Enuguboy4nsk:

thats why i slashed by half to 150,000Naira...ode!

I know you did. Hawkers don't even earn 150k a month. if u are so sure why not join them.
Ignorance is really a disease, one you are suffering from. Its folks like u that get scammed through pipe dreams.
Who's d ode now?

Enuguboy4nsk:
When we told some people that there is nothing wrong with hawking they were busy throwing tantrums
The governor killed it with the bolded “Prohibiting hawking is to tell a man that you don't want to give him food,
and you don’t also want him to steal, it is unfair

thats 100% correct, there is nothing wrong with hawking both morally and legally and even socially...i know some nairalanders here dont earn up to 5k a week ut then imagine a hawker who sells atleast 500 galas in a day in the traffic will be making 500× 50= 25000 Naira....lets say his capital is 15,000 naira he still has 10,000 gain....then 10,000×30=300,000 naira a month; assuming you slash the money by even half he still has 150,000 naira gain..thats by far more than what most civil servants earn yet some people will open their dirty mouth to yan dust.


hawking is better than stealing

infact hawking is a business

if you think hawking is better than pushing drugs in Indonesia and getting killed click 'like'

You are out of tune with reality. Folks like u think of ideas, launch and make profit in your head alone. Why not join the train and hawk gala?
Selling 500 galas a day is not exactly a walk in the park and the profit is no way near what u quoted. 300k profit a month? You really don't know what you're talking about.

SirWere:

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how do you mean @the bolded?? Can you explain further, if you will

What I've realised is that God doesn't have to prove himself to me in a physical manner, because He is not human.

But like I said I'm working on dropping some of my logic and picking up some more faith.

SirWere:


blacksahara
I believe this sums it up. Most of the honest and quite intellectual theists I know Gerard Schroeder, John Lennox, Abu Nazir; always state it between the lines; about the essence of trust.

Even the now "trending" topic on NL; the atheism to jesus own; made mention of him "trusting". That is; using his emotion inside of the facts he knows.


Now this is not bad in any way. Different strokes for different folks. If you feel christianity gives you happiness and answers the problems of your life; if you feel christianity gives you a nudge, a push when life gets hard; that having confidence in a deity that may or may not exist makes you happy; then


Good for you.


As long as you are able to live your life in a way that guarantees maximum happiness with no harm to anyone and to yourself, then, as the Pope once remarked



"Who am I to judge gays you"

Just don't go looking for crazy miracles tho. Experience shows you will be very disappointed.


On a side note; when you begged God to reveal himself, did he do so

U may not understand this but it's what I believe.

He did by not doing.

But like u rightly said we should do what is right by us and that doesn't affect others negatively.

Thanks for ur words.

Pidggin:


Friend, I want to know why you have been opening such threads, of course I want to know your story. It's not what I think of you, it's the report I am getting about you dear. Feel free to send a PM but I won't get it if you don't follow me, cheers.

Done

KingEbukasBlog:


Hey .. It's being long , where have you been ? It's a rather funny story . I think should click on the Ops link then read through and then follow up with this thread

I read ur comment bout me writing like a female. It did crack a smile. But I'm a bro.

wirinet:

I don't mean you personally, I was try to say Christians condemn Muslims for issuing fatwa's to Muslims that convert to Christianity.

Maybe she has bigger plans for you ( marriage things), that must be the reason why she was crying over your religious views. Other than that, I do not see the reasons she would be crying over anyone's beliefs or disbeliefs.

My only advice to you is; be true to yourself and your beliefs. You will confuse your life and people around you by vacillating between beliefs.

Thanks sir.
And if she does have marriage plans for me. I'll be the lucky one. But I don't think so. Cos she's in a relationship. We just friends

naijadeyhia:
This is probably the fastest back and forth i have seen in a long time. Away from God and back all in 24hrs. The reason why we as Believers laughed was because your appearance coincided with a certain Atheists deactivation of his moniker here on Nairaland so we tried putting 2 and 2 together...besides this was your first post so figure it out.

Anyways i am glad you returned and thats because you listened to the inner voice. Welcome

I understand. But I figure it's in my best interest to come back before it's too late. I don't pray to die young. But I know I can die at any time.

Pidggin:


So you joined nairaland.com on 18/8/2016 and on the same day you open a thread, reply and quote people on that thread and even sent me a PM on same day? Lol

See, follow me, I will help you to stop opening such Christian to athiest thread again. Are you not surprised at how I understand you?

So u did get my pm. I actually sent it because I was hoping maybe u'll be interested in hearing my story in private and get advice. There are things I can't discuss here. But I guess I was wrong. You can believe whatever u want ma'am. What matters is that I'm at peace with myself. Not what u think of me. And why wouldn't I reply ppl when I have the time to. They took the time to reply me. Its simple courtesy.

