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openmine:
You still haven't answered his question....give explicit scriptures where it is written that tithe is an eternal principle that was applied before and after the law....


...If U say Abraham tithed before the law because it was a "eternal principle",we can as well claim that burnt offering or burning of incense or circumcision was also a spiritual or eternal principle since it was done before the law....

Lol.

Leave the charlatan to keep deceiving himself.
We can also add circumcision too as "eternal principle" since it existed befire the law or is circumcision now mandatory to be saved?

Even if we give him and his mickey mouse mascot teenager till eternity they will never prove what that "eternal principle is".

petra1:
The kingdom of God runs on principles . And these principles transcend dispensations . They are revelations of God. either revealed in the law or before the law. Tithes, offerings , prayers ,alms, honoring parents , worship, etc are practice based on spiritual laws.

So you can say you believe in one and demonize the other . Non tithers usually claim thy only give offering and not tithes because tithe is under the law . When we Made them know that both are mentioned in the law. They came against offerings also . What about ,other spiritual principles such as prayer ,fasting ,alsms for the poor, honoring your parents etc. if you do all these which were also mentioned in the law . Why don't you tithe as well . So my point is that the fact that something is mentioned in the law. Doesn't mean it's not applicable , some of Gods principle are revealed in the the law . But these principles existed before the law.




For example the law says Don't worship idol ,honor your father etc. will you worship idol because the law says don't? Will you dishonor your parents ?

If everything contained in the law is not applicable just because the law mentioned them why would Paul be quoting the law to the gentile church like Ephesians

Ephesians 6:2
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise

I'm tired of people like you who claim to be pastors weaving and worming your way out of knots you tie your "sheeple" in.

I never said I'm a pastor When did I tell you that?

Please answer the question. This is not the fake healing sagal. Our eyes can see clearly.

Explain

Baa baa black sheep. Have you any wool.
Regurgitated dust.
Keep this your yarns. Trust you to overstate your importance with needless jargon

I'm not sure you know what a principle means.

principle
ˈ/prɪnsɪp(ə)l/
noun
1.
a fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behaviour or for a chain of reasoning.
"the basic principles of justice"

By the definition above you are yet to tell us what the "eternal principle" is.
You have yet to tell us how Abraham arrived at/discovered the said principle.
Because certainly a one-off occurrence (never mind what that wet behind the ears toddler Gombs says) is not enough to validate it as an "eternal principle".

Furthermore you keep doing yourself and other folk who pay attention to you a huge disservice by insisting tithing predated the law by virtue of Abraham. Because that occurrence with Melchizedek DOES NOT tally with injunctions given by God himself as regards tithing. You know this but you refuse to admit it.
You also forgot to mention what Abraham did with the 90%. You conveniently skip that part because it does not suit your argument. Because the items Abrahan "tithed" upon didnt belong to him originally or had blood on them. Things that would never be allowed to be offered to God in the first place by definition in the Law.
So how then can you brazenly say that tithing was before the Law when your reference doesn't match a laid down criteria?

A zebra always had black and white stripes even before it was named a zebra. If it had spots before you called it a zebra and assumed the stripes afterwards then you would struggle to convince people that it was a zebra prior to the change in its characteristics. But I know this analogy is going to fly over your head because you sant it to. Calling Abrahams sacrifice to Melchizedek a tithe is a lie to the essence of what it was defined to be.


Ogbeni joe agbaje I know it's you hiding under the petra1 moniker. Your style of writing is exactly the same. Hence I refer to the HIV healing scandal.

I'm not even going to debate the rest because they are utterly irrelevant.

PietroRico:
Signs oviedo, Gibson and fúcking lescott, while selling van aanholt...
..


That's in addition to love, McNair and djibolodji in the summer



King Moyesey

If Sunderland no relegate this season make I know why

You get time to dey monitor that guy.

Then RuuDie will explain to us how he should still be united manager and how Sunderland will make top 6.

The guy is just dire. How he still manages to snap up top jobs makes me wonder how nepotism for jand dey rival our own for naija.

tutorago:
Fortunately, i found the reasons in this post: https://www.nairaland.com/3601268/why-wike-withdrew-licences-16

It seems the governor has his reasons. Everyone should click the link above to know more.

God bless Nigeria.

What silly reason?
That they didn't attend the meeting?
Is that reason enough?
Are you for real?
So if you miss a departmental meeting does your boss fire you?

mastermaestro:
I would never have replied if I had known I was conversing with a savage.

Hahaha

This nonentity has nothing to say.

Abeg go Bleep yourself.

