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Arrewa:
Didn't wike himself bootlick Atiku who is a northerner in the past presidential election??

mumu, you just rush to type without brains, even a child in the womb knows tambuwal is wikes wingman till tomorrow

ibibiogrl:
I never said nsibidi has nothing to do with Akwa Ibom, offcause those that practice Ekpe like Oron & some Uruan will use nsibidi. If your mom is Efik and your father has plantations in Akampa Ejagham, How are U then Ibibio
Seems you're completely raised in Cross River state cultures and traditions which is what I guessed initially, meaning U dont know much about typical AKS traditions. How can u then tell me a 100% ibibio about my culture.

You cant even read and comprehend, I said I have an IBIBIO father, who has his plantations in ekoi land, read and comprehend.

pazienza:
Interesting discussions here.

So if I'm following the discussion. Ibibiogirl is saying that Ekpo belongs to Ibibios why Ekpe belongs to Efiks.
So how come many Igbo groups in Abia practice both Ekpe and Ekpo same time.
Looks like they borrowed from Efik and Ibibios at same time. But you have Igbo communities like Ndoki who share no land boundaries with Cross River, practicing Ekpe, even though they only share boundaries with Ibibios and Annangs.
I have always thought they copied the Ekpe from their Akwa Ibom neighbours, but if it turns true that akwa ibom don't practice Ekpe, except for Oron, then it opens up a whole lots of unanswered questions.

She's mixing things up, outside oron different ibibio and Annang clans play ekpe but in very small numbers compared to the ekpo in Akwa Ibom.

ibibiogrl:
No wonder you don't know the difference & especially that Ibibios Do Not practice Ekpe or same tradition and culture as Efik, except U are Oron, because U grew up in Calabar. I am not learning from wikipedia, I only use wikipedia as a basic summary. I grew up in Calabar and Abak, how do U think I learn how to speak Efik and Annang fluently If you Read this thread U will understand that I have deep knowledge and also research what am talking about from the elders, infact the indigenes of Efik, Oron & Annang actually came to back me up and congratulated me on finally explaining their cultures in details READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo


Alright https://www.britannica.com/topic/ http://esopefik.tripod.com/efiktradition.html

Lol you like doing like u know it all. Are you still insisting Akwa Ibom has nothing to do with nsibidi? You have vast knowledge of our culture but you simply can't know it all my dear. I'm ibibio with an Efik mother, my father has plantations in akampa which is ekoi/ejagahm territory and so I believe I'm more in a better position to tell you this one.

Dreason:
even igbo's used nsidibe
it a secret sign language only thoes in it cult understand

Umm, okay?

ibibiogrl:
Ejagham has got nothing to do with Ibibio They are partly Cameroonians, same as Efiks. Also Ibibios Do Not Practice Ekpe (Uruan is the only 1LGA in Akwa Ibom State made up of Ibibios that practice Ekpe, because they hosted Efiks for some Centuries and adopted a lot of Efik tradition & cultures) Oronation made up of 5LGA are the only legit ethnic group in AKS who practice Ekpe, and all other tradition and cultures practice by Efik and Ejaghams etc, also they all migrated through Cameroon. There is Nothing like Efik/Ibibio language There is Efik, Ibibio, Oron languages, just like there are Italian, Spanish, French etc.. Ejagham language is semi-bantoid and has no similiarity to those other languages.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagham_language
If any Ejagham speaks Ibibio might be due to the large population of Ibibios living in CRS, that those Ejagham learn from.


I don't Have the Time to Repeat lessons and Explanation that was already given 9years ago This is not same as Igbo/Ikwerre denial war.
Despite the different dialects of same languages, there's not much differences in beliefs, tradition & cultures of Igbo and Yoruba groups as compared to Efiks, Ibibios & Annangs. This was confirmed by the Yorubas and Igbos themselves when someone actually asked these questions, instead of Ignorantly stating bogus personal opinions as Fact You can Read and argue with those posters that its not so, but the actually backup their claims with articles of history. READ DETAILS HERE: https://www.nairaland.com/609355/whats-major-differance-between-igbo

Lol. So you that is far away where ever you are knows better than me that is here in Cross river because you have access to Wikipedia. I don't have energy to argue, the majority will have their way and the minority will have their say at the end of the day.

okeyglm:
we have more than 25 local government Area in your so called south south . with two capital cities. which other ethnic group have such?

