₦airaland Forum

GofuckYourself:
If you take a bottle , an empty one and fill it with sand . Mind you this bottle is transparent , then you go ahead and label it wine but mind you everyone can see it's sand .

You go to the extent of advertising it as wine but we all see it's sand , when you pour a cup would it takes like wine or sand?

It's not a riddle don't worry your guess is as good as mine.
What you are mentioning here is just an effect of the falsehood in religious practise of christianity.

You can't slap me every time and tell me you love me.

You are hitting me and causing me pain yet you still tell me you love me?
Truth is clear as day and as simple as the wind .

Even Lord jesus was so simple In his blessing deeds and teachings it is mankind who have through falsehood and Manipulation complicated things .

Truth is simple and needs no subtitles and explanation. Christianity as practised is very far from what Lord jesus brought to mankind. What we have today is a farce laden with falsehood and lies.

Look at the simple yet nightly powerful prayer he taught us (The Lord's prayer )

Look at the nonsense people say today in the name of prayer . Die by fire enemy die
Thunder this and blood of jesus this and that

A circus of complications and nonsense.

Infact they have schools for different kinds of prayers !! Who taught mankind all those rubbish? No the son of God for sure !!

Truth needs no extra explanation or talk because it is simple for even a child to understand, it's falsehood and Manipulation that needs many explanation.

Even your spirit is rebelling against this because by our spiritual nature our spirits know truth but this body and brain has created all these complications for material reasons

I rest my case

I feel great distress and unhappiness sharing faith with some people who just don't know when to stop all of these nonsense. It's annoying to my senses..

I find it out rightly ridiculous and offensive to the cross of carvery, yes, they desire to do good but to sit on billions and appoint our mothers in 60s to sweep the church for 25/40k per month salary which they know isn't adequate in today's modern world... Yet I administer billions of funds.



Am I alright. Am I still sane or.. I don't get it

GofuckYourself:
At times I just look at things like this and smile

Slowly and surely the end of deceit is close.

All these spiritual conmen and women calling themselves pastors

Don't get me wrong. I'm also a Minister and called to serve at the pulpit. I don't think I have the desire to oversee 100 Billion and I will have members with little needs financial resources can meet and deliberately choose to look the other way


This disturbing thought has been hunting my soup this evening and I can't seem to find peace in my soul


I will be on the pulpit as my training season comes to an end. I pray I don't become such a man ever. Ever and ever.


I find it very disturbing that finances is an issue with people of calling.



See.. I got stuck one day at around midnight in a location far from my house. I looked for a church to pass the night.. Vigil

I found one. A church in planks. I worshipped with them love the ministrations they received and welcomed and prayed with me.


They called for offering at the close of service. When I got outside by dawn I was shock the car I saw the pastor driving was worth 2.2 Million.. The church he was ministering in was planks not worth more than 80k a year.... I couldn't shake it off my head and mind... Why not sell the car for the sake of the Love for the kingdom and fix the church up and grow from there


Am I overthinking?

Forgive me for thinking out loud

Let's discuss our faith guys from a different perspective this time around


Cc


Jesusjnr
Etfash
Madprophet

Is it Morally And Spiritually right for me if I'm a Pastor and oversee let's say 100 Billion Naira in church funds and committ let's say 10 Billion Naira to building a new church building and don't committ as much to giving to members some of which have been loyal for about 10/20 years ...



And I keep committing gestures like Investing in edifices and do not attend to members welfare.. And yet I'm in position to ensure the financial welfare is looked after but don't do it.. And I keep doing this repeatedly having the oversight of resources to see to the improved financial welfare of members but don't do it...



Are there scriptures that judges me wrong for doing such?

owobokiri:
Trust nobody while in power..
Investigate everyone, every move and every suggestion..
Double check before every step..
Constantly monitor close allies..

