raumdeuter:


Klopp won the CL
Klopp win the league with over 90 points

Wenger was a mediocre coach who scammed his fans

That's why he was always losing 5-1 to Bayern

If Wenger is mediocre for not winning the champions league then Di Matteo is a world classes and better than him?

Ibime:



The last time Liverpool scored 90 plus points in the league with Rodri as anchor, we saw a gap wider than Panama canal. A gap that Fernandinho used to eat up every season. Rodri is just lucky Liverpool fell off. His performances at DM will not win a single league against a prime Liverpool like Fernandinho used to do. There is a reason they call Liverpool 97 points, no title. Rodri could never.

Not accurate. Liverpool finished with 92 points in the 2021/2022 season and City still won the league with Rodri.

raumdeuter:


Klopp won the CL
Wenger won no CL

That is not pitiful

Di Matteo won the champions league
Wenger won no champions league

Therefore Di Matteo is a better Coach than Wenger. Bro your argument are always laughable sometimes

raumdeuter:


Klopp has never had a situation where he was coaching in conference leagues and getting sacked time and again

In epl for instance Klopp has the second highest points ever even more than Mourinho

So those are the pitiful reasons why klopp is better than Wenger and Mourinho?

raumdeuter:


Wenger was a monumental failure in Europe

Mourinho recent years eroded many of his goodwill

If he retired around 2015 and not faced the humiliation of playing conference league Europa league he would be higher

The recent failures have affected his value just like Benitez was a top rated coach when he made 2 CL finals between 2005 and 2007 before he started coaching relegation teams

So how exactly is klopp better than Wenger and Mourinho?

raumdeuter:


Ferguson never faced anyone as good as Klopp
When he faced Mourinho who is even vastly inferior out of 3 seasons Mourinho beat him in 2 to the league

How exactly is klopp better than Mourinho or Wenger?

Newcastle vs Brighton is fire.

larride:


What in God’s name is this last one. 😳

My shock is shocked.

Those are not real marriages binded by law. You cannot marry yourself or a tree. They are just clowning. It's similar to you announcing you are marrying Arna de Armas in Nigeria and organizing a party to celebrate it.

odizeey:
Yes or no. No need for back and forth

That's why I asked if you have gender dysphoria.

raumdeuter:


Gender is actually a universal thing. 200yrs ago a man is a man and a woman is a woman

While age was not a thing, many people didn't measure their age. Or didn't use the Gregorian calendar and peg adulthood at 18.

Adult is defined by society. Using 18 as the standard is not universal. Many cultures put adulthood at the time of puberty. If a child attains puberty at 13 he becomes an adult. Many females after "seeing blood" are free to marry.
Why is 18 the age of adulthood and not 15, 21 or 25 or even 30

Gender that is universal and one of the most black or white thing is what you can identify as, while adulthood and age that is defined by society is what you cannot identify as?

A man is still a man and a woman is still a woman. Nothing has changed.


You are just explaining adulthood. You explaining adulthood and how different culture perceive time to reach it doesn't mean you can identify as an adult. Keynote " Identify as an adult" Same way a man walking with his two legs cannot say he is a cripple.


Gener is not universal or black or white as you claim. You are mixing up Gender with Sex. Gender is not determined biologically, as a result of sexual characteristics of either women or men, but is constructed socially. They are people suffering from Gender dysphoria.

raumdeuter:


If you can disregard biology and identify as female, why can't you do the same and be an adult

Nature and biology is irrelevant

You cannot identify as an adult. Both comparison you are trying to make are not even the same thing.

odizeey:

But I can identify as woman?

Do you have Gender dysphoria?

raumdeuter:

So in the case of those 2 kids who identify as adults and are doing adult stuff
Let's just play the game and let them live their liberal lifestyle

Stop clowning. You cannot identify as an adult

Ibime:


Yes, the same Stones

If Pep can use an otondo like Stones in midfield to great effect, it shows why nobody should take any DM seriously inside of Pep system

That's why I keep asking for evidence of weak DM doing it outside of Pep

Pep made some of you clowns hail Busquet greatest DM of all time. After Pep left, he turned to expressway.

You are basically admitting Pep is a genius.

postdigger:

Won't he be getting a medal if they win?

He was not registered in January so I don't think so.

Cancelo will be feeling like an idiot right now.

If you like spend one billion you are not going anywhere without the right coach. The bigger theme that people should be thinking about is how to deal with playing catch-up to Pep tactically.
Pep just changed everything when he thought people were catching onto his City side and now all of a sudden his RB/CB becoming DM with floating 8's in half spaces and in channels. Everyone's playing catchup now. By the time it becomes vogue and half the teams are doing it, you can be sure that Pep will change again. The man is step ahead of everyone else in terms of tactical adaptation. Give that same city squad to Ancelotti or any other coach and he won't be this dominant.

odizeey:


We both are marketers. I made 50k and you are expecting 70k that didn't come while ending up making 20k and you are saying you are better than me?

I killed my targets and you were expecting. Keep expecting.

Your comparison makes zero Sense.

odizeey:


Expected remains where it is. Expected. If they can't turn their expected points to actual points what makes them special? The "special team" accolade should be given to Newcastle.

The "expected points" did not magically appear from thin air. Brighton performances this season per match is why their xPTS is so high. Underperforming their xPTS doesn't take anything away from their performance. The fact here is Brighton performance metrics put them amongst the best teams in the league this season. Top 4 to be exact.

odizeey:


Why are they not even topping Liverpool who have been poor this season?

