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Disgusting and abnormal

Nigeria!!!

God help us

nijabazaar:
Before it was just the North that was the single enemy of the South....now SW is on the list.

very troubling.

porka:
Don't mind the guy.

They will support anything their god say.

Investigations that are supposed to be discrete and stealth to avoid possible compromise of evidence are blown open to tarnish people's image.

But court trials which are supposed to be in full public glare are preferred to be secret to deny the accused their rights to public denial of allegations.

Now that they are being served their own medicine, they want everyone to suddenly disregard allegations against them.

We warned them that their own time would come.

When you destroy public institutions and write your own rules simply to gain unnecessary public sympathy, the same will be used against you sooner or later.

Wait till Buhari finish his term, and you'll see America wonders of massive media orchestrated trials of himself and his people. If it's 'fair' now to them now, it will be 'fair' then.

hypocrisy has beclouded our sense of rationality in this country. We are in trouble.

blackpanda:
So would u prefer it if efcc investigated, arrested, prosecuted and jailed corrupt officials without informing the public? Wont u be the first to shout "tyranny"! Pls lets reason constructively. Under our constitution, criminal trials must be made public and its for our own good. U have the opportunity to puncture the efcc claims where erroneous. This claim of "media trial" makes absolutely no sense!

I hope u haven't forgotten that fg wants secret trial for dasuki on a criminal matter

They need to be kicked out, the same erdogan who said democracy and rule of law has no values .

https://www.nairaland.com/3237218/democracy-freedom-rule-law-no

"Buhari appeals for decent and civilized comments" . Is buhari decent and civilized?

Is buhari not mad u send Efcc and dss to arrest and detain people "without concrete evidence" in the name of fighting corruption. But can't do the same for your ministers. So "people should wait till they are indicted" but does the Efcc wait till suspects are indicted instead they embark on media trial. U started this media persecution and prosecution now u are complaining.

Very clueless and hypocritical ruler

For those who doubts that erdogan staged this coup, its now obvious, the criminal wants to rule forever and become a dictator. Imagine his citing Hitler Germany as an example of how a presidential system should be. Thats to tell u his visions and ambitions.

I pray some African leaders especially in West Africa won't use this erdogan pattern in their country or countries. Let me stop here.

‘Democracy, freedom and the rule of law’ have no value, Erdogan says
Published time: 18 Mar, 2016 11:44
Edited time: 18 Mar, 2016 12:24

Democracy, freedom and the rule of law have no value any longer, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said. He added that those who don’t support Ankara’ efforts to combat terrorists in the country are Turkey’s “enemies.”

“Democracy, freedom and the rule of law…For us, these words have absolutely no value any longer. Those who stand on our side in the fight against terrorism are our friend. Those on the opposite side are our enemy,” Erdogan told local leaders in Ankara on Wednesday, according to the DPA news agency.

Ankara is planning to deploy “an iron fist against terrorism” and “fight Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) militants” in the country’s south east Erdogan said.

Turkey views all Kurdish militia that are also spread widely throughout Syria and Iraq as a direct national threat. Erdogan repeated Turkey will strike Kurds everywhere.


"Wherever you run, our soldiers, police and village guards will find you there and do what is necessary," the president said, referring to Kurdish militants.

He also urged the authorities to “swiftly” end immunity from prosecution for pro-Kurdish politicians.


“I no longer see as legitimate political actors the members of a party, which is operating as a branch of the terrorist organization," Erdogan said. The Turkish president has repeatedly accused the Peoples' Democratic Party of Turkey (HDP) of supporting PKK fighters.


This is not the first controversial comment made by the Turkish president. In January, he reiterated his desire to ensure Turkey’s adoption of a presidential system of government. He has even cited Adolf Hitler’s Germany as an example of how this can be achieved.

“There are already examples in the world. You can see it when you look at Hitler’s Germany,” he said on Thursday, according to a recording broadcast by the Dogan news agency. “There are later examples in various other countries.”


In February, Erdogan accused Washington of causing the bloodbath in Syria by not recognizing as terrorists Kurdish forces fighting against Islamic State (IS, former ISIS, ISIL) in the region.

“Oh America! I told you many times, you are [either] beside us, or all of these terrorist organizations. You haven’t had a good grasp of them, and that is why the region has turned into a sea of blood,” Erdogan said, referring to the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its militia wing, the People’s Protection Units (YPG), which the US does not recognize as terror groups.


The conflict between the Turkish government and Kurdish population, who demand greater autonomy, has been continuing for decades. With several failed ceasefires between the sides, Ankara has been blamed by a number of human rights groups for putting civilian lives at risk in Turkey's mainly Kurdish southeast.

In summer 2015, Ankara launched a military operation to crack down on Kurdish fighters linked to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK). The violence ended a two-year truce.

https://www.rt.com/news/336092-erdogan-against-democracy-freedom/

Age is not maturity, smh. Someone must have talked sense into his brains.

vedaxcool:
I demand you stop leasing your cranium to the other people and put it to good use. A dictator yet the court easily executes its own decision free from fear and intimidation and rules against the govt? So erdogan convinced all his enemies to plot a coup and then decided to arrested them afterwards? What weed are you and gulen smoking? Erdogan then decide to bomb the hotel he was in minutes after he left the place? People died opposing a coup that sought to rob them of democracy and all you can say here is he staged manage a coup that his enemies willingly participated in and even killed to sustain... you guys are just not it at all

u are obviously lost in the overt runnings of politics, probably Nigerian politics u can never understand how international politics is played unless u enlighten urself and apply critical thinking. And next time u have an opinion state it without showing your uncivilized nature.

Fadamant:
Thank you, bro.

