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Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:32am On Feb 18, 2016
Psylas:
You can't prove your claims, people who read the bible commit the highest crime to humanity and most immoral.

Compare religious people or country to non religious
When you accuse christains pls specify or note that their are genuine bornagains christains who do the rght thing and live by bible standands and their are religeous people who cliam to be christains but commit most of the evils. so stop accusing christainity of been evil becos of few people.

secondly athesist Mao was responsible for the death of millions of chinese people. same atheists promote homosexuality,transgender,peodphile,rape,robbery, e.t.c
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:19am On Feb 18, 2016
oglalasioux:
Good point!

They brought it to deceive us. Now they are trying all they can to tell us it's all a joke but we won't listen.
U are ignorant and confused.
go and google about New World order and their satanic plans against christain religeon. you will understand why they are fighting it.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:16am On Feb 18, 2016
Psylas:
Your reasoning is zero!

I know if God ask you to kill person..... you will obey



Fuc.k God!
I laugh at U. the funny thing is u are neither for God or usefull to the devil. and u lack logic.
so it is right for you to pass judgement on God but .God is not allowed to do that.

well God can never ask any one to kill for him. people do it in the name of God does not make God responsible for it.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:08am On Feb 18, 2016
Psylas:
But you believe God came from nowhere then use sand abi na cement to create you
God was never created.
Romance › Re: Widow To Marry Her 23 Year Old Son For Whom She Is Already Six Months Pregnant by blueAgent(op): 6:55pm On Feb 17, 2016
I think the community should take them to a psychiatric hospital.
Romance › Re: Widow To Marry Her 23 Year Old Son For Whom She Is Already Six Months Pregnant by blueAgent(op): 6:51pm On Feb 17, 2016
Oma307:
If she is 40 yrs and the son is 23 yrs, how old was she when she gave birth to her son
she was 17years old.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 6:48pm On Feb 17, 2016
onyxo76:
i never doubted in existence of hell or heaven..read my posts well
Sorry bro ,i was not refering to U. i just used your qoute it was just an opinion not particularly about U.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 6:47pm On Feb 17, 2016
onyxo76:
i never doubted in existence of hell or heaven..read my posts well
Sorry ,i was not refering to U. i just used your qoute
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:47pm On Feb 17, 2016
seggzz:
Is your Bible God perfect?
Over 100000000000000000000000000000000000% perfect.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:44pm On Feb 17, 2016
seggzz:
I looked to science to answer questions on creation of humans and universe. I believe creation of human and the universe is muddled among evolution, abiogenesis and the big bang theory. If God is the creator of human I don't think that God is the God of your Bible. The same God can't just approve slavery and evil things on the people he created.
Let any
reasonable mind contemplate the alternatives for
a moment. Doesn't it take more faith to believe
that chance could produce life than it does to
believe infinite intelligence could produce it?
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:43pm On Feb 17, 2016
seggzz:
This your question is not a day question. It's not just a page write-up. Do you think your God created humans? Do you believe in gravity? Do you believe in evolution? I look to science to answer the questions of the universe. There was once a notion that we have only one planet and heaven is the cloud we see above. But today, science has made us know that there about ten planets and still searching..... We were no longer seeing the atmosphere again as heaven. Science are still in process of discovering things. Thank God for scientists who discovered Ebola cure. Many things that are beliefs before are proven wrong today. Can you believe metal can fly in the sky?
Spontaneous Generation
