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Megaflex:
ur reasoning ability is very low, since u cant comprehend my write up. those who wrote ur bible or Quran gave god his sex, because they think less of d female folk. i cant argue wit u because it will yield no result.

Let me drop dis for u

I laugh. who said so? paul or Peter. pls stop spreading falsehood.

ifenes:
Who will punish Hitler and the Mass murderer? Tell me, which is worse between betrayal and murder?

God will punish all Sinners. weather a murderer or a betrayer.

> Ecclesiastes > Chapter 12 > Verse 14

For God shall bring every work into judgment,
with every secret thing, whether it be good, or
whether it be evil.

ifenes:
Can you define death please?

Death is the absence of life. simple

ifenes:
I will take it you are surrounded by fools,that's why you think everyone is. Science itself is part of Occult. Didn't you learn it in school?

What is Occult? Knowledge hidden from the masses.

New World Order? A reformation of a Society to have a central power. Are you not a part of it? You follow rules and regulation don't you?

Bible Prophecies? Those are stoles Prophecies from older books.

Clown.So you know that their is a new world order. and what do you think is their motive?

U contractdict Urself .how is science occult .is it hidden?

WestAfricanGoon:
Nigga, Wtf are you talking about biko. Wetin tower of babel take concern EU? Smh. This is what I'm talking about. Stupid conspiracy theories baseless and pointless.

I laugh at U. go to EU website. and verify. will EU site also be a consipracy theory.

WestAfricanGoon:
Mods abeg can I report somebody for stupidity

Idiot ,if u have brain disprove it. that's what smart people do.

sukkot:
lolz it shows he is reading the bible very well. we are two different people. the bible tells you what hell is. its a state of heavy suffering on earth. when your nation has been ravaged by poverty and suffering and hunger is what is called hell.

psalms 9 vs 17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. << SO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE AND NATION OF PEOPLE ARE TURNED INTO HELL. YOU BECOME HELL. YOUR NATION BECOMES HELL. THE BIBLE IS A BOOK THAT HAS TO BE CAREFULLY READ OR YOU END UP PEDDLING MYTHS

Wrong. When will sinners be cast into hellfire?
"So shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of
man shall send forth his angels, and they shall
gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them
into a furnace of fire." Matthew 13:40-42. "The
word that I have spoken, the same shall judge
him in the last day." John 12:48.
Answer: Sinners will be cast into hellfire.

sukkot:
lolz it shows he is reading the bible very well. we are two different people. the bible tells you what hell is. its a state of heavy suffering on earth. when your nation has been ravaged by poverty and suffering and hunger is what is called hell.

psalms 9 vs 17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. << SO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE AND NATION OF PEOPLE ARE TURNED INTO HELL. YOU BECOME HELL. YOUR NATION BECOMES HELL. THE BIBLE IS A BOOK THAT HAS TO BE CAREFULLY READ OR YOU END UP PEDDLING MYTHS

Wrong. When will sinners be cast into hellfire?
"So shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of
man shall send forth his angels, and they shall
gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them
into a furnace of fire." Matthew 13:40-42. "The
word that I have spoken, the same shall judge
him in the last day." John 12:48.
Answer: Sinners will be cast into hellfire

Rossikk:
The soul world has many dimensions. At the highest levels there is no form. Just pure Consciousness.

Lie . their is no Consciousness in Death.

after death?
"The living know that they shall die: but the dead
know not any thing, neither have they any more a
reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also
their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is
now perished; neither have they any more a
portion for ever in any thing that is done under
the sun." "There is no work, nor device, nor
knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither
thou goest." Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10. "The dead
praise not the Lord." Psalms 115:17.
Answer: God says that the dead know absolutely nothing!

Let me ask U. when u are in deep sleep do you know what is happening around U ? how much more when u are dead.

ooshinibos:
Thank you , I appreciate your support , I hope our people wake up ..as some of us have already woken to the reality of life both spiritually and mentally

U are welcome bro.

