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Sunky200:
Pain state allocation is not being withheld , but local government allocation is and that is because of the governor refusal to give the local government sovereignty

Sunky200:
This is a cheap political point, Bode George didn’t do his homework well, even the aforementioned persons will distance themselves from this claims.
For the benefits of doubt I expect dancing governor to substantiate this claim

The National Chairman of the All Progressives Congress, Prof. Nentawe Yilwatda, has lost his mother, Mama Lydia Yilwatda.

She died on Sunday morning at the Jos University Teaching Hospital, aged 83.

The party’s State Publicity Secretary, Shittu Bamaiyi, confirmed her passing in a statement issued in Jos.

He described the late Mama Lydia as a devoted Christian, a virtuous woman leader, and a pillar of the Church of Christ in Nations.


“The All Progressives in Plateau State received with shock the sad news of the death of the mother of its National Chairman, Mama Lydia Yilwatda.

“According to family sources, she passed on this morning at the Jos University Teaching Hospital at the age of 83 years.

“Her death is not only a personal loss to the National Chairman, but the entire APC family in Plateau State and the Country at large,” the statement read.

It added that Mama Lydia, alongside her late husband, Reverend Toma Goshewe Yilwatda, contributed immensely to the growth of the church in Borno, Yobe, Bauchi, and Plateau states.

The statement added, “There is no doubt that the late Mama’s death is painful and devastating to the Yilwatdas, because she died at the time her motherly advice and prayers were most needed, particularly to the National Chairman Professor Yilwatda.

“The consoling record is that the deceased left behind an indelible and accomplished legacy, which is manifested in her children.

“Surely her demise is a great loss to the Church and the Women’s fellowship as well as Plateau State.

While sharing with Professor Yilwatda in his moment of grief, the Party prays God to grant the late Mama’s Soul an eternal rest.

The Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) in Kaduna says the N25.9 million cash seized from one of its members during Saturday’s by-election was meant for the welfare of 5,000 party agents.

On Saturday, police officers arrested one Shehu Aliyu Patangi with about N25,963,000 at a popular hotel located along Turunku Road in Kaduna metropolis.


The police alleged that the seized cash was set aside to induce voters during the polls.

By-elections took place on Saturday in three constituencies in Kaduna — Chikun/Kajuru federal constituency, Basawa state constituency, and Zaria/Kewaye state constituency.

Speaking at a press conference, Edward Masha, Kaduna PDP chairman, said the N25.9 million was not meant for vote buying as alleged by the police.

Masha said PDP mobilised over 6,000 agents across the three constituencies for the by-election, adding that the funds were meant for the welfare of the agents and supervisors.

“Let me make it clear that money was for election logistics,” he said.

“We have 169 polling units. We have party agents, supervisors, and collation officers across the three constituencies. Even if you give them N3,000 each, it is over N30 million.

“That is the reality. To now turn around and say it was for vote buying is mischievous and an insult to the intelligence of Nigerians.”

The Kaduna PDP chairman alleged that the party has been the target of harassment by security operatives “at the behest of the Kaduna state government”.

He alleged that the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) is weaponising state institutions to intimidate the opposition.


Masha said security operatives on Friday raided the campaign council office of Esther Ashivelli Dawaki, PDP candidate for the Chikun/Kajuru federal constituency.

He alleged that party officials, including the state publicity secretary, zonal chairman, youth leader, women leaders, and over 18 others, were whisked away during the raid.

The Omoluabi Progressives has raised alarm over an alleged coordinated attempt to eliminate former Minister of Interior and ex-governor of Osun State, Rauf Aregbesola.

In a statement signed by its spokesperson and organising secretary, Oluwaseun Abosede and obtained by DAILY POST on Sunday, the group said recent incidents point to a political and physical campaign to silence the former Minister.

The organisation alleged that inflammatory remarks, veiled threats and state-backed actions, had combined to fuel suspicion of a wider agenda against Aregbesola.

“Taken together, these developments raise genuine fears that a sinister agenda is being orchestrated to silence him permanently under the guise of politics,” the statement read.

According to the group, “Yoruba Nation agitator, Sunday Igboho, made a declaration at a rally on July 23, 2025, interpreted as a call for violence. He reportedly stated in Yoruba, ‘Ilẹ o mú wọn’ meaning ‘the land will consume them’, a phrase the group said was directed at Aregbesola.”

