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ojdollars: @Nigerians.... It's funny how some people can just comment on this post and start crucifying this Nigerian Easterner. I mean, not just a Nigerian... But A Nigerian Medical Doctor in the US... This story is far from Gold digging... This Black Americans in America seems to think that they are very smart, especially when they assume they are pretty. A Medical Doctor, giving you is all, that guy is over $100,000usd = #15 Million Naira richer annually. He could have just pay for sex from every and any corner in America, sex na like hand shake for this place. No cultural value, a nation where women with another man's pregnancy goes out there to lay with another man with it. If you ask me, the Gold digger here is this woman... For Christ sake, this guy already got his command, his swag before he met this Akata trouble trouble lady. He has been dating her years before that marriage certificate was issued. Why didn't she give a green light for Marriage if she is not among one of those ladies whose duty is to reap where they have not sown? An Igbo man showering you with gifts, taking care of you, paying bills for you. In fact he met you in the American system and took you out, made a positive impact in you and you dare have the guts to come to a Nigerian forum to castigate yet another one Nigerian again.

For all those who don't know what we are worth, I will tell you today. There are no men like Nigerian men anywhere in the world.... Especially in the States... If you don't live in America, you won't understand the attitude, the psychology of this women here. She only came to tell you this sweet talk everyone here to drew sympathy to herself. You know He is married now, leave him alone. Na our Son, we nor dey reject our children, come rain, come sun. Doctors are hot cake in America, you ungrateful lazy ass Akata. Mtscheewww.



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GBAM! nwanne biko, tell them

duni04: Its really amazing how rotten Nigerians have become. Can't believe pple are standing up in support of someone that has lied about his age, or forged a birth certificate, someone that went behind his gf's back and got married. God knows what else he's done behind her back. That kind of person is capable of great evil. What d OP should do is very obvious, she's just dulling herself by asking again. M very sure if she digs deeper she'll even find more dirt. To protect urself from all d oda mess ur yet to uncover, run while u can.

what do you mean great evil?he only married in nigeria and did not tell his girl friend,and the birth certificate thing is also evil in your own opinion? people kill their wives or girl friends, rob them or even rape them and what do you call this people and oh.. you have never told a lie in your whole entire life..eh?..you innocent saint,you do not have any idea what is like to live in foreign land

duni04: Its really amazing how rotten Nigerians have become. Can't believe pple are standing up in support of someone that has lied about his age, or forged a birth certificate, someone that went behind his gf's back and got married. God knows what else he's done behind her back. That kind of person is capable of great evil. What d OP should do is very obvious, she's just dulling herself by asking again. M very sure if she digs deeper she'll even find more dirt. To protect urself from all d oda mess ur yet to uncover, run while u can.

what do you mean great evil?he only married in nigeria and did not tell his girl friend,and the birth certificate thing is also evil in your own opinion? people kill their wives or girl friends, rob them or even rape them and what do you call this people and oh.. you have never told a lie in your whole entire life..eh?..you innocent saint

KenGali: @ OP. Do not mind some of the posters here, cause due to economic situation in Nigeria, many of us only have an economic value for relationships.

I just want u to understand what has happened so you can decide the way forward.
The man you spoke of was not gold digging since he did not marry you to get immigration papers, so we are talking of someone who was geniunely interested in you.
If the marriage certificate you saw is from a church, and not a court, it is geniune, He is married to a Nigerian woman.
The birth certificate may not be geniune, Nigerians often lie about their age to get jobs and avoid retirement. Nigerian men will not lie about their age in a relationships cause its not a barrier. only Nigerian women often lie about their age when they are older than the man. So, I think the age he told you, is likely his true age. I so hate people lying about their age though.

