₦airaland Forum

babyfaceafrica:
hmmm...but its expensive to live in at least in SE...houses and food there no be beans

I agree my brother, but nna, with the agricultural projects in the East, in some few years we will be able to supply all our food wants and even export to other regions. But IMO state seems to be the only state in the east with out an agricultural plan.
Everything abagworo post about IMO makes me shake my head and wonder where my lovely state is heading to.

Okoroawusa need to be evicted from imo state

babyfaceafrica:
Nice...I think Enugu is better...don't know of others

Not just better but the best. amongst the old regional capitals, Enugu is the only capital that followed the master plan. after Abuja, enugu is the second best planned city in Nigeria. Enugu was planned from scratch during the coal boom in the 1900s. Correct me if I'm wrong about the date.

Sctests:
Southern Nigeria will be another slave camp controlled by fulanis with yoruba muslims as their proxies.

That's why Kanu wants a country where every tribe have been living peacefully for thousands of years and you know the country I am talking about.

Yes I know the country but then define regionalism, maybe after that you can feed me with something better than this Fulani conspiracy story.

Sctests:
These guy your utopian southern nigeria is a farce. The East will never form an alliance with traitors under any guise of 'reunification sham'. Why go back to your vomit? Ok One pertinent question- Where will kwara belong? in the north or in the south that must have paid with Biafran blood to stay away from the fulani?
Use your brain, this man?

I am using my brain bros, if I may ask, is everything about life political? These same yorubas you talk about have never fought the igbos to the extent of shedding blood, so why will I be afraid of them? Why won't I unite with them?

I also agree that southern Nigeria republic is a farce, but the yorubas are not our enemies! They are not!!! you need to drop the hate abeg.

Nairaland is filled with bigots, I can as well open a thread about Ibadan and ekiti, some will respond reasonably, while others will rain abuses on me..

We are all the same, igbos and yorubas have the same amount of bigots.

Sctests:
You will ask for the Igbo and other Easterners to agitate and start dying for a Southern nigeria republic so that yoruba especially the muslims who prefer hausas will start calling them landgrabers? are you sane at all?

If the Yoruba want southern nigeria they should should be the one to agitate for it. The East won't be too eager to bleed for Yorubas who are comfortable with fulani domination.

Bro I don't knw what else to say but since we all suspect each other, then I think southern Nigeria republic is a pipe dream but the truth remains, if she was, she will be the envy of Nations.. Think about it

chiefobdk:
shut up and listen to people who 've been here since2007 and kno the politics of nairaland

I should shut up? Do you want us to end up abusing ourselves, by the way in real life I could employ you so you should be the one to shut the hell up.

Animal!

Hagmond:
Bros i dont want to have any of this
all this rhetorics of yoruba jealousy is stale take a cue from the op
and like i said i dont support southern nigeria republic
ciao

Brother forget about him, you know the way nairaland is.
I'm real life igbos and yorubas have been best of friends and allies. So I don't think the view of one person is the view of millions of igbos.

new2020:
Southern Nigeria is existentially impossible. Yoruba will spoil it with envy! The problem with Nigeria today is yoruba envy of Igbo...that's it! Whites, colonial masters have said this many times that...THE IGBOS ARE A SUPERIOR RACE! Other tribes in Nigeria have acknowledged the superiority of the Igbos except one that knows deep in their heart that Igbos are superior but out of envy continue to scuttle Igbo progress which indirectly is affecting the progress of Nigeria.

Dr. Thomas Sowell, an American philosopher in his book acknowledged highly gifted races in the world...he mentioned Jews, Germans, Japanese and Igbos. These races as observed even without formal education have innate gift and potential to build and manufacture things. Doesn't mean they are intelligent than others...no, simply means they have something extra.

Nope I disagree with the envy part, if we all had regionalism , who will envy who, do you think the igbos will have a say in the Yoruba region , No! Instead there will be competition because we all want to be better than each other and that's what we call healthy competition. We all need each other.

Pls quit the hatred for the yorubas, it doesn't stop them from progressing.

MIPNIG:
Beef... It is in the gene

Bro pls quit the hate, don't you get tired of it!

explorer250:
bro, there is everything wrong with it. Have you ever seen Yoruba or hausas comparing themselves in so doing exposing their deficiencies? Do you even realise that igboland is one and that States are mere artificial creations introduced by federal government? what is the difference between IMO and Enugu? don't you know that there is no difference just that the state names but THE PEOPLE ARE THESAME

Yes but who brought about state creation?, is it not the north? The yorubas have always been the Allies of the igbos but the north choose to incite one against the other.

