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Are we going to see the client face as well on this post?

Do you transport your workers to all these states or you simply source for labour locally? Your job standard has remained same irrespective of location, please do keep this up

rotecch77:
Update on abeokuta finishings work pics coming soon,

The client shows up at site today for the 1st day since we started the project and he was so happy to see the professionalism we give our work.

He is an Engr also.
Pics coming soo.

Thank you for the prompt response. But you didn't include the prices for steptiles Aluminum too, can you do that please?


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@DavSagacity The fact that your passport was issued in the rock city of abeokuta caused you any headache while travelling? Cos I still wonder why we all are always bent on getting it from Lagos, Abuja where these immigration officers milk us dry.

DavSagacity:
I did mine in their Abeokuta Office In April 2018. I paid 37k. I collected it 3 weeks after. While a man that got there after me did data capturing the same day before me and collected his passport right in my presence while I was asked to come back after a week to check if it is ready . When I tried to ask question how come the person that came after me collected his passport immediately .,,their response was " Did u pay the amount the man paid."....?
Kwarruption in immigration offices no be small Oooo

Do you take all your clients to the factory?
And where is this factory located?
Hope cost of transportation isn't much from there to like sites in ikorodu?
What are current prices of aluminum roofing sheets now?
How do we verify the sheets are full gauge and not below standard?

HsLBroker:
i think the best thing is for us to go to the factory together, so you see it physically and touch it physically, thanks

@money121 What is the cost of transportation that all these far places? Maybe a price range to deliver such items to ikorodu. Do you factor money for police, agbero and all in this costing?

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mufutau55:
Three coaches on both floors. I am a very tall man, so I needed a high ceiling when the POP is done.
All the lights were purchased from a Nairalander called Allcopacetic. The installation was done by non-Nairalander.
Thanks.

Hajji M.

@Hajji
How many coach of blocks did you have on the lintel level ? Two or three coach?

Those pop lightings are superb where they installed by a nairalander and for how much?

Did you do POP round the entire house too?

gbadexy:
some more beautiful finishing pictures

Good job I must say..

But then some plenty naira must have gone down in fixing this things oh

Coooool.. I'm seeing some synergy here by our building gurus collaborating on this defective structure.

I must say well-done and thanks to all the team.

At least let's have the before and after pictures so this can always be a learning point for all.

So what were the recommendations applied to correct those errors?

Send me quotations for cables and fittings required for a typical 4bedroom bungalow all room ensuite,with waiting room...making providing for inverter installation as well. thanks

Kó topè oh bros..

So regular rod size would be used for this precast?

Any special mixture needed for the concrete?

saydfact:
ALSO - thanks for the surprised credit .

Thanks boss. The typical composition for the pre-cast lintel should be the listed if I'm right?

Cement
Granite
Sharp sand
Stone dust (is it required?)
Iron rods (what size?)

saydfact:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OK I LOSE THANKS SIR,,

So I can apply this style across the entire openings in the building? DOORS AND WINDOWS ONLY - USE NORMAL CASTING FOR ENTRANCE TERRACE.

I've replied your mail...

Meeee? Is there anything you have written on this properties forum that I haven't read sha? Below is the link to the lintel recommendation. So I can apply this style across the entire openings in the building?


https://www.nairaland.com/4133188/construction-6self-contain-hostel-frm-start

I'm certainly going to recommend this to my bricklayer, casting of all the windows and doors can be done in one day since I have this plenty planks from the improvised German floor and then arrange for the fittings over time, plenty aboki with excess strength full area.. Lolz

My external walls are all in 9inch while all internal wall is in 6inch so the sliced planks still come handy.

saydfact:
I. Presume you've NOT seen my post on saving money on lintel? Your workmen won't like it but it wld save you 200k... Search for it here on NL ..... I'm not sharing the link lol

Using same method on this project (pics attached)

Standard height for lintels is 2.1m equivalent of 9 blocks high.