How does the evolutionist explain the existence
of that first one-celled animal from which all life
forms supposedly evolved? For many years the
medieval idea of spontaneous generation was the
accepted explanation. According to Webster,
spontaneous generation is "the generation of
living from nonliving matter … [it is taken] from
the belief, now abandoned, that organisms found
in putrid organic matter arose spontaneously
from it."
Simply stated, this means that under the proper
conditions of temperature, time, place, etc.,
decaying matter simply turns into organic life.
This simplistic idea dominated scientific thinking
until 1846, when Louis Pasteur completely
shattered the theory by his experiments. He
exposed the whole concept as utter foolishness.
Under controlled laboratory conditions, in a
semi-vacuum, no organic life ever emerged from
decaying, nonliving matter. Reluctantly it was
abandoned as a valid scientific issue. Today no
reputable scientist tries to defend it on a
demonstrable basis. That is why Webster says it
is "now abandoned." It never has been and never
can be demonstrated in the test tube. No present
process is observed that could support the idea
of spontaneous generation. Obviously, if
spontaneous generation actually did take place in
the distant past to produce the first spark of life,
it must be assumed that the laws that govern life
had to be completely different from what they are
now. But wait a minute! This won't work either,
because the whole evolutionary theory rests upon
the assumption that conditions on the earth have
remained uniform throughout the ages.
Do you begin to see the dilemma of the
evolutionists in explaining that first amoeba, or
monad, or whatever formed the first cell of life? If
it sprang up spontaneously from no previous life,
it contradicts a basic law of nature that forms the
foundation of the entire theory. Yet, without
believing in spontane¬ous generation, the
evolutionist would have to acknowledge
something other than natural forces at work—in
other words, God. How do they get around this
dilemma?
Dr. George Wald, Nobel Prize winner of Harvard
University, states it as cryptically and honestly as
an evolutionist can:
"One has only to contemplate the magnitude
of this task to concede that the spontaneous
generation of a living organism is
impossible. Yet here we are—as a result, I
believe, of spontaneous generation."
Scientific American, August 1954.
That statement by Dr. Wald demonstrates a much
greater faith than a religious creationist can
muster. Notice that the great evolutionary
scientist says it could not have happened. It was
impossible. Yet he believes it did happen. What
can we say to that kind of faith? At least the
creationist believes that God was able to speak
life into existence. His is not a blind faith in
something that he concedes to be impossible.
So here we are, face to face with the first
contradiction of evolution with a basic law of
science. In order to sustain his humanistic
explanation of the origin of life, he must accept
the exploded, unscientific theory of spontaneous
generation. And the big question is this: Why is
he so violently opposed to the spontaneous
generation spoken of in the Bible? A miracle of
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:41pm On Feb 17, 2016
Chukzyfcb:
I told yu to summarize and you craftily dodged the questions. Perhaps , its because you have no concrete answer. How does metal flying or discovering more planets contradict what's in the bible. Or were you told metals flew In the bible? Bring up relevant points to buttress your liberal thoughts. OGA, HOW WAS HUMAN CREATED, SIMPLE QUESSTION!!! #write a 3line sentence to explain the Creation of man, stop beating around the bush!
guy free this clown. Lol...atheist are just fools. no1 rule only a living thing can ever create another living thing. so tell me how evolution or science will just make man. tell me how a stone will become man .
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:36pm On Feb 17, 2016
shumuel:
kikiki Lol grin i laugh at both of you in chinese, so you don't believe in Hell ? SMH you go to sleep and wakes up to the heat & ray of the Sun and you are still asking for proof, do you mean the God who created the Sun can't create Hell ?