You need, to look at your relationship with him before the seven years, Did you give him the impression you were not willing to marry him?
11 years is very long for dating. But the stuff is that the man has been likely under a lot of family pressure to get married as soon as he hits his 30s and can Feed himself. It's worse if his sister lives close to him, cause they monitor and chaperone him like a baby. Nigerian mothers, sisters and aunties seem to have this foreboding of their son marrying foreign or white women. The son gets constantly warned that they will be lonely when they age and go back to Nigeria, cause the wife and children will refuse to come with them. Also, the fact that you already have a child makes him marrying you a very difficult idea for his family, culturally we are very uptight about broken homes or children out of wedlock. An Igbo woman having a child out of wedlock, makes her chances of marriage one in a thousand.

So true, the man you love, for seven years was under pressure from family, considering the probability of going back to Nigeria without you and future children, and had difficulty to justify marrying a single mother to his family. That's why he succumbed to marry a woman from home, whom he hardly knows, but who will satisfy his family and be there when ever he decides go back home. Apart from that I see that he tried to brave it, by trying to get a baby with you, which would have made him a father out of wedlock, making it easier for him to marry you. What I doubt by the long years, and your willingness to remain aloof with each other ( you and him being limited in each others house) is that you ever showed that you wanted marriage, since you wanted no baby.

Now, he is still enjoying the relationship, hoping you never find out. As long as you do not leave, that new wife will never come to the US, that's why he has opted to travel to Nigeria annually, and try to get children with her there. So it's left for you to decide what you want, you can leave, but you can also have him for as long as you want without a marriage between you. Also note that Igbos are not very polygamous, so unlike some people suggest, nothing you do will make him put a ring around your finger if he already has a wife he does not wish to let go.

My advice to anybody who wants to genuinely marry an Igbo man is, get involved with his family first ( culturally marriage for us is between families and not just individuals, so do not presume you can control him more than his family, our mothers and sisters play a very important role in who and how we marry), Before this you must consider if you are willing to live in Nigeria with this man when ever he moves back or visits. An Igbo man will either move back home on retiring, or maintain a good contact by visiting often. Like the Jews we never forget homeland. Having a contact with his family will tell you the truth.

this is the truth, the truth and nothing but the truth, very articulately put

lastpage: I like this your "contribution". It is obvious you know this guy like the back of your hand!
Now, you have raised a lot of issues that l will attend to, in "short bursts" because l dont want to dwell too much on them.

1.) You attacked his personality:
a.) as "unserious": As an artist, he practiced his specialization, to the benefit of the church for 14yrs and you still thin he is unserious?

b.) unmarried at 42: So, being married is now a yardstick for success? Dont let me start mentioning names.

c.) dropped out of school: from Steve Job (APPLE FOUNDER) to Bill Gates (Microsoft founder), all drop-outs! Dropping out of school is not a curse, it is "what and why" you dropped out that matters.

d.) Ungrateful: From reneging on promises made to him, to outright deceit in using his brothers name as the Tenant for the rented apartment, Okotie duped this man for 14years! What is there to be grateful for? Pls tell us.

e.) Quarrelsome (with brother & wife, Pastor, e.t.c): So because his Brother Abel is not throwing money around on his or because they "disagree" on issues, that makes him quarrelsome? Do you get it at all?
Think; Gifted people are usually "eccentric" and dont always "flow with the crowd". Albert Einstein is an example, Fela Anikulapo Kuti is another and thousands more!

f.) His mates have surpassed him: How will his mates not surpass him when people like Okotie are taking advantage of him and trying to use his talent for free. Let his 39Million be paid to him and let us see whether he will not surpass those mates!

g.) Stupid; (for working for 14 years without pay!): Well, he is stewpid but Okotie deserves to go to jail for this inhuman treatment. Let him try this in Western countries where they appreciate "human effort and services", if he would not end in jail. Even people who took "house-girls" abroad and used them like they do in Nigeria, without paying them, end up in jail. Do a little research on this.

h.) His Facebook page is childish": Everyone has the right to populate their FaceBook page as they deem fit. What is childish to you might even be "artistic" to others so quit being judgmental unnecessarily.

i.) He should "apologize" to his tormentor, like Atiku!: This finally shows the kind of person and the type of "beggarly" mentality you have. You must be a desperate person by nature otherwise you would know that it is demeaning to be cheated and to be expected to "prostrate" to get what rightly belongs to you. And you egoistic Pastors too would feel "fulfilled" that they are Lording it over another "small person", right? That was how Jesus was behaving while on earth, right?