Good luck

Appreciate your interest. If and when the need arises, we would get back to you please.

Regards!

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Good day oga Saydfact,
Having factored the huge cost of this German floor, it has been agreed that we simply fill all the hollow blocks holes with weak concrete of about 4 inch thick and continue straight to the blockwork stage. The room by room filling would be done and cemented.

Hope this cost containment wouldn't have any adverse effects now or in the future?

Lastly, can the 1x12 planks sliced into 2 for this DPC purpose still be useful for the lintel work? Is there a standard height for lintel casting?

Thank you!

saydfact:
THE QUOTE ABOVE IS NOT EXCESSIVE IF THE PERSON WAS BUDGETING FOR A 150mm SLAB - WHICH IS STANDARD; If you look at my estimate, I left the clause that I used 100mm (4inches) - if I used 150mm (6inches) it would run into something close to what you were given.

BUT if you adopt 4inches (which is OK) - see my advise below.

35 loads of filling sand. ---- ONLY SM1 ON SITE CAN VERIFY, YOU CAN BUY IN BITS eg 1st buy 5, then 5, then 5 etc

30 tonnes of granite. ---- YES,

4 loads of sharp sand. ---- I'LL ADVICE YOU BUY 3, WHATEVER IS LEFT WLD BE USED ELSEWHERE

120 bags of cement. ---- THATS MORE THAN YOU WLD USE IF ITS 100mm THICK SLAB BUT IF ITS 150mm THICK SLAB, THEN YOU NEED BETWEEN 115 - 140 (experience - calculation)

25 planks of 1*12*12. - YES, HE'S CORRECT - I ONLY GAVE YOU A MONEY SAVING HINT BY DIVIDING INTO 2 (this can only be done if thickness is 100mm [4inches], if ts 150mm [6inches] then you have to buy 24 planks....)

5 pounds of 3 inches nail. - thats about N250 * 5 = N1,250 so its OK.

What is the cost range for concrete mixer rental and transport in this our area? - 20K OR 25K (includes operator's fee)

Is it not economical to deploy plenty cheaper manpower instead of renting mixer? - MORE EXPENSIVE, AND MIGHT RUN INTO DAY 2.

@Saydfact what can I do without you

You just killed it once again. And thanks for all this free consultation you have been providing to me as a person on this project to this date, God is the only person that can reward you baba.

The project is close to Ogijo area. The cost of the filling sand is scary oh considering the quantity required.

See the funny quote I got, I'm sure he just picked figures from his head cos have been worrying him to send the German floor estimates since 2weeks.

35 loads of filling sand.
30 tonnes of granite.
4 loads of sharp sand.
120 bags of cement.
25 planks of 1*12*12.
5 pounds of 3 inches nail.

What is the cost range for concrete mixer rental and transport in this our area?

Is it not economical to deploy plenty cheaper manpower instead of renting mixer?

@ Saydfact Happy new year baba. Do you by chance have a contact in Arab contractors? I intend buying some fillings from them from the road constructions they are doing along Ikorodu Shagamu express road.

What is the cost of filling sand currently in ikorodu? Do you have a trusted supplier in that axis? I have the very high foundation requiring plenty fillings reason why i dont want to leave anything to chances right now on this project.

Can you also project required materials for the construction of German floor based on the attached drawings please? Are there any flaws noticed in the drawings also please?

Appreciate your selfless efforts as usual.

Hello chief,
Is this quotation in response to @buddie request above please?

Provide me with a wood work quotation please?

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@ money121 Can i get an rough estimate for roofing using 0.45 longspan aluminium or steptiles from attached drawing? It is a 4 bedroom bungalow without parapet, i'm yet to get a quotation for the woodwork either, would be glad if you can assist with that also. Site location is ikorodu

@ KolaShangOne Can i get an estimate for roofing using 0.45 longspan aluminium or steptiles from attached drawing? It is a 4 bedroom bungalow without parapet, i'm yet to get a quotation for the woodwork either.

