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demmymoney:
I didn't say irresponsible sex is the cause of abortion

I said abortion can b prevented if two responsible Adults have responsible sex

and I asked how and when do you judge responsibility? I am yet to get your answers

Dapcity007:
U don't consider undue societal and financial burden for the man

He his punished by law since he has no resources to take care of the child

Sent to jail

The woman raises the child as a single mother with govt welfare

Single parenting is the worst form of parenting for a child


Remember these is ultimately the woman's choice to do these destroying the man and the child simultaneously

So, you say women weaponise their children against men right? Meaning the choice to birth the child wasn't out of love for the child but for revenge against the man! Mind you, this is only hypothetical, single parenting isn't the most desirable type of parenting, neither is it the worst! Gosh you are so unbelievable! The least the child needs is one loving guardian, that doesn't even have to be a biological parent! Two or more are better but one is the minimum requirement! If none is guaranteed then such a zygote should be aborted simple!

demmymoney:
Abortion for any reason watsover except for cases of rape, incest and pregnancy leading to death of the woman is morally wrong and demonic!!!!!!!

so your argument is now based on morality and demonic influences eh? Whose version of morality are we using here? Don't tell me it didn't occur to you that morality differs according to region, religion and epoch? also, whose pantheon of demons are we blaming here?
P.S I don't know if pantheon of demons is factually correct here but we learn everyday eh?

demmymoney:
Allowing radical feminism, LGBTQ and abortionists is intelligence?

Even atheism is intelligence ryt

No wonder people were so intelligent during the FRENCH revolution that they were killing themselves like dogs tuehhhhhhh

disagree if you must but yes it is intelligence

Dapcity007:
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Your situational ethics is sexist for these core reason

The man is not responsible to have a child and wants abortion the woman refuses?

Pls solve it

the woman keeps it having accepted sole responsibility for the child post birth, it is that simple, I am pro children, just pro children with responsible parents

Dapcity007:
Why the need for pro choice logic and need for contraceptives arguements

I'm must admit I am appauled but also amazed seeing your likes

No need for pro choice options

Advocate more for abortion for its own sake only option

when pregnancy is a by product and not the purpose of sex, then abortion becomes a logical solution, I don't see how many motherless babies you have adopted given your strong pro life stance

Ibime:
Their guy Giuliani knows that sêx is a pleasure. Old soldier never dies.

bahdt guy

demmymoney:
So wats the sole reason for sex??

there is no "sole" reason for sex there is fun, bonding, commerce/transaction, therapy, culture, societal initiation and validation, e.t.c your understanding of the functions and purpose of sex is too basic

Dapcity007:
But women bias controls family court

Leftist and anti-Men are inseperable

so you say, my take, fairness and conscience guides liberals

demmymoney:
I know exactly what you know too about responsible sex and sex education

no you don't! You claim irresponsible sex us the cause of abortions, I have been trying to find out since what your understanding of irresponsible sex is

Dapcity007:
Ans my question

and your question is?

Dapcity007:
Solving a problem from its effects not causation

Your thinking pattern is scientifically unreliable

Who solves a problem without solving it's cause?

it is not and has never been a problem until you religious purists decided to make it your problem! abortion is as old as time and as old as prostitution itself! It has always been done by women for as long as women have been having sex, your politico religious bias won't let you accept this simple fact

Dapcity007:
Explain the fem centric bias of family court with relation to both decisions

I don't know that family court has a fem centric bias, but if it does, it does so with good reason being that of both genders, only the female can't deny responsibility for a child, so that bias is needed to bring male responsibility into the equation and mind you, here we are talking about birthed children not faceless, soulless zygotes

A40:
You can see the misogyny and sexism oozing from their posts. I pity women that have to bear the seed of these people. To them women are nothing more than baby machines and factories.

