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How do we submit cv na?it's ndd

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Deep Soul:

^^Dis una loff, is it for real??
It is by no means the guy's fault that she cheated. That was just her being weak.
What she did couldnt possibly have been an indication (if that was the 1st time she cheated). Except, of course, her BF is psychic
I'm saying he probably has/had justifiable reasons eg Lack of finances, Mental unreadiness etc.
I hope you marry one of them. Or if you're already married, tell us, did your wife give it up on the first visit?
But most "tricks/hoes" eventually do turn to "wiveys". So, na who go marry them after you've had your share of the Global Cake??

NO I'm not married and double no I'm not marrying a "HOE" .
I believe in human weakness and can forgive that but I don't like confused. "Love a guy you just met 'cause he banged you senseless" = confused.

MRbrownJAY:

so are you saying that, in your world, relationships are SOLELY about good or bad s e x?!

NO, Good sex is based on good sex.
I think poster's options are quite clear

1)Maybe Marriage(Good Relationship).
2)Mind-Blowing Sex(Booty Call).

I actually like a girl who gives it up the first visit and poster should stop feeling guilty because like the great Stephen King said "Fun is fun and done is done".

My 2 bits.

First off, do you want to marry Old BF? if yes then jettison new BF.
Second in, did you have great sex? better than the Old BF? if yes then jettison Old BF.

@chukwudi44 you are really trying.

chukwudi44:

That Individual books of the bible had been in existence before the synod of hippo in 393 CE is not in doubt .The fact still remains that it was the RCC that decided what books should be in the bible.

Maybe if you don't know more than 18 gospels were in circulation contradicting themselves and some teaching very dangerous heresy.The marcionites,Valentinians and other gnostic sects has their own set of scriptures,it was the RCC approved scriptures that was given the name bible.Any other thing apart from that is not a bible.
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The is difference between the books used by the RCC and the protestants because the protestants criminally removed seven books from the bible in the nineteenth century.
The first King James bible was complete when it was first published until about 200 years later in the nineteenth century when the anglican church decided to do away with these seven books simply because the jews did not include them in their canon .

It is most noteworthy to note that the jewish council of Jamnia in 100 CE that decided the jewish canon also excluded the entire books of the new testament and rejected Jesus Christ.If you want tp comply with the jewish canon you can go ahead and reject the entire NT.

What the protestants use id the HYBRID canon i.e a combinatio of the jewish canon and the catholic NT which is hypocrisy of the first order.

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Like I said you are really trying and while your discourse about the relationship between RCC and what we have come to accept as the bible may be true and their work on it is praise-worthy. But the apocrypha was removed because they were not quoted from by any authoritative figure outside of them and their significance was seriously in question.

the protestants criminally removed seven books from the bible ?
No sir.

And I never called the RCC evil just that they render very questionable histories to suit their purposes e.g. creating a lineage of popes from Peter and have committed acts that make their claims as THE church worthless.

chukwudi44:
OL boy you re very funny indeed.You are actually waiting to see where they wrote chair in the bible.That term chair only denotes leadership .The words keys were actually used by Jesus in mattew 16:13-19 to decribe the authourity given to st Peter There it was clearly stated that the church was founded on the authourity of st Peter

You probably forgot that there is a physical chair called Saint Peter's chair and a host of other regalia(Fisherman's Ring) that was purportedly saint Peter's including relics and you should read through your earlier post with the early fathers quotation and realize that the Chair is PHYSICAL and while Jesus' charge to Peter is not in question, we ask, did Peter head a church? Yes in was recorded that he was a very important Christian leader after Christ's ascension headquartered in Jerusalem , did peter go to Rome? NO but Catholics had to 'bring' saint Peter to Rome as proof of their legitimacy and every document invented could not tell us anymore about this 25 years he spent in Rome outside of what we already know about him. It would have been interesting to know how Peter had handed over the keys to Linus.

chukwudi44:


Even the bible could not produce the pontificates of the entire kings who governed Isreal as well as the year they ruled.The year of their reign are only guessed from secular historical documents.

Even the creation of the bible by the RCC and the word bible has no biblical basis

The bible accounts of Israel's kings is a functional summary of their life and times as it relates to religious and spiritual issues. putting that in the same vein with RCC's pontificates is ridiculous and yet they know for a fact that Peter indeed lived for 25 years and was martyred in Rome. Come on dude.

Bukittes:

Sorry, this Bukky drives a blue car and does not have a hot backside. What a description for someone u profess u know! Too bad!!!!!!!