Brothers if you don't believe, then take the Sun as the dreded 'Hell fire' its a perfect example.
Lol..bros atheism is the closest thing to Autism .
they are just illogical beings
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:33pm On Feb 17, 2016
seggzz:
For your information, I'm not an atheist, I'm a free thinker. I believe there is a creator but not the one in religion.

The God in your religion is too wicked to follow. He wants to roast people on fire. He kills and asked people not to kill; He lies and asked people not to lie and many others.

Why is faith only the requirements to enter heaven and not laws?
U are a proper fool. If men with power could do all this evil in this world without been questioned by U. how much more God Almighty who made U without requesting for ur opinion. secondly what lie did God Lie.?
so if governments can fight wars and kill. so God who owns everything including humans can not kill when he pleases. faith is only a demonstration of your alligenance to GOD . the bible says faith without Works is dead. you cannot say you have faith and still disobey God's moral laws. their are laws and they require faith in GOD for you to live properly by that law.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:26pm On Feb 17, 2016
seggzz:
You got it wrong by saying there is hell fire? God created humans as you believe and that same God want to roast them on fire. Is that God fair enough? Can you yourself roast your son on fire because he lied? How come the all mercy God want to roast sinners on fire?

Did you just call devil? Who is the creator of free will? Why must you punish someone for doing what you wanted. You wanted free will in men and you still punish them, ehn?
But Humans burn and kill their fellow humans willingly. so God will not judge such people.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:17pm On Feb 17, 2016
seggzz:
Are you righteous? From what I know all are sinners? I'm sure you don't obey the law of Moses. Therefore you will end up a sinner when you die. Book of leviticus chapter 19 made me know that all Christians are sinners. Do you eat meat? Barb your hair? What of wearing fabrics clothes? And many more.

So to your points now, if you find out there is hell and God, you would be more punish than the others. This is because you know the law and you can't follow it. You will surely die as sinner because no humans can obey all that laws.
Lies. their are people serving GOD faithfully stop decieving Yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:16pm On Feb 17, 2016
freecocoa:
What's there to do? Even if there's hell, I'm not going there because I haven't done anything to deserve it and yes, I don't believe in God.
Idiot this world u came into was it by ur chioce.? so you think u also have a say on who will go to hell and by what means.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:09pm On Feb 17, 2016
onyxo76:
no problem , we will know if hell exists when the time comes, only that the time to escape will no longer be there..
the same way people doubted AIDS till it killed many people. HELL is real. stop decieving yourself
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:08pm On Feb 17, 2016
onyxo76:
no problem , we will know if hell exists when the time comes, only that the time to escape will no longer be there..
the same way people doubted AIDS till it killed many people. HELL is real. stop decieving yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:07pm On Feb 17, 2016
Psylas:
the Bible is outdated and trash
That same bible have changed the lives of murderers,rapists,thieves,fraudesters, occultists ,prositutes,criminals, name it. into good people . which your science,newspaper,harry porter book ,magazines could not do.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:02pm On Feb 17, 2016
chiddyok:
So a so called 'loving' God, would roast his children for eternity?... Which imperfect sane father would burn his child's hand for stealing from him? God is love, or so the Christian holy book says.
Hell fire is real. and not for eternity as people miss interpret it.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 5:01pm On Feb 17, 2016
oglalasioux:
Wrong.

They are blessed because they know their destiny is in their hard work and not at the benevolence of a selective god like the god of Christianity and Islam. They are blessed because they know religion is a fraud. Hell fire is nothing but a tool to make you obey without question.
but they brought that same religeon to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 4:53pm On Feb 17, 2016
OneManLegion:
First off, your point is moot because assuming the events you mentioned doesn't vindicate your faith or make the claims therein plausible. It sure as hell doesn't clear off the inconsistencies in your bible.
By the way, your claims that Christianity was a persecuted religion is a big fat lie. Since the modern days, Christianity has been the one doling out the torture and deaths. It's only the bible that the supposed persecution is recorded.

You are the joker. An ignorant joker.
Oya, start mentioning the times Christianity was attacked by elites, or were killed by atheists for refusing to abandon their faith.

You can't come up with any because there's none.
I will tell you when Christianity perpetrated atrocities against non-Christians on account of their faith(or as the Christians saw it, lack of faith). Go and read on the Spanish inquisitions. Go and read about the atrocities of the catholic church in Victorian-age England. Heck, read about the reign of Bloody Mary, who roasted hundreds of Protestants alive.

Don't forget that the people that enslaved your great-grandfather's cousins were Christians too. Oh, you didn't forget? Cool, just wanted to remind you.

Now who is gullible?

