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yOU MEAN THIS OTHER pictures are real. What the bleep is Dat, WHat the excreta.
This is demonic spirit in action. If the man is christian, then he's mentally derailed. God created Adam to express intimacy with Eve and not God creating Adam and another Adam or Eve and Another Eve. If any man in right senses support this act of HUMAN against GOD then he shall rip all the the destruction that befell Sodom and Gomorrah.
Where some are still praying for peace in this nation some are still doing what can eventually bring total destruction from GOD.
I believe this where both christians and Muslims should join hands to fight this battle against the Human race, so that God will not destroy the already collapsing country.

This should not take Odechukwu Jonatin years to sign, must they teach him everytin

moremi2008:
The real tragedy here is that we never see comments this vitriolic about Nigeria's corrupt and inept politicians. Nigerians and their misplaced priorities!

Maybe you spend too much time watching porn movies

Come to think of it, this was the same crime commited by sodom and gomorrah and were destroyed. So they are even very happy working in the same direction.
They dont av human rights because they are not humans, even animal rights dey no get.

if all nigerians can stand and took there destinies into their hands during ibb must go, and we suceeded. if during abacha we all came out with one voice and faced the mouth of the gun. then nothing will stop us. goodman_n i join you and all meaningful nigerians against democractic tyrany and demonic governance by jonatin odechukwu beaf. if god be for us 1billion of beaf, jonatin and bombs can not stop the crusade.

if all nigerians can stand and took there destinies into their hands during ibb must go, and we suceeded. if during abacha we all came out with one voice and faced the mouth of the gun. then nothing will stop us. goodman_n i join you and all meaningful nigerians against democractic tyrany and demonic governance by jonatin odechukwu beaf. if god be for us 1billion of beaf, jonatin and bombs can not stop the crusade.

[quote author=Dude, I have not argued anywhere that fuel would be cheaper; rather, if the N1.3trillion is properly utilised, we will actually be much better off. The grapevine has it that it is going to go into areas such as welfare packages for schools and maternal care, water, transportation, infrastructure etc. I believe there are very very juicy plans for the common man,
[quote][/quote]@Beaf UNcle Dude,

What happened to trillions of naira budgeted last year by your deluded uncle odechukwu, when was the time the government of nigeria invest in infastructure for the masses. WHy dont the government start from buying free buses for transportation to ease the effect that will come from the effect of the removal. why cant he first start providing the infastruture with the money they have now? It seems all the families of Jonatin thinks alike, beaf inclusive

Ii cannot check my balance on my BB

^^^^ fact

PHIPEX:
I used  to think that people who can read and write are learned, but u'v proved me wrong again. What has his actions got to do with his being a Yoruba? Afterall ya na Chris Uba ke onye ka nma?

I TIRED O THEY JUST COME ON THE TREAD AND START SPEWING RUBBISH BECAUSE THEY AV NOTHING TO ADD. THE MAN IS A THIEF THEN WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE REMAING YORUBAS. THEY ARE THE ONE THAT WILL START TRIBAL WAR AND THEY WILL BE THE FIRST TO COMPLAIN AND POINT ACCUSING FINGERS.

wASTING RESOURCES ON A DEAD MAN THAT NEVER ADDED VALUE TO ANY IGBO RACE BUT HANDED THEM OVER TO THE SLOTTER SLAB LIKE PIGS

Wily¬Wily:
This man dey joke, 99.99% of Yorubas are Crooks

THEN ITS RIGHT TO SAY 100% OF IGBOS ARE R*A*PIST, RITUAL KILLERS-clifford, FAKE PRODUCT SELLERS, 419ers, ARMED ROBBERS. Ojukwu  father OF ALL IGBOS is rotting in hell now confessing his sins

ifyalways:
@Mirima,Yes.
O buro ma nwa,onye ga-enyem
Ukwu George,onye ga-enye mAkpa rice,onye ga-enye m
Moto car(lol),onye ga-enye m

I particularly feel for women still waiting to be blessed with children whenever i hear the song.

@Brainpulse,You don't say .I believe you've interacted with all Igbo's to come up with this ya 2pence theory.