If you have any modicum of sense you will get your nostrils off Wike fat smelly ass and your lips off his balls.
What he did is wrong.
Excessively wrong.
Please tell us why he reversed it if he knew it was right in the first place.

You are the savage who decides that withdrawing a school licence for missing a meeting is right, just like your governor with the heart of wickedness is a savage. If it is buhari that is anywhere named close to anything similar stark illiterates like you will go hopping mad.

You need to refund the money spent on your education to your parents and they themselves should slap each other for sleeping with themselves for conceiving you in your mother's anùs

mastermaestro:
It was a warning shot which he has reversed. What stopped them from sending a qualified representative to the meeting since they got the notice?.

What stopped the punishment from being a little less draconian, like say, a fine?

If you fail to attend a meeting and your boss sacks you, would you say that your boss did well to sack you?

Face it bro, that punishment was too harsh. I am not defending their absence from the meeting, but it just shows you the kind of heartless person Nyesom Wike is.

mastermaestro:
Nigerians won't attend meetings with sufficient notice period. Even when they attend, they will come late. This is why this country is yet to arrive the place of development. Unserious bunch of bookish literates and gullible illiterates.

Rah rah rah.

You are just ranting.

The punishment was unnecessarily excessive. It only goes to show how wicked the governor is. Which is the reason why the country is where it is: leaders abusing their power arbitrarily.

This Wike Apologist, please shut it. Amaechi did not close any school at the drop of a hat.

sammyp01:
He called for a meeting and they did not attend

mastermaestro:
You are being very simplistic and pedestrian. Dude, privately owned secondary schools in any state get their licenses from the state ministry of education. That is an executive controlled ministry with the governor as its ultimate boss. I expect you to request for a copy of the letter of invitation. Then read through to ascertain its content, that is, if the meeting was termed mandatory in which case there would be attendant consequences for refusal to send a qualified representative.

The measure Wike has taken is simply to remind them that he is no joker. He wants them to know that Rivers state has a government, and that government receives or forcefully extracts its deserved honour.

These unfortunate ones will say they are educated.

I don't blame them.

It is only a country like Nigeria that will have Wike as governor of any state.

Yet these ones will be quick to call some people who don't agree with them zombies.

It's a shame that people are barefacedly supporting an act that is draconian and undemocratic.
But if there is a move by the government at the centre to sanitize something, these same ones will shout to the highest of heavens about executive rascality.

petra1,

The matter is simple. No need for verbal gymnastics and somersaults .

Answer the question.

How is tithing an "eternal principle"?

Also back up with simple and concise scripture to prove your points.

No weak jibes or short cuts.

I'm tired of people like you who claim to be pastors weaving and worming your way out of knots you tie your "sheeple" in.

Please answer the question. This is not the fake healing sagal. Our eyes can see clearly.

Delta State that gets the highest federal allocation is taking bailout funds.
And we wonder why the country is where it is.

openmine:
I tot i was rubbing minds with some one i dont know...i didnt know it was U...the tithe pastor
Well am still waiting for an answer ohhh....whether u be petra1 or not...

Is it the fellow who told a HIV positive person they didn't receive their healing because he didn't tithe? The one involved in that healing scandal?

Nna eh, I can't and won't talk again. These so-called men of God will receive their reward.

Nihilist:
What is wrong with Starboard this morning?

smh.

Did I mention your name, or did I quote you, before your reply? If your conditional cataract hasn't affected your brain, why would you have to respond?

Nihilist:
Screaming like an owl on cannabis?

An Owl.

On Cannabis.

My friend wake up from your slumber and go and clean your dane gun or something.

As usual, dribbling away from the real issue.

Yes I will clean my dane gun according to you.

But you sir are a barefaced hypocrite. That is the real issue.

Deal with that.

And the temporary cataract that has affected your eyesight.

PS: No MNF report from you this week?

This over bloated f0ol doesn't even know that Sunday is not the sabbath day.
I swear social media is the worst curse to strike humanity.

The resident INEC official won't come and scream PDP..

He has temporary glaucoma now after Hull were denied a clear penalty.
But if it is united he will come and start showing his sanitary pads from his last period. Screaming like an owl on cannabis and drawing line like a technical drawing student in ss1.

And his temporary blindness won't let him watch Monday night football to be parroting updates because United is not involved.

As for the refereeing these days it's simply shocking. Just expect the unexpected.

ephi123:

As usual this dolt doesn't have anything to say.

I'm sorry I wasted my time responding to you. That's 30 minutes of my life I cannot get back.

ephi123:
So it is solely Christians who do all you listed above?

And what does what you listed above have to do with herdsmen killing innocent citizens? We are talking A, you are saying Z. Mschew

If you lack common sense and intuition then you don't always have to respond.