P.S if you communicate your disagreements with me rudely again, I'll maul your insolent ass here.
The more U argue the more you show ur ingnorance.
go and google about origin of protestant churchs and the dark ages. the catholic church is part of the elite. the mystrious Babaylon. people like U are far lost than i taught. God u no dey. satan self no know U. go and read about what i asked u to do. learner.
Romance › Widow To Marry Her 23 Year Old Son For Whom She Is Already Six Months Pregnant by blueAgent(op): 4:51pm On Feb 17, 2016
ZIMBABWEAN woman Betty Mbereko is set to marry her 23 year old son Farai for whom she is already six months pregnant in what is the country's first such case incest to the chagrin of local community elders. Mrs Mbereko, 40, from Mwenezi in Masvingo Province in southeastern Zimbabwe, claims she and her son are in love with each other and now want to formalise their relationship. She has been a widow for the past 12 years and has been living with her 23-year-old son Farai Mbereko since then. Shunning local protests, Mrs Mbereko, who confirmed that she is six month pregnant, said she has decided it is better to marry her son because she does not want to marry her late husband’s younger brothers, whom she says are coveting her. Last week, she stunned a village court when she said the affair with her son had begun three years ago. She said after spending a lot of money sending Farai to school following the death of her husband, she felt she had a right to his money and no other woman was entitled to it. Farai added that he was more than prepared to marry his mother and would pay off the ilobola bride price balance his father had left unpaid to his grandparents. Betty told the village court council: “Look, I strove alone to send my son to school and no one helped me. Now you see that my son is working and you accuse me of doing something wrong, so please let me enjoy the products of my sweat.” Farai added: “I know my father died before he finished paying the bride price and I am prepared to pay it off. It is better to publicise what is happening because people should know that I am the one who made my mother pregnant, otherwise they will accuse her of promiscuity.” Local village head Nathan Muputirwa said, however: “We cannot allow this to happen in our village, as it is a bad omen. In the past they would have to be killed but today we cannot do it because we are afraid of the police.”
Wonders shall never end.

Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 4:50pm On Feb 17, 2016
OneManLegion:
You're irritating me with your logic, or should I say, the conspicuous lack thereof.
What exactly do you mean by your statement above?
You better stop hounding me and quoting me before I troll you mercilessly.
I know English is not even your 3rd language. i rest my xase
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 4:46pm On Feb 17, 2016
CaroLyner:
yes christianity came from there no doubt but i once lived in the uk & more than half of their citizens dont attend churches.so stuff that.
that does not make them athesist
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:55am On Feb 17, 2016
OneManLegion:
Their countries are not "blessed". They just happen to take tax-payments seriously plus, they hold their leaders accountable.
Lie ,they are materially and mentally blessed. simple
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:46am On Feb 17, 2016
e fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away." Psalm 37:20. "For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be." Verse 10. The most powerful, definitive words in human language are used to describe the destruction in hell, but people still insist that the writers do not really mean what their words express. "Destroy," "consume," "burn up," "devour," "death"-do these words have some mysterious, opposite meaning in the Bible than they have in other books? We have no reason to think so. The fact is that theology has made an ogre out of our great God of love. He has been portrayed as more cruel than Hitler. Even though Hitler tortured people and experimented with them, finally he allowed them to die. But God will keep these deathless souls alive for the purpose of seeing them writhe and scream throughout eternity, so the theologians claim. God's Justice Vindicated Not only is such a picture misrepresentative of God's love, it also distorts His justice. Think for a moment about the implications of a doctrine that would consign every lost soul to an immediate, never-ending hell at the time of death. Suppose a man died 5,000 years ago with one cherished sin in his life. His soul would go instantly into the fire to be tormented for eternity. Then picture another death; that of Adolph Hitler, who supervised the deaths of millions of people. According to the popular doctrine, his soul also would immediately enter hell to suffer eternally. But the man who was lost because of only one sin, will burn 5,000 years longer than Hitler. How could that be just? Would God deal in such a manner? It would contradict the Bible statement that each one must be punished according to his works. There are two extreme views in current circulation concerning the punishment of the wicked. One is Universalism, which contends that God is too good to allow anyone to be lost. The other is the awful doctrine of endless torment which would perpetuate for all eternity a dark abyss of anguish and suffering. Both are wrong. The truth lies in between. God will punish the wicked according to their works, but He will not immortalize evil in the process. I truly believe that many honest souls have been turned away from God because of their revulsion at this misrepresentation of His character. They can't love someone who would arbitrarily keep evil people in endless torment with no purpose in view. No rehabilitation is possible. Only a vindictive spirit of revenge could be served by such an unspeakable arrangement. Is God like that? After hearing the Bible truth about hell, a bank president threw his arms around my shoulders and said, "Joe, I'm a believer again. For years I've been an agnostic because I had been taught that God would torture the wicked eternally." No More Pain Or Death Someday soon God will have a clean universe. All the effects of sin will be banished forever. There will be no sin, no sinners and no devil to tempt. It will be just exactly like God planned it in the beginning. John described that future home in these words, "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Revelation 21:4. Can you find any room in those precious words for any suffering on the part of anybody in the whole recreated universe? God said crying and pain would be no more. Do you believe His Word or do you choose to believe man's surmising? Just four verses before writing this promise, John described how the wicked would be cast into the lake of fire. "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away." Revelation 20:15; 21:1. That lake of fire is right here on planet earth according to Revelation 20:9. But please notice that this place where the wicked burn will pass away, and God will re-create the new earth in its stead. The new Jerusalem descends before that fire devours the wicked, and afterwards, according to verse 4, there will be no more sorrow, pain, crying, or death. In order for no more pain to exist, there can be no eternal hell existing either. The two things are mutually exclusive of each other. We should thank God every day that His plan will finally bring an end to suffering. Satan will not be here to cause pain, and God promises that His new kingdom will not even contain a shadow of a pain. Hell Not Intended For Us Finally, we should rejoice that hell was never intended for you and me. Jesus said it was "prepared for the devil and his angels." Matthew 25:41. If we stumble into that fire, it will be the most colossal blunder we could ever make. You would have to go there over the broken body of Jesus Christ and in spite of the Father's love, the Holy Spirit's pleading, and the heavenly influence of a million angels. The most unanswerable question in the whole world is this: "How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?" There is no answer because there is no escape except through Christ and His cross. No one will be lost because he sinned, because everyone has sinned. No one will be left out of heaven because he lied, stole, or committed adultery. The only reason anyone will be lost is because he refuses to turn away from his sin into the arms of a loving Saviour who stands ready to pardon and cleanse from all unrighteousness. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:39am On Feb 17, 2016