Okay, l've heard it said that "Religion is the opium (plant from which cocaine hard drug is sourced!) of the people, give them 'religion' and they would be as senseless and stewpid as someone on hard drugs"!

From the account given even by church members, it is clear that this man was "in service" of the church and there was no "written agreement on terms of service".

Dont invoke God in this matter, its purely between two people, with one using his position to chance the other!
He did not work for God because God did not have any "discussion" with him, it was Okotie that engaged him. Period.

*Okotie was a "musician" like this man, and he got royalties from his records. WHY NOT THIS MAN?

*Okotie was/is a "church worker" like this man.. and he reaps his own rewards here on earth, from the church, judging by his flamboyant lifestyle. WHY NOT THIS MAN?

Okotie lives lavish on the church, using his "selling skills', WHY NOT THIS MAN?

Until we enact a law which puts this pimps and con-men cum Pastors in jail for first-degree fraud (and gullible followers like you to, for failing to use your God-given brain to reason)...until then, this con-men will think they far too smart than they really are.

America, Europe, Asia and the far East are not as religious as Nigeria(ns), yet look at the quality of lifestyle that their govt give their people, look at the life they live....

If our "Religion and the way we practice it" is truly acceptable to God, we would have been far more blessed than these people/countries but like God said in his Bible, "What is the sound of all these bleating of Goats and Cows, that l hear"?
He is not interested in the in the "money we contribute' in church, that is siphoned-off by the con-men and pimps on the pulpit!
God is interested ONLY in our HEART AND SOULS!
That is where these other prosperous nations have beaten us pants-down, despite all our Noise and singing and Tithe!
You cannot be doing evil...and expect the grace of God to abound.
Even those that dont believe in God, do more Good that we that sleep and wake in church, we that foolishly believe we can BRIBE GOD with our money or think that "Hold God to ransom or blackmail him with Tithes".

Let Okotie pay this man for his WORK to his church/ business empire.
Like the Bible says, "Do not suffer a workman, his wages"! Or which Bible does Okotie and these "pimping pastors" preach from?


Lastapge!

very nicely put, you do not sound like some body who live in nigeria, have you considered taking up this mans case as his lawyer

fankasibe: PASTOR: deep ur hands into ur pocket and remove any money in it then u say after me 'Lord Jesus i dedicate this to u coz i knw U wil provide me double of it dis week, thank u sweet Jesus.
@OP as simple as that.

come o are you a pastor? if you are not i think you should consider opening your church you have the qualities, this is how easy it is to con vunerable, poor gullible nigerians,fake pastors making easy and untaxed money

trae_z: So I like to end my arguments "No wonder India exports cars while Nigeria exports religion". But on the real:

"Why Do We Have So Many Churches In Nigeria"

With 10 churches on every street in Naija and just 1 in the US/UK you'd think we would sleep with our doors wide open instead of building high walls and fixing iron gates. Abi are we too far off from heaven than the US/UK that we have to ho
ld loud noisy lengthy prayer sessions so heaven can hear our cries? More still as a religious people we should be content and love our own yet queue day and night at the American and UK Embassies; jumping with joy when our Visas are approved. Abeg i no go school make una help me answer.

i agree 10,000&

because there is so much poor gullible people that they beleive that pastors and churches are the answer to their problems,and some clever and greedy ones are using religion to take advantage of the poor and gullible to enrich them selves, think.. with all this religion,churches,prayers and fasting,pastors and worshipers why are things not better in nigeria

skyfall: LMFAO

The guy wan spoil business. Church share price for drop that day.