SO CALLED SOUTH SOUTH, you refuse to recognize us a separate entity but yet you want to gum body when shouting Biafra or marginalization, I don't blame u, can you mention this phantom 25 LGA you speak of?

Ojiofor:
Gowon did not create Midwest region rather it came through referendum during the first republic,the people decided in a referendum to have their own separate region from western region while Igbo territories was divided into states without due consultations and was done in way it will not favour us by splitting many communities into non Igbo states.You get it now?

yes you've spoken better

otuekong1:
Akpabio will destroy APC
He is arrogant
He is corrupt
He is a result getter

Cheif Don Etebiet would be best

Conner44:
Yes oh. As imo state fell into the grasp of APC the Fulani marauders must also tag along.

Now is the time for the okigwe village youths to demonstrate how to chase bandits out of their forests lol

Ogbunigwe my foot

Worst is that they have an APC govenor, if he does anyhow his northern master's in the Party will cut him to size

Sammy07:
You're making sense...
And moreover
It's highly possible the minorities languages/cultures to go into extinction..

exactly bro

Conner44:
I didn’t mean to seem insulting but it looks like this country needs to be separated then there’s no need living together with people who you’d rather not share a same geographical location with right?

Lol relax bro, reason with me. The Igbo, hausa fulani and the Yoruba are really big group's, who Excel in what they do, now putting minorities in regions with them isn't good as they will not even be able to compete with them, even in nature there's what we call natural selection or survival of the fittest, so you need to place the minorities where they will be able to compete and have a sense of belonging, it's not dislike or hate, u get me now? It's like when three cheetahs want to race, u bring dog,wolf, jaguar etc to come and race with them, e no pure.

Conner44:
It’s been like that for how long? And why have you accepted it when you know it’s not making any iota of sense? If a foreigner sees this map and the way it’s divided I’m sure there will be lots of questions. A good way to ‘look silly’ is to claim that it’s been like that for long and you’ve settled for it as being normal.

If you look closely with an open mind you’d find there’s something inherently wrong about this map

Lol. Keep it calm and constructive bro no insult. I know it looks absurd, but what's the point of changing the names of the regions or redrawing borderlines, for one we here in the SS wouldn't want to have an old eastern region again, many minority groups in the North would also not want to be grouped with the core North anymore, outside going back to the old nothern region, Eastern region and Western region which won't be acceptable, what do u suggest should be done?

Conner44:
I’m bringing it here so you all can justify it. I am as confused as an albino goat on this topic.

If you feel it’s right then give reasons, that’s why I’m asking

Well, it has been like that for awhile and I think most of us have come to live with it,if there's any change I think should be made is the creation of one more state for the SE in the spirit of equity, and then decentralization of power from Abuja so let regions take full control of what they have and contribute to the center instead of the center handing out Money at the end of the month, doesn't encourage competition, that's all. I'm from akwa Ibom btw

okeyglm:
l
agbo is igbo. liyel is an agbo man. go and die

It's your father and his extended relations that will die, even your mother's side will not escape death, idiot, you think you have a monopoly of throwing away constructive arguments and then result to insulting people, fool. Unam ikod mkpo. Come to ABI and call them Igbo then if u survive I'll take u serious, anything outside that is balderdash, in a state of 18 LGA you're managing to lie and claim one, majority in the SS my foot

okeyglm:
ur foolishness is legendary. shut up . your not from anywhere in cross river
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abi,_Cross_River

Must you be so stupid, I said I live in calabar. It's not your fault, what makes you different from the Fulani, while they claim and annex land by blood she'd, u carry out your own by insulting people while spreading lies and propaganda. I dare you to come to calabar and claim imoke is an Igbo man, if you last 24hours without being picked up by the police I will give you 10k .

gidgiddy:
What you have to remember is that in reality, the SE, SS and SW do not exist. The constitution does not recognize anywhere called SW, SS or SE. These were just names that Abacha conjured from thin air to represent a group of states based on locality for economic planning

It just makes it easier to refer to a group of states in a particular area by strange name

Abacha? I thought it was an Igbo man that came up with them. Let me check

Nakedtruths:
You be mumu

I wasn't talking to you mr man. Face your front unless you're hungry to be banned.