Bro pls quit the hate, we all need each other.

Hagmond:
I wont blame the north i would rather blame the british would leave behind a trail of woes in every country they ever colonise
we not generally compatible and this events has done damages already which may never be redeemable
nnamdi kanu and other freedom fighters should have been able to the magic but alas they always get alot of things wrong
a revolution is truly needed take niger delta for instance freedom fighters forgot their people began swimming in the sea of corruption
if wreally want to salvage what is left before everything goes to the dogs we youth must forget all this selfish old men and form an alliance start a raging revolution
but again who wants to dare and at this point that is why i respect kanu even though the way he went about it is not too cool

Exactly! I agree with all that you have said but I feel that the Southerners will at the end of the day unify after the biafrans must have gained Independence because we have lived together for so long that it's hard to let each other go, almost all the process made in Nigeria has the imprint of the South, infact 99%

If you read my response to ibedun, you will agree with me that that's the only way a united southern republic will be achieved.

ibedun:
The Japanese and Koreans can beat their chest all day long saying they are smart and intelligent, why? The proof is their country.

Nigerians are neither smart nor intelligent, why? Just look at our country and all national institutions. We are wretched, underdeveloped, terrible culture and des eased and poor.

As for Igboland, that is another story all together. Smart we ain't.

Yes but when you bring the issue of the quota system, then you will know that southern Nigeria have been drawn back by the north. Although corruption contributes to our problem but then who brought about corruption in the Nigerian system, the Northerners.

We need a southern Nigeria republic. Let's fight for it. It should be the hope of all Southerners but I'm afraid that the Northerners will fight against it with the last drop of blood. The only way I see a southern Nigeria achieved is after the biafrans must have gained Independence then talks about unification of the former southern Nigeria might crop up. But for now if there is no collective will, you will agree with me that it is only a dream.

explorer250:
I am ashamed of my eastern brothers who fell for this. have you guys ever seen Yorubas comparing there states? and you guys are here proudly exposing the faults of igboland. tufiakwa!

Bro I don't see any problem with wat the OP has posted, we all must drop the hate for once.

Pls let the discussion continue abeg

alsina:
I have lived in both states, ebonyi is doing far better in terms of road construction, electric supply, mobile network, and plans for water supply.....in abia they r far better in economy, human empowerment, and singing for any one who is the governor

In the case of road construction, ebonyi has a hilly landscape comparable to that of the north, and we all knw that water degrades roads. Ebonyi is very lucky to have the best landscape in the East seconded by enugu

koladebrainiac:
THE POSTER IS NOT SMART AT ALL

I started a topic, Hagmond who seem to be Yoruba choose the intelligent way to discuss, and here you are spewing trash as usual. I wonder who is the foolish one between the three of us.

I have not been to either state but I think ebonyi is neater

Hagmond:
Im not saying ibos arent intelligent hell no what am trying to say is that intelligence is randomly distributed,nigeria as a state is in a quagmire and its holding most of us down
as to your references to the north as a problem,the north issue is about idealogies do you they are even first educated than most of us down south before western education came on the scene,arabs even contributed alot to mathematics and medicine during the medievial period

Hagmond I know you will agree with me that if we had a southern Nigeria republic, she will be the envy of Nations in the world.

We can't continue to live like this.. I curse the day we were almagamated!

Hagmond:
Im not saying ibos arent intelligent hell no what am trying to say is that intelligence is randomly distributed,nigeria as a state is in a quagmire and its holding most of us down
as to your references to the north as a problem,the north issue is about idealogies do you they are even first educated than most of us down south before western education came on the scene,arabs even contributed alot to mathematics and medicine during the medievial period

Yes I admit but of what benefit have the "first education" been on the Nigerian space?

Western education is the in thing now, the Southerners have long adjusted to it so I don't think their so called first education have any use in our present time.

Hagmond:
There is more to intelligence than test score for example albert einstein was not even considered for admission at a particular point by tertiary institutions
ibos have been doing well in waec and that is commendable.

But do you also agree that the igbos are blessed intellectually!

Hagmond:
Im not feigning ignorance battles in wars are won due to various reasons,you cant use victory in war to justify intelligence nations like vietnam and afghanistan dealt with world powers in war ie usa and russia respectively
iq scores are determined by various factors like parental status,finance,background,etc the idea that iq is hereditary is currently not acceptable by leading scientists
i prefer discussion,links irritate me

Sorry about the irritation, the comment section of the unz discussion, one reader wrote and I quote:

"Fascinating. Real tragedy that the Igbo Biafran secession failed so badly…read some accounts and was always impressed by the degree of ingenuity on display among the Igbos. The rest of Nigeria really seems to drag them down.