Assuming its even true,hows that your concern?

nO OFFENCE THOSE THAT HAVE INTERRACTED WITH, LAY ALOT OF EMPHASES ON THE MALE CHILD WHICH IS NOT SUPPOSE TO BE, SO DISCRIMINATING THE FEMALE CHILD. EVEN IN SOME CASES RIDICULING THE MOTHER AS IF SHE HAD CONTROL OVER THE CHOICE OF THE CHILD. THIS IS MORE COMMON WITHIN THE IGBOS

Igbos are always very happy when the child is male but indifferent when a female, more expecially if the family is xpecting a male after series of female children

PLs Can you play films through USB on PS3?

snakova:
Emboldened, not God but the son, understand.At least its proven that the bible is a masterpiece best selling edited piece of work, but not the infallible word of GOD. Why not try out the Koran? You may just be captivated by its solutions driven psyche. Try and read 'Quran, the mathematical miracle' by Ahmed Deedat, and a host of other works by Ahmed Deedat. If you sincerely seek GOD's truth, I don't doubt that you would find it. The koran challenges its detractors to find faults in it but they have failed over the ages. Try your luck, maybe you would be guided by such. poor soul. And about your archeological 'discoveries' just watch the movie "WHO WROTE THE BIBLE' BY ROBERT BECKFORD, and Academic Theologian.

If you are an academician you will understand that before you can disapprove somebody's work you have to come out with provened facts and figures which Robert Beckford and Mohammed did not do. This is just naratioin of his journey to discredit a work without justification against a yardstick.

Try harder to look at the links i provided

^^^Pls read and your bigotry will be healed

http://www.givingananswer.org/articles/koran.html

^^^Pls read and your bigotry will be healed

http://www.givingananswer.org/articles/koran.html

@ Snakova

If you don't know, recently there were discoveries of the original manuscript of John by the archaeologist dated back to thousands of years. and the accounts where very through and detailed. And thousands of discoveries at the new work museum points to the fact that surely it cant be far from truth. Simply you took the portion of the bible that suits you and you disapproved the other. why cant you disapproved everything? Your Mohammed said yes Jesus was real and born of Mary without natural conception, he went around healing, but when it came to the point of being God, he said he was telling lies because Mohammed never and can not understand the misery behind it. And since he wanted his own religion by force he came up with some twist he couldn't explain and had his followers receive it by force. No need to accept any portion of the bible since you don't not believe in the message. And never call Jesus a prophet because Mohammed never saw him and know him, he only read about him. Mohammed had no prove that the quaran came from heaven, why can't you ask you teachers what is the prove that quaran came down from heaven and no one saw him when he was receiving it.

snakova:
Just watch 'who wrote the bible', a film made by a christian theologian Robert Beckford. Its available online although some people edit it so that you would miss some of the juicy parts. There it clearly states that the bible was made and influenced by men, and most of the time they were not under the spell of some unknown 'holy spirit' but under the control of some powerful emotion or leaders. Someone highlighted the council of Nicaea 300 years after christ where he was eventually upgraded to GOD. Its true and the reason for that was to destroy the holy christian faith. You see the leader then (very powerful, cant remember his name) saw the potential of christianity and sought to use that potential to his benefit, thus becoming a christian. He sanctioned the council and made sure that he transformed christ into the image of the GOD he wanted to follow, just like the ancients had done with all of GOD's prophets messages and books of the past, thereby corrupting the pure religion of GOD. Thats why books that were seen to describe christ as less than GOD were excluded from the canon and even made heresy. Even christ's brothers never refered to him as GOD by our good teacher, you just need to research it to find out the truth. Thats the reason why GOD had to send the FINAL prophet to correct all the wrongs inputed in the Bible by those corrupted scribes. The problem is that most christians don't know any more than their pastor tells them, and any time there's something they face thats beyond comprehension, they just claim that its a lack of the holy ghost. For me, its just a lack of conviction to see beyond the human desires, because I know every christian has felt at one point or the other that  there's something wrong with whats he's practicing but the lack of conviction to do what is right keeps them rooted to their misguided ways. There's some right in the bible, but the wrong far outweighs the right.

So if you believe that some people wrote the bible, and the bible was wrong. Then why should you believe a man that says it drop from heaven and had no prove, nobody was there at all. Dont you see it that it is based on lies and lies.

