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Keballl:
No wonder you were labelled a biased Sansa fan

just a little bias isn't that bad is it?

TheKingIsHere:
Yeah, same thing goes for Sam. And guess what, Sam has been more helpful and useful than Sansa. #fact

I hope she will look like a fool to survive when the night king comes knocking on the door

that is why there's no jack of all trades, there are areas of specialization! Jon is the night king and army of the dead expert! Sansa is the living scumbags of westeros expert, arya is the beyond westeros expert and bran is the CIA/NSA so none is useless like that naughty voice in your head i warned you not to listen to is telling you

TheKingIsHere:
Boo hoo hoo. Did I strike dem Sansa fan boy nerves?

Please spare me all dem Sansa have feelings for family crap. What idea does Sansa have to keep her family save from the white walkers? Can you tell us?

Sansa is useless, fact!!

so you finally read the memo hope you didn't get migraines?
FYI nightwalkers aren't the only threat

TheKingIsHere:
Hehehe, check this thread again, you have been dancing to my tune and doing the splits just to defend poor Sansa.

Her death will be soothing to watch .

And it is going to be a very frustrating and long wait for you i only obliged you, as i do to other confused people

TheKingIsHere:
Yeah, it is in my head and it is also in your head too. So what's your point? Your logic is also flawed and baseless

I explained my logic-------> logically, unless that is, except you missed the memo
So far, you've failed to explain yours

Keballl:
Guy forget all this long sweet stories you are typing. Sansa was suprised and not too happy seeing Arya prove her mettle against a tested battle Ox like Briene. The expression on her face was transparent enough that she felt a bit sad and handicapped. Though, i don't subscribe to the fnotion that she is useless, she has seen enough to read even the most difficult treachery around her. She is the smartest Stark around not including the time machine cheat Bran !! .

It is that displeasure LF will try to use to pit two sisters together

Yes it is exactly how it will happen!

In the world of la-la fantasy land that is

Magnifico2000:
Now let me address ur response one after the other.
She wasnt even there wen robb stark was killed plus she allowed her father accept that he is a traitor indirectly causing his father's death.

The plausible argument u are talking about, both sansa and jon were both right in their opinions. Sansa wanted the catles to b taken away from d children of the house dat betrayed them while jon said no way! U cant purnish a child for his father's sins. So dey are both logical

Lastly,yhe writers or showrunners have the right to kill characters anyhow dey like. Do you want to tell me that if the writers want robbstark alive or any dead character alive uptill now they cant do it?

Maybe sansa is not useless per se but she is not smart.

Oh not again!

Sansa's argument didn't make lord stark recant his claims that cersei children were not fathered by robert baratheon, varys made that deal with Ned for the safety of his two daughters! Understand please! Understand!

Secondly, she didn't need to be there to know how Robb stark died! It was common news that the need for the Frey army plus the need to repair his damaged honor with the Frey's made him accept edmure Tully's wedding to a Frey hence the red wedding hence his death!
Stop rewriting the narratives!

The writers designed the characters and did so in particular ways, let's not redesign the characters for them please

TheKingIsHere:
Guy you no get talk. Because he said she is jealous, you conclude that it is all in his head but yet you believe that she is happy, sad and observing all at once from the same expression and it ain't all in your own head right? This is delusion de grandeur.

Well, you are a Sansa fan boy so I understand.

Yes because my theories are backed by plot and character build ups! Yours is legitimized by you alone using whatever flawed logic your imagination can conjure hence the "in your head"

TheKingIsHere:
Calm down bro. Don't get worked up over BraniacX comment. Just dish his question back at him and watch him break dance while doing the splits.

were you describing yourself? oh my goodness!

