₦airaland Forum

Nnamdipapa:
Fyi: I do not believe in the Abrahamic religion so this is not a muslim bashing thread, just us Nigerians trying to to evaluate and share opinions.

They feel more pious by following those set of laws. Their legal system reflects their moral system. What other tangible did you need. Did they promise Sharia was going to give them any benefits listed? Did Mohammed himself make any of those promises? These sort of arguments won't work on Muslims.

QuestLINKsPrpty:
But why?🤔

The legislature is expected to hold the President accountable.

Lol the Supreme Court doesn't have an army. The legislature doesn't hold the executive accountable. Any reasonable person could argue the President is breaking his oath of office. It doesn't matter since the Constitution is paper it won't enforce itself.

I, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, do solemnly swear/affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to the Federal Republic of Nigeria; that as President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, I will discharge my duties and perform my functions honestly to the best of my ability and faithfully in accordance with the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and the law; that I will abide by the Code of Conduct containing the Fifth Schedule to the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria

Lol did the law ever matter?

Bede2u:
water is also a problem in Nevada. In Qatar, the government converts sea water into drinking water. SE is not connected to the sea. The only way out is for Enugu to dig for ground water (which is the current ineffective method) or to look for a way to convert a river into drinking water or partner with a state that is close to a large water body.

Why aren't they partnering with neighboring state for water. These governors just like looking busy at these governors Forums. There's plenty of states in The USA that form interstate compacts for this purpose. I know Texas and Oklahoma have an agreement regarding the Red River allocation.

The long term effects of this policy should be studied. I'm curious to see how these set of orphans end up compared to orphans in other states.

smokinloud:
I'm not saying it's okay to ban alcohol, and I'm actually against such a ban. My point is that access to alcohol is not an inherent right, and its regulation can be subject to secular laws.

Your comparison to weed laws is valid, as many countries regulate or prohibit substances due to their potential harm. However, the key difference lies in the motivation behind the regulation. While secular governments may restrict substances for public health or safety reasons, imposing Sharia law to ban alcohol is a clear example of religious influence on legislation.

My argument is not about advocating for a ban on alcohol or promoting libertarian atheist ideologies. Rather, it's about upholding the principles of secularism and ensuring that laws are based on neutral, evidence-driven reasoning rather than religious doctrine.

The motivation of laws doesn't matter constitutionally. The laws government is only limited by it's constitutional powers. If you disagree point to the section of the Constitution where it says they can't do it for the reasons you stated. Logically they can ban alcohol for multiple reasons.

Having religious influence doesn't contradict secularism by the way. The United States was secular and has banned alcohol for the same religious motivations before unbanning it. The temperance movement was religious . Again, you're making a distinction without understanding the context of what you're advocating for.

smokinloud:
I understand that in a federal system, states have the power to make laws. However, I'm concerned that these state laws may infringe upon individual rights and freedoms, particularly when it comes to religious freedom and personal autonomy.

Regarding your point about access to alcohol not being a constitutional right, that's a fair point. Nevertheless, the issue at hand is person freedom to what adults want and the enforcement of Sharia law in a secular state, which raises questions about the balance between state and federal power.

Lol, you're essentially saying it's ok to ban alcohol but dont say your religious beliefs influenced it. That's pretty silly considering the secular government makes laws restricting all manner of adult decisions on other drugs and vices. You can't legally smoke, buy or sell weed now sharia or no sharia. You're not governed by libertarian atheist.

smokinloud:
It's astonishing to see Hisbah overriding Nigeria's secular laws. As far as I know, there is no federal law in Nigeria that explicitly bans alcohol. The Nigerian constitution guarantees freedom of religion and separates religion from state affairs.

Given this, it's perplexing that the federal government seems to be turning a blind eye to Hisbah's actions. Why are they allowing a state-level Islamic enforcement agency to supersede national laws and impose strict Shariah regulations on citizens? WHY??.?!!!.

You're perplexed because you fail to understand States can make laws in a federal system. Access to Alcohol isn't a constitutional right. What you should be wondering is why the federal government holds prisoners for breaking state laws. These Sharia states should be forced to build their own prisons to house these law offenders.

Spy X Family
Dan Da Dan

I've always thought that the subservience of the National Assembly to the president was an expression of Nigerian cultural subservience to authority. Imagine my surprise when I learned today that the legislature almost impeached Obasanjo in 2002.

The legislature is subservient because the executive pays them off. The legislature is happy collecting checks and looking busy. Anything they do is normally ignored by the public because they lack basic civics education and common sense. Remember Obasanjo was the only president to get his veto overridden by NASS. Rivers State Assembly is the only other Veto override I know about. This shows they are slaves just on one accord.

yarimo:
You are a fake lawyer, national assembly alone can't impeach nigeria president or vice president without the 2/3 of state assembly

Stop spreading lies. Read section 143 of the Constitution and tell me where it says states states are involved. What's craziest is people liked that nonsense you posted. This shows civics education is lacking.

