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MadCow1:
O Well.. I concur...


www.nairaland.com/attachments/4001359_20160721152947_jpege0a3dd54feef9625b91766900a96f759


There is obviously no separation of religion and State in Nigeria anymore so people should be allowed to bring their religious fhuckery to school.


Christians can wear their religious parafinelia to school..

Traditionalists as well..


You biitches can't eat your cake and have it. Today its Hijab, next will be that during morning assembly, prayers should be in both Christian and Muslim mode to accommodate for both sides.

Fhuck the free world.. Congrats Muslims. Keep up the fight. Next is for them to fight for it to be enforced Nationwide.

Christians have no religious wear. If they do, tell me the name of the one you all so wear to church.

captaing59:
yes i have heard of him and even attended his alqah once in ede. I would appreciate your assistance

na'am, gotten your pm

captaing59:
Assalamu Alaykum

Can anybody recommend a sound madrasa in osogbo for me. I just got to osogbo and dont wamt to waste time being idle over here.
جزاكم الله خير

There are good madrasah in oshogbo you can attend. The fact cannot be disputed that face to face class can never be compared to online class. Have you heard of Al Edewiyy? Pm me and I will link you up in sha Allah...

yahmohy27:
Lobatan,what else again ,i think that is best conclusion for this Debate brothers and Sisters ,you don't read Quran the way you read txt books,but read intensively,go for research and learn from one who is a good practicing muslims mallam what is not cleared to you not by blindly argumentation .Asallamualykum

wa alaykumus salaam... I just tire for all these internet Muslims

It seems aliexpress has improved ib their shipment, my goods was shipped on the 13th of June and got to Nigeria on 24th of june. Quite fast!

Who is Dr. Ahmad Shaafat please?
The punishment for apostasy can't be left for ahadith but the explanation of solah, zakah, inheritance etc can left for ahadith?

The problem is actually from the OP where he asked for people's view on an Islamic matter,It should have been "What's the Islamic view and the scholarly explanation". This is why people are just writing what they think is right in order to look "lenient"... Anybody that wants to comment here should please quote any scholar holding same position. JazakalAllaahu khayraa....

Empiree:
^^^^^^

@busar, is the opinion of Shaykh Salih al munajid of islamqa ijma of the Ummah?. I believe it is the Sheikh that took the hadith literally and in isolation.


"Let there be no compulsion in religion;..... 2:256


What this Verse 2:256 does not protect is a Muslim or so called Muslim who neglects all tenets of Islam and cite this ayah as his/her evidence. In that case it does not apply because Quran says enter islam wholeheartedly.


"O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy." 2:208


But borne of contention is someone who freely leaves Islam and minds his business afterwards to be killed?. I hope you know know implications of this. I am sorry I dont see wisdom Sheikh's method.

Could you please quote/name any scholar holding the same position as yours? Or that interpreted it as yours?

Empiree:
^^^^^^^


This is rather problematic @busar. I hope you read and comprehended what is written. I think that's where brother lexiconkabir stands as well. That's why i said earlier the hadith is taken in isolation. From your post up there, it is clear they believe killing apostate solely for rejecting faith is the rule of Law. This is clear contradiction with Quran


"Let There Be No Compulsion In Religion"


This is excerpt from your post up there.






This is not even ijma as I understand it. The condition of executing apostate is what i hinted and tbaba even explained better here https://www.nairaland.com/tbaba1234/posts Both explanations contradict what you posted. I stand to be corrected if I am missing something.

@Mr. Maclatunji, I am really having hard time digesting your post

The said post is not mine but the explanation given by Shaykh Salih al munajid in islamqa.com and this is right stand. The Sunnah can't contradict the Qur'an but strengthens one another. Just as i have said earlier that verses of the Qur'an are just not taken literally but with the tafsir... Read the the explanation of the ayaah..