Magnifico2000:
Dont ever say that again or i will change it for you. What do you mean i watch wihout understanding?
At that point in time, did sansa know about littlefinger's plan to marry her to ramsey bolton?
FYI mr understanding, littlefinger had not made his plans known to sansa at that point in time. Be careful next time the way u use "understanding"

Knowing or not knowing littlefinger's future plans for her was irrelevant! What was relevant was what she knew amongst which were
1. Littlefinger rescued her from kingslanding from what would have been a certain death from a vengeful cersei lannister.
2. Littlefinger was sheltering her in the vale under a false identity to keep her safe.
3. She had no power of her own then and littlefinger was lord protector "paramount" of the vale then so if he was useful for nothing else, he was useful as her shield.
4. She had seen littlefinger murder a couple of times to keep loose lips shut, first ser donthos, also lady lyssa arryn her aunty from whom she heard how littlefinger convinced her to help him murder her husband lord Jon arryn so obviously, he was very ruthless and wasn't finicky about the importance of anybody he chose to kill so naturally, she didn't want to give him a reason to want to kill her.
5. Littlefinger confessed to loving her mum and to loving her too, while she'll be a fool to believe him, but the possibility of that combined with his self confessed goal of sitting on the iron throne with her as his queen meant she realized she was of importance "alive" to littlefinger and that was her leverage on him no matter how small and given the fact that he wielded power, she was determined to use that to her advantage and guess what? She has used it to her advantage in the bastardbowl and is still using it up till now keeping the vale aligned to the north when they have little strategic reason to be so.
And yet, some of you who "jonsnow"(know nothing) still call her useless!

You see why i say you lack genuine understanding of what you've been watching all these while? You see?
Honestly, i can't be explaining everything to you all the time you show poor understanding of the series! It's exhausting!
So if you don't ask nicely next time, i won't bother.

TheKingIsHere:
This is baseless.

If you believe that she can be happy, sad and observing with the expression why is it difficult for you to accept that she can also be jealous and bitter with that same expression?

Let me throw your own question back at you. Can you decipher the expression of ? Why do you believe it is happy and sad at the same time and not jealous and bitter? Oh, because you are a Sansa fan boy right?

Dem Sansa fans will do anything to make her look good.

Sansa death will be soothing to watch.

Because there'll have to be a narrative that warrants jealousy and bitterness but apart from inside your head, there's none she and arya had met after many years on good terms and arya accorded her her title "lady stark" commenting that it suits her, arya talks about her kill lists which she obviously laughs of, bran confirms it so she realizes the seriousness but still she is still her old mischievous little arya so she can't fathom how arya is dangerous enough to kill, she watches her spar brienne and she sees arya the assassin for the first time so she's surprised, sad about how she lost her child sister who has become an adult and happy still another stark is back in winterfell! In all her suffering, she has come to realize the true importance of family so naturally, she feels a maternal big. sister love/protection feeling for bran and arya and is sad to see that they don't need it, they're adults capable of taking their own risks without her consent and just like her mother, this bothers her, she wants to keep them safe after loosing so many family members to horrible deaths. For Jon who she only gave polite notice before, she now has genuine love and reverence as her big brother, who went out alone and proved himself a leader and a warrior with the exact same reputation for honor their father has and naturally sees lord eddard stark reborn in him and so she supported his anscension to power as against hers and she is dead determined to protect Jon from even himself and the mistakes only honorable men can make even without his permission!

Sansa is a lady that has decided to put family first ahead of every other thing and as such deserves commendation and as she said, "come winter, the wolves must band together to survive, for the lone wolf will die" winter is already here! So is the direwolves pack! And sansa is determined they'll survive! By keeping them together so stop all your sansa is useless claptrap! I have given you as much interaction as i can afford today and P.S don't listen to the voice in your head too often, it lies! Too often!

Magnifico2000:
Facial expressions dont really represnt someone intentions or feelings. You all should forget about d look on sansa's face until she exhibits the character in her.

oh ho! you see yourself? This all started with you insisting the look on sansa's face depicted nothing else but jealousy and now this? see why its all always been in your head? So we should forget about the looks now abi? abeg define confusion sef, then look at yourself in the mirror because logic has failed you and inconsistency has nailed you!

Magnifico2000:
Thats the point. Why should she save littlefinger? Or is she not aware of the role LF played in the capturing of her father.

and if littlefinger dies prematurely, witless lord arryn a victim of mental instability becomes lord of the vale, the Bolton's still hold winterfell and the Frey's riverrun! Where would that leave her? you really do watch without understanding don't you?

TheKingIsHere:
Lol, i thought you said she was happy, you could have showed us a picture of the happy face. Dem sansa fans are funny set of people.

nope! Its all in your head again! you were asking me how else i could interpret Sanaa's facial expression apart from the pick you made in your head "jealousy" so i threw back the challenge to you to interpret any facial expression i choose so you'll see how baseless your argument is because even when you get it right, I'll just go on insisting you're wrong, just like you're doing now so, are you ready?