143

1. The President or Vice-President may be removed from of office in accordance with the provisions of this section.

2. Whenever a notice of any allegation in writing signed by not less than one-third of the members of the National Assembly:

a. is presented to the President of the Senate;

b. stating that the holder of the of office of President or Vice-President is guilty of gross misconduct in the performance of the functions of his of office, detailed particulars of which shall be specified,

the President of the Senate shall within seven days of the receipt of the notice cause a copy thereof to be served on the holder of the of office and on each member of the National Assembly, and shall also cause any statement made in reply to the allegation by the holder of the of office to be served on each member of the National Assembly.

3. Within fourteen days of the presentation of the notice to the President of the Senate (whether or not any statement was made by the holder of the of office in reply to the allegation contained in the notice) each House of the National Assembly shall resolve by motion without any debate whether or not the allegation shall be investigated.

4. A motion of the National Assembly that the allegation be investigated shall not be declared as having been passed, unless it is supported by the votes of not less than two-thirds majority of all the members of each House of the National Assembly.

5. Within seven days of the passing of a motion under the foregoing provisions, the Chief Justice of Nigeria shall at the request of the President of the Senate appoint a Panel of seven persons who in his opinion are of unquestionable integrity, not being members of any public service, legislative house or political party, to investigate the allegation as provide in this section.

6. The holder of an of office whose conduct is being investigated under this section shall have the right to defend himself in person and be represented before the Panel by legal practitioners of his own choice.

7. A Panel appointed under this section shall

a. have such powers and exercise its functions in accordance with such procedure as may be prescribed by the National Assembly; and

b. within three months of its appointment report its ndings to each House of the National Assembly.

8. Where the Panel reports to each House of the National Assembly that the allegation has not been proved, no further proceedings shall be taken in respect of the matter.

9. Where the report of the Panel is that the allegation against the holder of the of office has been proved, then within fourteen days of the receipt of the report at the House the National Assembly shall consider the report, and if by a resolution of each House of the National Assembly supported by not less than two-thirds majority of all its members, the report of the Panel is adopted, then the holder of the of office shall stand removed from of office as from the date of the adoption of the report.

10. No proceedings or determination of the Panel or of the National Assembly or any matter relating thereto shall be entertained or questioned in any court.

11. In this section- “gross misconduct” means a grave violation or breach of the provisions of this Constitution or a misconduct of such nature as amounts in the opinion of the National Assembly to gross misconduct.

These thugs act up because the punishments are too light. 2 week in jails would straighten out most of these idiots.

Lol you can only hope. What difference will it make when you guys won't vote them out? Who votes based on their supposed fiscal conservatism?

KnowAll:
This would not fly. No state Assembly would admit that they do not have people in a LG. This theory.

Where did you read they have admit anything?They can adjust the borders for any reason they please.

KnowAll:
There are some LG in Borno State that has no people. Basically that LG should be scrapped and merged with another LG that has people.

What do you guys think😳

There's already a constitutional process to get that done. He doesn't need permission from us to get that sorted out. He's just running his mouth.

Chapter 1 part 2 section 8

(4) A bill for a Law of House of Assembly for the purpose of boundary adjustment of any existing local government area shall only be passed if-

(a) a request for the boundary adjustment is supported by two-thirds majority of members (representing the area demanding and the area affected by the boundary adjustment) in each of the following, namely -

(i) the House of Assembly in respect of the area, and

(ii) the local government council in respect of the area, is received by the House of Assembly; and

(b) a proposal for the boundary adjustment is approved by a simple majority of members of the House of Assembly in respect of the area concerned.

obiekunie01:
THE SCHEME SHOULD BE TWO MONTH IN CAMP FOR TRAINING ON VARIOUS SKILLS AFTER WHICH EACH CORPER WILL BE GIVEN 1.5M TO GO AND SETUP A BUSINESS.

OUT OF EVERY 200, AT LEAST 70 WILL DO SOMETHING USEFUL WITH THEIR MONEY.

These will go a long way in reducing unemployment.

16 years of education and the population has no useful skills for the workplace 🙄. It's pretty amazing the government who sets educational standards failed from primary to university. 2 more months and 1.5 million naira is the answer.

olayinka63:
Now everyone will benefit from this either Christian, Muslim or others. This change was influenced by a Muslim lady who challenged the status quo. When she was doing this, some Christians would wag their tongue saying Muslim wahala too much. What is good needs collective efforts irrespective of whoever initiated it. Christians should learn how to support Muslims whenever a good cause is being championed. Many cases like this are out there.

Your story proves you don't need the support of the other side to get initiatives passed. If the people of consequence see reason the change happens. It's better people stop wasting time consensus building with people who disagree with them.

TTPAAR:
Hmmmmmm


If I say this Nysc scheme is a failed stuff and should be scrapped, some hungry undergraduate will drag me.

They will if they don't have real employment prospects. If they're in demand then NYSC is just an excuse for employers to pay them scraps for a year. Everyone knows what camp they belong in.

[quote author=dru23 post=133050283][/quote]You're reduced to retarded response. Let's mog instead of answering the questions.

dru23:
Well boss man , argue how u want argue. Don't expect simple $10 from anyone in Yankee, when egg reach $10 dollars instead of $3 .....

