How Manchester United signed Andre Onana: Talks before CL final, Amsterdam meet, hard bargaining​


Laurie Whitwell
Jul 24, 2023


When Andre Onana first heard Manchester United might want to sign him, the widespread belief inside and outside Old Trafford was that David de Gea would stay.



Talks on a new contract for De Gea, lasting several months, had finally reached an agreement. The 32-year-old went off for his holidays telling friends he would return to Carrington once back in England.


Erik ten Hag ideally wanted a goalkeeper suited to his style, but given the need for a new striker and midfielder he had accepted during the spring that United’s summer budget, limited to around £100million net, would be channelled elsewhere.


At that stage, De Gea had shown some improvement in passing out from the back and was on course to win the Premier League Golden Glove for most clean sheets. Ten Hag accepted he could do “one last dance” with De Gea, as an insider put it.


But after the FA Cup final, where De Gea conceded from two long-range Ilkay Gundogan shots and had to kick deep to avoid Manchester City’s press, Ten Hag decided he could wait no longer to sign a No 1 fitting his strategy. The doubt that had nagged in the 3-0 defeat at Sevilla and again after the 1-0 loss at West Ham — occasions when De Gea mistakes cost his side — became impossible to ignore.



And so, in the days before the Champions League final between City and Inter Milan, Ten Hag started asking people about the availability of the goalkeeper he had worked with at Ajax.



Yalcin Sarica, a senior agent at Wasserman Media Group, had originally been talking to Ten Hag about his client
Denzel Dumfries. But then, during the phone call, Sarica brought up Onana, a player he had known since 2019 and was in the process of representing. Ten Hag was interested. The fuse was lit.




Ten Hag and Onana shared four and a half years together in the Netherlands, winning three Eredivisie titles and reaching the Champions League semi-final in 2019. At the end of their time together he called Onana a “masterful goalkeeper”.


Ten Hag was therefore not surprised by Onana’s display against City in Istanbul, a performance that reinforced the United manager’s decision to pursue a reunion with the 27-year-old.


Afterwards, Pep Guardiola explained Onana’s effect on City’s attempts to press high. “When you have a goalkeeper like Onana who can read perfectly where everyone is to pass to,” he said, “it is very, very difficult.”


United scouts also rated AC Milan’s Mike Maignan highly, and a pursuit was floated. Executives from both clubs met in Milan around the Champions League semi-final in May to talk about Maignan. But the France international was ultimately seen as too expensive. After Milan sold Sandro Tonali to Newcastle for a fee in the region of €70million, Maignan’s price rose to €100m.



In contrast, Inter’s accounts meant they needed to sell to buy even after their run to the Champions League final banked them £100million. They were open to doing business on Onana. A fee mooted initially at €70m soon dropped to €60m, with United aware negotiations could see the cost fall further. In any case, Onana was Ten Hag’s No 1 choice.

hopefulLandlord:

But Mohammad was a pedophile and a murderer. It might be bitter but it's true

Let's not judge the past with the standard of today. Some historians will tell you Mary was about 12 to 15 when God inserted Jesus inside her.

Strong line up from Arsenal.

Pegasus01:
Goodluck

We are so terrible at selling players it's infuriating. City just sold a winger from their academy for 14million to West ham. They sold Trafford to Burnley for 19million. Those are players with zero premier league appearances. Compare that to United selling Elanga for a pitiful 15million and Henderson for 22million. Nothingham forest have even rejected to buy Henderson and are instead looking for another loan.

afrodoc2:


I am not pro-Russia o but I know South Africa can’t try it. They want to arrest a sitting Russian President? When brain is not paining them.

South Africa don't have the capability to pull something like that. No African country can.

CrystalTiger:
PSG wn carry football enter where we no know..Let it still be rumours because I don't understand this kind of contract..

He should actually be demanding more if it's over a ten year contract. Barca paid Messi 554million over a 4 year contract.

larride:

Primaries don start or na forecast?

GOP poll survey.

Emaprince:



All the male feminists in the west are destroying the rights of their men and giving em to women. That's why men gets easily canceled over frivolous issues.