OneManLegion:
It's not hard to see why you need me to prove the existence of brains to you...you obviously don't have any.
Someone may raise this question: What about the
unquenchable fire that burns the wicked? Doesn't
that mean it will never go out? Of course, it
doesn't. To quench means to extinguish or put
out. No one will be able to put out the fire of hell.
That is the strange fire of God. No one will be
able to escape from it by extinguishing it. Isaiah
says of that fire, "Behold, they shall be as
stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not
deliver themselves from the power of the flame:
there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor a fire to
sit before it." Isaiah 47:14. After it has
accomplished its work of destruction, that fire
will go out. No one can deliver themselves from
its flame by putting it out, but finally not a coal
will be left. So say the Scriptures.
Jeremiah prophesied that Jerusalem would burn
with a fire that could not be quenched ( Jeremiah
17:27), but it burned down to ashes (2
Chronicles 36:19-21). Read those verses and see
how the Bible uses the word "quench." It does
not mean fire that will never go out. It only means
what it says, "unquenchable." It can't be
quenched.
And what can we say about the expressions
"eternal" "everlasting" which are used to describe
the fires of hell? There is absolutely no confusion
or contradiction when we allow the Bible to
supply its own definition of terms. Many make
the mistake of applying modern definitions to
those biblical words without reference to their an-
cient contextual usage. This violates one of the
most fundamental rules of interpretation.
The fact is that eternal fire does not mean a fire
that will never go out. The same expression is
used in Jude 7 concerning the destruction of
Sodom and Gomorrha. "Even as Sodom and
Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like
manner, giving themselves over to fornication,
and going after strange flesh, are set forth as an
example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
It is quite obvious that Sodom is not still burning
today. The Dead Sea rolls over the place where
those ancient cities once stood. Yet they burned
with "eternal fire," and we are told that it was an
example of something. What is it an example of?
"And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha
into ashes condemned them with an overthrow,
making them an ensample unto those that after
should live ungodly." 2 Peter 2:6.
There it is! That eternal fire which brought Sodom
to ashes is an example of what will finally happen
to the wicked. If this text is true, the same kind of
fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrha will
also burn the wicked in the lake of fire. It will
have to be eternal fire. Does that mean it will also
burn the wicked to ashes? The Bible says Yes.
"For behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an
oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do
wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that
cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of
hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor
branch ... And ye shall tread down the wicked; for
they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in
the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of
hosts." Malachi 4:1, 3.
No words of any language could make it more
forceful or clear. This eternal fire burns up
eternally. Even Satan, the root, is finally
consumed. How consistent the whole picture
appears as we let the Bible explain its own terms.
What devious manipulation of words would be
required to evade the obvious meaning of these
words. Yet those who have been prejudiced by a
lifetime of tradition can read those words "burn
them up ... they shall be ashes" and still insist
that the wicked are alive and suffering.
Admittedly, there are some ambiguous verses on
this subject, but we are finding that they all
harmonize when the context is considered, and
the Bible is allowed to be its own commentary.
Even Christ's words in Matthew 25:46 are not
confusing when we the obvious meaning. "And
these shall go away into everlasting punishment:
but the righteous into life eternal." Many are
troubled over the expression, "everlasting
punishment," but notice that it does not say
"everlasting punishing." Whatever the
punishment is, it will last eternally. Does the
Bible tell us what the punishment is? Of course.
"The wages of sin is death." Romans 6:23. So
Jesus was simply saying that the death would be
everlasting. It would never end. It would never be
broken by a resurrection.
Paul simplifies it further with these words: "In
flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know
not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord
Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished ... " Now,
listen, Paul is going to tell us what the
punishment is. "Who shall be punished with
everlasting destruction from the presence of the
Lord, and from the glory of his power." 2
Thessalonians 1:8, 9. So the punishment is
everlasting destruction - a destruction that is
everlasting. From it there will be no resurrection
or hope of life.
But what about that worm which dieth not? Many
have read the words of Jesus about hell, "Where
their worm dieth not and the fire is not
quenched." Mark 9:45, 46. Some have interpreted
the worm to be the soul. Is that what Jesus
meant? Nowhere in the Bible is there any allusion
to the soul as a worm.
In this instance Jesus used the word "Gehenna"
for the word "hell." It so happened that Gehenna
was an actual place of burning just outside the
walls of Jerusalem. No doubt, Christ's listeners
could see the smoke curling up from the Valley of