Conner44:
How come? I mean, how was it possible that we divided the south into SW, SS & SE just like that when the state lines and position on the map geographically states otherwise?

Just see the picture below and ask yourself how come the Green Zone is in the EAST while the pink zone is the SOUTH SOUTH? I mean, isn’t it crazy

Who did ya this thing?

So tell us, what do you feel should have been the correct thing and how would that have made the well-being of the aforementioned regions better?

okeyglm:
in All the state you mentioned we have a alot of indigenous igbo group. liyel is one example of them.

Lol you're a clown, unfortunately for you I live in calabar, liyel is from abi in central Cross river, they are very different from igbos, call an abi man Igbo and you'll get your head on the ground, stop listening to hear say, yes there are igboid groups in the SS, outside Delta and rivers other SS States just have some few Igbo villages included that can't even produce a counselor talkless of LGA chairman, so I'm challenging your rumored assertion that igboid groups are the largest, please be guided

okeyglm:
they don't know igboid group are largest in there so called Niger delta is

since 1999
Cross River
Bayelsa
Akwa Ibom
Edo. Are all yet to have "IGBOID" govenors or deputy govenors or any influential office or position in those state, that's 4/6 of the SS, so where is this largest group u speak of? Stop reasoning like an aboki.

Ojiofor:
My brother what do you expect when there was no Igboman present to represent Igbo nation interest during state creation and moreover,state creation was an anti Igbo policy from Gowon led military government.

Funny, I don't see Yorubas complaining that gowon was anti Yoruba when he gave Edo and Delta Midwest regions, why would you now say he is anti Igbo by listening to the minorities and giving them old Rivers State and old cross river State, the only argument you can have there is that some Igbo villages were carved out of the South East without due consultation of those people, unless you're saying it's anti Igbo because he separated the ibibios,ijaws,efiks,annangs,ogonis etc from you guys to give them a sense of representation, and this state creation was done before ojukwu even declared Biafra.

govomotors:
Now I know who are my brothers from the same BRACED Republic.

Others have been forceful including us in their republic.

Blackking98 thanks for publishing the BRACED republic map.

you're welcome

NaijaOlosho:
The governors are currently meeting in Asaba to discuss how to further curb insecurity across the oil-rich region.

Governors of Nigeria’s Niger Delta region on Thursday in Asaba, Delta State, announced that they would set up their own security outfit.

The governors are currently meeting in Asaba to discuss how to further curb insecurity across the oil-rich region.

The idea follows the creation of a regional security network known as Amotekun by governors of the six South-West states.


>>> http://saharareporters.com/2020/03/05/breaking-south-south-governors-establish-regional-security-outfit

use this pic instead, last I checked imo , abia and info aren't in my region

mildflame:
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I am most impress with you interest in this but by uing sentences, dance patterns and the above does has no bearing in concluding that this group aren't of same ancestry
The English we speak and which is the official language in England varies from region to region
What is spoken in London, Manchester, Newcastle has it own accent, dialect and pronunciation, there are three distinct English which are southern, Midland and northern but these are all English
Even the dance pattern, food and music has it regional enclaves. Down here the Hausa spoken in sokoto, kano and Adamawa can be easily distinguished by Hausa's speakers yet same Hausa
The youruba spoken in badagry won't be understood by an Ikeja brought up Yoruba and the Yoruba spoken in ondo, okitipupa, shaki I bet u can't be understood by this individual if you don't speak the central youruba
Coming down home there is nothing different from what is spoken in Uruan, ITU that won't be comprehended in the entire calabar. The differences in Ibibio, efik and anang is just like southern, midland and northern EngareNowhichh are domicile in those regions. The accent, dialect and pronunciation doesn't make any of them different what brought this was the arrival of the Europeans and fortunately for any chief back especially those from the riverine area they ceased the opportunity and promoted themselves and their territory
While the obong who I will tell you can be traced to Uruan ancestry cannot be any further higher than the chiefs then Uruan gained favors from the Europeans and consolidated his dominance, that can't be said of the other chiefs. You can't tell me the Efiks own calabar, the Quas and Efuts have the core inner land while the Efiks dominate the riverine areas
Now the ibibios are using the oil wealth as Europeans to gain dominance but forget the Ghana fables of anang being from Ghana or any group claiming to above the other
Ibibio,(ekid, ibeno)efik Anang oron and ekoi( ejahgham) are of the same stock and origin

you are correct, I off my hat for u.