Simple.

If you don't understand, then don't be myopic. Rather unfreeze your brain and learn to think.

Pastor Suleiman has not talked about true love that will deter fellow Christians from taking advantage of one another. Instead he is pretending to be a defender of the faith with a glorified hate speech that negates everything Christianity stand for.

I don't bloody care about what other people do. But Christians are called to be different from others. If you are killing anybody you think is a fulani herdsman just because your pastor says so, then how are you any different from the Islamic terrorists you are criticizing? H

But hunger has finished what is left of your half bred brain. So I don't expect you to understand.

Until we learn to live with and love ourselves and treat ourselves with true love from God, the Muslims will keep killing us off. Again if you cannot grasp that it is not my fault that you cannot decipher simple logic here.

We have a Christian faith that is utterly divided among its rank and file along so many lines and one charlatan of a pastor is whipping up sentiments instead of trying to deal with the real issue affecting Christians in Nigeria. Sadly gullible people like you don't see he is missing the point.

If you like twist your mouth when mtshewing. Twist it till it falls out of your face you hear?

Moganajoe:
For how long should we continue to preach peace when the those at helm of affairs are not interested in our so called peace.....I think when they hear revenge, the terro and their sponsors will sit up

To be honest this religious defending is sickening as it is hypocritical.
Christians malign, defraud, dupe, cheat themselves sleep with other people's wives, and generally destroy themselves while shouting self defence.

They don't know how to defend themselves from themselves.

Sigh.

If this comment accredited to suleiman is true then I have nothing to say.let hI'm be the first to slit the herdsmen throats.

It's easy to talk and give orders from the pulpit.

NOETHNICITY:
I'm disappointed at u.
Really!
So any fulani herdsman u see on the road deserves to die?
So what the diff betwn us and the raging terrorist who doesn't distinguish between the enemy and the innocent.

And then they and their pastors will tell us about God being love and love's characteristics.

obxddon:
In as much as I dont condone violence...But the killing of Christians is way too far much and nutin is happening to these fulani men who just disaapear into thin Air......Abeg,I support the man....

No need for ambivalent response.
You don't support killing but you support the call to killing.
Choose one side of your mouth to speak from keyboard to type from na.

Funlordjnr:



Depay the mofo is gone! What a waste of money, time and jet fuel!


Abeg make griezmann come collect that number 7 jersey sharply!

No truer words have been used to describe the guy.

AmeboGist:
If you know the legacy staff of Heritage Bank, then you would know that ALL of them were sacked - These were the people that started the Bank before the Bank opened its doors to the general public. Compensation like i said, [b]30working days [/b]never finish na? Why is it that people only like a policy when it favours them?

The letter of dismissal did not say 30 working days for compensation.
Get that fact right before you come jaunting here with your oblique analysis.

AmeboGist:
Liquidity issue? Are the customers getting their monies Yes/No? http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/12/05/heritage-bank-safe-sound-profitable-says-sekibo/ Please read that article and you will be enlightened.

guy shut the hell up.

I have several accounts with the bank, and I know how hard it is doing transactions as when due because I cannot access the funds. I always get one explanation or the other as to why my transaction cannot be completed on a regular basis. Hence I know there is trouble behind the scenes because I am not dull as to not know what is going on behind the scenes.

And if you were Sekibo, would you admit that your bank was having issues, even if it was obvious to the public that you were so as to upset depositor's confidence?
Or do you think the public is as gullible as the online fo0ls you tend to deceive with your hocus-pocus?

And when I call you PRO, you start hyperventilating unnecessarily.

AmeboGist:
[s]So because the Bank decided to restructure the salary of Staff and give more incentive to HARD WORKING staff, you are now vexing? Oga if you worked hard, met your deliverables and possibly exceeded it you would have been paid your UNTAXED incentive, After all when you received your total package was it not better that your previous package? so please miss me with that BS. If you didn't like it, you could walked outta the door, collected your compensation and run your own business, where you can be dashing undeserving staff monies they don't deserve.[/s]

Hahahaha.
The biggest foolery I've read.

I know staff who were sacked. So count me out of your unnecessary verbiage.
Those sacked staff were very efficient within the lines that the useless bank provided and gave me adequate information as at when due.

In that light the above is null and void and undeserving of a response.

AmeboGist:
So please Oga, the minute you realize that any Bank and not only Heritage Bank is a business that has to provide returns to the stakeholders who put money together to setup the business and NOT A CHARITY ORGANIZATION, thats when you will be enlightened.