Roger that. Betrayal can never come from outside. Never. It's always from within rotteness starts..Going forward, everyone must be routinely investigated constantly.

owobokiri:
I totally agree with you.
I just think that this is the stage where we find ourselves in global politics..
Poor people are easily manipulated because of their vulnerabilities..
It definitely won't be the case for ever.. Just hope it ends sooner than later..

It's beyond poor. I've seen and had well educated persons gave me insane betrayals in my life.


Judging by the picture with his comrade above reminds me of Tupac and a picture of him sitting in the midst of six friends all that betrayed him nearly to death before he died.


My creed has become anew henceforth... " To Stand Alone..."


I will never hold any human being dear in my life till I return. Never

Penguin2:
Thomas Sankara, one of the finest gentlemen to have headed an African state. Assassinated with the help of the West.

The kind of Trial Blaise Campaoré is going through is the same kind of trial that Theophilus Danjuma should be going through but he has rather been rewarded with multiple oil wells.

Someday the North will pay.

I'm telling you. The atrocities this Nation's oligarchs like Danjuma committed.. Only to be rewarded with oil Wells and insane deals and protectionism.


Redemption is on its way

Saved

owobokiri:
Blaise Campaore is a symbol to the ruthlessness of the neo-colonial super powers in their affairs in Africa. This was Sankaras right hand man. So close to Sankara that when Sankara was told of the coup, he said that if Blaise was involved, there was nothing he could do. Sankaras father actually called on Campaore who used to visit his house with Thomas before the came to power , to tell him what happened to "his brother".. He did not just kill his friend, he hurriedly buried him in a shallow grave..

This man killed one of the most vibrant revolutionaries to come out of Africa. A vibrant young man determined to serve his people was mowed down on the orders of France because he refused to take orders from Paris. This also goes to those who keep accusing many African countries of being incapable of moving forward! When the best leaders are assassinated by western proxies, and misfits are made presidents, the destruction of the country becomes inevitable.

The story of Burkina Faso and Thomas Sankara shows that the influences of powerful foreign countries in dictating the politics of developing countries are the main reasons why most of these countries struggle..

Another good one. The same country has still not gotten itself in good shape even 35 years after this assassination.


What best friends will continue to do in this world.... I choose to pin it on betrayal. Human greed and disloyalty than Western influence. A man without impure intentions can never be influenced or motivated from external source. Never.

tonididdy:
I hate this country with every fibre in my muscles.

Everything goods and services received over a 100% increase, yet Nigerians are relaxed like it's nothing happened.

People speak based on the level of their intellectual abilities. Most Nigerians are literate, but technically not as astute as they ascribe to themselves.

Muyiwaipere:
Heat will kill you

Lol. Mofo ooo

Go for mini flat for peace of mind critical to life building. 300/400k will fix this


Your annual house rent must never exceed 30/35% your annual earnings. Always stick with this principle.


Never sacrifice a peaceful environment for a cheap environment.. It's effect can swallow up your three years Remuneration

Ladycewhy:
Na you know who send you message wey you dey run up and down.

See energetic outburst You go dey alright. Though I know say you get nothing to look forward to. Ozwor

Ladycewhy:
Sue me "for goodness sakes".

Your energy is on Saturn level. Make I run. Go Cum, you go dey alright

Fahmurix

Ladycewhy:
I salute Gladys Ada Ukeje, for her courage, doggedness and bravery to fight and stand her ground over the long aged misoginistic culture and traditions put in place by brown teeth snuff sniffing ancestors who for reasons best known to them didn't want their female children to benefit from their wealthy after their demise.


She is a true feminist that fought for the right of the girl child for generations yet unborn. Once again I salute this great woman.

See your energy for goodness sakes.

Glycosunde:

Thanks for educating them but we can't force them to see beyond the smokescreen because they are apologists. Remember even the devil has allies and sympathizers. Hopefully we will get it right one day but until then, let those who know keep on been the discerning voices


Sighs.......... Drops pen

Thanks Bro



I appreciate. My soul finds comfort with just this one voice of support. At this point, I rest my case and log off.