As a non Muslim, I find myself Intrigued and attracted to your faith. However, I find it difficult to comprehend how a man can be sentenced to death for speaking( Salman Rushdie). I would have thought that we as humans do not have that right to make those decisions, only god can?
Published Date: 2010-02-01
Praise be to Allaah.
We thank you for your confidence in us and for sending this question to us, and we appreciate your being intrigued by our beliefs and your eagerness to find out the answer. We welcome you as a visitor and reader and learner.
What stood out from your letter is that you are impressed with the religion of Islam. This is a good sign for us and for you. We are happy for our religion to reach people like you who are seeking for the truth. Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us that this religion would reach all places on this earth. It was narrated that Tameem al-Daari said: “I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘This matter (i.e., Islam) will certainly reach everywhere that night and day reach, and Allaah will not leave any house or tent [i.e., all dwellings, in towns and in the desert], but Allaah will cause this religion to enter it, and some people will be honoured because of it [by converting] and others will be humiliated because of it [for refusing to embrace it], and they will be ruled by the Muslims, an honour which Allaah will bestow on Islam and a humiliation which He will inflict on kufr (disbelief).”
(Narrated by Ahmad, 16344; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 3).
In your case, your admiration for Islam will motivate you to find out what this pure monotheistic religion teaches, and how it is in accordance with sound human nature and common sense. We advise you to avoid completely and preconceptions that may influence you and take your time in reading about the teachings of the Islamic religion. Perhaps you could read material on this site about Islam, such as questions no. 219, 21613, 20756, 10590.
With regard to your question, “However, I find it difficult to comprehend how a man can be sentenced to death for speaking. I would have thought that we as humans do not have that right to make those decisions, only god can” – what you say is correct, because no-one has the right to condemn another person to death without evidence from the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
The ruling of execution because of a word that somebody utters is what the Muslim scholars call al-riddah (apostasy). What is apostasy and what constitutes apostasy? What is the ruling on the apostate (al-murtadd)?
1 – Riddah (apostasy) refers to when a Muslim becomes a disbeliever by saying a clear statement to that effect, or by uttering words which imply that (i.e., which imply kufr or disbelief), or he does something that implies that (i.e., an action which implies kufr or disbelief).
2 – What constitutes apostasy
The matters which constitute apostasy are divided into four categories:
(a) Apostasy in beliefs, such as associating others with Allaah, denying Him, or denying an attribute which is proven to be one of His attributes, or by affirming that Allaah has a son. Whoever believes that is an apostate and a disbeliever.
(b) Apostasy in words, such as insulting Allaah or the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
(c) Apostasy in actions, such as throwing the Qur’an into a filthy place, because doing that shows disrespect towards the words of Allaah, so it is a sign that one does not believe. Other such actions include prostrating to an idol or to the sun or moon.
(d) Apostasy by omission, such as not doing any of the rituals of Islam, or turning away from following it altogether.
3 – What is the ruling on the apostate?
If a Muslim apostatizes and meets the conditions of apostasy – i.e., he is of sound mind, an adult and does that of his own free will – then his blood may be shed with impunity. He is to be executed by the Muslim ruler or by his deputy – such as the qaadi or judge, and he is not to not be washed (after death, in preparation for burial), the funeral prayer is not to be offered for him and he is not to be buried with the Muslims.
The evidence that the apostate is to be executed is the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Whoever changes his religion, execute him.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2794). What is meant by religion here is Islam (i.e., whoever changes from Islam to another religion).
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god except Allaah and that I am His Messenger, except in one of three cases: a soul for a soul (i.e., in the case of murder); a married man who commits adultery; and one who leaves his religion and splits form the jamaa’ah (main group of Muslims).” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6878; Muslim, 1676)
See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah , 22/180.
Thus it will be clear to you that execution of the apostate is something that is commanded by Allaah, when he commanded us to obey the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority”
[al-Nisa’ 4:59]
And the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has commanded us to execute the apostate as in the hadeeth quoted above: “Whoever changes his religion, execute him.”
It may need some time for you to be convinced about this matter, and for you to think about it. Perhaps you think that if a person follows the truth and enters into it and embraces the one true religion which Allaah has enjoined, then we allow him to leave it quite easily whenever he wants and to utter the words of kufr (disbelief) that put him outside of Islam, so he can reject Allaah, His Messenger, His Books and His religion, and there is no punishment as deterrent, how will that affect him and others who enter the religion?
Do you not see that this would make the one true religion, that everyone should follow, like a shop or store which a person can enter when he wants and leave when he wants, and it may encourage others to forsake the truth.
Moreover, this is not someone who has never known the truth and practiced it and worshipped in accordance with it; rather this is a person who has known the truth, and practiced the religion and done the rituals of worship, so the punishment is no greater than he deserves. Moreover, such strong rulings as this are only applied to such a person whose life is no longer considered to be useful, because he knew the truth and followed the religion, then he left it and forsook it. What soul can be more evil than the soul of such a person?
In conclusion, the answer is that Allaah is the One Who revealed this religion and enjoined it. He is the One Who ruled that the one who enters it and then leaves it is to be executed. This ruling does not come from the Muslims’ ideas or suggestions. As this is the case, then we must follow the ruling of Allaah so long as we are content to accept Him as our Lord and God.
May Allaah help us and you to do that which He loves and which pleases Him. We thank you once again.
Peace be upon those who follow true guidance.
https://islamqa.info/en/20327

And to the Questioner, you don't ask What are people's views on an Islamic matters but what's the Islamic view, with this you would get the proper answer.. May Allah make our leg firm in the deen and grant us the understanding..

