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Politics › Re: APC MANIFESTO: We'll Grow Oil Production To 4MBPD, Revenue To $50bn By 2019 by BlackTechnology: 7:51am On Feb 07, 2015
LRNZH:
Does diversifying the economy imply abandoning the oil sector? huh undecided
Farmer go buy your farm tools grin
Politics › Re: APC MANIFESTO: We'll Grow Oil Production To 4MBPD, Revenue To $50bn By 2019 by BlackTechnology: 7:49am On Feb 07, 2015
LRNZH:
Speak for yourself and your fellow militants. Not for the Niger Delta.

The average SS man did not see kobo kobo under GEJ and Diezani.

Boyloaf, Tompolo, Asari etc na dem wack the $12Billion per annum oil bunkering business.

Niger Delta is going nowhere.
Obiagelli Berem Barcanista


Your APC thieves are unveiling their real motive


Tell them to


Plant their cocoa seedlings and groundnuts grin
Politics › Re: APC MANIFESTO: We'll Grow Oil Production To 4MBPD, Revenue To $50bn By 2019 by BlackTechnology: 7:46am On Feb 07, 2015
LRNZH:
https://cdn.akamai.thisdaylive.com/0bef99d6-acf5-4e2c-9779-8fa02ba3fcd4/assets/130115F-Crude-Oil.jpg?maxwidth=400&maxheight=540

The All Progressive Congress (APC), has said that if given a chance at the central government, it will grow Nigeria’s daily crude oil production to 4 million barrels per day (mbpd) by 2019.

The party stated this at a town hall meeting [/b]organised by the Centre for Democracy and Development (CDD) to discuss the policy documents of two leading political parties in the forthcoming general elections, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP and APC).

[b]The APC by its plan, promised to grow Nigeria’s crude oil production from the current average of 2.2mbpd to 4mbpd within four years.
It additionally said that it would grow Nigeria’s revenue from crude oil production to $50 billion from its current level and in the process, completely eliminate gas flaring within two years, which is by 2017.


The Publicity Secretary of APC, Alhaji Lai Mohammed in a lengthy presentation at the town hall meeting which was also meant to set an adoptable agenda for the development of Nigeria’s petroleum industry, explained that if the APC was elected, it would also augment gas supply to Nigeria’s power sector by 500 million standard cubic feet per day (mscuf) by 2019, about double of what the country’s power sector gets from the domestic gas supply agenda of the federal government.

“We will increase government revenue from its current $30 billion per annum to $50 billion per annum within four years through a proactive measure without losing the attractiveness of the sector,” Mohammed said in reeling out the plans of the party for the sector.

He noted that an APC led federal government would also open up the sector to ensure accountability both within the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and all other government agencies in the sector, adding that with considerable look on the recommendation of the Oil and Gas Industry Committee (OGIC) 2001, upon which the PDP led federal government was planning its reform of the country’s petroleum sector, it would push for greater reform in the sector.

Within such reform and with regards to the Petroleum Industry Bill (PIB) which has remained in limbo for long now, Mohammed noted that APC would split the PIB into parts to make it easier for passage, adding that the PIB as currently constituted was complex.
He said: “PIB as it is, is currently complex. We will split the PIB into separate parts and submit them to the National Assembly to pass into law.”

He explained that investments in the country's upstream and marginal oil fields would be pursued by the APC, with regards to redefining the Production Sharing Contract (PSC) regime as currently observed.

APC, he said, would ensure that the government negotiated viable and profitable PSC arrangements with interested operators and at the same time, ensure that the financial burden of developing acreages was shifted from the government to private operators.

But the PDP, which was represented by one of its officials at the town hall meeting, Dr. Katchy Onunuju, said that it won't spend time repeating what the APC chieftain said as the party was only trying to reinvent most of what it was already doing in the country’s petroleum sector.

Onunuju picked holes at APC's plan for the entire petroleum sector, saying that the party's preference for foreign investors in the sector as against PDP's embrace of local investors was against the interests of Nigerians.