What rights are getting destroyed?

DeSantis is losing in his own state to Trump. I mentioned it previously he has no chance against a man like Trump. He shouldn't have bothered.

GloriousGbola:


Yes and no

Winning a guiness record is free publicity for savvy entertainment oriented people

Kaffy dance queen used the gwr to blow some years back

Hilda has probably done the same as long as she doesn't pull any more silly 404 stunts.



Opportunities dey.

Opportunities if the actual record is something sensible like those examples you gave. The man crying for 5days that got partially blind who is going to sponsor that one? Another one did pray a thon who is going to offer him anything. Plus other silly ones like longest time reading aloud etc

Roland17:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-goes-blind-during-guinness-170841486.html

Wetin hunger and poverty dey cause...Werey nearly lose eyesight

I hope these people realize they are no monetary value attached in breaking a Guinness world record.

Benny McCarthy speaks 4 languages fluently. That's very very impressive.

Amigoss:


The guy has a point sha...

It makes me remember hundenyin story about burna boy in a nightclub.... The girl said no to burna in front of his boyfriend and things still went violent,imagine her boyfriend and friends were not there,she could have succumbed to burna advances out of fear cos he was with policemen and his cultist looking team..

With all the violence that went down that day,burna bought them off so they would not say anything to the press..

This footballers,musicians,celebrities and highly placed people dey sometimes overdo cos they have money and power

In some cases, consensual can be as a result of coercion...

Spot on.

raumdeuter:


If you don't say a No how will someone know you object

Without any threat, I ask you give me 5k you gave me. How will I know that your consent means a No

Why are guys held to a higher standard that he should know when a Yes is actually a No.
So the guy would be worried if the Yes was because she was scared of safety, if the Yes was because she was scared of losing him, if the Yes was because she was scared she won't get the money he promised? Or the Yes was because he might not drop her at home in his Bentley?

So how do these guys know when a Yes is an actual Yes and an adult making a decision on what she wants to do at that point? Are men expected to be mind readers

I can understand the saying "No means No". The one I am struggling with is when "Yes actually means No"


One of the popular rhymes in primary school ends with "Do not say Yes when you mean to say No:

All these things you have written now was included in my post and did you see me blame the guys for anything?

BlueAngel444:
West Ham are interested in signing Harry Maguire but the Englishman is happy at Manchester United and he loves the club. (Source: @sistoney67)

😁🤭😂🤣

He can show us he loves us by leaving.

Emaprince:
But girls have sex with their married bosses due to financial gains and promotion that may accompany it. Aren't the girls coercing their bosses through sex?

Abi you think these girls are not intentional about this?

Go back to my earlier post and you will see my post is talking about both genders. This your attempt at gaslighting is futile.

Emaprince:


If no one threatens you and you consent to sex, how can that be coercion? Nobody can read your mind to know of you are scared or just greedy cos you want a relationship with the man.

The post you just read explains everything perfectly.

Emaprince:
What do you mean? Are living in a cave?

So you don't know that even your girlfriend, sometimes will start feigning uninterested in sex...but when you try more. She will remind you of something you are supposed to do for her tey tey...then you will start making promises before she will relax for you

No I don't pay money to my wife for sex so I can't relate. The discussion is about sex in a work place.

Emaprince:
So when a woman demands money from men before she can allow se.x, it is robbery right?

If that is so...women are regularly doing this. It may not be money. Sometimes they want you to make one promise or another before they finally agree to sex.

Women who ask for money before sex are called sex workers and you are paying for their service. What do you mean by robbery?

Kimbeast:

The people who created and designed the Blockchain algorithm works for them. Gone are the days when Bitcoin transaction was untraceable

I think so as well. So many cases of people who thought their money was untraceable with Bitcoin are getting bursted. Trendon entire $150million was recovered from his Bitcoin wallet with ease.

larride:


Uncle the moment you put coerce or threaten into that kind of situation, its automatically a sex crime.

You are not in the market place where they dont know the difference between having consensual sex between adults and coercing or threatening someone into sex.