So my evil minded, Bitter speaking, ex-employee undeserving employee of Heritage Bank, get off your entitled horse and strive to do better....

you are so full of sh1t.
It is your father and mother that is bitter and underserving of ever being alive.

I am not an ex-employee of that walking corpse of a bank. Tufiakwa

If that is your best retort, then I should never have bantered with you because you are so narrow minded.

Even if it is a business, as far as it is a publicly quoted company they are NOT immune to scrutiny of their activities and processes. As a customer of the Bank, I have every right to voice my opinions about a bank whose performance has been absolutely nothing to write home about and as such it is hardly surprising that there is so much heat generated by this recent actions.

Hman92:
You re very primitive do you know that.....you don't have a drop of sense nor education in you if not you won't spill trash like this......Nigeria is part of ECOWAS no be so And pledge to keep peace within the region so as other west African nations......but this kind of information is far from a sentimental fvck like you

very APT description.

AntiWailer:
When you are done.

tell us why Ghana sent 200 + troops and other African countries too.

dumb conspiracy theory for dumb brains.

Sir,
With due respect, I think you wasted your time answering that nematode.

When Jonathan sent troops to Mali did he get approval from the Senate?

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/news/government/112403-what-the-nigerian-constitution-says-about-deploying-troops-to-foreign-countries.html


any body calling for President Buhari's impeachment on this matter is a never-do-well destined for failure.

sarrki:
Go and check

American have never invited any African leaders to their

Presidential inauguration.

As a governor he should be equipped with facts and figures

The collective IQ/reasoning capacity of some of the people you are attempting to correct isn't up to the equivalent of 1.

It's very clear that diplomatic consuls of countries are supposed to represent their heads of state, according to the invite.
But in-built reprobates and dullards will not agree to that fact.

You get time sha.

Henry240:
Exactly!!


This is all I've been saying all along. The claims by Jammeh should not be taken lightly. They should be investigated, then a re-run held.

20,000 eligible Gambians were dis-enfranchised from voting in the election. Do these people not have the right for their voices to be heard?

I mean it's like we don't have a history of foreign interventions in African elections. Let us not be blind to history.

Libya presents us with a recent example of the disastrous nature of poorly thought out interventionist policies.

Cry me a river.

Jammeh should step down. Simple

He lost an election because people are definitely tired of him after over 2 decades. He congratulated and conceded victory to Barrow.

He now remembers there were "irregularities", as if his stay in power had not been perpetuated by irregularities in previous elections after 4 terms, or the brutal dictatorial style he has adopted and absorbed.

Now someone who once suspended the country's constitution when he seized power form Dawda Jawara in a military coup is using the same process he once undermined as his alibi to cling to power. And people like you for whatever reason don't seem to see the irony in him clinging to power and making this hullaballoo about blood shed by invoking a totally different situation in Libya.


If any blood shed occurs, it's on him.

Libya can't be compared to this. And you know it.

Leyqute:
Age has a role in it bro. He is still young and can develop. He hasn't reached the peak of his career. There are players who start playing exceptionally well in their mid-twenties.

About his record. He was the highest goal in the Eredivisie, like Suarez and Ronado did, and he helped PSV to the title after several years of league bareness. In 2015 he was voted "Best Young Player" in the world by France Football.

So with the above you still are waiting for memphis to "develop" and you are still classifying him as "potential"?

So Rooney Ronaldo Giggs who were making first 11 at old Trafford at the same age that Memphis is were what?Wizards?
So Michael Owen who was European footballer if the year at 21 was still being given time to "develop"?

Ogbeni fashi dis yarns. Memphis at 22 cannot be given any excuses. Me I no gree. He flopped at United. End of.

Leyqute:
If after selling to Lyon he starts performing you'll hear peeps saying "eyah, Utd shouldn't have sold him."

How does this make sense in line with your argument?
You are clamouring for his price to be high but you are wondering if we will regret selling him.

Isn't that a bit of an irony given that this same player has hardly dome anything over the last 18 months?

Leyqute:
Look atew.

And be wasting money anyhow abi? And what evidence do you have that his replacement will be better?

Brah the joke is on Lyon for buying this dud.

Wasting money is nit for you to decide as a casual fan.Last time I checked we all don't have a say on transfers for the club we support. As far as players will help win trophies I don't care what they cost and neither should you because it's not your duty.

As per replacement not living up I admit you are right but right now if Jesse Lingard is making match day squads with his aimless style of play while Memphis (after several years in Holland at top level and a world cup appearance) cannot make the bench after nearly 2 seasons then I rest my case.