All countries need low key need illegals. I can recall growing up in naija. That time naira get value well well. The house helps that my uncle hired that time was were from the neighboring Africa countries.

Now those illegals from those neighboring African countries worked harder and better than the Nigerians counterpart. And they were cheaper and trustworthy. This was very common in the construction sector. They did excellent work ....

And am sure u were still wearing diapers in the 80'. That was the period of Ghana must go. The Ghanaian illegals were all over Nigeria at that time working and sending money home . The naira was very strong....

I no get time to dey lecture you bro. Time consuming for me. The little I lecture u now, digest am and come back with better argument. If I no respond back to you. It means u still have a lot to learn and I don't want waste time and energy

Sir you no time to lecture me but you wrote multiple paragraphs without answering direct questions. You nairaland negroids are a weird bunch. Again your family being dependent on dollars overseas is not my life stop projecting your issues. Instead of you rambling foolishly about your past just answer direct questions regarding the subject.

Why not hire legal migrants instead of illegals. A hard work ethic is a cultural and individual trait. Why exactly should they be allowed to break immigration and employment laws? America somehow managed to have cheap eggs for decades without illegal aliens we can do it again. They used to hire temporary workers from Mexico and other country for these jobs. Ceasar Chavez advocated for these type of workers instead of "wetbacks".

dru23:
Ok o Boss man. When a eggs and other vegetables cost a week paycheck. Don't ask anyone from the USA to send Dollars to you.
Because when we have to make life decisions at the grocery store whether to buy food stuff or send money to one Segun guy in Lagos . No vex if they don't send the money, even na Ordinary $10 you ask o 😂 [b][/b]

My eggs will cost $10 dollars because farmers don't want to hire more legal migrants? They already admitted half their workforce is legal. Why exactly should they be allowed to break immigration and employment laws? America somehow managed to have cheap eggs for decades without illegal aliens we can do it again. Ask yourself what's the real reason they opting for illegal labor.

2nd why is your nation and family so dependent on handouts from people abroad. Shouldn't you be worried about fixing your nation's economy so you won't need their charity?

Nearly half of the nation's approximately 2 million farm workers lack legal status, according to the departments of Labor and Agriculture, as well as many dairy and meatpacking workers.

Its interesting farmers always seem to have this issue. They will either pay more, embrace tech, or hire legal workers.

1865: How can we do farm work witouth slave labor?
2025: How can we do farm work without exploiting illegal aliens as a permanent under class?

gare:
Please I do need urgent advice form lawyers in the house, my friend an Igbo lady just lost her dad, and her brothers are seriously fighting to takeover the father's estate and leaving she and the sister empty handed, please we do need wise counsel from the house.

Please only serious comments needed.

Moderator pls take it to front page it is urgent

Call a lawyer. Didn't the Supreme Court already ruled on this?

grandstar:
Hi ya
Long time.

What are your views regarding Trump's victory? Americans just threw themselves under the bus

The last time I felt this sad over an election was Buhari's reelection in 2019. The absolute disaster was re-elected for a second term

Trump does not need those tariffs to create jobs. The slash in incorporate tax to 19% would turbocharge the economy alone.

It is time companies should apply pressure on him not to implement those tariffs.

Ii
Retail chains for instance can enlighten the public of what a 60% tariffs entails. Most Americans either don't know what a tariff is or that the importer pays the cost and passes it on to the consumer.

I think US companies should be proactive and not reactive. They should not fold their hands and do nothing.

I like Trumps policies for the most part. His immigration, energy, deregulation and foreign policy are better. We need to get our borders under control firstly by stopping welfare payments, next by getting rid of birthright citizenship for illegal aliens and then deport the people illegally in America 🇺🇸. The birthright citizenship will be done by the Supreme Court. The exception to birthright citizenship does include children of foreign invaders according to the Wong Kim Ark case in my opinion.

I don't like the Universal 10 tarrifs policy. There's going to be a deadweight cost regarding tariffs. Then we will have to deal with the increased cost of goods since we import items for the manufacturing process. Retaliatory tariffs will hurt our exports. Ladt time, he had to bail out farmers because who already received subsidies.

Anyway I do think he should opt to negotiate trade deals instead. The UK is starving for one after Brexit. If you do targeted tariffs it's always about national security not economic well-being of society. They usually benefit a few businesses who don't want competition like the domestic sugar industry.

bluefilm:
I hope they will not raid online bettors in Kano too?

Thank God for the gift of internet

What's stopping them from prosecuting anyone hosting that material? Those sites can easily region lock them if the government starts breathing down their necks. If they choose to ignore, that's their business.

We love states rights. Ride on Hishbah. Gamblers in the affected states come spend a weekend where it's legal. Your business is welcome.

Anthropology and linguistics courses should be very popular subjects in Nigerian universities.

UKEMY:
That Means southern Governors can make a Law and ban the sale of Cow?

Yes they always could but won't. They could build their prisons and hold law breakers but won't do that either.

Lol it just shows alot of people never work a days hard work. You're crying you have to earn your money? Are the wearhouses in Nigeria not cold?

Lol there's too many broke losers in the comment section complaining about paying for their own stuff.