I used coerce to encompass a variety of situations In which an individual can be alleged to give consent. A girl in the midst of a group of boys in a room can consent to one of them because she fears for her safety if she refuses. In this scenario the boys didn't even do anything and to them she give in willingly but unknown to them just their sheer presence forces her into saying yes. What do you call that? A girl visit a guy and sleeps the night with no intention of sex but then the guys asks for it and like in my earlier example she gives in. They are so many examples and scenarios I can bring up.

User09:


Anybody who thinks Woodberry is coming out to meet his hidden loot or a possibility of it still doesnt know how this works or to what extent his plea bargain culminated.

Only peeps I know who get away with it in real life is in narcotics and obviously cos its in physical cash

Spot on.

User09:


The word coercion is not the best use of all the prior examples. but yes the example you gave should fall under sex crimes

Thats all I needed to hear.

larride:


What you typed now, is that the meaning of consensual or does consensual has another meaning in your own dictionary?

You people will just go to the opposite side just to have something to argue about.

Are you arguing that a consent cannot be coerced or what is this weak defense supposed to mean.

By the way sex for grade is a crime in Nigeria and punishable with jail term. Now relate that to the work place and even church.

User09:


These were not the examples that were given earlier, we were speaking of relationships with a power dynamics - Which I could easily argue exist in ALL relationships. Also u skipped the example where I talked about men having sex when madam is ovulating even when they would prefer not to; Does that count as rape?

419 refers to fraud or claims to obtain money fraudulently. The mens rea is obvious here. I'm talking about parting with my cash when I dont want to because I was coerced/compelled to due to "our power dynamic" relationship. Does that count as robbery?

Before going further into this back and forth argument. Do you agree that this below is a sex crime? Your answer will determine my next reply. Take note we are talking about sex in the work place and how an individual can be coerced into consent.

Bombblacks:

Being coerced into consensual sex definitely falls under rape and sex crimes. Let me give you an example. A manager threatening an employee to have sex if not he/She will sack or implicate that employee for stealing etc and the individual agrees due to that pressure can be counted as rape.

Ibime:


lol, have you heard of tornado cash or stake.com? That's how funds are washed

Not to mention a fraudster will have other addresses that have never interacted with each other on chain, killing dead any link to him

The only way he will hide anything successfully is if the U.S government just takes his plea deal were he gave up all his known assets and relaxed on his case. If not down to the last 100 in any account in Nigeria will be found and retrieved. What they did those hackers and that sony employee tells me after God( metaphorically speaking) the next people you should fear is the FBI.

BlueRayDick:

Woodberry was charged and sentenced for just one wire fraud . Nobody dey ransack anything .

Maybe u should read what he was investigated and charged for before making assumptions

Read the post of the person I was replying to before getting defensive over nothing.

User09:


Doesnt make it rape though.

Ask any married couple you know, this is quite common; many a time when she's ovulating.

Also, if I'm coerced into parting with my cash, does it make it robbery?

Being coerced into consensual sex definitely falls under rape and sex crimes. Let me give you an example. A manager threatening an employee to have sex if not he/She will sack or implicate that employee for stealing etc and the individual agrees due to that pressure can be counted as rape. Harvey Weinstein is a perfect example. What are you talking about ?If you are being coerced into parting with your cash how is it not robbery. Is that not what you call 419.

AdisaOwala:


Antony was clearly a disappointment last season abeg - there is no need to sugarcoat his sub-par performances/output.

A whole lot of improvement is needed from him in particular - a whole lot!!

A whole lot of improvement is needed from all our wingers this season. Some of their decision making and indecisiveness was shocking.

seankafor:
you prolly don't know much about crypto

Thanks for your opinion but I know very much about crypto.

patrickmuf:
You forget Keita, Chambo, Milner and Firmino have all left and now Hendo and Fab are on their way so, they have freed up enough wages so they can sign a DM, a RB (If TAA is transitioning into a midfielder) and a CB.

Liverpool and Arsenal are looking in good shape.

I don't see how all the new signings would just adjust to klopp style of play which is why I think losing Henderson and Fabinho is going to affect them. They will basically be playing with a new midfield.