₦airaland Forum

Villa12:
unfortunately, most of these my fellow Yoruba brothers don't reason this way. I don't know if truly some of them are being paid for it or not. They're just after Tinubu ruling f8 years. They careless if his policies has any impact on the masses. I understand some of them are government paid agent. They will be telling Nigerians complaining that they're lazy or their father should go and do it. Check out @Fearyourcreator comment history then you'd be amaze the people you share oxygen with. All his comments is all about Tinubu, Tinubu, Tinubu. Defending him left, right and center.

It is well

How many times did you see northerners criticise buhari online
How many times have you see igbo criticizing there governors online.

See am in support of them doing that for reasons best known.

If there criticism is constructive then it will makes sense but most times is born out of hate and bias.

Even the good policies this people still attack him....that makes no sense.

Villa12:
exactly

I don't support any politicians nor have any favourite. I also believe they're all the same My mantra is, once a leader failed to give the masses dividend of democracy within 4 years he/she assume office then such a leader shouldn't be consider for second term.

Totally agree....4yrs is enough to do something significant.

Villa12:
we go come back after 4 years in office. Achievement that has impact on the common man on the streets not audio Achievement or Achievement for the elites. We dey watch

Now you talking.

Let wait to affect four before comparing.

The fact is I don't support any Nigeria politicians cos to me that are all the same.
They are all terrible and corrupt.

Bosman17:
Send your aza…

Bro I mind too incase if you still have to spare....not easy at all for family man.

At all at all I go manage am.

Villa12:
we can still point at Obasanjo achievement as a president. Achievement that has positive impact on the masses. What is Tinubu achievement so far?

Obasanjo achieved those things after 1 and half years in office.

Some of you are just shallow.

Basic123:
Igbo view of OBJ always change with prevailing situation.
He is their friend today because of OBI...He was their friend when he appointed OKONJO iweala etc and endorsed GEJ,He became their enemy when he fought GEJ.

If he had made an IGBO man the vice president to yaradua and IGBO man will gave been president today.

OBJ Killed more IGBO during the Civil War than BUHARI,But na BUHARI they hate because of civil war

I gave up on those people when one told me he preferred military rule.

This someone who was a toddler during abacha regime and he claiming he wants military rule back
I believe most them don't have a mind of there own they just follow narrative of the people in there village meetings.
Which sane human will prefer military rule over democracy.

They all sleep and face one direction.....you sing there praise they love you but the day you do otherwise they completely hate you.

Villa12:
Nigerians never experienced untold hardship under Obasanjo regime. We only experience it in Tinubu government. Obasanjo policies had a positive impact on the average man on the street unlike your emilokan anti people policies.

Lol.....most of you were babies in 1999-2007.

Go check how many time NLC went on strike during his tenure....no president has beating the record till date.

I don't do lesser evil....Evil is Evil

Obasanjo is still the worst we ever had cos everything was perfect for him to turn this country but he laid the foundation for what we facing today.

Firstly he wanted a third term and when he didn't get it he imposed his own candidate, that was the beginning of everything bad during civilian rule.

thunder74:
Since the refineries were not sold and the sales were canceled, are they better now?

Have they not spent tripple of that amount of state money on the so called turn around maintenance without a drop of fuel?

Even if OBJ sold them for 1k each and the refineries are managed well by private companies, I am not sure we will be where we are now.

So after spending 8yrs just to 2 days to leaving office that when he realized he needed to sell the refinery??

Some of you were babies when this man was president hence you don't know how corrupt this man was.

Always maintain my stand that Obasanjo is the worst civilian president we ever seen but people who were babies when he was president praise him.

He laid foundation for every corruption we are witnessing today under civilian rule yet this man will be parading himself as saint.

Which president sells a govt establishment like the refineries just 2 days to leaving office?? Haaa

So finally this man can admit his own wrong.

Didn't he swear the refinery can never work.

Always doing like a saint but was the one that laid the bad foundation of bad democratic government we experiencing.