Gehenna, where dead bodies and garbage were
constantly being burned. If anything fell outside
the destructive flames, it was quickly consumed
by maggots or worms. With the vivid scenes of
utter extinction before their eyes, Jesus used the
Gehenna fire as an example of the complete
destruction of hell-fire. The fire was never
quenched, and the worms were constantly at
work upon the bodies-a picture of total
destruction.
Perhaps the most easily misconstrued text about
hell is John's allusion to the smoke ascending
"for ever and ever." For those who are unfamiliar
with other uses of this phrase in the Bible, it can
be very confusing indeed. But a comparison of
verses in both Old and New Testaments reveal
that the words "for ever" are used 57 times in the
Bible in reference to something that has already
come to an end. In other words, "for ever" does
not always mean "without end."
Many notable examples could be cited, but two
or three are noteworthy. In Exodus 21, the
conditions are laid down concerning the law of
servitude. If a servant chose to continue serving
the master he loved rather than his freedom when
it came due, then his ear was to be pierced with
an awl and the Scripture declares, "He shall serve
him for ever." Verse 6. But how long would that
servant serve his human master? Only as long as
he lived, of course. So the words "for ever" did
not mean without end. Hannah took her son
Samuel to God's temple, where he would "there
abide for ever." 1 Samuel 1:22. Yet in verse 28 we
are plainly told, "As long as he liveth he shall be
lent to the Lord." The original meaning of the
term "for ever" indicates an indefinite period of
time. Generally it defines the period of time in
which something can continue to exist under the
circumstances prevailing. Even Jonah's stay in the
whale's belly is described by him as "for ever."
Jonah 2:6.
Someone may object that this could also limit the
life of the righteous in heaven, because they are
described as glorifying God forever. The terms
are the same for both the saved and the lost. But
there is one tremendous difference in the
circumstances involved. The saints have received
the gift of immortality. Their life now measures
with the life of God. Immortality means "not
subject to death." The words "for ever" used in
reference to them could only mean "without end,"
because they are immortal subjects already. But
when "for ever" is used to describe the wicked,
we are talking about mortal creatures who can die
and must die. Their "for ever" is only as long as
their mortal nature can survive in the fire which
punishes them according to their works.
Soul and Body Destroyed
This brings us to the final fact concerning the fate
of the wicked. After the unsaved are punished
according to their sins, they will be wiped out of
existence, both body and soul. Jesus states it
very simply, "And fear not them which kill the
body ... but rather fear him which is able to
destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew
10:28.
In the light of this statement, how can anyone
continue to claim immortality for the wicked?
Jesus, the only One who can bestow the gift of
life, rejects the possibility that those in hell can
continue to live in any form whatsoever. The life
will be snuffed out for eternity, and the body will
be annihilated in the flames.
The psalmist wrote: "But the wicked shall perish,
and the enemies of the Lord shall be as the fat
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:38am On Feb 17, 2016
CaroLyner:
funny how whites arent religious yet most of their countries are so blessed
You are confused. who said they are not religeous. who brought christanity to you?
where did protestant reformation take place Germany. headquarters of Roman catolihic church is in Rome Itlaly. for US we all know that they were founded by protestants fleeing persection in Europe.UK played so much role in translation of the bible . and so on. virtually all Europe country has a strong religeous foundation . even till date. forget all this propanganda bullshit you are made to believe.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:29am On Feb 17, 2016
Ramon92:
I know the Spiritual realm is real, but prove that hell is real...
Location of Hell
The Bible clearly asserts that this fire devours the
wicked right here on "the breadth of the earth."
Every Bible writer who speaks on the subject of
hell adds new insight on this second death of the
wicked. Peter states: "But the heavens and the
earth, which are now, by the same word are kept
in store, reserved unto fire against the day of
judgment and perdition of ungodly men." 2 Peter
3:7. Then he goes on to describe the day of the
Lord which will melt the very elements with
fervent heat.
The language of Peter is very explicit about the
place of punishment for the un- godly. He says
this earth is reserved for that fire which will bring
judgment and perdition to the wicked. Their
punishment will be in this earth. Isaiah declared,
"For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the
year of recompenses for the controversy of Zion.
And the streams thereof shall be turned into
brimstone, and the land thereof shall become
burning pitch." Isaiah 34:8, 9.
The prophet portrays the entire planet enveloped
in the destroying fire. Even the streams and dust
are transformed into an exploding combustion of
pitch and brimstone. Isaiah says this is God's
vengeance and "recompense" at the end of the
controversy.
David adds to the testimony with these words,
"Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire, and
brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be
the portion of their cup." Psalm 11:6. Notice that
he uses almost the same words as John and Peter
in describing the fate of the wicked. All agree as
to the place of the punishment (the earth) and the
agent of punishment (fire).
This brings us to the third great fact about the
subject of hell. Hell as a place of punishment will
be this earth turned into a lake of fire at the Day