He said: “APC is rephrasing what we are already doing. Crude oil presently constitutes just about 15 per cent of our Gross Domestic Product and what we have done is to expand it to allow it work for all Nigerians.

“We attempted to deregulate the downstream sector to allow Nigerians benefit from its attendant opportunities but the opposition galvanised Nigerians against us,
and in partnership with people that were benefiting from the ugly subsidy attempted to shut down the country.

“As stated by my brother, Mohammed in his position paper, APC wants to bring in private foreign investors to mine our oil and gas; we are saying, no, we want our people to mine and make use of the oil and gas that we have for our benefits.

“Why engage foreigners to do what our people can do. It is always a win-win when Nigerians are in charge of our oil and gas industry and that is what we are doing now. Let me tell you the truth that APC don't know; the Nigerian Civil War was not fought just for the unity of Nigeria but to gain access to the oil and gas resources and it is the same thing now with this election because we have said, no way, Nigerians should take ownership of their resources.”

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/apc-pledges-to-grow-oil-production-to-4mbpd-revenue-to-50bn-by-2019/201199/
Oya come steal our oyel

Go and plant your cocoa seedlings and groundnuts


Lazy thieves


Whose true definition of change is oyel wells grin cheesy
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:43am On Feb 07, 2015
mrmetoo1:
What does this even mean?? My guy I really do hope you have some solid deals with this government if not this is just pathetic.

After you guys have tried every tactic to discredit Buhari, you now want to postpone elections. You guys don't mind if Nigeria burns as long as your guy is in power.

The reason I'm hoping you have some deals is, I've met some staunch GEJ supporters but when you find out they have solid deals they're working on with guys in power in this administration. Even though I don't agree with them, I'll say at least I understand a bit. No one will use his own hand to close his revenue source especially the multi million dollar ones.

For you guys however that gets paid pennies or are just supporting this guy for whatever flimsy reason I'm sorry for you. Your mates are there buying property at Burj Khalifa, you're here talking about PHCN Bill. How you guys can't see how these guys are destroying this country and throwing pennies back at Nigerians.

I'm tired of this government, the sooner I know they're not going to be handling the state of affairs of this country anymore the better.
6Weeks is not close to May 29


So stop spewing trash and tell Jega to do the right things. wink
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:41am On Feb 07, 2015
ikotubiabio:
This country is funny! Soldiers will not provide security if election holds as scheduled but they will provide security if another date is fix. Is't that funny? It is believe Bh will be wiped out once election is postponed. All elegible voters will collect their PVC once election is postponed. Hmmm, there is more to this than what I can imagine.
telad:
Most of that have been collected. I guess its mainly those registered of recent by those who lost theirs or have not reached the age limit at 2011. But most of this PVC yet to taken are fraudulently registered.
Tell Jega

To

Produced all PVCs

Distribute all PVCs

Through a decentralized system cheesy
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:38am On Feb 07, 2015
Adexchelsea19:
D place weh i do my registration,dem neva even cum con distribute d pvc there.na owo ondo state nd dey won do election,inec neva even show dere.so how dem want mak we vote,no b wetin person see hin dey collect fah.
Achilies:
Please o.
All I want to know is how come 70% of the southerners who registered have not receive their pvc huh
If election is to hold on the 14 of this month. What will those who have not receive their pvc use to vote.??
No mind Jega and his yeye tricks


No PVCS No Election


Produce all PVCs

Distribute all PVCs cool
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:33am On Feb 07, 2015
Obinoscopy:
I'm so sorry if I said anything that offended you. But that won't change my stance one bit. I used to be given the impression that Jonathan is clueless and isn't in charge. But the current allegation by the opposition that Jonathan is wielding the Army for his personal gains shows he isn't clueless after all. Which means our opposition, yourself inclusive, are contradicting themselves.
Sometimes ignore some illiterates


Only cows will call a quiet professor clueless of SS/SE zones cool
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:31am On Feb 07, 2015
bokohalal:
There will be a coup and nothing will happen. Biafra will still be a part of Nigeria.
Why not plot it today nawwww