[quote author=ArabMopol post=52919929][/quote]You are an id10t of unmitigated proportions.
You are a shallow waste of space.
You should refund the money spent on your education and your parents should sue the doctor who assisted in giving birth to you. Since your patents are brother and sister it's no wonder you are this slow.

AmeboGist:
I wish I was PRO for Heritage Bank oooo, my pocket go dey sweet now!! Anyways take this as a lesson so when you run your own organization you can do better!!

So if you aren't then why are you peddling these bogus lies?
And the issue here is nit about me or how I run my business.
Heritage bank dismissed a lot of staff unjustly simply because they were not legacy staff of theirs.
They claim the dismissed staff were compensated but you know it's a lie.
You come here telling us the category of people dismissed (another untruth) and how they had disciplinary cases (a further lie).

So why won't I call you PRO given your tendency to defend the company despite the unjust nature of these dismissals?

You have not responded to the issues I have raised about the actual compensation or the fact that heritage bank has a liquidity issue that is limiting customer withdrawals to a certain percentage if their balance.

You did not address the issue of how the bank reduced salaries of the dismissed staff in the name of performance induced pay.

You decided to turn the argument around and make it about me.

I see I have been wasting my time debating with a liar and a fraud who like the institution he represents is everything that is wrong with this entity called Nigeria.

You would do well to avoid quoting me because you have absolutely nothing to say and I value my time.

ArabMopol:
AFONJAS THE WIFE BEATERS TUFIAKWA

When did Tonye become a Yoruba name?

flat headed fo0l.

Then you will want to offer an opinion on serious issues.

Funlordjnr:



Listen my "soccer son".....take a look at this 2 Pictures depicting our respective clubs achievements! If not for ogbeche 77's benevolence regarding you blue mongs....do you actually believe you have any right to even dream of trolling "funlord or the mighty man united on this thread or even in your real life EVER?"



Honestly be thankful that the Internet has allowed you access to discuss soccer matters with fans of our calibre! In a perfect world you would actually only deserve to be my errand boy when I need you to buy me cigarettes and recharge cards!



MAN U >>> Chelshit! (all day, everyday)...do the math if you still possess the ability to count my boy!

Bro, ignore this fella who has absolutely nothing to say.

Leyqute:
How old is Memphis Depay? How old is Martial?

Although, his head at the moment seems to be in the hands of one Dutch witch-doctor, he's done something in the past to warrant being referred to as having potential.

If he visits MFM or SSCOAN and get released from that bondage you think he'd be this bad?

Age has nothing to do with it brah.

Memphis is 22. At 22 Cristiano Ronaldo playing at the same United was United's top scorer and on his way to being named PFA Player of the year and Young player of the year.
At 22 Wayne Rooney was a permanent fixture in United's lineup despite being the most expensive teenager at that time.
At 22 Ryan Giggs was already a stalwart and an icon for United. Same as David Beckham.

What has Memphis achieved at 22? Or are we still going to tag him with the "potential" title?

Martial has less experience than Memphis but has managed to keep his place in the squad despite being younger than the Memphis you are making a case for.
Martial has won games for United and put in memorable performances for us despite him not being anywhere close to the form he showed in his debut season.

The reason we are having this debate is because he has been nothing short of terrible. He has not offered anything close to the hopes we had for him, scoring in non-descript competitions and against sub-zero competition.

He should be dashed for free or used as part of a player swap. plus cash. He does not deserve the benefit of a transfer fee, no matter how little.

AmeboGist:
Majority of the affected staff especially those from the Acquired Enterprise Bank staff had at most 1year till retirement and 98% had trained their kids through school with most of them working in good organizations, and only a few junior staff were affected and these staff had existing disciplinary cases against them.

Oga PRO for Heritage Bank,
Please chill with the lies.

This section quoted is a bare faced lie. The only part that is true is the part about the affected staff being Enterprise Bank staff. And that was the sole purpose of the lay of: to cleanse the remnants of Enterprise Bank.

You say only a few Junior staff were affected and those with existing disciplinary cases were the ones affected.
That is a lie as numerous junior staff were sacked for their previous attachment to Enterprise bank and NOTHING more. Senior management staff of the bank involved in scandals were left alone. Go and ask anybody.

So stop coming here to spew lies.

Staff who have been with the bank in various capacities and different names for over ten years first had their salaries reduced all in the name of paying performance based salaries, then asked to go with paltry sums of N600,000 which they promised to pay in 30 days, which is still pending.
Please don't argue about the so-called working days, because you know that is a lie as well. Just as much as the lie you've been telling your customers whose monies you have trapped and can't pay out because you have a liquidity problem and are seeking new investors to bail you out.

Tell the lies to yourselves and leave the discerning public to judge for themselves.