The statement also cited a social media post on August 2, 2025, in which journalist, Mayor Akinpelu wrote that “no man could repay good with evil and get away with it.”

The group noted that the article, amplified by Presidential spokesman, Bayo Onanuga, suggested dire consequences for Aregbesola.

The Omoluabi Progressives, which said such rhetoric amounted to incitement to violence, added that tension arose on August 14, 2025, when a journalist, Gbonka Ebiri allegedly described Aregbesola as a sell-out and called for him to face the wrath of Yorubaland.

On the same day, the group alleged, “police operatives with an Armoured Personnel Carrier disrupted an African Democratic Congress rally in Sagamu, Ogun State.

“The event was scheduled to be addressed by Aregbesola in support of Hon. Solomon Oluwaseyi Osho, candidate in the House of Representatives bye-election.

“The venue was reportedly vandalised, equipment seized and Aregbesola prevented from attending the event.”

The group said police attempts to downplay the disruption only deepened suspicion of political interference.

Omoluabi Progressives described the pattern of rhetoric and physical obstruction as the anatomy of assassination politics and called for urgent action to ensure the safety of the former governor.

The group aligned itself with the Coalition of Oodua Self-Determination Groups, which condemned the threats through its chairman, Dayo Ogunlana who said that, “Yoruba politics must not descend into intimidation and violence.”

The statement, while highlighting Aregbesola’s contributions to Yoruba society, cited his reconciliation efforts within the Oodua People’s Congress, OPC, and his developmental projects in Osun and Lagos States.

It stressed that Aregbesola had committed no offence in pursuing an independent political path and that his constitutional rights must be respected.

The Omoluabi Progressives also warned that any attempt to harm Aregbesola would be resisted.

The group urged Nigerians to take note of remarks by appointees and supporters of President Bola Tinubu and called on security agencies to act decisively.

“The safety, dignity, and political rights of Yoruba leaders must not be sacrificed on the altar of opportunism.

“Any further escalation of threats could endanger Aregbesola and undermine peace in Yorubaland,” it concluded.

WizardOfNG:
@OP.

It is you and your kinsmen who needs to "look within" per your penchant for always rushing unobjectively and automatically to demarket your nation by supporting whatever/whoever wrongs her.

As I said when the first thread about this topic appeared, what the Canadian judge did is wrong and a judgement beyond his jurisdiction to reach. See below and especially note the position of International law.

I,ve stated it before that Nigeria merely needs to officially petion the AGF of Canada to get this nonsense repealed and the judge sanctioned.

A nation cannot declare the Political Parties of another Sovereign nation, to include her ruling Party that has produced her President or head of State, as terrorists.

Commonsense should tell you that the Canadian Government offically recognised the legitimacy of our democracy, Presidency and ruling Party.

This is why Canada is a diplomatic and trading partner with Nigeria to the extent our nation is the largest trading partner of Canada in Africa.

How can a judge within Canada then declare what the Canadian Government has not done and has no power to do?

The conduct of political parties of sovereign nation is their internal affairs in the eyes of International law.


It speaks volume, negatively, of you people from а certain ethnic group that at no stage at all do you feel compelled to defend Nigeria even when it is obvious she has been wronged.

Rather you rush to declare every illegality against her as valid and in order. Yet you want one of your one to be President of a nation you clearly hate. What a joke.

The Director-General of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, has urged President Bola Ahmed Tinubu to introduce social safety nets to protect vulnerable Nigerians from the harsh impact of ongoing economic reforms.

Speaking to State House correspondents after a meeting with the President on Thursday in Abuja, Okonjo-Iweala said both the federal government and the WTO had launched a Women Exporters Fund to empower Nigerian women and boost their economic participation.

Her comments come amid rising poverty levels and soaring inflation following the removal of fuel subsidies and the floating of the naira in 2023—two policies that have significantly increased living costs.


The World Bank had earlier projected that Nigeria’s poverty rate would rise by 3.6 percent over the next five years, citing structural challenges such as over-reliance on natural resources and national fragility.

According to its Africa’s Pulse report, resource-rich and fragile countries like Nigeria are likely to experience worsening poverty levels compared to non-resource-rich African countries.