Glycosunde:

Don't mind them. How are they going to be making almost #1,500 per bag. It can't be #2,500 as he claims but he wants to shift the blame as it is customary of them to do. You can imagine that the people feeling the brunt are the ones also defending this monumental corruption. Nigeria who did this to you?

Sighs........... Drops pen

Smiles. This is another highly intelligent yet brief comment. If truly it is 2500 per bag, are we saying 1500 is added to this. Wow. I didn't even see it from this angle. Nice one

Neutralobserver:
So cost of electricity and transport in Zambia must ble exactly like Nigeria...two different countries.....

Comrade lenin, good afternoon.

Smh. As usual. Continue. You go Tey where you dey


By the way. I have 40 workers working for me.. And have acquired 50 acres. And currently into production. This is my 675th project since I've been intro project management.


Never worked for anyone. Always creating jobs everywhere I go. Mentored over 300 Nairalanders offline. When I speak on economics, trust me, I'm a maestro. If you doubt check my points one by one and debate them intelligently.


Since you don't know gas powered turbine in production avails atleast 200% cheaper productivity and power stability critical to consistent productivity.

christejames:
Rabiu (BUA) has really opened my eyes into how greedy and clannish the man Dangote could be... Amassing wealth at the detriment of other nascent investors.


Rabiu, even if this rudderless government continues to frustrate your effort as it's being orchestrated by Dangote, we the true lovers of free market economy will stand by you through thick and thin till a more concerned government takes over power.

That's Dangote's nature. Rabiu is exposing him for who he truly is

TOPCRUISE:
Only Dangote cement price is lower in Nigeria. All other cement is lower. Besides all other countries don't depend on Dangote

That's why the market needs to be liberalised


Do you know if you had 10 Billion Naira today the government won't give you access to produce cement.. Are you aware?

Neutralobserver:
Okay, Comrade Lenin.

Is cost of electricity. Or transportation in Zambia free?

Ochoiho:
The op justifying this exploitation of the populace with 'higher cost of production" can post these costs per bag to justify such claim. Is Dangote not making profit in the country where this same cement is sold at #1800 per bag? Cost of export as well as local transport is inclusive in the 1800 price. How can the op explain this.
Dangote cement posted a profit after tax of over 300billion For 2019 YOA.
Nobody takes anything from this world. We are all going to die and leave every thing behind.
There is no reason why a bag of Cement should be more than 2k in Nigeria is competition is effective.

God bless you o my brother.


If excess profits is made in business at the expense of high product cost, what is a rational mind supposed to do?

Neutralobserver:
In other words, all the cement companies should sell cememnt at government controlled prices...tried before, usually wrecks the economy long term.

Plus you are quoting one of the oligarchs to make your point.








And BUA and Lafrarge could not reduce their prices....

You can buy BUA and Lafarge. I daresay their cement prices are cheaper. It does not have to be dangote...




Okay, so you think all the money dangote gets from cememt goes into his pocket.....a lot of that cash goes into worker's pockets too as salary. And workers of Dangote too need salary iNCREASES occasionally....also cost of doing business, maintenance of plants, upgrading...






It would have...prices would have been much higher.

Another emotional reaction



If you listen more patiently in life, you can give fitting answers. You will also. Improve and increase knowledge while at this.


Proverbs 25 vs 11


Rushijg to comment and fight with words is the first sign of choosing a side before properly evaluating facts. Which means, you are not as neutral as you imagine. Mr. Neutralobserver

Even Dangote doesn't produce what he wanted to. Because the community that owned the land he wanted to use for farming discontinued their agreement. So why is kettle calling pot, black

Tayeni:
BUA and Dangote are in the same industry and are at each other's throats. It takes cooperation to establish an oligarchy. Abi has the meaning of oligarchy changed?