of Judgment. But this also raises some other very
interesting questions about the fate of the lost.
One of the most intriguing and puzzling has to do
with the length of punishment. How long will the
wicked continue to live and suffer in that fire?
No one can answer that question precisely
because the Bible says they will be punished
according to their works. This means there will be
degrees of punishment. Some will suffer longer
than others. But one thing we can say with
certainty-the wicked won't live in that fire
throughout eternity.
Hell-Fire Not Endless
There are several reasons for being so sure on
this point. First of all, this earth is also declared
to be the final home for the righteous. Jesus said,
"Blessed are the meek: For they shall inherit the
earth." Matthew 5:5. Peter, after describing this
earth exploding and burning with a great noise,
saw a new earth filled with righteousness.
"Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look
for new heavens and a new earth, wherein
dwelleth righteousness." 2 Peter 3:13.
The wicked cannot continue to live in this planet
because it has been specifically promised, in its
entirety, to Abraham's spiritual seed ( Romans
4:13). After being purged of all the curse of sin, it
will revert to the first dominion, and to God's
original plan for it. It will be finally what God
intended it to be-a perfect home for a perfect
people.
In the second place, the wicked cannot continue
to live in this earth because they have never
trusted Christ for eternal life. It is only the
righteous who receive the gift of eternal life. "For
God so loved the world, that he gave his only
begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him
should not perish. ..." John 3:16. But what about
those who don't believe in him? They surely will
perish. The Bible says, "The wages of sin is
death." Romans 6:23. Please don't miss the
pointed simplicity of these verses. The wicked are
never promised life. They are promised death-
eternal death. Only the righteous are promised
life-eternal life.
But there is only one way to get life without end,
and that is through faith in Jesus. John describes
it this way: "And this is the record, that God hath
given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath
not the Son of God hath not life." 1 John 5:11,
12. Let me ask you a question: Do those wicked
ones in the lake of fire have the Son of God? Of
course not. Then how could they have life? John
says, "Ye know that no murderer hath eternal life
abiding in him." 1 John 3:15. Will those
murderers in hell-fire continue to have life for
eternity? Never.
It would be the rankest heresy to believe that
eternal life could be obtained from some other
source than Jesus. Where would the wicked get it?
Paul declares that Jesus Christ "hath brought life
and immortality to light through the gospel." 2
Timothy 1:10. Inspiration reveals no other source
of immortality except through the gospel of
Christ. Where is a text in the Bible which
describes the conferring of immortality upon the
wicked? You can read often about the righteous
receiving it, but never the unbeliever.
Paul said, "Behold I shew you a mystery; We shall
not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a
moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last
trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead
shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be
changed. For this corruptible must put on
incorruption, and this mortal must put on
immortality." 1 Corinthians 15:51-53.
This text speaks of a certain point in time when
the righteous will be instantly changed into
immortal beings. That time is still future. It
occurs when Jesus returns, at the last trumpet
sound, when the resurrection takes place.
Nowhere in the Bible do we read of the wicked
being changed in this manner. And it is precisely
because they never receive this gift of eternal life
that they are unable to keep living in the lake of
fire.
It is inconceivable and unreasonable to fabricate
such an event. It is contrary to the Bible and
repugnant to the senses. Ezekiel declared, "The
soul that sinneth, it shall die." Ezekiel 18:4. No
matter what we understand a soul to be, let's
accept the simple Bible fact that it can die and
will die as a result of sin.
If the wicked live eternally in the fire, then they
have the same thing as the righteous except in a
different place. Who could give them eternal life
but Christ? John 3:16 settles this issue so clearly
and simply. Those who do not believe in the only
begotten Son will perish. They will die. They will
die the second death-an eternal death from which
they will never be raised. That death will never
end. It is an endless, eternal punishment,
because it is an endless, eternal death.
Unquenchable Fire
Christianity Etc › Re: This Lady Claims She Is Going To Hell Fire And So Proud Of It ( Photos ) by blueAgent(m): 9:27am On Feb 17, 2016
OneManLegion:
There's no such thing as hell.

Religion is a grand scam. The grandest scam ever.

They use two powerful human emotions to control humans: hope and fear.

Hope as exemplified by heaven/paradise(a utopia for folks who adhere strictly to their tenets and dogmas). And;

Fear, as exemplified by Hell(a place of unimaginable eternal torment for folks who refuse to adhere to their tenets and dogmas.)


Seriously, humans should have seen through the big lie that is religion by now.
U are a joker.


You are gullible yourself. if Hell fire is a fragment of imagination. why are the same people who brought the message of Hell. now saying it is not real. if christanity is a method of control. why did millions of christains die or were killed for not abandoning the faith in Europe during the dark ages.by the same people you cliam formed christanity. as a control tool.
why were the elites dertermined to destory the bible if it was their control tool for the masses?.
any way not all people that have head make use of it.

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