anyway chris okotie is a BIG CROOK, he should pay the man, regardless of what any one thinks of the man

toluene12: plastibell is one of the methods used in circumcision and is the commonest method in our modern hospitals. The plastibell ring is tied around the rim of the skin attached to the glans while the remaining part of the foreskin is trimmed off. Its prefarable because the cup like ring (plastibell) protects the glans during the procedure and reduces the use of scissors on the glans.
its not wise to leave the foreskin behind, it carries the risk of being a focus of infection to the boy and what falls off few days later( with the help of the ring) is the remaining skin attached to the glans.
Now as per the pain- since thats the bone of contention- the skin being worked on is still part of the body, thus ring circumcision is a painful procedure. However most patient are given a nerve block or topical anaesthetic agent so they only feel the pain of touch or some mild post op irritability or fever for like 24hrs, otherwise they are okay.

do you know were i can find this method here in london?

so how do i go about getting this method "plastic bell" i am not sure were or how to, since i we live in london can i find this method here in london? anyone knows?

lastpage: One of my sons also used this method to get circumcised.
The plastic ring actually "strangulates" the foreskin and deprives it of 'blood and nutrients'.... it the end, it dies and falls-off like scab.

Seems safe and hygienic to me..... l think it should be promoted and awareness created on such method.

The "Knife and Cutlass" method seems scary and brutal!

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so how do i go about getting this method "plastic bell" i am not sure were or how to, since i we live in london can i find this method here in london? anyone knows?

centje: you know women get scared easily...maybe he could convince her.

yes she is scared every time i bring up the conversation about circumcision we end up arguing

centje: every endeavour in this life is a risk. Even life itself is a risk. Your wife had to pass to near death to give birth to the same baby,they are all risky. Please don'k 'chicken out' 'cause of this singular incident. If you read the previous posts you undertand that its possible this kid has an illness possibly a bleeding disorder. The precaution you should undertake is to be sure your kid doesnt have such before going for the circumcision. So please go ahead with what you believe in.

lol.. nothing to do with "chikening out" though he did have a blood transfusion,and something the doctors called antibodis though he doesn`t have anymore of this things but all this is playing on my mind, and his mother is still recovering from the c section, so all this is getting in the way..

Goldieluks: Alright then.

thanks i ve been worried sick over this,

SniperInADiaper: My suggestion: leave the choice up to your son!

this is exactly what his mother said

phyl123: Hi @ bushman there is no need to worry as long as you do not cut corners, get it done by the Jewish who are experts in this field, you can either take your son to them or they can pay you a home visit for a premium. They are licensed and they have been doing this for centuries. Since you live in London the closest to you will be in Finsbury park or Golders green and the environs. Certain things happen in life, doesnt mean we should completely give up our beliefs, it just makes us more aware and to take precautions. GOOD LUCK

honestly i dont intend to cut corners i will pay whatever money it takes, but after this sad story i am not comfortable doing it anymore plus his mother is treathning to take him away from me if i persist on doing it,i know its our beleive but its the beleive worth the risk?

code_0: Leave that poor boy alone pls. Aboki where dey carry am like that no be human being? Them no dey put woman belle?

after reading this sad story i think i might have to live him alone, but i dont know is it going to be a problem for him when he grows up?

Goldieluks: If you live in London, i have contacts of some very good Jewish and Islamic doctors who are professionals.
Let me know if you are interested, will give you their contact. If you should wait for him to get older,
it is going to be more painful and stressful for him, so the earlier you may want to do it, the better for him.
cheers.

i do live in london and like i said a friend recomended me to one jewish man, but i am a bit aprehensive after reading this sad story, his mother said no! not to do it being that she is a white english woman she even treathend to contact the authorities if i persist ,plus i ve already spoken to the jewish doctor to which he adviced that there is no age limit,

now i am petrified my son is 7 weeks old and i ve been making arrangements to circumcise him even though his mother (white woman)refused
now this story got me thinking twice, over here in london its not available on the NHS how come it is in manchester, please people i am really worried about this as this is my first (mixed race)should if i dont circumcise him is a problem? is it necessarry? do i have to? is it really available on the NHS? sugestions please thanks

thread for people with SCHISROPHENIA,MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER and PARANOIA, you people needs to go see your doctors

ferhyntorlah: Hello, please type in English, thanks.