I've told you to go and read. Rather than try mud slinging or emotional arguing back and forth. I don't do such. I've given factual analysis throughout my discuss here. Go and read them and debate them one by one point by point. If you want healthy interaction


Good day

Neutralobserver:
Because Dangote is his competitior, and they are fighting very very hard.

See how Dangote is badmouthing him in the sugar industry.

Big men companies fight each other all the time. (Microsoft vs Ubunutu and Microsoft vs Netscape comes to mind)




And he is succeding in cement where he does not have a monopoly...you can still buy BUA, LAFARGE and even Elephant cement, or imported cement.

You don't understand what a monopoly is.

Oliganomics. Nonliberalised markets



I know you have your stance and you are emotionally sticking to it. I've been giving you facts by facts. Please debate my points fact by fact plz

tonyson010:
You believe the bad lie.....

These cost of Transport and logistics are not encountered in other African countries where he sells cement cheaper

Denial up & down. The truth is that he makes loss in other place just to beat the competitors out of market. He then use the profit from Nigeria (being the largest market) to cover his loss.

God bless you. O



I was waiting for them to say transportation isn't added in Zambia, Ethiopia where he sells too.

Neutralobserver:
Dangote is not running an oligopoly...especially as there are two other companies.




So why is BUA operating freely...and Lafarge too?

Your problem is that you want cememt at a cheap price, not Dangote.

The problem is the sector is under oligarchy and not liberalised, hence market prices is controlled by oligarchs which takes the power from the citizens reducing them to dummies, working slaves of the oligarchs


https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/02/09/bua-advocates-liberalisation-of-cement-policy-to-crash-price/




Are you aware that cement prices sky rocketed to 3500 Naira from about 2500 Naira because a complex equipment in Dangote got damaged... This created brief scarcity and triggered the cost to rise...


And that when prices shoots up economically, it hardly wants to go back down even after repairs because Greed is the key factor here not economics of demand and supply


This would have never happened in a liberalised economy because other producers would take advantage of market gaps to continue production without spike in prices

Xisnin:
This is like saying the sky is blue. The price of any product depends on supply and demand.
You have to look beyond the basics to understand the issue.
Despite the topic, my submission was about economic realities and not specifically Dangote.
So, this issue can only be solved from an economic and legal perspective, any other approach
will have no effect.


Nigeria used to import more than half its cement until OBJ decided it was a bad idea.
You don't hoard limestone just like investors don't hoard oil wells. You either own one
or you don't. It is not something you share.
BTW, do you support blanket allowance for the importation of any product into the country?


BUA is playing a psychology game as all capitalists do. The only thing wrong from the perspective of BUA is that
Dangote cornered the largest part of the market. If the roles were switched, Dangote will be playing the same game.
It is never about right and wrong for a capitalist. It is always about profit and outmaneuvering the competition.
Which is also the beauty of capitalism. If Dangote lowers his price tomorrow, BUA will follow suit despite the "scarcity" excuse.



I actually read this article then. Rabiu isn't calling for more competitions in the real sense.
He is calling for "liberalization" which is different because that would weaken his competitor but
it isn't because he is some angel. Rabiu won't call for or work towards liberalization of any industry he dominates.

I still maintain that there is no specific law preventing new cement companies from starting up.
One thing Rabiu could do is rally his own politician investors and introduce a new bill into the national assembly
to correct any specific problem with the current policy. That would give Nigerians a real view of the industry.
Just blaming "policy" is not enough.

You shot yourself in the foot


In street, you say Rabin is calling for help to weaken it's competitor, but that's the essence of liberalising the economy. To make it have free access to more players so prices and conditions and productivity can never be controlled by a single party



Are you aware if Dangote was doing what it is in Nigeria in China and Europe, it has breached antiMonopoly rules and would be severely sanctioned..


Are you?


The economy must truly be open. And not what it appears to be with Oliganomics.