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Alright bro....appreciate your input.

dawnomike:
First reach out to her people in Abuja to inform them of when she left your house.
Afterwards, you all should agree on reporting to the police before you'll enter problem for what you know nothing about.

My wife have open up to the area sis this morning about everything.

The woman last child is a 2yr old boy and he got sick. The boy father got to know and he want to take the boy but the woman needs her permission before releasing him, na where wahala start.

Around June this year my wife got a job in Abuja which was for fews week. She left on a Saturday to resume on Monday.
When she got to Abuja the person messed up and she had to stay in a hotel , when the person was still not forthcoming about the initial agreement I had to search for a place for her to stay. Fortunately I was able to get a old collegue who linked me to someone.

She is a single mother with 3 kids and she accommodated my wife from Wednesday to Sunday. She was really nice and we appreciated her help.
Since then my wife took her like a senior sister.

On the 21st my wife just called me that the woman is coming to lagos on the 22nd and she request if she can stay with us for just a day before moving to the island. I immediately asked my wife who she coming to see in lagos cos she has no relatives here but she responded she coming to see the mother of her late first baby daddy.
I knew it was a lie and told my wife she coming to see a man.
She came on the 22rd and story change, she beg to leave to on the 27th and that when my wife found out she came to see a man and that one won't be available until on 27th.
This woman dropped her 3kids in Abuja with a area sis and came down to lagos cos of dick.

The issue now is her people in Abuja all believe she staying with us cos she did lot video calls during her stay before leaving. Despite All my wife efforts to get the location where she going on the island before leaving she kept dribbling her.

My wife got a fb message yesterday from the area sister that they want to speak to her cos they haven't been able to get her since on the 31st, we have also try get her since yesterday but she isnt responding to calls and whatapp messages and some panicking as started.

Should i go report at police station or what is the best thing to do at this point cos we don't know this man or his address.

pocohantas:
Amen o. May we not also have married kids that go online to insult others. Better to be single in peace than an e-nuisance.

It is a faceless forum for a reason humpty dumpty.

Menopause nah bad thing sha.

[quote author=Botragelad post=133542522]So they were Muslims. Okay! Muslims.

Yes they are Muslims killing majorly fellow Muslims.

And the USA is the major devil arming them for selfish interest and reasons.

Botragelad:
You are beginning to sound like a broken record,son. How do you argue against the fact that the US has been actively involved in military operations against ISIS in Syria and Iraq, if they supposedly view them as "freedom fighters"? Name a single instance when the US called them "freedom fighters"!

These are people the US have fought against for years but you think you are smart enough by lying here. People aren't blind, we can see through the lense of Islamic propaganda. Why is it always Muslims doing the terrorist thing?

Can you also provide any credible sources or quotes from US officials that support the claim that ISIS is viewed as a "freedom fighting" organization?

USA was major sponsor of ISIS via CIA until they went rogue.....do you know how many years this guys fought Assad ??

In as much this set of Muslims are inhuman and wicked the USA is always aid them from the beginning with weapons.

This guys even kill people in there own country.....go check the record of how many ISIS has killed 98% are fellow muslims.

pocohantas:
No better choice. Definitely not the one your parents are stuck with - you. 😃

Well my parents already getting retun on investment.

Married, 2 kids and sending them money.



Imagining have a female child of 40yr....not married and no kids.

God abeg oooo....I reject it for my generation.

pocohantas:
They appreciate it.😃

What choice do they have.......🤣.

Make God no sha give anyone this kin child.

pocohantas:
You should have focused on this and leave the topic at hand. Na this one be your main pain point. 😂😂😂😂😂

Actually I just feel for your parents....😁😆😆😆🤣

pocohantas:
My dear, rest. You no get talk.
Some of us responded even before the topic was edited by a mod. That is why a sensible human should read through. Not be foaming in the mouth like an attack dog.

Once again you are delusional and need serious mental health help.

It no one fault your being an old hag with no family of your own at your age.