Okonjo-Iweala acknowledged the government’s reform efforts, commending President Tinubu for stabilising the economy.

“You cannot really improve an economy unless it’s stable, so he has to be given credit for that.

“The reforms are in the right direction. What is needed next is growth—and alongside that, we must put in place social safety nets so those feeling the pinch can weather the hardship,” she said.

She said cushioning the effects of the reforms would require targeted support for the poorest Nigerians while creating jobs and increasing household incomes.

The WTO chief also highlighted the new Women Exporters Fund as part of these broader safety nets.

“With the help of the First Lady, we launched a fund to support women so they can weather economic storms, create jobs, and contribute more to the economy,” she said, noting that the initiative was spearheaded by the Minister of Trade and the Nigerian Export Promotion Council.

The Julius Abure-led faction of the Labour Party, LP, has described the presidential candidate of the party in the 2023 general elections, Peter Obi as an ‘Uber’ politician.


Abure said this in a statement he personally signed on Friday.

Abure slammed Obi, saying that he is now reputed to have elevated subterfuge in the game of politics and had of late been crying wolf where there was none.

According to him, Obi has booked a place for himself in the Guinness book of records as a person affiliated to many political parties pari pasu, all in his desperation to preside over Nigeria.

“It is unfortunate that Obi has turned himself to an irony and a paradox in the Nigeria political space.

“He has turned himself into “Uber” politician, not willing to take a position and stand by his decision,” he said


Abure said this in response to Obi’s directives ahead of the August 16 by-elections across the country.

DAILY POST recalls that Obi had asked his supporters to back the candidates of the African Democratic Congress, ADC, during the forthcoming by-elections across some states in the country.

Senator Oluremi Tinubu, the First lady, has empowered 500 women in Ondo State with a grant of N50,000 each, under the Renewed Hope Initiative’s (RHI) Economic Empowerment Programme in partnership with Tony Elumelu Foundation.

Disbursing the grant in Akure, the Ondo state capital, the first lady said that it was in continuation of the programme she recently launched in Niger state where she made a symbolic presentation of N50,000 to 50 women.

[b]Speaking through the wife of the Ondo state governor, Mrs. Oluwaseun Aiyedatiwa,Senator Tinubu, said the programme was to support 18,500 women entrepreneurs with business re-capitalisation grants across the 36 states including the Federal Capital Territory (FCT) with N50,000 each.

She said “This Economic Empowerment Programme is about supporting the entrepreneurial spirit of our women traders and small-scale business owners who wake up each day determined to provide for their families, educate their children, and uplift their communities

“Let me emphasize that this is not a loan. It is a grant and a seed of renewed hope to help you re-capitalize your existing businesses.

“It is my firm believe that when you empower a woman, you empower a household, a community, and indeed, a nation.

“I thank the Tony Elumelu Foundation, who donated One Billion Naira to the Renewed Hope Initiative, to directly support 18,500 women across the Nation.

“Five hundred women from each of the 36 states and the FCT will be receiving N50,000 each to strengthen and re-capitalize their existing small businesses.

The first lady lauded the governor of Ondo State, Lucky Aiyedatiwa and his wife, Esther Aiyedatiwa, for their support in executing all the programmes of the Renewed Hope Initiative (RHI).

Earlier in her remarks, the State Commissioner for Women Affairs, Dr Seun Osamaye advised the beneficiaries to make the First Lady and governor’s wife proud by improving their businesses.

Osamaye who is the Renewed Hope Initiative coordinator in the state said: It is not a loan but a seed grant from the Renewed Hope Initiative. We’ve never had this opportunity.

“This is happening to women under the leadership of Governor Lucky Aiyedatiwa and our mothers Mrs. Oluremi Tinubu and Esther Aiyedatiwa.We are immensely grateful for this gesture.

She promised to monitor the beneficiaries, across the 18 council areas of the state to ensure they use the grant judiciously.

The beneficiaries, thanked the wives of the president for the gesture and promised to use the grants to improve their businesses and livelihoods.[/b]

‘You don’t deserve to hold a public office - Mr Macaroni slams NIDCOM boss Abike Dabiri-Erewa over her tweet on KWAM1’s apology

Actor, Debo Adebayo aka Mr Macaroni, has slammed NIDCOM boss, Abike Dabiri-Erewa, over her tweet on singer, Wasiu Ayinde aka KWAM1.