Hello chief,
What is the total cost implication for below item?

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@Rotecch77 Was the pre-cast lintel used for all the openings (doors and window) on this structure?

What is the cost implication of this in terms of cost and materials in comparison to the traditional way of doing chain lintel?

Can one still go ahead to add a parapet to a structure as this having the pre-cast lintel?

rotecch77:
Take a look at this project, its pre-cast lintel.

It will save cost,bcs you can constructed few formwork and use it to cast many lintel.

It will save cost of labour also.
It will also save material while puring it inside the formwork
It can be transfer from one site to another


The de-merit
You can't pre-cast longer beam and lintel unless you have crane to carry it.

Ok now..Quite a number of builders on this forum also agree with what you said below really.

And again thank you.

saydfact:
LINTEL is a LINTEL sir - A bridge to allow you continue your blockwork - it can be done in wood, iron, concrete (our fathers used wood more)..

For Roof Parapet, you would be required to do a beam to tie all elements together.....

ON WHAT YOU REFERRED TO AS A CHAIN LINTEL - I call it A WASTE OF MONEY (my opinion).... if its a bungalow its a luxury not a necessity, if its a storey building its a waste because you wld have a beam..

Thanks

Thanks for reverting to me..

So one can incorporate a parapet then to serve as the beam and roof support while this using precast concrete for all the door and window openings?

skimanski:
The composition is Sand, Granite and Cement with Steel Reinforcement.

Chain Lintel might be better for Bungalows so as to serve for as Roof Support Later

@ skimanski is that a precast lintel you have there in this picture?

And what is the composition? Sand, granite, cement, stone dust etc?

Any reinforcement added also?

Is this advisable for a bungalow without doing the traditional chain lintel?

skimanski:
To reduce overall load been transferred from Pent floor, We shall be adopting Short Lintels on Doors only and Precast Parapet for Roof areas

Hello chief,
The precast lintel was done for all openings (windows and doors) alone?

No chain lintel done around the building either?

This your cast lintel design can't incorporate paraphet
Right?

How popular is this proposed lintel design, cos it would largely save a lot of cost really sha

saydfact:
100mm thick precast isn't small - just allow it set well for about a week before lifting them and Yes, the polythene / cement bag is to prevent them sticking to the surface......

Goodluck

Merci beaucoup for helping to clear the air on this. I would settle for the plumbing layout then before the german floor is cast jeje

Quite appreciate talking with you this morning.. Remain blessed

buddie:
Oga rotecch77

How are you able to mark out all those pipe layout and lay them such that everything clicks before the casting is done for either German floor or decking as shown in this your picture?

Please pardon my ignorance abeg

Oga rotecch77

How are you able to mark out all those pipe layout and lay them such that everything clicks before the casting is done for either German floor or decking as shown in this your picture?

Please pardon my ignorance abeg

rotecch77:
progress on non nairalander project at ikorodu area.
here we handle only plumbing for the client

And again oga Saydfact comes to my rescue.

If I read you clearly, a good plumber can study the plan and mark and lay out all the required pipes even before the German floor and all these comes with precision.

I know those wall pipes shouldn't be a challenge to bury in the walls really.

Once again thank you for not getting tired of my questions

saydfact:
Afternoon and thanks for checking out my post.

In more standard designs where there are a lot of piping (conduit system) - you can run the pipes before german floor OR later by cutting into the german floor (offcourse at extra cost)

But in residential designs (especially the private ones) - designs are done in a way to minimize this, or pipes are run in the ceiling to reduce cost of cutting...


IF CONDUIT HAVE IMPLICATIONS ? YES but that's only if you don't use quality and appropriate pipes plus workmen...If in doubt, you can use both system or lay the 4'' toilets pipe on surface and electrical and water pipes conduit.

Regards