And see Nigeria cease to exist



Your foot soldiers BH is under attack by 4 nations. grin
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:29am On Feb 07, 2015
CyberTerrorist:
grin grin...Police should come out with their own submission...No PVC, no election...More than 5,000 people waited in vain yesterday to collect their PVC in my local government allot no avail and this aboki wants to go on with election...they no born am well angry
Fact

INEC produce and distribute all PVCs through a decentralized system cool
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:27am On Feb 07, 2015
ApexTitan:
Can INEC on the other hand state the percentage of voters cards that they have given out to people? Despite all the assurances from Jega it appears they are anything but ready. Why did they fix the elections for Feb 14th in the first place if they are still racing to hand out voters cards up till now?
Gbam

Imagine 19million PVCs yet to be produced


19Million PVCs mostly Southerners cool
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:25am On Feb 07, 2015
bokohalal:
I will not be surprised if some patriotic soldiers decided to take the matter into their own hands.
Nigeria will cease to exist

Please help end Nigeria faster through a coup


I hope you have bought your cocoa seedlings and farm tools grin
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:22am On Feb 07, 2015
mrmetoo1:
Please provide proof of this baseless write up. What parts of the south exactly is missing 19 million. Please what parts?
If only you had paid your PHCN bill , you would know this fact. cool
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:18am On Feb 07, 2015
Jega

No PVCs No Election

Make sure the production of all PVCS are completed

Make sure the distribution of all PVCs are decentralized


cool


ULSHERLAN:
How do you know 19m PVC are yet to be produced and are mostly southerners?
If the Inec chairman says he is ready to conduct elections with given reasons that PVC will be distributed b4 the date of election then we should let him. I can tell you that not everybody is going to vote if given their PVC, so we shouldn't be blinded by PDP's tactics cos they seem weak at the moment and chances of them losing out with a landslide is visible come 14
Toktee:
buhari is a terrorist,i does nt work,he dnt have a certificate,it does nt work,apc is clowning pvcs,it does nt work,apc hack inec database,it does nt work,council of state to postpone election,they refused,and the use of army which will not work cos the will of the people is bigger than the politicised nigerian army.
But waite o,why are you people afraid of FEBUHARI ELECTION?
cashkid:
And how have they stopped him? Has Jega made any statement to that effect? U beta go and learn how to read n understand what u have read before you make comments n start laughing like a goon.
derrick333:
Evn if inec postpone the election to Dec,Som nigerians wunt get thers ,is jus to extend the mayham,is Jona scard of defeat or whathuh ? U cnt win always ,loosin is part of it,we jus wnt dis election to com N go we cnt wait abeg,we don realy need dos incompetent soilders,relyin on meger wit Chad to defit untrained boko bois
cinedu:
There is no way PVCs can be distributed to everyone, completely impossible.
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:12am On Feb 07, 2015
omenka:
Can we see what this president is doing?? Seun can you see the degree of desperation of the guy you support?? Can you see how far he would go to kill our democracy??
This is totally disgusting. I hate this guy more with every decision he makes.
JEGA give us our PVCs

Obinoscopy:
So Jonathan isn't clueless after all. His ability to wield the Army shows he's in control, he's in charge.
adrainuche:
Yekpa ... sad shocked shocked
Somebody shout "CHANGE"
Perhaps the clueless one isn't as clueless as we taught he is !!!
You know the problem with quiet people you think they are fools until they start orchestrating some intelligent move...
If Gej postpones these election then he's one bad Nigga ... Even tho
Change is imminent so where ever you are stand up and tell your neighbour
"Neighbour we need CHANGES" !!!!!
Both of you are smart

Don't mind those who underestimate a quiet professor

What we posted months ago about Jega's BH sympathy , has being investigated and found to be true. grin cool
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:04am On Feb 07, 2015
ULSHERLAN:
If this is true, it just potrays GEJ to be who he wants us to think Buhari is.
19Million PVCs are yet to be produced mostly Southerners