TheKingIsHere:
Yawns...

Can you show us a picture of the happy expression on her face while watching arya fight? If you cant then it is obvious the delusion is in your head not mine. i aint the writer that made sansa character useless.

Yawns.........



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Yawns again......
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How about i do this, I'll give you a face! And you'll interpret the expression

TheKingIsHere:
What?? Seriously you guys are funny. Stop all this bullsh*t excuses for sansa abeg.

First you guys said she was surprised. another said she was haapy for arya, now you are here saying she was observing. Which should we accept now?

First, it is "a bullshit excuse' only inside your head!
So you'll forgive the rest of us for not having access to your twisted little shitty opinions on sansa and sharing that sentiment with you

And why can't she be happy, sad and surprised at the same time? is the concept of mixed emotions strange to you?

TheKingIsHere:
So she is sad because she is seeing arya fight very well? does that even make sense?

You guys should stop looking for excuse for this girl. She is useless. That the fact

she's sad because she's observing that like her, arya lost her childhood and innocence too

encrypt:
Sighs...that was how many seasons ago sorry i didnt cram her exact lines..

don't worry fam you're forgiven

Yonce:
But they often called Rhaegar "the last dragon".

I have a theory (emphasis on theory) that Targaryens were generally had a high tolerance to the flames, and that somehow proved they were capable of taming and riding dragons especially as they kept bloodlines pure through incest. But as they began marrying outsiders the trait began to skip several offspring (like Viserys for example) but was dominant in Rhaegar and Dany.

Amd when heat killed Viserys Dany actually meant he lacked the trait and was no true "Dragon"

Showise, until Danny, when people talked about targaryens being dragons, they used it figuratively to describe the dragon-ish qualities they believe are to be expected from a dragon or in human terms descendant of dragon riders! Amongst which were fearlessness, ruthlessness, domineering, all conquering, commanding presence/attitude and rhaegar was all these while his brother viserys obviously wasn't and that's why ser jorah mormont called him a lizard instead but after Danny and her miraculous birthing of dragons again, her reference as being a dragon belongs to a different class of its own

Stegomiah:
There is no greater evil than ramsey in the series..... He's a psychopath

Even jeoffrey is a learner compared to ramsey
Although both will make a deadly team

What he did to theon.... Psychologically is something that is almost important to get back from
He broke him.... Same way neegan broke rick
Cut his manhood
Pretended to feed on it
Sent a piece to his father
Even Yara later discovered he's beyond saving
Till now, that confident, gorgeous, ladiesman, robbstark best friend is not the same person anymore
Now he looks like someone with congenital torticollis

He also killed his father, step mother and a BABY
Raped sansa,
Wrote one bad ass letter

So, ramsey is in a class of his own when it comes to craziness
Myranda learnt the hard way.....
He even fed her to the dogs after she was dead

I may not like sansa.... But it's not fair for anyone to say she could have outsmarted or manipulated her way thru ramsey bolton
There is no way..... Not even cersei

And Drogo is not ramsey.... He's no psychopath

Even in death he was still ahead of his game.... Killed rickon.... Almost won the battle of bastards
He had John getting all emotional

When it comes to the greatest male television villians of all time

Ramsey bolton will make top3
Another is Neegan

For women category.... No other person but Ms. Ferguson

Amen!


**drops mic**

PreacherX:
The way Jamie was pushed in the water + all the heavy armor and HBO not showing him in the Trailer, I think Jamie might be dead by drowning or captured in which she might want to execute him or pass a message to Cersie through him which I doubt. GRRM is evil, I pray that's not the end of Jamie Lannister!

It will settle the valonquar theory once and for all at least

armadeo:
I understand her point. Chai waiting for a whole week. It's like and itch you can't scratch.

In the voice of tortmund giantsbane happy shitting itching

armadeo:
No it's not. Last night my bro was raving about episode 4. He scrolled through at the office
And came home piping hot. Lol.

Almost broke my rule.

Now I have decided to start watching the Saturday before the season finale .

To complete it Monday night.