yea tell him, he thinks he is texting his mate

i have a cockney accent and igbo accent

i ve said enough time that we should just sell nigeria to the chinese or the indians, and we all share the money and every one dissapear to were ever they want,

drink a lot of beer and meat everyday beleive me in two months time you will have a beer belly and become very fat

i didn,t know there is no money back or return policy in nigeria aswell,i bought a pair of trainers during my last visit to naija in one of the shopping malls and when i went back to get my money back because it was too tight the way the shop asistants looked at me like i am from another planet, they told me point blank no money back or exchange even though its only been two hours ago i bought the trainers,

jehovahnoni: thank God u even knw dere were truths...even though u foolishly called dem half,let me tel u...if u tink illuminati broke off from catholic...ure on d long thing,,,knwin some few tins abt illuminati doesnt mean ure done,,,dere ar sumtins dat u cant knw until u join dem...even afta joining dem,dey av stages where u'll reach b4 knwin sum certain tins,frm ur posts..i c u knw notin atall about dis damn pple,,if u wish to knw dem..u have to trace back d story of creation,,nd thread it down from then till d present now,,den u will knw most of deir modus operandi,,,,deyre cunny nd deluding just like satan,well..deyre his physical agents,,,.....nd one more thing....I AM NOT SPEWING FABLES ,,,DICKBRAIN .,,,go read d history of ancient europe...wen magic is a practice in d western europe(england and co),,and wen barbarism and gladiation is also a practice in d eastern europe(rome and co),,,den wen d christian crusader defeated d roman empire...creating a dawn of d holy roman empire,dat is wen all dat practice was abolished,,nd dey reach out to d western europe...nd dem too condemned d practice of magic,thus,d two parts bcome united nd reach out to other worlds,,dat is wen how began colonizing other parts of d world...starting from america,meanwhile,b4 ,wen and afta all dat took place...dere are darkenesses present in dem,cloaking demselfs as lights...waitin for d right time to strike out,,nd it has been done from den . Dere ar secret societies present den...nd deyre also among christian crusaders..so u c wat i mean,,in every good...dere is evil . D movie MERLIN,it was carved out from d legend of king Arthur,dats y d name Arthur was in d characters.......let me ask u,,,did u knw d true legend of Arthur ?....if u do,,,den u'll get d full insight of all wat am saying all dis while .

try writing in clean and clear spelling and english perharps i will understand you, i am struggling Reading your text massage

long time ago i went to peckam market to buy macarell fish on my way home in the bus i was trying to chat a very pretty girl up sitting next to me in the bus,after few minute the girl said to me she can smell something that smells like fish even though i was trying to hide the fish in my plstic bag it turns out the fish fell out of the plastic bag and on the floor of the bus,and when she saw it she screams and jumps, she ask me if was mine i said no because i was embarrasing,anyway that was how i lost my fish and went hungry the whole of that night,did i get the girls number? what do you think?

years ago on my last job interview before i went in for the interview i thought perharps i should smoke some weed i have in my pocket to give me some courage before i go in the managers office for the interview, while i was smoking out side another man standing outside asked to share the weed with me after he left ten minutes before me back into the office i stayed behind for a while to ease the smell of the weed on my suit, when i finally went in for the interview it turns out that the man who shared my weed with me was the MANAGER who was going to interview me..did i get the job? well what do you think?

that is if kidnappers dont visit her, i hope

nigeria a cursed nation

frankly i would rather have a female driver drive me than a male driver,here in england female drivers are known to be the most carefull drivers,perharps this is what nigerian roads need instead of drunk careless male drivers

drink heineken