And Jega has the guts to insist on election


Jega failed plan to allocate 20k PU to the North and 8k PU to the South


Jega is up to something funny

Unfortunately, the security agencies stopped him grin
Politics › Re: We Won't Provide Security For February 14 Poll Unless Its Postponed - Military by BlackTechnology: 7:00am On Feb 07, 2015
espn:
Now it'd obvious GEJ is using d ARMY to intimidate and rig election. U can't provide security for election but over 1000 security forces escorted the president to bayelsa. Smh
Tell your Boko Haram sympathetic Jega to ensure that all PVCs are produced and distributed at places where people registered to allow for easy collection

#NoPVCnoElection cool
Politics › Re: Jega Working With North To Install Buhari - Edwin Clark & Alex Akueme by BlackTechnology: 6:52am On Feb 07, 2015
owobokiri:
Jega needs to be put on the spot! He has to explain to Nigerians how Borno state with all the jumpy security situation in that state, recorded far more INEC PVC delivery exercise than MOST southern states!!! This is a pure heineous crime only surpassed by his weird attempt to increase northernm polling booths by over 30,000. This must be why they got rid of Azazi and co. . These hyper active fulani oligarchs together with their crumb eating Yoruba "bom boys" have been running rings arround an utterly bemused jonathan for months.
The NE PVC collection rate proves that INEC Jega is up to something funny

How can a war zone area be able to get such figure. undecided
Politics › Re: Boko Haram Carries Out First Attack On Niger Republic by BlackTechnology: 5:41pm On Feb 06, 2015
cirmuell:
west? huh
North west of Borno grin
Politics › Re: Valentine Day: Time Line To Anarchy And End Of A Nation by BlackTechnology: 5:38pm On Feb 06, 2015
BackDatAssUp:
Cool down fool.

Don't you see I am playing out two scenarios?

We will still analyze a Buhari win here... You hear?

Odestanni mumu.
Don't mind him

Unknown to him, civil war will erupt in Odua between Tinubu and Anti Tinubu forces which will attract the forces of Arewa, Biafra, ND and MB taking sides which will reduce Odua to ashes grin
Politics › Re: Valentine Day: Time Line To Anarchy And End Of A Nation by BlackTechnology: 5:24pm On Feb 06, 2015
BackDatAssUp:
Tuesday, 24 Feburary.

Nigerians wake up to Marshall music on the Radio.

Maj. General Mohammed ************ announces the end of civillian rule.

Jonathan's whereabouts and condition are unknown.
SS pulls out

SE and MB joins secession

Weapons pour in


War erupts


SS SE and MB join forces to safe guard their territory

SW lays in complete confusion with OPC opting for secession


US and world leaders deliberate on what to do


War rages with more nations approaching both sides for benefits


SS SE and MB agrees to exchange oil for weapons at a cheaper price


US not wanting to lose cheap oil, sides with SS SE and MB


Nigeria ceases to exist


Tinubu and Anti Tinubu camps clash over control of Odua

Civil war erupts in Odua

Arewas join forces with Tinubu


Anti Tinubu forces ask SS SE and MB for help


Odua plunges into total chaos.


After years of conflict, a peace deal is signed. cool
Politics › Re: APC Manifesto Spending Plan To Cost N53trn Over Four Years - Business Day by BlackTechnology: 5:16pm On Feb 06, 2015
micolaj:
You and rubbish are inseparable
grin


Farmer, have you bought your farm tools and cleared your cocoa field. grin
Politics › Re: APC Manifesto Spending Plan To Cost N53trn Over Four Years - Business Day by BlackTechnology: 5:07pm On Feb 06, 2015
I hope their plan is not based on oyel money


They should plant enough cocoa and groundnut for it grin
Politics › Re: Jega Gives Signals That Elections Could Be Postponed by BlackTechnology: 4:33pm On Feb 06, 2015
Election should be shifted to March 28 to enable a complete distribution of PVCs and transfer of PVCs
Politics › Re: Valentine Day: Time Line To Anarchy And End Of A Nation by BlackTechnology: 4:09pm On Feb 06, 2015
grin