KingEbukasBlog:


Sorry I treated a serious issue with levity . I'm deeply sorry . But I can proffer solution and I implore you to oblige . Visit the nearest The Lord's Chosen's branch and I tell you sis , the solution to your problem is near .

So have you forgiven me dear ? And are you willing to accept ?

No problem at all sir. Tbh I want to treat myself as a total new covert and all advice will be appreciated. Because I don't want to make same mistakes again.

wirinet:


The bolded is what I cannot understand. Why will what you believe or not believe make someone else cry? Why can't she just accept you for who you are? And you condemn Muslims for being hysterical at a fellow Muslim loosing faith.

During my secondary school days in the 80's, nobody asked or cared about your religion, tribe or even status. We made friends easily and truthfully. Even though I was a norminal Christian then, one of my best friend was a Muslim. One of deinde Fernandez's son was my junior, and nobody cared. He was even punished more by seniors.

OP, do what makes you happy. If Christianity gives you joy go ahead and believe. If atheism gives you peace of mind, then go ahead. It is your life. You should never allow yourself to be emotionally blackmailed into living according to someone else's expectations.

First off, I can't recollect me condemning Muslims. Secondly, I can't possibly explain why her tears moved me to u. U won't get it. A lot was discussed, but I can assure u it wasn't emotional blackmail. She tried to hide it.

KingEbukasBlog:





Lolzzz ... I don't even know what to say . Apparently the decision to become an atheist was capricious or arbitrary . Nevertheless may God deliver the OP from mood swings and impulsive decisions , Amen

Thanks for the concern. But tbh I do laugh at u. The challenges I face are not in the same league as mood swings. Life is beyond ur little nice bubble. You may be blessed with a rosy life, but there are ppl on the other side of the divide. U need to understand that. Impulsive decision? Just stick to ur good life and enjoy it. Ppl face real troubles that u can't even imagine.

Pidggin:
Lol KingEbukasBlog

My brother I know you well, okay? This is what Christ is saying to you "Go and sin no more"

I even know the alternate moniker you have used previously but I will not expose it because of your changed stance.

God loves you brethren

Believe what u want but there is no alternate moniker. Not everyone are the Same.

I made a post around the last minutes of yesterday about dropping my religion.

https://www.nairaland.com/3297077/dumped-religion

But I'm pleased to say that I've had a change of heart. Perhaps I should not have been quick to make the post. But what's done is done. I was up for the majority of the night thinking about my decision. I chatted with a guy that I know is an atheist bout my stance.

But all through the night and up till this morning. I read through the arguments on various threads. Also a part of the doctrine of ufos. and some Bible chapters as well.

For a long time I've stopped believing in the efficacy of prayer because it never seem to work for me. Early this morning, I called a friend of mine that has always urged me not to neglect prayer, she counselled me when I explained things to her although she's already aware of some of the things I go through.

One thing I picked from her is that God doesn't need to prove himself to me. He doesn't need to do anything, He can though, but He doesn't have to. But it was when I heard her cry over the phone that my heart melted.

After we hung up, I went on my knees and surprisingly I wasn't even interested in what I want God to do for me but for Him to forgive me.

Im trying to make things right now and I do hope things get better. To the atheists that showed me support, it's much appreciated. and I still respect your belief.

Pidggin whethere u believe it or not I do appreciate u. And to the others, not every account is a clone. And because ur life is rosy doesn't mean that it's same with others. Try to show empathy, you don't know what the person behind an account is going through in life.

I know i appear as someone with indecision issues but I'm at peace with myself. Are my problems still there? They sure are. Do I see a solution in sight? No I don't. But I do have a hope of a better tomorrow.

To all those that may be in the situation I was yesterday, I'll like you to know that even if no human knows what u are going through. There's someone that actually cares, He may not wave a magic wand to make them disappear, but you just have to trust.

Another thing I've learnt is that I have to forego a bit of logic and apply more faith. Do i sound silly to myself? Perhaps. But it's the choice I've made and I'm happy with it.

Muafrika2:

Most atheists here live in the closest. Some are serious evangelists out there. -Fake atheists

SirWere is just like you. He should be able to advise you.

To be honest, my family is my main concern. I'm not interested in been loud or to disturb ppl bout it. Everybody has the right to make their choice.

naijadeyhia:
Blacksahara you lie faster than the shots from an AK47. LMAO

What a desperado! Gosh Atheists disgust me with their level of envy and hypocrisy. Chai

And you are a human polygraph? Envy what or who exactly? You? I think I'll pass. U don't even know me yet if u v d chance u'll shoot me before u shoot d devil u believe in.