Stconvict:
You know something that is funny about you Christians.
You try to find logic to explaining what is essentially illogical.
At first you are like, it's fire and then a logical question comes up, and you are like it's a different type of fire.
You guys are truly unsure of what you are following but you get the felling that it is there.
Well unexplained feelings are not very helpful. The feelings should to be examined and explained thoroughly, not just dismiss it with a simple , non-sensible explanation. Which is what the bible is.
I can have a strange feeling in my belly and just dismiss that it is the devil dancing in my stomach and therefore pray to god about it. Or I could go to a doctor to get examined based on collections of logical and physical studies done through the years.
I was at a burial yesterday and I listened as the pastor ranted on and on about afterlife and people all sober and listening with rapt attention.
I shook my head. This people have no clue that there is simply no afterlife. There is no soul. There is only one life to live.
This mentality of afterlife has made a lot people redundant to productivity. They simply accept their situation, quoting some verses in the Bible to console themselves about a better place after death where they will live happily ever after.
Tell me how this doesn't sound like a Cinderella story.
The interesting part is, there are two groups of Christains. The educated ones and the uneducated ones.
The educated ones try to use logic and science to explain a lot of illogical mysteries about the Bible. The uneducated ones however, do not bother to explain anything. They know little about science. They believe god is in the sky. They believe heaven is in the sky and that hell is perhaps beneath the earth. They don't even know how the bible came about. They don't even know how Christainity came to Nigeria. They probably never bothered to ask. It doesn't feel right when an atheist/agnost asks them certain brain-probing questions because some questions are better left unasked. They are scared of blasphemy and they watch what they say to avoid rejection.
At the end of the day, educated and uneducated alike resort to the basal way of explaining phenomena with a book written thousands of years ago. Or was it? What if through those years some people edited the wordings of the Bible? What if some contexts were lost to translations. Who knows?
Either way, just believe.
Well they forget some of us like to ask questions. We are passionate about how things work rather than just knowing they work.

So You feel their is no .afterlife? but failed to realize that whatever made U in the first place can still raise U from the dead. stop decieving Urself

MrPresident1:
Hell is both a place and condition of human existence. It is not a furnace up there in the skies but a furnace right here on earth.

Stop decieving yourself.
When and how will hellfire be kindled?
"So shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of
man ... shall cast them into a furnace of fire."
Matthew 13:40-42. "They went up on the breadth
of the earth, and compassed the camp of the
saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came
down from God out of heaven, and devoured
them." Revelation 20:9. "The righteous shall be
recompensed in the earth: much more the wicked
and the sinner." Proverbs 11:31.
Answer: At the end of the world, God Himself will
kindle hellfire. As the holy city comes down from
God out of heaven ( Revelation 21:2), the wicked
attempt to capture it. At that time, God will rain
down fire from heaven upon the earth, and it will
devour the wicked. This fire is Bible hellfire.

Hell Fire is not for eternity .even the Devil is burned to ashes .
Ezekiel 28:11-19King James Version (KJV) 11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. King James Version (KJV)

But the Bible speaks of the wicked being tormented "forever," doesn't it? The term "for ever," as used in the Bible, means simply a period of time, limited or unlimited. It is used 56 times in the Bible in connection with things that have already ended. (To check in a concordance, look up the word "ever." It is like the word "tall," which means something different in describing men, trees, or mountains. In Jonah 2:6, "for ever" means "three days and nights." (See also Jonah 1:17.) In Deuteronomy 23:3, this means "10 generations." In the case of man, this means "as long as he lives" or "until death." (See 1 Samuel 1:22, 28; Exodus 21:6; Psalms 48:14.) So the wicked will burn in the fire as long as they live, or until death. This fiery punishment for sin will vary according to the degree of sins for each individual, but after the punishment, the fire will go out. The teaching of eternal torment has done more to drive people to atheism and insanity than any other invention of the devil. It is slander upon the loving character of a tender, gracious heavenly Father and has done untold harm to the Christian cause. QUIZ QUESTIONS

KingEbukasBlog:
But what about the rich man and Lazarus ?

Doesn't the story of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31 teach an eternal hell of torment? No, indeed! It is simply a parable used to emphasize a point. Many facts make it clear that this is a parable. A few are as follows: A. Abraham's bosom is not heaven (Hebrews 11:8-10, 16). B. People in hell can't talk to those in heaven (Isaiah 65:17). C. The dead are in their graves (Job 17:13; John 5:28, 29). The rich man was in bodily form with eyes, a tongue, etc., yet we know that the body does not go to hell at death. It is very obvious that the body remains in the grave, as the Bible says. D. Men are rewarded at Christ's second coming, not at death (Revelation 22:11, 12). E. The lost are punished in hell at the end of the world, not when they die (Matthew 13:40-42). The point of the story is found in verse 31 of Luke 16. Parables cannot be taken literally. If we took parables literally, then we must believe that trees talk! (See this parable in Judges 9:8-15.) 7. But the Bible speaks of the wicked being