SS threatens secession

SE and MB re echo SS dissolution of Nigeria. cool
Politics › Re: Boko Haram Carries Out First Attack On Niger Republic by BlackTechnology: 3:49pm On Feb 06, 2015
Now Niger will sit up and attack BH from the west completing the encirclement of BH


Thank God cool
Politics › Re: See What People Think About Buhari - It Will Surprise You. by BlackTechnology: 3:29pm On Feb 06, 2015
grin

B= Brought

U= Us

H= Havoc

A= And

R= Retrogressive

I= Illiteracy

cheesy
Politics › Re: Exclusive Photos: Asari Dokubo At Gej's Campaign Rally In Bayelsa by BlackTechnology: 3:25pm On Feb 06, 2015
UrennaNkoli:
Why should I marry a thug ? Pls give me reasons why I should marry one.
Because you are a poor and jobless lady. Who will see a rich thug as a way out of poverty grin
Politics › Re: Exclusive Photos: Asari Dokubo At Gej's Campaign Rally In Bayelsa by BlackTechnology: 3:21pm On Feb 06, 2015
Yungwizzzy:
Welcome to Nigeria where militants are celebrated


While the law abiding are neglected!!

smh
Wrong

It is

Welcome to Nigeria where some lazy tribes abandoned their cocoa groundnut etc for ND oil and still got guts to insult the ND people. grin
Politics › Re: BOSTED!!! Buhari Is A Plan By The SW To Return To Power by BlackTechnology: 12:24pm On Feb 06, 2015
ACTIONSOP:
Although, i am not a fan of any of the presidential candidates , however,I want to share this with you guys to judge, during a political interactions about Nigeria Feb.14 with some Northern colleagues of mine in Canada, this is what most of them had to say about Buhari and APC.
The reason for the massive support of buhari by the SW is very clear. APC planted Osinbajo (SW) a younger candidate as VP, knowing fully well that GMB an old fellow with health issues might not make it till the END just in case of victory at the poll.
The same principle Dr. GEJ assumed power after the death of late President Yaradua God bless his soul.

The reason why some Northerners are still doubtful about Buhari, some argued that why APC didn't choose from the majority of YOUNG ,educated and enlightened politicians as candidate from the North. If APC fans say that ONLY GMB at 73years is the man they trusted among thousands of noble candidates from the NORTHERN part Nigeria then there is a problem.
It is today you know


We have being saying it since and added that if APC wins and Buhari dies, coup will take place and the Yorubas will be subjected to slavery for life with the help of the SE/SS who will seek revenge of a brutal type. cool
Politics › Re: Whether Jonathan Gets Re- Elected Or Not, N’delta Will Resume Militancy – Briggs by BlackTechnology: 12:18pm On Feb 06, 2015
When are you guys buying your farm tools and cocoa seedlings

Oil flow will soon stop to flow


walexbiz:
like they say talk is cheap, if not for the cluelessness of the this otuoke man governing this country, which one of these militia ever raised their during regime the military regime, i just want anniko briggs to be careful of what she says come may 29 when power would have change hands, the amiable general would simply do the needful to keep all of you mouth shut. Obasanjo might have acted with little force, but the tale of odi and the othe villages is there for others to see and learn, i want you to know the amiable president will add little efficiency to the strike force of our military and paramilitary agency and all form of militancy will be a thing of the past. A word is wnough for the wise
feelamong:
let these mofos continue to make noise...
very soon we will have a proper C in C in Nigeria and I will see who will get mouth to be mouthing all these rubbish!
Bunch of Scoundrels!!
lilbabyak:
You no need shout like peak (militancy) its in you
First thing jonathan is not winning
Secondly try it and you'll know there has been a change in govt.
Palapala bi apala
musiwa97:
Can this thin place fight. No
https://zodml.org/images/ba_mapl.png
Caseless:
Must foolish and clueless people always come from that region?
SMS!
Zoharariel:
Y didn't they rear their ugly empty heads during Genaral Sani Abacha's regime?
Make Buhari enter 1st.
Maple:
This ND Militants (abi na business boys) sef, with their "we go do this", "we go do that" and they dont do shit....Anyways who cares about the barkings of a Chiwawa dog (ND Militants), when he/she is used to the roars of a Lion (Boko Haram). Just like BH, your days are numbered. After GMB decimates BH finish, you'll come on your knees to beg for mercy. Cry babies!
Rilwayne001:
Whats dere right? undecided
Poverty go kill una once oil disappear grin
Politics › Re: Jonathan Put Nigeria’s Economy In Women’s Hands –patience by BlackTechnology: 12:10pm On Feb 06, 2015
Are women not humans