Nowenuse:
Pls I have a question for you and Ibibiogrl.

Are Ejagham people also considered as Atam too? Considering the fact that also have a large population in Cross River south?

Is it also true that Ejagham has the largest population in Cross River State?

Is it also true that Ejagham is related to Efik/Ibibio in language and culture?

yes they are similar, they are the originators of the nsibidi that we Akwa ibomites/efiks used, they also play ekpe,bear the same names with the efiks to a certain point but we do not understand their language, atleast 65% of akampa people speak ibibio/Efik as their second language, infact during my 100lvl, our faculty president spoke ibibio most times until I discovered he was actually from akampa, all my coursemates from akampa spoke Efik/ibibio fluently, but the ejagahms in etung and ikom aren't as close to us like their brothers in akampa and always tend to side with the atam people. So it's complicated

AmuDimpka:
Why the deep animosities and hate...we must encourage unity now we are in dangerous times

Do you mind that guy, he is speaking based on what he has noticed on nairaland imagine, meanwhile I'm speaking about lawmakers who were elected my hundreds of thousands of people to speak their mind, do you now realize that this guy is HATE personified

AmuDimpka:
Nice explanation

I speak with facts and calculated points and not emotionally, if I'm wrong I acknowledge it and we move on, unfortunately most cross riverians on this topic choose to argue with emotions and throw insults in the face of a superior argument.Beachside, until you stop your insults, derogatory comments and being an agent of discord, all your derogatory mentions will be be tracked down and reported, only those that are constructive arguments will be left, those who know me on this thread will tell you I don't joke with my people, I promise to make life miserable for you until you stop being an ethnic war monger and come up with constructive arguments .if you loved us as much as you claim you won't be saying those things you say, anyway we don't need your love, development,ideas or what ever you contribute, we only need God. You say Akwa ibomites are wicked, domineering and aggressive, we only do that when we have been pushed to the wall, I will show you exactly how wicked we can be if we choose to, be guided, have a good day

AmuDimpka:
why ���

Same reasons northerners fear igbos I guess. During the old cross river before we were separated, we were in charge due to our numbers and our hustling boisterous attitude, they produced only one govenor during that time, while we produced several military and civilian govenors during that period, we excelled and they felt threatened and begged the head of State then to separate the states, leaving the efiks alone without covering from their Akwa Ibom brothers so they can control everything, unfortunately for them we still influence proceedings in the state to a certain point coupled with the fact that they lost oil Wells to us, our oil Wells o, the only place they had oil was at bakassi which Cameroon annexed. By the way ignore that beachside fool, Akwa Ibom and efiks with ekois by extension are United in the majority save for a few fools who want us divided, I posted how the lawmakers in CRS house of assembly voted about the Akwa Ibom woman up to three times, voting pattern showed the Efik and akampa lawmakers voted in her favour, brother isn't that enough to show that blood is thicker than water, beachside saw it and refused to reply, he is an agent of division, the mods should ban that account because where ever he goes he mongers hate between Akwa ibomites and Cross riverians. This woman's case aside ayades government has � accomodating to Akwa ibomites, we have about 3 Akwa ibomites as commissioners in CRS and many serving as special adviser's or other elective and government position. Beachside is an agent of hate. Below is the result bro, u can get someone who is conversant with CRS to confirm if what I'm saying is correct

AmuDimpka:
Awesome ....you captured it....and it's true! You just said the truth

Plain truth. Most central and northern cross riverians despise us for very weird reasons

Beachside:
What can you say about ibibiogrl comment that Efik and ibibio are not one ?
What can you say about the comments on the first and second page of this thread and on culture section thread claiming there's no such thing as Akwacross or efik/ibibio?

See this criminal. I have said more than enough on that, you refused to reply because I was saying the truth with hard evidence. Go to your village and propose unity or what ever u like. Akwa Ibom and Cross river don't need your development plans or preaching or what ever crap that comes from u, what ever issues we have we will settle it be it by dialogue or by conflict that's our choice to make and not yours so stay in your lane, several Akwa ibomites and Cross riverians on this topic have rejected u and taken u to the cleaners, but you don't have shame and keep trying to be relevant. Fool