Recall that an altercation ensued between the Fuji star and some employees of ValueJet at the Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport, Abuja, last Tuesday, after he was stopped from boarding a flight with a flask which they claimed contained alcohol.

The pilot of the aircraft, Captain Ranti Ogoyi also claimed KWAM1 spilled the contents of his flask on her after she approached him to settle the matter. The singer then tried to prevent the aircraft from flying without him as he stood in front of it.

In a video shared, KWAM1 is seen on the tarmac refusing to move away from the aircraft, potentially hindering its departure, and narrowly avoided being hit by the plane as it taxied.

Following his incident at the Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport and the public outcry, the Fuji music maestro was forced to tender an apology to President Tinubu, the captain of the flight, his fans and any other person that felt offended by his actions.

Ms Abike who is close friend of the singer, shared a video of him apologising and wrote ‘’Kwam1's apology on the airport incident. To err is human''

Many Nigerians felt her post was insensitive as it was not advocating for the singer to pay for the crime committed but that it be overlooked because of his apology.

Mr Macaroni took to his X handle to tackle Abike. He argued that by her tweet, Ms Abike has shown she doesn't deserve to hold a public office, adding that her Tweet means it is okay to commit a crime, issue an apology and absolve themselves without any consequences.

helinues:
Like I said to your colleagues above. Una 1000 can't stop Nigeria's progress.

Government initiate projects, you people will go against it, projects in progress, you must still find fault inside when you people are not witch

helinues:
What's your likes business with the Lagos - Calabar coastal highway. Did you support the project initially?

If the answer is No, isn't it anything to fault the projects your likes have been doing since.

Nigeria will be better , you all will witness it as all this bad Belle can never stop the progress

The African Democratic Congress on Tuesday accused the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission of singling out opposition figures for politically motivated investigations, alleging that the agency’s latest target is its Interim National Chairman and former Senate President, David Mark.

In a statement by its acting National Publicity Secretary, Bola Abdullahi, the ADC said the EFCC had embarked on a “choreographed media trial” against coalition leaders after the detention of former Sokoto State Governor, Aminu Tambuwal, on Monday and the invitation of former Imo State Governor, Emeka Ihedioha.

“The EFCC has now surreptitiously started excavating all the files from David Mark’s tenure as Senate President, 10 years after he left office,” Abdullahi said, questioning the timing of the investigations. “The pattern of ignoring APC stalwarts with fresher and well-documented cases, while targeting opposition figures with stale allegations, is proof of selective justice and an assault on political freedom.”

The party alleged that the crackdown was part of the ruling All Progressives Congress’ strategy to weaken the opposition coalition ahead of the 2027 general elections.


It urged Nigerians to demand an end to what it described as “witch-hunt disguised as anti-corruption.”

He said, “Following our earlier release on Monday, we wish to bring to the public’s attention fresh details that expose the extent of this coordinated assault on the opposition. The detention of one of our leaders, former Sokoto State Governor, Senator Aminu Tambuwal, has marked the start of the crackdown intended to intimidate key leaders of the opposition and discredit them through media trials.

“Rt. Hon. Emeka Ihedioha served as Governor of Imo State for just seven months, from May 29, 2019, until the Supreme Court removed him on January 14, 2020 — a full five years and seven months ago. We, therefore, wonder what makes investigating him suddenly urgent now.”

Abdullahi accused the EFCC of selective justice and an assault on political freedom, saying, “Having failed to stop the coalition, the jittery ruling party’s next move is to discredit its leaders by getting the EFCC to accuse them of looting the entire treasuries. These are calculated media trials; it matters little whether there is a basis for these accusations — the game is the circus show.”

Similarly, former Vice President Atiku Abubakar accused President Bola Tinubu of “objectifying the fight against corruption as a political tool to coerce opposition leaders into the ruling party.”

In a statement on his verified Facebook page on Tuesday, Atiku said, “The only reason the EFCC has detained the former Governor of Sokoto State, Senator Aminu Waziri Tambuwal, is because he is a member of the opposition coalition. It is a continuation of the Tinubu-led administration’s agenda to harass, intimidate, and decimate the opposition.”