LOL, you both have a lot in common though, part 2's and the husband question. Just pray, keep your eyes open and date outside your usual social circle, trust me if you are as pretty, good and sound as you say you will snag someone before this year runs out(same advice goes to all the single searching ladies).

P.N. if you are looking for a HUSBAND, do not give nothing up until the wedding night.

I hear too many stories from ladies who tell me how the sex between them and 'Him' was so wonderful and mind-blowing it was alter-bound(irony), only for 'Him' to inform that why bother buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?.

Bukittes:

I don't know again o but do these things guarantee a woman getting married these days? Good character, Pretty in all aspect, sound education and all packaged well were prerequisite in those days for a lady to get a befitting husband. THese days, with all these yet plenty unmarried female. What is happening?
and don't tell me about the ratio of men to women because that doesn't count!!!!!!!!!!

Do I know you? anyway the Bukky I know drives a green car and has a hot ass.

chukwudi44:

Well it might interset you to know that the bible did not exist until the fourth century.It is this same catholic church whih you so despise that compiledthe bible late in the fourth century.

Even the authors of the entire gospels were not named in the bible,it was the same catholic apostolic tradition that gave us their authors through st Ireneaus.

Virtully every book in the bible was contested before the synod of hippo in 393CE and even today by diverse scholars,books like Hebrews,Jude,2nd peter,2nd and 3rd John,Revelation only narrowly made it to the bible.


The same "confused" church fathers gave us the bible.

The bible as we know it didn't exist for a long time but early Christians collected all known letters and books and read them amongst themselves to strengthen their faith and saying RCC that gave us the bible would be wrong. The individual books that make up the bible had been in distribution way 'fore RCC came about and the fact that there is a marked difference between the catholic and protestant versions proves that we didn't agree about what they allowed in.

chukwudi44:



Jesus Christ did.

Shortly before he ascended into heaven he handed his sheep to Peter to take care of them for him

John 21:15-17 (New International Version)

Jesus Reinstates Peter
15When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me more than these?"
"Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Feed my lambs."
16Again Jesus said, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me?"
He answered, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Take care of my sheep."

17 The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?"
Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you."

Jesus said, "Feed my sheep.




Several of the church fathers suffered matyrdom uner the roman empire,Vitually all the popes who lived before constantine were matyred.

Even some of those whooose quotes Ipasted likeCyprian,Clement,Ignatius,e.tc also suffered matyrdom in the hands of the roman epire,so your claims holds no water

Look at the scriptures you quoted, I didn't see episcopal chair anywhere, okay maybe that was a bit simplistic but what did Christ telling Peter to"Feed his flock" have to do with this statement from Optatus

"You cannot deny that you are aware that in the city of Rome the episcopal chair was given first to Peter; the chair in which Peter sat, the same who was head—that is why he is also called Cephas [‘Rock’]—of all the apostles; the one chair in which unity is maintained by all" (The Schism of the Donatists 2:2 [A.D. 367])."

Unless you know another scripture quote that has Rome and Chair in the same sentence then Optatus and those of his ilk were upholding a tradition that has no biblical basis. And please if there were popes before Constantine how is it that the RCC cannot state categorically their pontificates and here is a church that knows for a fact that Peter spent the last 25 years of his life in Rome.

A pity I came late to this one.

bawomolo:

yes am atheist, now pls stay on topic.

So I guess we would be sticking with verifiable history and reasonable deductions then.

But it is difficult to picture all the Jewish communities in Egypt willing to abandon the country for an uncertain future

The fact that Jews did exactly that not so long ago proves that not only would they abandon a country for an uncertain future they would fight for that future too.

Contesting the history of a people is always an exercise in futility, in fact saying it was copied/plagiarized from some previously established culture is ALWAYS a stretch. I'm a Yoruba man and in our culture there are a lot of elements that are better left unexplained because they look like everything and nothing, a very good example is the Ifa cult which when viewed peripherally has a set of rituals that looks like it was lifted from Islamic rites. Did they borrowed from Islam? Did Islam borrow from them? Nobody in both camps is looking for or is really interested in the answer to that. Looking for similarities between Jewish and Egyptian cultures is futile because there would always exist a similarity between cultures since every religion and science agree that every human shares a common ancestor. As geographically far as Iran(Persia) is to South Africa(Zululand) a close examination of both cultures would show similarities that would not only baffle you but leave you to answer the question where did these two meet? Now using that similarities as basis of discounting the genuineness of their religious claims is just plain unfair.