sukkot:
its an allegorical story. the rich man is esau aka the white nation and lazarus is jacob aka the blacks. its an allegorical / prophetic story of what will happen in this world which it is happening now. the white man is rich and we are wretched and poor begging for his crumbs


galatians 4 vs 24 Which things are an allegory:

matthew 13 vs 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

So IBB,Ibori,Odili,Dangote, and Abacha were also Lazarus?. u are sick
A country God gave oil,water,land no earthquake,Hurricane,Ternandoes.

ifenes:
Christians will keep deceiving themselves. Hell fire is a metaphor for the suffering which results from not achieving a proper mental/psychological growth. It is a state one puts his/herself if not in alignment with him/her true self.

Keeping fooling yourself. so Hitler and other mass murderers will go unpunished?

KingEbukasBlog:
Thanks bro for your contribution

I know the bible mentioned torments , fire and brimstone . But the question is how does an immaterial being feel the heat of hell fire ?

The Soul is not immaterial. what goes to hell fire is the body. their is no where in the bible were the lord said the soul is immortal or will be casted into far. A man is a living Soul only when he has the breath ( Spirit ) of God in him. read Genesis 2:7

The wicked are not immortal. The Bible says they
will "perish", "burn up" and "be destroyed".
5. What will happen to the wicked in hellfire?
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the
abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers,
and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall
have their part in the lake which burneth with fire
and brimstone: which is the second death."
Revelation 21:8.
Answer: The wicked die the second death in
hellfire. If the wicked lived forever being tortured
in hell, they would be immortal. But this is
impossible, because the Bible says God "only
hath immortality." 1 Timothy 6:16. When Adam
and Eve were driven from the Garden of Eden, an
angel was posted to guard the tree of life so that
sinners would not eat of the tree and "live for
ever." Genesis 3:22-24. The teaching that sinners
are immortal in hell originated with Satan and is
completely untrue. God prevented this when sin
entered this earth by guarding the tree of life.
Bible Clear - Wicked Obliterated
The Bible says the wicked suffer "death" (Romans
6:23), will suffer "destruction" (Job 21:30), "shall
perish" (Psalms 37:20), will "burn" up (Malachi
4:1), "shall be destroyed together" (Psalms 37:38)
, will "consume away" (Psalms 37:20), "shall be
cut off" (Psalms 37:9), "shall be slain" (Psalms
62:3). God will "destroy" them (Psalms 145:20),
and "fire shall devour them" (Psalms 21:9). Note
that all of these references make it clear that the
wicked die and are destroyed. They do not live
forever in misery.

veecovee:
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE. Read mark 9:43

Their is no living Soul of a dead person.
Where are sinners (who have died) now?
"The hour is coming, in the which all that are in
the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come
forth; they that have done good, unto the
resurrection of life; and they that have done evil,
unto the resurrection of damnation." John 5:28,
29. "The wicked is reserved to the day of
destruction." "Yet shall he be brought to the
grave, and shall remain in the tomb." Job 21:30,
32.
Answer: The Bible is specific. Both the wicked
and the righteous who have died are in their
graves "sleeping" until the resurrection day.



2. When will sinners be cast into hellfire?
"So shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of
man shall send forth his angels, and they shall
gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them
into a furnace of fire." Matthew 13:40-42. "The
word that I have spoken, the same shall judge
him in the last day." John 12:48.
Answer: Sinners will be cast into hellfire at the
great judgment day at the end of the world--not
when they die. God would not punish a person in
fire until his case was tried and decided in court
at the end of the world. Nor would God burn a
murderer who died 5,000 years ago 5,000 years
longer than one who dies and deserves
punishment for the same sin today.

ifenes:
Who wrote Mark 9:43? The new testament is an allegory. It is full of metaphors. Everything is HERE and NOW. Those who cling to the material world are likely to experience lots of suffering/pleasure that comes with programming your mind that way. The State of Mind is all that matters. If you brainwash an individual,they become different as a result of different info to others. Free your Mind from religious virus and you won't experience Hell. You are what you think.