Atiku accused Tinubu of abuse of power, saying, “It is as though today, anyone who associates with the opposition is a target for phantom corruption allegations, and as soon as they are coerced into the political agenda of President Tinubu, their ‘sins’ are forgiven. That is not how to fight the monster of corruption. Indeed, such tendencies provide the stimulant for corruption to thrive. While the genuine fight against corruption is a matter that requires the total support of all Nigerians, the objectification of it as a political agenda should be roundly condemned.”

Also, the Human Rights Writers Association of Nigeria critised the move against opposition politicians, describing the EFCC as “an obedient lapdog deployed to do the dirty political work of the ruling All Progressives Congress.”

In a statement on Tuesday, HURIWA National Coordinator, Emmanuel Onwubiko, said the move was intended to “break the spine of the opposition before the 2027 race.”

Onwubiko said, “Every discerning Nigerian can see the handwriting on the wall. The EFCC is no longer the fearless watchdog envisioned by law.”

EFCC, Presidency reject claims

Hoever, the EFCC dismissed the accusations as “self-serving, diversionary, narrow and idle.”

The EFCC Chairman, Ola Olukoyede, in a statement, said, “If I am not condemned for investigating both former and serving strong ruling party governors and ministers, I should not be condemned for also investigating opposition figures. Fraud is fraud. Corruption is corruption. There is no sacred cow, protected interest or partisan consideration in the investigation and prosecution of corruption.”

He added, “Available records in our courts show that several political figures from all divides are answering charges. It is also public knowledge that the EFCC is busy investigating some key figures of the ruling party owing to allegations of corrupt practices.”

Similarly, presidential aide, Bayo Onanuga, distanced President Tinubu from the probe of the opposition politicians.

Responding to questions by The PUNCH, Onanuga said, “We are not the EFCC, we represent the President here. We are not the EFCC, you can call the EFCC to find out whether they are weaponising any arrests or whatever. It’s not our business, so we can’t be seen to be defending them or supporting them.”

Afenifere disowns coalition

Meanwhile, pan-Yoruba socio-political organisation, Afenifere, denied reports linking it to the ADC-led coalition.

In a statement on Tuesday, the organisation’s National Publicity Secretary, Jare Ajayi, said, “Afenifere is not against any political group, but it is not in cahoots with any political party since it is non-partisan politically… Afenifere is for all the Yorubas… talking about coalition or no coalition is, therefore, a distraction that we cannot afford.”


Coalition woos youths

On Tuesday, the ADC promised to ensure greater inclusion of young Nigerians in its activities, programmes, and policies when it comes into power.

This assurance was given by the party’s Interim National Chairman, David Mark, and National Youth Leader, Balarabe Rufai, during its International Youth Day event held in Abuja on Tuesday.

IYD, observed annually on August 12, raises global awareness of youth-related issues while celebrating their potential as vital contributors to society.

The 2025 theme, “Local Youth Actions for the SDGs and Beyond,” underscores the critical role young people play in turning global goals into impactful, community-based initiatives.

Represented by coalition leader and former APC vice chairman (North-West), Salihu Lukman, Mark pledged ADC’s commitment to true democracy, rejecting imposition, favouritism, and unaccountable politics.

He stated, “We will uphold collective leadership at every level, ensuring every member has a voice. This is your party, truly owned by its members, without exception.

“Our grassroots structures will be revitalised to reflect modern realities. From polling units and wards to the national stage, every organ of our party will be re-energised for active participation.

“To our young people: ADC is your home. We are opening the doors for the next generation, not as a gesture, but as a commitment. Our policies, candidate selection, and leadership roles will ensure real inclusion of youths and women, not tokenism. That is why 35% of leadership positions are reserved for women, and leadership roles will include Nigerians under 40.

“Nigerians will know ADC as a party driven by clear ideology, progressive policies, and patriotic governance. We will not leave leadership direction to chance.”

Mark encouraged Nigerian youths to join the ADC, describing it as a focused, principled, and people-oriented coalition committed to delivering good governance for all.

“On this International Youth Day, I call on all Nigerians to join us. ADC is the party of equal opportunity, where age, gender, religion, or region are never barriers. Our handshake is extended to all—across every divide, because the future we build is one we build together, he added.

