...don't talk smack with me, im no mate of yours. Make your point and move on, stop running round the thread like a headless chicken forcing your ideas on people.. what's that 'horse poo' rubbish talk about? Trust me, I've been on this thread long before you crawled out from wherever. Be civil

SORRY! was just trying to sound like a GOT character didn't meant to annoy.

but with your assertion that Jon escaped castle black, to go and avenge Ned Stark's death.
Everybody here will agree with me that you don't know what you're watching.

damibravo:
He had a plan....

He has lesser men...

The plan was to be on the defensive not carry yansh out like he later did

He brought the war to them at winterfell and plans to be defensive, does that sounds smart to you? does that sounds like a plan?

damibravo:
Jon Snow had plan.... But the plan got thwarted immediately he rode to safe his dumb step brother....
He even tried to get a word across but wasn't possible.
Sansa knew Ramsay was gonna use there dumb brother but zerod her mind on them saving him...

Dude , he did'nt have plans didn't you see how Ramsey hijack his life and led him to hell. Ramsey,, that what we call a plan.

Unfathomable:
Naaah..she was only warning him that Ramsey was a trickster.., someone who lures people into his trap but as usual.. Jon never listened. The one who used Jon here was Ramsey..he knew a provocation would throw Jon off balance, it sure did and Jon fell right into Ramsey's trap. Thank goodness for Ser Davos who ordered the night's watch to follow their commander, Jon would have been dead meat by now...at least they kept him alive when he had already lost hope

omo where did you start watching from, which night watch are you talking bout?

Sansa was the one who persued him to go to war.

She used him Ramsey used him.

Unfathomable:
Naaah..she was only warning him that Ramsey was a trickster.., someone who lures people into his trap but as usual.. Jon never listened. The one who used Jon here was Ramsey..he knew a provocation would throw Jon off balance, it sure did and Jon fell right into Ramsey's trap. Thank goodness for Ser Davos who ordered the night's watch to follow their commander, Jon would have been dead meat by now...at least they kept him alive when he had already lost hope

omo where did you start watching from, which night watch are you talking bout?

Sansa was the one who persued him to go to war.

MaziOmenuko:
Nah, everyone had a weapon for the war, he had...what? Nothing! Imagine what a log of Nepa Electric pole would have done to those formations that surrounded them? He would have won the war for them. The writers just worked towards a certain angle.

And Rickon? C'mon! When he got to midway, I was just saying to myself, stop running lad, stop running and face Ramy's direction, watch the arrows and dodge them, Jon is coming behind you! But dude kept running like a mad dog.

And Ramsey shooting wun's eye when he had Snow's head at arm's length? Wun was already dead meat, they really portrayed Ramsey as whimp, that's not the Ramsey I knew.

yeah we on the same plane bro.

And you see Jon lacks tactical skills, he was outsmate by Ramsey, who we thought was just a mad dog with no cunning. Imagine if it were'nt for the vale knight.

I give it to Ramsey. he is a tactical genius. he does'nt just hit, he will hit where it hurt the most. I will miss him.

djlaqua91:
Sansa is either stupid or pure evil

Withheld vital info. from your brother which led to thousands of deaths of loyal men.
With the knowledge that the knights of the Vale were available if needed, Jon Snow would have planned better. Even if it leads to a siege on winterfell the Giant would have turned the odds to their favour.
Many times she was crying, "we need more men". Yet she refused to open her mouth and tell Ser Davos and co.
Whether Little-Finger could be trusted is a different matter. They needed men badly.

Although we viewers all knew Rickon was as good as dead, In Episode 4 Sansa was crying that we have to save Rickon, we have to save our brother, then next thing she's saying he's as good as dead ( poor writing from the writers IMO) without showing us how she transitioned to that reasoning.

Just like her mother her reasoning will damage that House

Kudos to her, she saved them in the end but massive Stark casualties could have been avoided.
House Stark is back, but Jon better watch out. That Sansa can kill him anyday I swear. #TeamWhiteWalkers

I think she was trying to use Rickon as leverage to persued Jon on the need to fight the boltons and get her revenge. She is trying to.claim boss, in the war counsel everybody was helping with their quotas and she stood there waiting to be asked.first. she is stupid.

Seun:
The Blackfish is a regular human being too, yet he was smart enough not to surrender his castle when his nephew's life was threatened. Sansa is a regular human being too, yet she was smart enough to understand that Rickon was already dead. Jon has already died once for naively doing what he thought was right without considering the risks, so he should have learned his lesson by now. When will he know something?

I don't blame him for trying to save Rickon. after Rickon was shot and the horsemen were gainning on him if he turn to run back it would demoralise his force and leads to a mass retreat.

unless you're saying he shouldn't have attemped saving Rickon in the first place which is a hard thing to do considering how close they were unlike The Blackfish and Edmure.

eniolaamoda:
I dont know if i am sick or something I am d type that frowns on gender equality I always love the part when ramsey reminds sansa of how they fuc.ked
I always wanted to see d look on snows face knowing ramsey fuc,ked his sister
I always wanted ramsey to say it plainly like "i missed fu,cking u"
Asin i always derive pleasure wen a guy is always above a woman
I swear i dont know if i am sick or need medics
That as always been how i feel
Help me guys
I need help

And I thought Ramsey was dead.

siempere:
And about Wun Wun..... I would say.... Some Heros don't just hold days.... they break through dem..... he was d real MVP....
...PS.... why didn't D& make him wield a tree like he used to.... he was practically weaponless apart from his bulk.... dat is stupid if u ask me.... he would have cut thru that Bolton's roman wall....with a single strike...

The bigger a man the stupider he's likely to be.

But Rickon no try at all. he was beheaving like an slowpoke.