Maybe

Your loss bro! T'will be stale fufu by then

CecyAdrian:
Lol at 'Disneyland story endings'

But then, if Sansa wanted to help herself, avenge her family or even harm Ramsey. Her plan would have gone a long way (or a step sef) to succeed or even succeeded, remember she had maids who tended and took care of her after Ramsey's abuse in winterfell and maids know a lot of things.

oh you are determined to be disagreeable aren't you? there's no if! The maids who tended to her were Ramsay's, no better way to keep his abuse of her secret. The mole brienne planted to reach out to sansa and facilitate her escape got skinned by ramsay as a message to sansa and you expect any other maid to say or do sh***t for sansa? Really? let's be realistic here!
Even at that, in public, sansa held her head high despite her continuous abuse and goaded him about being a bastard repeatedly as her revenge and i believe you'll agree with me that doing that to ramsay takes guts.

PreacherX:
If Dany were poured that melting Iron that killed his Brother, she would have died too because there's a limit she can tolerate!

showise she has no limit so that molten gold wouldn't kill her if a funeral pyre couldn't

Ore000:
commenting for the first time on this thread, just wanna ask a question fam
who do u think can beat the mountain, dat half zombie, 7ft man-steel.it would be poetic if arya later kills him but bronn,the hound (brother) and jorah and jon not forgetting brienne are currently the best swordsmen and in this case swordwoman currently alive. damn whatever qyburn did to that guy astounds me

Good question, since you said beat not kill, arya, the hound, Jon, dario nahaaris, maybe bronn. Anybody skilled and faster would beat him, but he'll kill them all

Magnifico2000:
Please sir, tell me what has been happening?? I dont know everythig about GOT but my knowledge on the series can make me defend my statements.
Where are your own facts. Every1 knows sansa is silly and stupid.
Even Tyrion asked jon snow about sansa, if she is now smart. Go back and rewatch that scene.

1. Get the simple fact that sansa after her father's death was a political prisoner\hostage and her jailer was a sadistic, twisted, evil runt with no thought for consequences and as king answered to no one! She was alive because it pleased him to continue torturing her! Not kissing that sword would have earned her a quick death! She watched the same runt order the beheading of her father! Unless you are saying defiance and a certain death was a more smarter decision in which case you'll have to reevaluate yourself.

2. Sandor clegane was drunk on the fear of fire and battle mad that night he came and asked sansa to sing her a song. Given his violent reputation and his family's bloody history, traveling alone with him wasn't an option a sane lady would accept.

3. Littlefinger promised to take her out of kingslanding and she accepted contrary to your assertions! That plan was busted by lord varys with lady olena tyrell when he deduced the future ramifications of littlefinger having the potential heir of house stark within his grasp to manipulate.

4. Cersei said terrible things to her before or after her father was beheaded in her presence? She wanted to become joffery's queen before or after she saw him order her father's beheading? Get your facts straight man!

5. She said what she was forced to say as the prisoner of a shitty despot in order to stay alive. Even tyrion on hearing her say that told her kingslanding was a den of liars and that sansa was the worst liar of them all!

So i ask again, you are watching but do you think you're actually seeing?

Magnifico2000:
And who is the employee of thr month??

The gold loving castle seeker of course

Gbola5:
Well it burns faster than a fire would. You could quench a fire with enough water, meanwhile the gold would set immediately in the shape of whatever it was cast.

The speed of burning aside, the principle still withstands scrutiny
Molten gold would set in the shape of whatever it was cast--------> "after it cools" before that, it would char to death whatever biological entity that acts as the cast in less than a few minutes i think that is, unless you're fireproof like Danny! In a similar scenario as viserys's, unless her airways are blocked after the molten gold cools, danny simply needs to walk into a furnace and have the gold melt of

TheKingIsHere:
why?

you know I'm your boss on this thread and right now i have bronn aiming the scorpion at you! berra behave yaself

JhyMedex:
... Kips Taunting Jaime wit fvckin her.. ..
Myt not b d 1st item on his scale of preference.. bt I can assure u he's very much interested in it Alryt....

he's a bloody iron islander! Raping and stealing is their official sport so yes, why not fvck cersei silly if it can get him the throne? See? The throne is the price! Fvcking cersei like fighting for her, is just the means to his ends

encrypt:
She mentioned he's not a true targyerian.
That means
A. He's a bastard Or
B. He betrayed his own i.e selling dany off to the dothrakis

Wrong! She mentioned that he's not a true dragon! There's a difference you know