Pidggin:


See how you are contradicting yourself? this is what you posted "I know Christians alongside Muslims will look to insult me or convince me to change my mind, please save it and respect my decision" "I was born into a Christian family but I don't feel God, if He is real then I think He is unfair and I am not down with that" are you now the same person telling me you asked God for a sign to prove He is real today? Trying to act as if you want to be converted or something when you've already judged Him

I thought you said your decision has already been made and that no one should try to convince you otherwise?

The more you post the more you contradict and confuse yourself.

My brother I know your intention behind this thread, God loves you please do not quote me again as I will not respond. Good luck to you and yours

Whether u rrespond or not is ur business. I did not contradict myself. Asking God (if He exists) to prove himself was a last option for me, because I really feel that if He does He won't let met go 'astray' but guess what He didn't.

Pidggin:


I am not making senseless allegations, I know exactly what I am saying but you won't understand because you don't know what the Holy Spirit is capable of

First of all you attack me for exposing you, now you try acting all emotional?

Keep deceiving people if you like, bye

Expose what exactly? That I've had my opinions for a long time? That was stated

Believe me whether u like or not. This evening I told God that if He is actually real and can hear me, He should give me a sign. I'm hoping I'll get one but it doesn't look like nothing is coming.

About emotion. Do u really expect me to be joyous at this point?

ifenes:


Know that you are not alone,so be honest about being an Atheist. I pays to open up. It may be rough at first but you will realize that was the best decision

Always think for yourself and do not jump on anyone's belief or bandwagon. Learn to listen to your heart because within is the real you.

Being an Atheist is no excuse to do whatever you like. Remember you will always be responsible for your actions. Be nice and respectful to people because that way you can contribute to a better society.

Continue to keep an open mind.

Family may reject you but do understand alone you came and alone you will need to sort yourself out. We live in a world of abundance,there is no way you will lack your basic need. Somehow you will sort yourself out.

Thanks. Advice noted

Pidggin:


I expect him to come back with a supposedly valid excuse for using an alternate moniker

And will you believe me if I tell u that I have a thousand monikers?
Your thinking is really shallow.

KingEbukasBlog:


Only fools will be deceived by this . Look at them trying to appeal to emotions . There is no proof whatsoever that you are telling the truth .

I'm outta here . Gosh . I'm disgusted at this attitude from you atheists .

How hard is it for u to understand the fact that I'm not preaching atheism. Emotion play? Yes you are right because I can't help it

Please note I'm not here to preach atheism. If you practise a religion, stick to it. If I can draw so much hate from ppl that don't even knw me, hell will have no fury like those that do.

KingEbukasBlog:
LMAOoo .... winner01 , 4evagod , richirich713 , felixomor , naijadeyhia atheists now create new monikers to spew lies


This is the nadir of desperation


LMAOOOOOOOOO

Wrong.

KingEbukasBlog:


as in ... and there are so many of such threads out there !!! . Full of lies



Atheists are very deceitful .!!! Well , what do you expect from exponents of a false belief

I won't argue with you bout belief or faith cos I've decided I won't tow that line. I respect others decision. I actually advise anyone that has a faith to stick with it.
You just can understand, its like hell within me.

Pidggin:


Why hide behind an alternate moniker since this is an anonymous forum?

Am I angry bout ur comment? No. You think this is easy for me? All my relationships are as good as ruined and all you care about is to make senseless allegations?

To begin with this is my first time in the religion section.

I wish you don't go through what I'm going through right now. For ur info, it's not an easy process. I'm almost at tears right now. Nothing makes sense to me.

Pidggin:
Obviously you've been an athiest for a while now. Whom are you trying to deceive?

Did u not read the begining of the post? Who says I'm deceiving anyone? If you don't like the post will thunder strike u, if u keep quiet?

For years I've been contemplating the God issue vis a vis heaven, hell and the likes. But today I made the big step and now I'm an atheist. Do I feel peace within me? Nope, because I dread the moment it'll come out. Do I feel I've made the right choice? Tbh, I can't say for now. But I believe time will tell and prove me right.

I know Christians alongside muslims will look to insult me, or convince me to change my mind. Please save it and respect my decision
Just the same way I've decoded that I won't attack or insult any believer of faith. Everybody has the right to pick their choice.

I was born into a strong Christian home but I don't feel God. If there is, then I think He's unfair and I'm not down for that.

I don't know how to break it to my folks. I know y friends will take it as it is even tho they'll resent me for it.

My relationship? I can kiss it goodbye, cos my girl will break it off with me the moment I tell her. I don't want to lose her neither do I want to keep a secret from her and mislead her.

My family? My parents will probably disown me. My siblings may leave me and respect my decision, but I know my parents especially my mom will not.

To the atheists in the house, how did u come out? How do u handle the stigmatisation? I know my chances of having a relationship is next to zero.

I need advise because sooner or later I have to cone out.