Stop putting mouth in marital dicussions.

Lastly only a father and family elders collect and return bride price....only those who aren't married will argue this fact.

pocohantas:
I bet in a rush to remind NL I am single at 40, you didn't read.

1) The topic of this thread is

- Must the father be part of the bride price return team.

My response is NO.

2) To your ignorance.
- Does a bride family go to the ex in-laws to return bride price?

My response is YES. If they fail to return it at the initial meeting in a bid to give the couple room for reconcilitiation, then they have to make that trip.

It is interesting you are now claiming not to have argued the bride's family goes for the return trip even with your post in full view. Obviously you came here to attack my menopause. But hey, you can't hide ignorance behind insults. So leave all these insults you have been throwing upandan. If it didn't dey, it didn't dey. 😂😂😂

Aunty all isn't well with you oooo and am beginning to be scared for you.

The topic of the thread clearly read...."who is eligible to return bride price" and not the delusional topic you created.

You seems lost ........you need some serious mental attention.

pocohantas:
Which further buttresses my post that a bride's family makes the return. The eligibility of the return partu aside.

When compared to your post below. Who is the humpty dumpty? Who is clueless and who is dull?



My dear, you can't use insults to sway me or mask your ignorance om the subject.

It seems menopause is beginning to cripple your brian capability ooo.
Was there anywhere anyone argue the fact is the wife family that return pride price?? Are you sure you in right frame of mind...cos that statement sound really awkward.

Once again otodo it is the father or family elders that collect and return bride price....was is it the wife sis or BIL that collected the pride price on the wedding for them to be the one to return it in this case??


Lastly someone who isn't married and have never have personal experience about it is calling someone who is married ignorant on marital subject.
It just go to show how redundant you are honestly.

pocohantas:
This post is not about where you come from.
Take a second to read and comprehend the opening post. Then try commenting again.

I recommend you take your advise cos it seems you getting delusional.

Op clearly wrote....his friend got a call that his wife ,her sis and husband are coming to return the pride price.

pocohantas:
If you are responding based on the post of the OP and still surprised that a bride's family goes to return bride price (which is a norm by the way) - then it is pertinent you also pray for the ability to comprehend in addition to common sense in 2025. 🙏

Well were I come from a wife, her sister and her husband going to return bride price is most foolishness thing we will ever witness.

If were you come from, a father and his own ummunnas will have a meeting and agree to a wife, her sister and husband going to return bride price then that is a big shame.

Where have you seen women getting involved in traditional marriage or divorce process??

You trying to be clever by half with the bolded.....the wife sis and her husband has no business with process of returning bride price.

When those of us who first hand knowledge about marriage are talking someone like you should be listen and learn cos I don't know wh you even arguing about something you have zero knowledge about?? This doesn’t even require common sense.


I pray you finally get a man to save you from menopause this 2025.....this year won't by pass you by again.

pocohantas:
You are saying nonsense.
No part of this post says;

1) The wife is initiating it alone.
2) The father didn't do the due meeting with the ummunnas.

3) That meeting doesn't involve the ex in-law at this point.

4) You are the one that knows nothing. Repeating same nonsense that I have addressed to make it look like you have a point.

Lol...Firstly get married before putting mouth in things like this.

All what you wrote did you read it in the post aswell??
Am only writing based on the info provided by the OP...I don't do conjectures and assumptions.

Only a foolish father will consent into bride price been returned that way.(even if I want to go with your dumb narrative)

pocohantas:
Yes, if the bride's family doen't give it to them initially, you tell them you will return (mostly when the lady wants to remarry). They will rarely come to you again.

To further butress this, if you read this post, Mr Sensible, you will see the bride's family called to say they are coming to return the bride price. They didn't ask the ex in-laws to come for it. But it is obviously not in you to read before attacking. So much for being the one with basic common sense. Please, get sense in 2025. Everything no be to foam for mouth. Take a second to read amd articulate your response.🙏

Once again humpty dumpty you have no personal experience about marriage hence why you talking rubbish.