LagosShia:
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if you review my thread :"Can God Have A Son?" properly, you will definitely see that the question is not whether or not Jesus is a "son of God".the question has to do whether or not he is "the only begotten son of God"."begotten" means "not made/created".this word "begotten" sends a literal meaning and not a figurative one.it would mean that Jesus is God's son like you are your father's and mother's son and i am also.

if we are talking in the figurative sense that all of us are figuratively "sons" of God,then that is understandable even though we muslims prefer not to use the word "son" even in the figurative sense to describe ourselves in relation to almighty God.actually this word "son" is avoided altogether by muslims in describing themselves as "sons of God" because the christians and trinitarians particularly who have given God a literal son (Jesus) who is said to have been "begotten" and "not made" have made the figurative expression of "son of God" infamous in the eyes of muslims.

now going into the bible itself we find many sons of God in the figurative sense.and in the new testament itself too,we read the figurative meaning of "son of God":

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God".(Roman 8:14)

when examining the bible closely,we also see that in fact Jesus is not a "begotten son of God" as the christians want us to believe and try to project a literal meaning.the word "begotten" is an interpolation.it is a word added by bible authors and editors to serve their doctrines that make Jesus divine.it is unfortunate that christians do not follow what the bible teaches but the bible has to follow what christians believe.these bible authors and editors backed by doctors in religion have dropped the word "begotten" from the bible when they published the Revised Standard Version of the King James Bible.so as we can see,the literal meaning of the term "son of God" refering to Jesus,who is said to have being "begotten" is not supported in the bible at all.it is supported in the councils of nicea and in the minds of christians that smuggled it into the bible and added the word "begotten".the word "begotten" as i tried to explain is an interpolation.it is not found in the bible at all when bible manuscripts are examined.the RSV has dropped the word.as for the other versions of the bible that maintain the word "begotten",they continue to deceive their followers that Jesus is a "sepcial son of God" and not a figurative one but a literal one.

you can further review my thread:"Can God Have A Son?":

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-811919.0.html[/b]

What gave you an indication that you are correct with your interpolation? Even the greatest of all profs have investigated the spiritual Nd misery things of God and yet not gotten it right so you have not added to wisdom but only twisted yours.

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

During His trial before the Jewish leaders, the High Priest demanded of Jesus, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God” (Matthew 26:63). “’Yes, it is as you say,’ Jesus replied. ‘But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven’” (Matthew 26:64). The Jewish leaders responded by accusing Jesus of blasphemy (Matthew 26:65-66). Later, before Pontius Pilate, “The Jews insisted, ‘We have a law, and according to that law He must die, because He claimed to be the Son of God’” (John 19:7). Why would His claiming to be the Son of God be considered blasphemy and be worthy of a death sentence? The Jewish leaders understood exactly what Jesus meant by the phrase “Son of God.” To be the Son of God is to be of the same nature as God. The Son of God is “of God.” The claim to be of the same nature as God—to in fact be God—was blasphemy to the Jewish leaders; therefore, they demanded Jesus’ death, in keeping with Leviticus 24:15. Hebrews 1:3 expresses this very clearly, “The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His being.”

Another example can be found in John 17:12 where Judas is described as the “son of perdition.” John 6:71 tells us that Judas was the son of Simon. What does John 17:12 mean by describing Judas as the “son of perdition”? The word perdition means “destruction, ruin, waste.” Judas was not the literal son of “ruin, destruction, and waste,” but those things were the identity of Judas' life. Judas was a manifestation of perdition. In this same way, Jesus is the Son of God. The Son of God is God. Jesus is God made manifest (John 1:1, 14).

First of all, even if the phrase “Son of Man” is a reference to Jesus' humanity, it is not a denial of His deity. By becoming a man, Jesus did not cease being God. The incarnation of Christ did not involve the subtraction of deity, but the addition of humanity. Jesus clearly claimed to be God on many occasions (Matthew 16:16,17; John 8:58; 10:30). But in addition to being divine, He was also human (see Philippians 2:6-. He had two natures (divine and human) conjoined in one person.

Further, Scripture indicates that Jesus was not denying His deity by referring to Himself as the Son of Man. In fact, it is highly revealing that the term “Son of Man” is used in Scripture in contexts of Christ's deity. For example, the Bible says that only God can forgive sins (Isaiah 43:25; Mark 2:7). But as the “Son of Man,” Jesus had the power to forgive sins (Mark 2:10). Likewise, Christ will return to Earth as the “Son of Man” in clouds of glory to reign on Earth (Matthew 26:63-64). In this passage, Jesus is citing Daniel 7:13 where the Messiah is described as the "Ancient of Days," a phrase used to indicate His deity (cf. Daniel 7:9).