Horus:

The name Horus is mentioned in the Bible. If you look in Matthew 4:3 where you find the statement “the Son [huios] of God [theos]” referring to Jesus, in the Greek language, you will see Huios Theos. It is not that it is not there. It is just for those who will take the time to research and find it because they want the facts. The Greek word Huios is from the Egyptian word Horus or Haru. This is just to give you clear overstanding that the Jesus of your bible came from the Egyptian diety of Horus, and Christianity came from the various stories from Egypt.

I call this one the Horus Porus Connection

If you look in the bible hard and long for supposed mythological, you would find a ton. Even the story of Jesus looks like that of the Olurogbo cult in Ile-Ife.

This is just to give you clear overstanding that the Jesus of your bible came from the Egyptian diety of Horus,

Actually NO, while the similarity between Jesus and Horus might be remarkable, there exists such similarities between Christ and Buddha. To successfully argue that Jesus the Christ a nothing more than plagiarized myth, you need to pick holes in HIS story, and the things He did, not look for strange and rather far-fetched connections like the Huios Theos translation.

Faith to a man of sight is unimaginable.

chukwudi44:

Optatus

"You cannot deny that you are aware that in the city of Rome the episcopal chair was given first to Peter; the chair in which Peter sat, the same who was head—that is why he is also called Cephas [‘Rock’]—of all the apostles; the one chair in which unity is maintained by all" (The Schism of the Donatists 2:2 [A.D. 367]).

With each early catholic church resource I have access to, I keep having this feeling that I am reading history the way these men wished it had happened and the above quote is a good example, who gave the  episcopal chair to Peter? Where in the bible was it mentioned that Peter was even in Rome let alone being its bishop? and it would have been mentioned cause its impact on early church history would have been profound.

"A 2009 critical study by Otto Zwierlein has concluded that "there is not a single piece of reliable literary evidence (and no archaeological evidence either) that Peter ever was in Rome."

1 Clement, a document that has been dated anywhere from the 90's to the 120's, is one of the earliest sources adduced in support of Peter's stay in Rome, but questions have been raised about the text's authenticity and whether it has any knowledge about Peter's life beyond what is contained in the New Testament Acts. The Letter to the Romans attributed to St. Ignatius of Antioch implies that Peter and Paul had special authority over the Roman church,telling the Roman Christians: "I do not command you, as Peter and Paul did" (ch. 4). However, the authenticity of this document and its traditional dating to c. 105–110 have also been questioned, and it may date from the final decades of the second century."

The above is an excerpt from the Wikipedia article on Saint Peter and his being in Rome is simply a catholic tradition, nothing more.

chukwudi44:

@belabela


Professor macculloch is living now in the twentieth century,while the church fathes like Ignatius,tertullian,Ireneaus,Justin Matyr,Cyprian,Clement of alexendria,Clement of Rome,Ambrose,Augustine e.t.c lived in the 1st,2nd,3rd and 4th centuries .Do you really think that Profesor MacCulloch would know better than this Men who actually lived and witnessed this events.
I really feel for you

Do you know why everybody agrees that the Bible must have been divinely inspired? because with a timeline of more than 3000 years and authors numbering in the tens, it still manages to maintain a correlation that makes it feel like the same person wrote it all. The same cannot be said for the early so-called church fathers whose literatures were filled with wrangling, claims and counter-claims about who is right and who isn't with the catholic folks pointing to the Chair of Saint Peter and the Keys of the kingdom as proof of their credence in spiritual matters and with the greatest political power in the world at their side, they labeled the rest heretics.

chukwudi44:

For the umpteenth time ,let me state it here that the bishop of Rome is regarded as the leader of the catholic church simply because Peter died as the bishop of Rome and nothing more.
Your level of ignorance is amazing,are u sure you truly read the links you provided

It's quite ironic that a religion that was not acceptable in Rome until AD 313 managed to not only keep a list of popes but also managed to guess their pontificate, it makes you wonder who appointed them successors since you might argue that peter was given the keys and is the first pope but how and where was it written that he  passed on those keys?

And where in unbiased history was it stated that Peter was bishop of Rome at any time period? That was simply a RCC attempt at legitimacy ala "we are establishing this church in the tradition of Saint Peter".