A wife can't initiate paying her own bride price back.

Only the father or family elders (incase if he is late) can initiate the process by inviting the husband family and there will be witnesses present at the dissolution and return of bride.

In this case the guy or his family wasn't invited by either the father or by elders of the wife family but rather the wife, her sister and husband want to come return the Bride price which makes absolutely no sense.
Things like this are done for future references cos of kids involved, there is a reason why it is husband family that hand over bride price during marriage and not him but since you dont have personal experience you can't understand once again.



Anyways you shouldn't be seen commenting about things you have absolutely knowledge about.

pocohantas:
Like you guys haven't been marrying the ones without sense since 1901. One would think there is anything special about being picked by your type or the women you marry when you pull this card.

It is not common sense that a father goes in person to return it. It rarely happens that a father goes himself. It is not stupidity for the BIL to involve himself. If they don't have a son, then he can act as an adhoc son. As long as he has consent. You don't know the distance between both villages and the health status of the father you expect to embark on this trip. Any meeting that should have been done with both families is after the initial separation. Then the bride's family can hold on to the BP to still give room for reconciliation. Once it is established no reconciliation or the lady wants to remarry, no meeting is done with the guy again. Na to give them back their money after notifying the bride's kinsmen.

So my dear, go get that common sense you are hinged on and marry the woman you want this 2025. This your "na why you never marry" is stale and I honestly do not think any human with an iota of sense would say such.

Once again nah why you never marry at almost 40.......I stopped reading where you wrote BIL should be involved if they have no son in the family...BIL to who ?? B

Anyway since you have no personal experience of how marriage is been conducted then no need correcting your dullness.

Reading you saying do i expect the father to embark on a trip to return bride shows how shallow you reason my dear.....so where you come from father of bride makes trip down to son inlaw place to return bride price during divorce??

Nawa oo

ceejay80s:
no fight me na...
I already know the answer , just want to confirm from nairaland,
do u know the meaning on ALLUU

Stop engaging that moniker for your own good.

MadamExcellency:
The return is just N70 by Igbo tradition. It's just the representative of the token.

People should stop dropping opinions without fully understanding the ethnic group/tribe involved. In Igbo culture, it's taboo for her sister or in-laws to say that they are coming to bring back the dowry. This issue is what is supposed to be done within the kinsmen circle and not even her family alone because the bridal list contains kinsmen provisional requests/rituals among other things.

ceejay80s take note and advise your friend accordingly.

You people always mix bride price and dowry.

They are two different things...
Bride price is what a man pay to the bride family during wedding.

Dowry is properties/ money a bride brings from her parents house to her husband house.
Take note

pocohantas:
The elderly man should travel to go return bride price to a young guy probably in his 30s. Even if the friend na orphan, e no get kinsmen wey fit advise am on due procedure? He is taking traditional advice from someone who doesn't know how they share kolanut in meeting.

Nah why you never Marry cos you lack basic common sense.

Who did he pay the pride price to?? If the father collected it, then is common sense he should be the one to return since the union is dissolved.

Infact there suppose to be a meeting were this will done with witness present cos the marriage was done with witnesses .

It is stupidity for the wife sis husband to even involve himself cos of future reference.

Elusive001:
As a country, we are yet to understand the impact of leadership. Once the executive has integrity, it trickles down to the judiciary, legislative, and every other parts of the country.

A corrupt, nepotistic, evil, executive will NEVER ever sanitise the system, never!!

What a country need is a strong institutions.

The executive can be corrupt but once the institutions are strong that can't have there way.

No matter how corrupt a USA president is he can never succeed corrupting the system cos of the strong institutions.

3coins:
This red biro comment gets to me all the time.

It just shows why you should not have any living heros because people pretend, change and say things they don't mean.

How can one change into the very thing he fought against only few years ago?

That why I always tell people never to take side when Nigeria politicians fight cos they all the same.

It all about selfish interest.

Obaseki is another case for people to wise up.