I’d bet on the Tutsis as another of the more intelligent groups."

There are lots of people who know/read about the biafran war, and the all agreed that the igbos are truly gifted intellectually.

If you don't agree with me on that, well, others agree!

[quote]Lynn’s work has been discredited and debunked numerous times, as he makes up data, and cherry picks results – so no point quoting him!

I agree with Drake above, there is massive selection for elite students from West Africa, to come to US colleges – so they are not representative of anything African. Some groups like the Ibo/Igbo of South Eastern Nigeria were rated as superior intellectually by the British, so there is no reason to believe they wouldn’t be similar today. Similar claims were made for the Tutsi of Rwanda[ /quote]

If the British rated the igbos as superior intellectually, if also the unz debunked the white IQ claim using the igbos. Then there is more to it than the eye sees.

Igbos are truly blessed, even the biased mind knows it.

Hagmond:
In what ways did the civil war support your claims and about IQ the concept of iq is very vague most of the intelligent scientists and artists in the world are not even among the highest scores

Please don't feign ignorance. Read about the ingenuity of the igbos in the biafran civil war and also here's the link to the unz IQ discussion

http://www.unz.com/article/the-iq-gap-is-no-longer-a-black-and-white-issue/

Hagmond:
How does a story of a youngman is the same for millions others

Yes it is, millions of igbos are just like that young chap!

The biafran war supports it, also igbos were used to rubbish the white claims of IQ.

Igbos are truly blessed!

Not all nigerians, when you talk about Nigeria, you talk about the South.

Take the South away from Nigeria, watch as she becomes the second Niger!

I don't know if Nigerians are the smartest people on earth but they sure are smart, Igbo folk in particular. To give an example; back in 1981 I was hiring staff in Warri. A young (17) Igbo fellow called Sam asked for a job. He was as short as me and very slim so not suitable for laboring work. He was totally full of beans so I hired him anyways to help me with line testing gear. Sam had had just four years of primary education. About a week in he asked me why I liked the small numbers on the test gear and did not like the big ones. So sitting there under a mangrove I explained voltage, current, Ohms law and the problem with contaminated connections. About an hour later Sam comes back with a drawing and a handful of batteries. He wanted to know whether there was a way to put the batteries in the geophones so as to push the signal through even with poor connections. I was gobsmacked. An hour after hearing of Ohm's law for the first time he'd dreamt up the concept of a pre-amplifier. I had an electronics workshop so I took Sam into it and started with the math and electronics. He lived in that lab. He went from Euclid to Leibniz in less than a month. Six weeks in he was using spectrum analysers to control inter-modulation between multiple radio transmitters. In the eleven months we worked/learnt together Sam got to about associate degree level. He set up an electronics store after.
Some damn smart folk in the Delta.
Pat

Written 16 Mar 2015

mandarin:
This discussion is somehow childish. I don't think there's any restriction on religion in Nigeria and its amazing someone can plan to shut somebody out because of what he/she is!
Jesus Christ my Lord love non Christians, He preached the Kingdom to them. How many people that Jesus healed in d Bible profess Christianity?
How many of d so called Igbo Christians have the spirit of God, the Holy spirit in them? When you tell lie in businesses, do rituals and engage in destructive enterprise and still go to church on Sunday what make u a Christian in that?
I have a respected boss from Borno state and had met Musa from Katsina both are epitome of good Christianity, no shady deals, no cheating others, they didn't even have to tell u they were Christians, you just see it in them and to many of u claiming Christ on ethnic ground, Christ isn't ethnocentric, He want to dwell in your heart not on your lips!

Get lost!

cheruv:
O nweghi Igbo o bu..

Nna iwe NE ewem..

E chetara Bi.afra.rep.ublic

E chetara willow NWA nnegi nwoke

PentiumPro:
The problem is that Hausas and Igbos have refused to go pass the civil war events, they just are finding it to live together in the same country.

We will never forget, that's why we need our freedom from this hell hole.

One Nigeria no be by force!

PentiumPro:
The only thing that need freedom is your mind.

I just don't know why Igbo women reason like Yoruba men sometimes, why can't you really reason like an Igbo woman that you are sometimes, eh