@The Clown are you sure you read anything in that article? read it again, It was included to show that in ancient pagan Rome, there exists a title and office of both religious and political power, a priest above all priests and literally the last and ultimate source in all matters of divinity

" His real power lay in the administration of jus divinum or divine law; the information collected by the pontifices related to the Roman religious tradition was bound in a corpus which summarized dogma and other concepts"

That sounds familiar?

I have nothing against catholics, I just don't like been force feed facts, use your intellectual minds, a religion that had operated in the minority been persecuted for every ill and most visible under Nero where every natural disaster was a fault of the Christians and they were fed to Lions and then suddenly the Emperor had a life-changing experience and ruled that Christians are to be "accepted"  as part of normal society and that He in fact is now a Christian.

Imagine you are a worshiper of say Ares or some pagan god, you would quickly rethink your religious situation as Christianity is now fashionable and it quickly became a political tool and did they manage to import some of their pagan belief systems into this newly accepted religion, yeah they did, saints,symbols, pomp and regalia was not part of Christianity as written in the Bible or was it?

RCC's history is littered with instances where it showed just how politically powerful and un-christianly it had become, the Spanish Inquisition and the name of Fredrick Babarossa quickly comes to mind. It had persecuted more people for their beliefs than any continuously existing organized entity in history that I find both annoying nauseating that it is now at the fore front of religious ecumenical movements.

A tree can only bear its fruits and I still stand to be challenged

Anybody with a little bit of history knows that Christianity did not start nor did it initially flourish in Rome. Christians were persecuted severely in Rome(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_persecutions) until emperor emperors Constantine I and Licinius of the western and eastern halves of the roman empire signed the Edict of Milan(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan) in AD 313.

Now Jesus Christ died approx. 313 years before that edict and Peter(who is taunted as the first pope) presumably died 233 years before that in Rome, can any Catholic here tell me who was the pope in that period?

A little research into pre-Christian Roman reliogious systems shows that the word 'pope' or 'high priest' had been in existence before they were converted as a state and it was called the 'Pontifex Maximus'(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifex_Maximus). So that when Emperor Constantine was converted as a result of his dream, Christianity became the most politically strong religion and I am going to leave you @chukwudi44 to figure out what those pagan priests did to remain relevant. A deep look at some of the rites and rituals of the Roman Catholic Church would show so much similarities with what you would read in the Pontifex Maximus article.

So what happened to the early church as founded by Christ? They were scattered abroad in obedience to Christ's command to spread his teachings to all the world and though their was a council in Jerusalem it was effectively disbanded after Titus sacked Jerusalem and the prophecy of Christ concerning the Temple of Herod was brought to pass.

Roman Catholic Church is not the first church by any spiritual reckoning considering that their was much doctrinal dispute at the time amongst believers, disputes which preceded the founding of the RCC(Arianism vs. Trinitarianism) and Theodosius I supported the Trinitarian doctrine as expounded in the Nicene Creed(which became the RCC's Cornerstone Doctrine) from the 1st Council of Nicea. But RCC was the first politically supported church and hence was given much power and influence.


I am just a student of history and I am pretty sure that all institutions based on the same precepts would encounter the same problem given the same resources and all the "Daddy G.O's and His Eminences" are just a slimmed down version of "His Holiness", "Holy Father".

I stand to be challenged.

Hi Tech? when we don't produce a single electrical component in Nigeria. Every 'Hi-Tech' product(ATM, Phones, Laptops etc) we use was imported from some Asian country. Nigeria is awash with imported sub-standard electronics that even international manufacturers create crap products and put "To be sold in Africa" I still saw one Acer laptop with that on it. Without us building a good self sufficient Technology industry we would not get anywhere techwise.

And while it's individually productive to engage in one form of entertaining cognitive activity, taunting the XBOX or The PS as an educative device is the result of good marketing on the part of the manufacturer. My advice? go play table tennis or some similar sport or better still start a local electronic entertainment hardware and software industry.

We have a good amount of 'brains' here in Nigeria and we have only succeeded in exporting them.

Methinks the moderator of this forum should move the topic to the appropriate section.

Everything the poster said has a basis in truth. go to http://www.all-lies.com/legends/business/products/coke/dangercoke.shtml for more info on the death by coke thingy.

If you drink a lot of coke good for Coca-Cola, wished I had stake in the company though.

There are worse things in life anyway and even you would have to admit that Coca-Cola has an additivity to it 'cause some people just gotta have it everyday and that includes the two chicks that sit behind me.

Classic case of 'ikun n je ogede ikun n re di, '

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