You are a big fool. try to do research on Occultism,New World order, bible prophecies and others. and come and tell me your findings

MrPresident1:
And to buttress the strong point you have made, this is where Israel (the Negros) went to hell:

Ezekiel 31:15
Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.
16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit:

Hell, grave, pit, they are all the same thing. All nations that forsake God will be cast into the grave, into the pit, into hell. Hell is the symbolic world to mean separation from God, if you are separated from God, you are in hell. Hellish conditions are conditions of human suffering caused when one is forsaken by God.

Psalm 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Israel, the Negros are in hell today because they forsook God, they turned to wickedness against the commandments, Law, and ordinances of God, so they descended into hell, into the grave.

And Israel, Negros, are still in hell today awaiting redemption which salvation will come by the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Stop writing trash ,Negroes are not in Hell neither
are they iseralities.

ChessUg:
the heat of hellfire is type of heat that is immaterial. The immaterial soul is compartible with that immaterial heat! selah!!

Their is nothing like immaterial Soul.
Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Soul is a Man with life. what goes to hell fire is the body were it is destoryed with the soul.

MrPresident1:
And to buttress the strong point you have made, this is where Israel (the Negros) went to hell:

Ezekiel 31:15
Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.
16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit:

Hell, grave, pit, they are all the same thing. All nations that forsake God will be cast into the grave, into the pit, into hell. Hell is the symbolic world to mean separation from God, if you are separated from God, you are in hell. Hellish conditions are conditions of human suffering caused when one is forsaken by God.

Psalm 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Israel, the Negros are in hell today because they forsook God, they turned to wickedness against the commandments, Law, and ordinances of God, so they descended into hell, into the grave.

And Israel, Negros, are still in hell today awaiting redemption which salvation will come by the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Stop writing trash ,Negroes are not in Hell neither are they iseralities

UyiIredia:
Hell is separation from God and all His goodness after death so if you die without knowing God you are gonna be left there. I'd still like to keep my options open on who goes to hell. Let is remember the wise words from 2 Timothy 2:19
But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,”. I'll let God decide who goes to hell and who doesn't and won't judge that on the basis of ones belief.

All Sinners will go to Hell. there is no confusion about that.

Some key points about Hell Fire.

1.Hell does not exist now. but will be at the end of this world.
2. the Soul is not immortal. it can die. and would be destoryed by God in Hell.
3.Hell is not for eternity. but will be long enough to burn all the sinners. duration for each individual sinners fire will be according to their works(sin) here on earth.
4.Hell fire will be here on Earth.

For more detials and bible proves please click or copy and browse this sites.




amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/30/t/hellfire-a-twisted-truth-untangled




amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4988/t/is-the-devil-in-charge-of-hell

To all this fools blaming religeon .

European Union is built based on the their religeous believe of the tower of babel.


We get a hint as to who is ultimately
behind the EU when we look at the story
surrounding the creation of its flag.
"On December 8, 1955, on the Catholic
'Feast of The Immaculate Conception of
Mary Our Co-redeemer,' the European
Ministers’ delegates officially adopted the
European flag, twelve stars on a blue
background. It was designed by Arsene
Heitz who, today, is an octogenarian artist
in Strasbourg.
Recently Heitz revealed to a French
magazine the reason for his inspiration.
According to the artist, he thought of the
twelve stars in a circle on a blue
background, exactly the way it is
represented in traditional iconography of
this image of the Immaculate Conception.
A devotee of the Virgin Mary, Heitz never
misses praying a daily Rosary. Heitz noticed
the words of the Apocalypse, “And there
appeared a great wonder in Heaven; a
woman clothed with sun, and the moon
under her feet, and upon her head a crown
of twelve stars,” Revelation 12:1. As a
devout Catholic, he applies this to Mary,
whom Catholics worship

The European Union’s flag consists of
twelve stars, inspired by the halo of twelve
stars that appear around the Madonna in
Catholic pictures of her. And, that is how
a profoundly religious symbol came to be
the official European Union flag."