Can you imagine that up till now Erdogan and his gang have not been able to definitely tell the world who was behind the coup. They pointed at Gulen at the beginning but he and the US rejected their accusation. Now they are holding former Airforce chief, with the national broadcaster saying he had admitted to being behing the coup, but private broadcasters are saying otherwise. Erdogan is just looking for who to hang it on.

Thousands of soldiers are being detained and tortured and 3000 judges sacked. 9000 policemen have been suspended and they want us to believe that this is a coup. Baloney.

This is definitely a false flag and Erdogan won't get away with it in the long run.

The man is a crook. With such amount of military personnel speculated to be involved in the coup, erdogan should have been in jail by now or a dead man. Just like nwaanambra1 said these daft and evil moves by erdogan might turn turkey into Syria. The same Syria erdogan sponsored Isis are terrorising.

Nigeria is doomed if this Fulani illiterate continues till 2019. The change charm is gradually clearing from the eyes of the deceived.

eleojo23:
I think the guy needs this...

Chai una no go kill person

BrainnewsNg:
Hmmmmm

Can this be possible?

very possible that man Erdogan is a power hungry criminal.

Fadamant:
It looks like Erdogan staged this coup to ramp of security fears among the citizenry, purge his opponents in the army and politics and tighten control. Erdogan is a rogue. He has stayed in power for twelve years and is confiscating power more and more.

. https://www.nairaland.com/3234061/turkey-coup-plotter-gulen-failed

RobinHez:
I also have this thoughts...

. https://www.nairaland.com/3234061/turkey-coup-plotter-gulen-failed

adebayosun02:
I like your opinion on this development, some CNN reporters equally shared same view.

thanks so much. That man is power thirsty and can go any length. https://www.rt.com/news/351656-gulen-erdogan-staged-coup-claims/

That man erdogan is a dictator, he has been looking for ways to have a firm grip on his country. This is the way he has chosen, stage a coup and use the failed coup to remove all opposing voices from govt or send them to jail or even murder them.

My greatest fear is that other dictators and authoritarians in various countries especially Africa might follow this erdogan pattern and become a Demi god in their various countries.

Well every sensible person knows that was a scam, the minister was scammed. Scammers being scammed. Wonderful

‘Turkey coup plotter’ Gulen: Failed uprising could have been ‘staged’ by Erdogan himself
Published time: 16 Jul, 2016 23:02
Edited time: 17 Jul, 2016 00:54
Islamic preacher Fethullah Gulen. ©

The preacher who has been accused by the Turkish government of trying to seize power in a military coup has hit back, appearing to accuse President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of conducting a deadly false flag operation, and comparing him to Hitler.

“There is a possibility that it could be a staged coup, by Mr Erdogan’s AKP Party, and it could be meant for further accusations, against the Gulenists and the military,” Fathullah Gulen, who is in exile in Pennsylvania, told the media Saturday.


Hours earlier, Erdogan – who has habitually accused Gulen, and his popular Hizmet movement, of trying to overthrow him, ever since the two former allies fell out in 2013 – called on the US to extradite Gulen.

Gulen, who holds a US Green Card but is not an American citizen, said he was “unconcerned” by the prospect of deportation. The cleric has been living in Pennsylvania in what is said to be a self-imposed exile.

“I don’t believe that the world takes the accusations made by President Erdogan against me seriously,” said the 75-year-old, before condemning the use of violence to depose Erdogan.

At least 265 people were killed after an abortive attempt to seize power in Turkey by a large group of army officers on Friday night. Over 2,800 army personnel have been arrested, and 2,700 relieved of their duties.

Gulen said that reprisals likely await those alleged to have plotted the coup, comparing Erdogan’s tactics to those used by Adolf Hitler to clear the political field in Germany in the 1930s, which turned it into a police state.


“It is very clear that there is intolerance among the leadership of the ruling party and the president. They have confiscated properties and media organizations, broken doors and harassed people in a fashion similar to Hitler’s SS forces,” said Gulen, speaking through an interpreter.

Erdogan sees coup as ‘chance to cleanse military’ while PM mulls death penalty

In the first years after Erdogan was elected in 2003, he relied on the support of Hizmet, which could count on as much as 10 percent of Turkey’s population as allies. But the two powerful men had a dramatic falling out, in which supposed Gulenists wiretapped top officials, revealing evidence of corruption. For his part, Erdogan ordered the closure of multiple Gulenist schools and institutes, which form the backbone of the Hizmet movement, which is both social and religious.

Since then, newspapers and TV channels have been shut down, and officials and businessmen arrested and tried for supposedly trying to create a “parallel state” that would usher in the rule of Gulen’s allies.

Friday night’s attempted coup has also led to a diplomatic spat between Ankara and Washington, even though the White House has spoken out in support of Erdogan. The Turkish government has accused the US of shielding Gulen from prosecution, even suggesting that represents a “hostile” act toward Turkey.

“I do not see any country that would stand behind this man, this leader of the terrorist gang, especially after last night. The country that would stand behind this man is no friend to Turkey. It would even be a hostile act against Turkey,” Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım told reporters on Saturday.


In response, US Secretary of State John Kerry told Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavosoglu that such public accusations “are utterly false and harmful to our bilateral relations.”

https://www.rt.com/news/351656-gulen-erdogan-staged-coup-claims/

Criminal erdogan, he might have staged this coup to purge his opponent, which has already begun

https://www.nairaland.com/3234061/turkey-coup-plotter-gulen-failed

We have an economic terrorist as a president, so am not surprised.

ChappyChase:
And if the man pretend not to hear nkor?

we have bodies who he should report to then they start their investigations. Cause now he is indirectly calling arase a corrupt man, let him involve Efcc and let them do their investigations and not this media slandering

People attacking the person, fallacies of argumentum ad hominem, what Dino said is it true or false. Am not a supporter of the two but u reap what u sow.