Further, when Jesus was asked by the high priest whether He was the “Son of God” (Matthew 26:63), He responded affirmatively, declaring that He was the “Son of Man” who would come in power and great glory (verse 64). This indicated that Jesus Himself used the phrase “Son of Man” to indicate His deity as the Son of God.

Finally, the phrase “Son of Man” also emphasizes who Jesus is in relation to His incarnation and His work of salvation. In the Old Testament (Leviticus 25:25-26, 48-49; Ruth 2:20), the next of kin (one related by blood) always functioned as the "kinsman-redeemer" of a family member who needed redemption from jail. Jesus became related to us “by blood” (that is, He became a man) so He could function as our Kinsman-Redeemer and rescue us from sin.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/son-of-man.html
third link

DivideUs:
on the contrary, you not able to prove that he is, is his proof. You should be able to sell your product

What more do you still want because you will still ask? Does God eats, Does He goes to toilet, Does He sleeps, etc.

http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/debate/part1.htm

Second link i am sending

maclatunji:
Open another thread for your postulations. We are here to thrash-out the issue. Is Jesus the son of God?

It is obvious that the claim is not defendable from whatever angle we look at it. And that my people shows that the principles upon which a large chunk of human beings live are a fraud!

You have not shown any prove to disclaim such

DivideUs:
^yes u can if you corrected some flaws, and by the way Mohammed (saw) never claimed to have writen the book, it was reveled to him.

As for the Jewish and christain beliefs, Islam only corrects the wrong part of the doctrine as we belive in both Moses and Jesus ok

No you don't believe in Him, you only read and know about some things about him.
This is to believe in something.

You accept that that thing exists, you work in that thing, and take that thing as the only true thing. that is believe

DivideUs:
^yes u can if you corrected some flaws, and by the way Mohammed (saw) never claimed to have writen the book, it was reveled to him.

As for the Jewish and christain beliefs, Islam only corrects the wrong part of the doctrine as we belive in both Moses and Jesus ok

why is it only the flaws you went for, because you have a motive. And the same flaws where only flaws to him without insight to what it really meant. He choose to pick some he could change and left the other. Who was there with him when he claimed it was revealed to him" only him" and no one was there with only the animal that could not speak.

If Mohammed (SAW) was born several years after the resuurection of Jesus CHrist, and part of those things he wrote where inside the bible that existed before he was born. Then why did he had to beleive some part and left the others.
Then there most be a motive or some one twisted the truth for alot of reasons. I can not meet a chemistry textbook created by Ababio, reproduce my own and say mine is the original.

http://www.allabouttruth.org/history-of-the-holy-bible-faq.htm

DivideUs:
Jesus is not son of god, like so many beliefs in the christian religion the idea was taken from the Greek history where one of the gods zues impregnated a human and gave birth to Hercules, another is the celebration of Christmas, that also is borrowed from the pagans when the dry season come in and the leaves of plants start to die around the December period this pagans bring in a plant into their home so as to preserve the life of the plant as long as they possibly can like the Christians do at Christmas now, and its a known fact that Jesus was not born in December but rather sometime in the middle of the year.

Isaak newton who is about the worlds most revered scientist and philosopher who believed in biblical prophecies also believes, worshipping Christ as God was idolatry, to him the fundamental sin'.

almost every thing in Christianity is borrowed, the cross (pagan worship), Christmas, and zues like god. look into it.

someone wrote begotten earlier, can you please tell me what that means?

Isaac Newton was not born when Jesus was alive and he had the same believes as you are doing now so no difference.
I told you that HIstory can be changed but the facts behind history can never be changed. The word christian appeared first in the bible and it was because of the people that lived around Jesus saw that after His resurrection there were some people behaving and doing things like him, they were astonished and began to term them as "Christ like" that is christians.
SO  were did zues came from and hercules, where did he go, pls needs some answer?

Do any man knows the road he will take to heaven or anywhere where he dies?
Who will direct man where to go when he dies?
What principle or theory can prove where man will go? Except lies

I believe there are a lot of question Man will ask God.