In fact the European parliament building
itself, in Strasbourg, France, is in the
shape of a tower that is also unfinished.
This is no accident, it is designed to be a
representation of the uncompleted Tower
of Babel. The European Union are certainly
not shy about associating themselves with
the symbolism of the Tower of Babel. In
2004 there was a project entitled the
'European Babel Tower'. On their own
website they stated that:
"The realisation of the aims of the project
was supported with the implementation of
European Language Portfolio in order to
enhance the process of the development of
a model European citizen."
Other occult symbols associated with the
EU include a statue of a woman riding a
bull, outside its office in Brussels. This is a
symbol that has been repeated on several
coins and stamps over the years. The
woman is said to be the pagan goddess
Europa and according to tradition the bull
is the god Zeus in disguise. In the story
Europa climbs on the back of the bull who
then plunges into the sea and rapes her.
Zeus then takes Europa to Crete where he
reveals his true identity. Zeus is really just
another name for Satan. In the Bible we
read that it is Pergamum where 'Satan has
his throne'. This would have been the Great
Altar of Pergamon which was dedicated to
the god Zeus. Understanding the true
nature of the European Union it seems
quite apt for it to be symbolised as Europe
itself being raped and seduced by Satan.

Further confirmation of Vatican involvement
in the creation of the EU can be found
in an article on the Catholic news agency
Zenit, entitled 'The Catholic Origins of the
European Union'. In it we read:
"The political leaders who founded the
ECSC were overwhelmingly Catholic:
Robert Schuman was intensely loyal to the
faith and affirmed publicly that papal
encyclicals 'define Catholic doctrine and
bind in conscience'. Konrad Adenauer and
Alcide de Gaspari [both devout Catholics]
were also particularly important. The coal
and steel plan was drawn up by an official,
Jean Monnet, who became the first man to
hold the office which is now called
President of the Commission. He was not a
committed Catholic but the essential
architecture for the institutions was already
being advocated by Schuman before
Monnet came to him with his own project."
As if to express the importance of this
involvement we find that Schuman,
Adenauer and de Gaspari are all in the
process of beatification.

All this can been confirmed on European Union website. so is EU religeous or not. are they also undeveloped. Quote me if u have high IQ and brains

WestAfricanGoon:
Notice how the people who started this nonsense have grown out of it..

Israel, Italy, Spain, UK

Meanwhile the people who followed suit are now claiming they know the will of god

Religion is a scam people! Stop being idiots..

One day you will look back and your worst regret will be how much time you spent praying to something that didn't exist.

Clown . U are so.... so ingnorant.
The same UK,Spain,Italy and other European nations that makeup EU.
The same EU that adopted the Tower of Babel as the foundation of its origin . go do some research and enlighten yourself before showing the world That u are ..........fill in the remaining

HighQue007:
all these countries have one thing in common and that is poverty and bad governance.


something is wrong somewhere..I guess religion is not good for us.

check in an ascending order n u know what I m talking about

Which of the religeon is not good 4 U?.
becos their are different kinds of religeon, and before the whiteMan came Africa had traditional religeon, that did us no good.

ooshinibos:
I think we Africans are using prayers for the wrong reasons and hence the little or no result in our country , you will never see a white man praying for God to help him provide electricity , built roads etc , God has already provided these raw materials in abundance and he expects to work on these raw material NOT pray over and that's why he give us a brain , prayer is not a replacement for laziness ( prayer is meant or was designed to fellowship with the creator and get wisdom to apply to life )..and most Africans are blatantly wicked and lack love for their fellow black man ...for example , how can a country producing oil still experience fuel scarcity after 50 plus years of independence , this is not a prayer issue ,it is sheer wickedness ( and cannot blame the white this time around ), it is a common sense issue that we can resolved in a couple of days if we are serious but we will rather pray over it and laze around the street looking for a miracle ..life is not processedlike this

Nice writeup . fools lack capacity to see that Our undevelopment is not religeon but our own wickedness.

ricsman:
tell them. those developed countries have being overtaken by advance technology that they have forgotten God that their forefathers served.... now enjoying what their forefathers has prayed for.

True bro. this Clowns lack brains. they are insinuating that This developed countries developed in this 2016 with low religeous population.forgeting that all the developed countries played so much role in spreading christainity. and have developed years back.

ANTONINEUTRON:
What is d difference btween religious and godly

Religious life is an outward life sytle to please man. while godly is a life style to please God and hence brings stability to ones self and people around them.

flamingREED:
After W.F Kumuyi preached in the UK house of Lords, guess what??

Thank God I strongly believe in God and work hard.

I thank Jesus.

Nothing will change the fact that sinners will burn in th'everlasting flame.

Lol....... true. but hell is not for Eternity.