How can any reasonable human being see what pregnancy does to women and still spew such stupidity. It's insane

the idea that the only purpose and end goal of sex is procreation is the entire absurdity here, this religious school of thought believes procreation to be a sacred duty

Dapcity007:
Solve the dilemma

a dilemma no one else but you sees fortunately. A false dilemma birthed in your fevered dreams where you have control over women's reproductive rights

demmymoney:
Yawns***

bwahahahahaha such an intelligent conservative! sorry another oxymoron alert! lols

demmymoney:
U claim u have sex education then u should know what responsible sex and irresponsible sex is

Ahbi u believe women are so dumb to not know how to be responsible during sex

I know what I know, the question is what do you know? You specifically, you!

demmymoney:
But they can Bleep irresponsibly ahbi and have zygotes in their bodies and dispose at will ahbi?

they can furk yes! That is an almost exclusively human function and no, responsibility after birth outweighs responsibility during pregnancy so shelve your vague non concept of responsibility in one corner abeg and procreation is in most cases a by product of sex, not the reason for sex

Dapcity007:
Solve these dilemma without being sexist or given any gender new privilege

A man want his lady to abort his child because he's not responsible she refuses

A woman wants a man to allow her abort her child the man refuses

a woman can refuse to abort a zygote on a man's request but a woman doesn't need a man's permission to allow her abort unless within the confines of marriage and even then the final decision is hers not the man's! He may choose to divorce her on those grounds and that is his own choice! She can even go ahead and not tell him at all and he won't be any wiser. Not every pregnancy must end in childbirth! Responsibility goes far beyond birthing! At which point hypocrites like you start insulting such parents for being irresponsible welfare dependents

demmymoney:
Then such women should not have sex in the first place chikena!!!!

not your choice to make fortunately and that is the entire point! The purpose of sex amongst humans isn't exclusively for procreation, in fact, that is the least likely reason for sex amongst humans, so in cases where pregnancy is a by product of sex had for other myriad of reasons, the woman has the right to terminate it and in doing such shows responsibility

demmymoney:
Baba goan suck ur dog's dick or better still goan suck Biden's dick

Bloody stupor!!!!

quick question, is "bloody stupor" supposed to be an insult? just curious

PrideofLincoln1:
I don't know what they get from dialogueing with these subhuman mongrels in Umudike. The more you dialogue with these servile dogs of Trump, the more you fuel their lunacy.

since this is an issue of policy, not election politics I soften my non engagement policy a little, besides it is a good opportunity to ridicule them

Dapcity007:
Killing babies makes u wise OK

yes, terminating unwanted zygotes and sparing the children and humans they'd have become the adverse effects of rejection and neglect and the extended society the domino effect that arises from the characters such neglect shapes them to become yes, I believe by comparison I am wiser than you at least

demmymoney:
Why will she sleep with such irresponsible men in the first place

and how is responsibility scored or judged? You have been vague and wishy washy on that question from the start

demmymoney:
Then we should advocate for women to kill their babies or stop getting pregnant?

what babies? their body, their risks, their responsibilities, their choice

Dapcity007:
All women want to kill there babies

Very very deep

no women who are unready for motherhood have the exclusive social and moral right to terminate the zygote with or without permission from the sperm donor! Chikena! I hope that is simple enough for you to grasp?

Dapcity007:
Evening

My concern because its my sperm, my DNA

Me and the lady had mutual sex

I want my baby

I'm a responsible man

I want to father my seed

I hope you don't for the collective intelligence of the society

demmymoney:
Are they complaining it's a burden

Wat do u know about being a woman

not as much as experiential existence can teach but far much more than ten lifetimes can teach you obviously and it is not about complaints or otherwise, medically pregnancy is the exclusive burden of the female gender and your sermonising won't scratch that fact

Dapcity007:
With your logic all women should not give birth


Very deep

maybe my mistake was saying "a burden" instead of "the burden", I made the other of mistake of thinking my point could be easily extrapolated by you my bad, sometimes I forget how slow you guys are. Saying pregnancy is the medical burden of the female gender is a scientific fact, and as such the choices to be made in handling this burden should exclusively belong to them without sermonising from clueless men like me and you

Dapcity007:
All Women
Marvelous

are you losing the plot so soon already? I already said yes and I addressed it in terms of women as a gender, answer my question or are you looking for an out already?

Dapcity007:
So women pregnancy is a burden for all women

Wow

Liberal logic again

Motherhood is torment to all women

Leftist reasoning

medically, pregnancy is a burden for women and women alone so yes
Socially and financially it is a burden for both women and men too only in the case of men it is a choice only not a duty, especially when extant laws do not make it so or are unable to enforce it even when they make it so! so what equal punishment do men face for "irresponsible sex" according to you again?

edi287:
I personally believe abortion should only take places in cases of rape, incest and when it brings harm to the mother.
Anything after 8-10 weeks is an issue for me imo.

now when you frame it as your opinion and give your reasons, you are well understood and can be engaged constructively, but some idiots only espouse that stance because it is "the conservative" stance and nothing else