Maybe your mothers sisters aunties nieces etc are brainless but not ours



Caseless:
No wonder our economy is in a humiliating shambles and our naira on a free-fall due to the women poor handling of the economy
This woman na illiterate!
bashydemy:
OBJ said it and some TANoids castigating him....
Zoharariel:
No wonder we're where we are.
barcanista:
We all know this. All hail President Patience Jonathan
TeamSimple:
And they took it to their husbands' kitchen..because its so evident.
eighTHREAD:
Kindly reason like a lady for a moment. Who among the 2 gentle men below will you spend February 14(val's day)with? Below are a few of their qualities. GEJ: He is the incumbent who has been your boyfriend for over 5yrs now. He is a zoologists and appears calm and friendly. A christian from the south with a Phd. Boasts of reviving the rail transportation and also provides you with plenty to eat as he believes he has transformed the agricultural sector amongst others. Even though many believe he has exposed you to insecurity, corruption and has reduced your image in the commitee of nations ladies, he believes if giving 4 more years, he will right those wrongs. He loves you thesame way your past lovers did 15yrs ago. Heavily boxed with resources and connections, he promises to continue with what he's been doing in the relationship and even do more only if you accept to go on another date with him this february 14 https://www.effectsinternationalmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/GoodLuck-Jonathan2.jpg best man: architect Namadi Sambo, a very loyal friend who is hardly seen nor heard. Boasts of reconciling aggrieved friends of the incumbent. Other friends of the incumbent are Femi fani-kayode, Fayose, pastor Ayo oritsejafor etc https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Namadi_Sambo.jpg [img]http://4.bp..com/-ORfeG9hOA2M/VHZAVbViqbI/AAAAAAAD-aI/NTyV6YI5qN4/s1600/2.jpg[/img] Buhari: GMB, as he is fondly called, is a retired general, a lover of discipline and a man of integrity. He has tried for over a decade now to be your man and still shows no sign of giving up. He believes he loves you so much to heed to the voice of relent. He once dated you before, and during that period, you were a beauty without a single blemish of corruption. He just can't stand beside and watch you rot away. Many believe he's too old for you and you've had him before, so you need something different. He believes he is CHANGE and willing to make-up with you that's why he wants you to go out on a date with him on FEbuhari14. https://www.bellanaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Buhari-2015-BN-3.jpg bestman: Osinbajo, a Professor, SAN and a Pastor moulded into one. He has rallied round your neighborhood, telling your friends how much love GMB has for you, his plans and how he intends to fulfill them to the betterment of your life. He is willing to help his friend redeem you from the claws of corruption and insecurity which has plunged you into an open relationship. Other friends are Rotimi Amaechi, Fashola, Rochas Okorocha etc https://media.premiumtimesng.com/wp-content/files/2014/12/800x500xIMG_2813-001.jpg.pagespeed.ic.rjVcTsb1iv.jpg [size=67pt]click like for GMB.....share for GEJ. pick wisely[/size]
kponkedenge:
So we've been ruled by women all this while abi, no yawa God de sha.
Meanwhile in another news
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ollah1:
Now i understand why Obasanjo said Nigeria has five presidents apparently the stronger four are holding the economy into ransom while the weakest and most clueless one just can't do anything.
SilentPrince:
Is that a good thing? From evidence, no.

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