Them dey try but you guys should come off it? Stop overrating them

They are not topping you and Liverpool because they are underperforming their xPTS ( Expected points) by 10. All their performance metrics this season places them in top 4 comfortably.

AdisaOwala:


From an Arsenal fan...

He is definitely telling the Truth because they can't go head to head with City doesn't mean they are overated. They had 47 points from 18 matches which is Arsenal best start to a Premier League season in history. When the team chasing you can win 11 league games in a row then there's nothing you can do. Liverpool finished with 96points and came empty-handed. Manchester city are just that good.

maik99:
Shey the otondos for this thread dey watch Brighton, giving Arsenal a footballing lesson on their own turf

Talmabout nothing is special about Brighton that man utd can’t beat them

Otondos😂

Everybody knows Brighton have been amongst the best teams in the league this season. With their performance metrics they are supposed to be top 4.

AdisaOwala:
How this Arsenal take top league sef?

What I see is a team only strong enough to qualify for the CL (based on the dip in form of other clubs)

Stop playing. They were the best team in the league for 80% of the season. The started dropping silly points at the wrong time while city was winning 11league games In a row.

TrebleChamp:
Again if your attackers are scoring goals, you won't really notice De Gea's limitations. I don't think Ramsdale is also very good at distribution, but Arsenal are playing good footy non the less.
Now with the bolded you listed, i ask again why is Ten Hag or the club offering him a new deal to remain at the club? Are you trying to tell us something we don't know about the Manager?

Does the limitations disappear when your attackers starts scoring goals? what does your attackers scoring goals has to do with your goalkeeper limitations. Ramsdale is amongst the top 90 percentile when it comes to distribution in Europe top 5 league according to Fbref.

https://fbref.com/en/comps/Big5/keepersadv/players/Big-5-European-Leagues-Stats

pkasso:


Henry was a notorious big game choker and what one could call a local champion. He couldn't replicate his PL form on the European stage and with France when on international duty. And let's not kid ourselves, the PL of the early 2000's wasn't half as competitive as it is today so his stats, while impressive are only par for the course. Think Lewy banging in goals in the Bundesliga or Mbappe in Ligue One.

Sheva played in a slightly tougher league IMO at that point in time, facing meaner defences while playing as a lone striker for most of the time, a rarity in that period. He also had a better record in Europe. His numbers speak for themselves.

Premier league was usually amongst top 2 in Uefa ranking during those years so your comparison with Ligue 1 and bundles Liga makes no sense. How meaner and tougher is a league were Cristiano Lucarelli was finishing top scorer, outscoring Sheva and averaging 20goals per season from 2004 to 2007.

TrebleChamp:
I get defensive when he is been made the scapegoat for the team horrible performance every game. We have players up front who are not scoring goals, but na De Gea una wan put all the blame on.

Nobody here makes De gea the only scapegoat for any of our horrible performances. The attack, Midfield and defense has been heavily blamed at different times this season. Even Casemiro has been called out for being poor since his return from suspension. The criticism of Degea here has always been about his limitations.

1. He has poor distribution which affects how we play.

2. He is not a sweeper keeper and doesn't command his box well enough.

3. He is very poor at saving penalities.

4. He has started making silly mistakes that has cost us some goals this season.

When any of this get mentioned you and others starts getting defensive for no reason whatsoever.

TrebleChamp:
Ten Hag is offering De Gea a new contract, unless you are telling me he said it for the camera but will definitely bin De Gea at the end of the season. We wait to see

The club is offering De gea a reduced contract. His wages is getting slashed by a significant amount and offering De gea a new contract doesn't mean we are not looking for a new goal keeper.

TrebleChamp:
I hope you will be sick and tired of Ten Hag too when/if he offers De Gea a new contract?
Cos Ten Hag is saying same thing some of us have said about De Gea here, he holds the most clean sheet this season inspite of facing more shots that goalkeepers in the top 6. He has his limitations, but you guys are just pushing your agenda or rather anger to the wrong player...

Ten hagg is saying exactly what he should say to the media. He is not going to come out and white wash De gea in public. So you agree he has limitations yet still get defensive when those limitations get called out. Some of you are impossible.

Leyqute:


That’s what happens when you have a big team mindset and don’t have the players or skills to play like them.

Brighton wanted to control the Everton game like they did against a tired, mediocre and egotistical Man Utd. Sean Dyche said no problem. He went the physical route, conceded possession and relied solely on counter to dismantle his whole team.

Well played TBH.

You are not saying anything new. Brighton have always gone into games this season to control them and dominate possession. You are sounding like Everton are the first people to rely on counter attack against Brighton.

AdisaOwala:




The same Brighton that was said to be on the same level as Mancity?

Some people still feel we needed to invest 400m to even draw this same Brighton

Brighton losing to Everton doesn't mean they haven't been amongst the best team in England this season. Bad day at the office. Even this match their xG was 3 goals.

BronzeTiger:

But kvara was on the pitch when zielieski asked osimhen for permission before taking the penalty against frankfurt which could have gotten osimhen a hat trick. I also remember him taking it against liverpool in their first champions league match though he missed it before being subbed out due to injury. How many top teams do you know that the main striker has to wait behind others before taking penalties?

That's none of my business. Spalletti confirmed it that Politano was their penalty taker followed by Kvaratskhelia.

Incognito9:


So we don't need to check how many games played?
Okay I accept they outscored him.

Who was Onye elevator outscoring and outassisting last season?

Good. The question is irrelevant and dumb. Fact remains Kvaratskhelia has been Napoli best player this season and has contributed to them winning the league title for the first time In 33years. His 3 player of the month and upcoming player of the season award shows it