It's a pity that Muslims understand not their religion, they pick what suit them and leave what seems "unreasonable" to them. We are very quick to quote verses of the Qur'an without proper understanding of this verse. The prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said "I was given the Qur'an and something similar to it(the ahadith)" The ahadith is used to explain the Qur'an. You can't separate the ahadith from the Qur'an.. Bro lexiconkabir is very right as per the question. That's the ruling for the one who apostate.. And for those who sighted the Qur'an as an evidence, have you read the Tafsir of the aayat you quoted??
Islaam is not practised with common sense and emotions but with evidences and the understanding of the pious predecessors.... As salaamu alaykum

It's a pity that Muslims understand not their religion, they pick what suit them and leave what seems "unreasonable" to them. We are very quick to quote verses of the Qur'an without proper understanding of this verse. The prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said "I was given the Qur'an and something similar to it(the ahadith)" The ahadith is used to explain the Qur'an. You can't separate the ahadith from the Qur'an.. Bro lexiconkabir is very right as per the question. That's the the for the one who apostate.. And for those who sighted the Qur'an as an evidence, have you read the Tafsir of the aayat you quoted??
Islaam is not practised with common sense and emotions but with evidences and the understanding of the pious predecessors.... As salaamu alaykum

These are not among things that vitiate ones fast. But you are engaging in two sins; taking haram pictures and looking at unclad bodies(other than your wife) which will reduce the rewards of your fast.. Wallohu a'alam.... Please do away from these things both in Romodhon and outside... May Allah assist us all and guide us aright..

HarkymTheOracle:
U shudnt b dependin on yr parents after marriage na...

says who? Though most people don't like depending on their parents... But they can still be depend on pending the time one is Able to.... There is no sense in struggling for nothing when help is within your reach(since the parents are capable)

HarkymTheOracle:
It is wrong... hw can i be married and still be dependin on my parent for my basic needs?..

It's wrong on what basis?

Zeinymira:
From what i understand, a man that wants to get married must have a room he can call his own not someone that is squatting, he must have something he can feed the bride with...........

what if his is given a room and not financially buoyant.?
Note: Islam is not practised with 'I think', it's with evidence.. May Allah assist us all

Alhamdu lillah that no one really have time counter this madness anymore... People have started dedicating their time for beneficial things rather than stopping a dog from bringing out its tongue...

HarkymTheOracle:
i personally love early marriages.but u shudnt put your point in this manner.. infact,people should be discouraged to get married early based on what u said.. so u tink bein married and goin to skool is good,or bein married and stil dependin on ur parent is cool.. i think NOT.
From my own POV,people should be encouraged to get married early only IF they are financially and mentally capable to do so..

and what's wrong in being married and your parents still give you money when they could afford.... Or is there anything wrong in being married and your parents still fund you till you are able to cater for yourself?

Zahrabinnta:
In this present economic situation its advisable to finish school and get a job before getting married.There's no need to rush in.

how many people have finished school and finally gotten a good job?

Zeinymira:
In Islam marriage is compulsory for a man who: has d means to pay dowry, can support wife/children, is healthy and fears that if he does not marry he may be tempted ro commit fornication

And it is compulsory for women who: has no means of maintaining herself, fears that her sexual urge may push her into fornication

and it is forbidden for a man who has no means to maintain his wife and children and has a serious illness that can affect his wife and offspring

demmy66 its about time u get married o


And i support early marriage because its prevent fornication
buh when people hear early marriage they thought it is all about marrying a seven year old kid whereas every society has their own norms
Quran did not speculate the minimum age of marriage so those in doubts and living in misconception should check Quran4:6

do you have evidence for the fact that marriage is forbidden for he who can't really cater for the needs of his wife completely?

MKO4ever:
Min baadi Ilmin Wa tuqwo, Imrahatun Solihatun
Min baadi Ilmin Wa tuqwo, Imrahatun Solihatun
Meaning
Education first then marriage

Thank you

Could you please define the education you meant?

They should continue wearing their church garments as if they have one sef, confused set of people. They should also wear it to market places, garages, etc... Una go soon tire because it's never part of your dressing, hypocrite! And once again, thanks to CAN for making the hijab a thing that even the unserious Muslims will start wearing all the time.. Keep helping us spread our religion

tunshe:
E pain you?

I have the right to express my joy and you also have the right to express your sadness and worry.

This is my own way of celebrating him and I do not see how my mention of Islam should create an entropy in your life.

lol @ entropy

I tried paying on aliexpress today but I was unable... It keep showing "invalid 3d secure transaction-contact your merchant". What does it mean please?

Ope oooo! Good news for this Monday morning

Owliver:
if in the future they have terrorism issue they'll wonder why. when economy is tight someone is building a school to brain wash kids about an Arabian god style knowledge.

fvcktard

Sniper is still available in the market

What's the current first bank rate please?

I'm interested too.. Mp coll, we deal with native and English wears.. Ismail_busar@yahoo.com thanks in advance sir! I would love scissors like logo

This method is very risky because it can damage your battery... I used it about 7 years ago(with a K600 battery) but the battery got exploded because I forgot to check it on time.... But it charges very fast, no doubt. But Be careful!

Is there no update p5w yet i.e marshmallow