Earlier, Rufai stated that if Nigerian youths cannot transform their streets, they cannot transform the nation, warning that without changing Nigeria, Africa will remain at the mercy of others in shaping its future.

The ADC Youth Leader lamented that despite Nigeria having Africa’s largest youth population, with over 70% under 35, it remains the most economically disadvantaged generation since independence.

He stated, “The National Bureau of Statistics reports that 133 million Nigerians are living in multidimensional poverty. Food inflation is over 33%. The National Unemployment Report shows youth unemployment above 53%.

“UNESCO confirms that over 20 million Nigerian children are out of school, the highest in the world. This is not just a policy failure; it is a moral crime. How can the same leaders who boast about GDP growth ignore the fact that our classrooms are empty while our prisons and streets are full of young people without hope?

“The Nigeria Security Tracker recorded over 12,000 deaths from violent attacks in 2024 alone—many of them in communities where youth make up the majority of the victims. In Zamfara, Katsina, Niger, and Kaduna, rural youth are kidnapped for ransom while urban youth are hunted down in the name of “security operations.” And yet, our so-called leaders spend more money on convoy fuel than on community policing.

“Under the theme Local Youth Action for SDGs and Beyond, we must confront the hard truth — in Nigeria and across Africa, young people’s efforts toward achieving the SDGs are shackled by bad government policies, poor budgetary allocations, and a lack of political will. With just five years left before 2030, the gap between developed and developing nations is glaring, and a one-size-fits-all SDG framework is failing to address our unique challenges.

“The African Democratic Congress, guided by its constitution and vision beyond Nigeria, calls on the United Nations to urgently adopt differentiated goals for developed and developing countries so that the realities of poverty, unemployment, insecurity, and educational decline in our societies are not ignored but directly addressed. The youth of Africa cannot continue to be judged by the standards of nations whose histories, economies, and governance structures are worlds apart from ours.”

Rufai affirmed that the ADC’s loyalty lies with Nigeria, not any tribe, region, or the selfish ambitions of a few—vowing to establish lasting systems that serve all citizens, rather than relying on empty post-election slogans.

He continued, “I am not here to tell you to wait. I am here to tell you that e don reach. As the streets say, no be who first start na him dey finish race. The incumbents may have started with power, but if the youth organise, we will finish with victory.

“I speak as someone who has queued for fuel at midnight, borrowed to pay school fees, and seen friends take dangerous journeys across the Sahara and Mediterranean because home gave them no reason to stay. These chains can break, but only if the people wearing them rise together.

“The ADC is ready to give young Nigerians a seat at the table, not as decoration, but as decision-makers. We will champion policies that create real jobs by investing in agro-processing, renewable energy, and tech startups. We will fund education like our lives depend on it—because they do. We will bring security to our communities not by empty promises, but by empowering local security structures and addressing root causes.”

Delta State Chapter of the African Democratic Congress, ADC, has said the urgent need to rescue Nigeria from the shackles of economic challenges it is facing now informed the formation of the party.

National Chief Whip of the party, Mr. Festus Igbinoba, who spoke in Effurun, Uvwie local government area of Delta State, stating that the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, and the All Progressive Congress, APC, have disappointed and failed Nigerians.

Receiving new members from different political parties, he said ADC has come to stay in the state.

“We are here today to officially unveil Delta State chapter of the ADC ahead of the 2027 general elections so as to rescue Nigeria from the shackles of economic challenges we are facing now.

“With ADC, Nigeria will be repositioned for a better future, because APC and PDP have failed Nigerians woefully,” he said.

The ADC national chief whip called on members of the party, including the newly received members, to go home and propagate the gospel of ADC from their various units.

The co-ordinator of ADC in Delta Central, Julius Efeni Akpovoka, while addressing newsmen immediately after the unveiling meeting, described it as a welcome development.

“We thank God for today’s meeting of the unveiling of ADC. l commend every member of different political parties who have come to identify with ADC, you are now an automatic member of ADC, you have to abide by the rules and regulations and respect the leadership of the party.

“ADC is the only opposition party in Delta and by the special grace of God, ADC will take over Delta state and the National level, because APC and PDP have disappointed us.

“We will continue to remain committed to ensure that the dream of repositioning Nigeria for better future will be guaranteed,” Akpovoka stated

helinues:
How is that relevant to this discussion?