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@COMPAQ,
u have done a very great analysis here but i must add that your analysis is one sided. yes, u shld ahead and tell us the oil production level of india, china and america and then relate it to their oil production. if i may ask, how is our population affecting our oil revenues? do u as a citizen of nigeria benefiting in any manner from govt? if yes name those areas through which u benefit. if our population is a problem, then why can't we divide the country and kill the problem.
china makes looting a capital offence and today, every company in the world is trying to link up with china because of the cheap labour but here we have a govt that will jail u for 2 months for stealing billions.
all i am saying is, as long as this corruption continues in nigeria, even if they privatise the air we breath, nigeria will go no where. we have a govt that is not doing anything for the masses. nigerians loosing billions on security alone because govt has refused to act.
why all these noise abt privatisation when they can privatise everything the same time. let them at the same time privatise police, army and navy.

pardon me, but i fail to see your point in all these. i get that we should demand accountability from our Govt. and double our efforts to stamp out or at the very least minimize corruption, but i still don't see why we should throw the baby out with the bath water. Yes, govt. is corrupt, Yes govt. ought to provide electricity, but when they have failed to do so over 40years, handling things inefficiently , and everything going from bad to worse, should we in the name of fighting corruption continue to suffer in darkness?, it doesn't make sense, if privatising electricity will make it available, then what is wrong with that, instead of sticking with the present inefficient system that only breed more corruption. i say we demand govt live up to its responsibility, whilst continuing in the right path---privatization.

Mcwhyte

the master codes you posted in your attachment, how does one make use of them, also, the etv code you posted, how do you apply it?

thanks

beneli, thanks a million for this insightful reply. I'll follow your advise and do my research first. i didn't really think about doing research before going in for the program.

thanks again.

this section has got to be one of the most informative in the entire forum. beneli, i think you should get most of the credit for keeping this section of the forum alive and active.

i have question, i know this is a medical doctors forum, but i have a question.

I'm a dentist, been practicing for awhile now, I'm thinking of getting an mph via long distance educ. online from the university of Liverpool. now i know from this forum that opportunities exist for mph holders in NGOs, WHO etc, but discussions here would seem to suggest that an mph suits medical doctors rather than dentists. is this true?,

also I've gone though the curriculum and contacted the enrollment adviser who assured me that there's literary no difference between the on campus and online course, i must admit though, I'm a bit skeptical, do we know of anyone who has gotten an mph online and does the online nature of the program "depreciates" the degree so to speak.

thirdly are there any scholarships for mph programs that one can access?

sleak:
"doctors should treat patients without worrying about who pays",doctors are callous ,they are this n that n what not, shakes head in disgust.
loads of you guys av got no clue as to what you r talking about.patients come to the hospital with one form of emergency or the other.they plead with you that they've got no money on dem that u should please treat them evoking all the prayer points known.the minute they r stable d tone changes.they either refuse to pay,run away or start debating your pricing with you.
when i was a junior doctor in one of the teaching hospital,myself and a lot of my colleagues dat i know of bore some medical bills we incured while on call because we acted first to treat patients who came in as emergencies with claims of no money on them.
experiencies change people.
i would say this again nothing will please a doctor more than to carry out his skill to the fullest without worrying about who pays the bill.
for completeness,the government should state clearly who covers the bill in such situations.

Asleak, you're right. i remember an incidence that happened in 2006 in a private hospital in egbeda. an emergency c-section had to be done for a patient. To save the woman's life my then boss the owner of the hospital, being a woman opted to carry out the c-section, this was done with the understanding that the payment will be made. after the delivery and with the patient recovering, no money was forthcoming. on the 7th day, the husband came with relatives asking for the patient to be discharged so they could go do the naming ceremony. of course my boss refused and he (the husband) decided to raise hell by bringing in some other people, he forcefully discharged his wife.
you would think the story ended there, the next week, he had the temerity to bring the wife for a checkup, when my boss refused, he left but came back with area boys who threatened to vandalize the hospital, at this point we called the police who promptly rounded them up. money still not paid. sometimes people just aren't grateful.

for such hospitals, experiences such as these makes them demand payment first.

dappssee:
What does he mean by who will bear the cost? Every doctor is mandated by the ethics of the profession to administer first aid to any patient before referral to a more 'appropriate' health facility. This means that if an okada rider has an accident in front of a St Nicholas Hospital, he would and should be treated there and when stable, be transferred to the General Hospital or any other facility he can afford.

So many innocent people have died from gunshot injuries and I think priority should be on saving the life

@dappssee, you've not answered the question. you're quite right about what you've said above, however you fail to answer the question of who picks the bills. the doctor like it or not operates a business, and like someone mentioned pays staff, taxes, maintains equipment and more importantly uses materials. all these cost money, if he keeps treating for free as you're implying, there won't be a hospital tomorrow. so back to the question, who pays the bills?

I'm a maxillofacial surgeon working in a mission hospital. in addition to running a clinic, i also do surgeries when needed. coz the hospital can't afford more people, we're only 2 people working in my unit. the work is tedious to say the least. last week i had to see a patient who was involved in an accident. she's a 40year old divorced woman with 3 kids. she's also HIV positive. the accident left her with fractured jaws and face among other injuries and she needed surgery to correct the problem. we had to do an open reduction using stainless steel wires. if you've worked with wires you'll realize how dangerous it is to handle them, they're sharp and can easily cut your gloves and fingers. the procedure is also a very bloody and long one. the patient was brought to my unit, and we had no choice but to be "humanitarian" and attend to her. when i told my "team" that the patient was HIV positive, no one was willing to touch her. it took a lot of talk to convince them to let us see her.

during the procedure, in spite of all the precautions we took, including wearing 3 thick latex gloves, 2 face masks each etc. my assistant sustained a cut, and no one knew coz we were so focused on what we were doing, it wasn't until the next day that i got to know, so we took all the precautionary methods, doing an emergency  RVS screening, (which is negative for now), and commencing the usual drugs.

I've had a hard time assuring my colleague that everything will be alright. i asked myself if i should have let the patient go, perhaps i should have watched out for my team and let the woman go coz if i had then perhaps this won't have happened. i didn't get cut coz I'm an expert, its something that can happen to anybody.

the funniest thing is we do this almost daily. and its not just HIV, that we have to worry about, there are other diseases one can contract like hepatitis B. we don't get paid a hazard allowance yet we face hazards daily.

from reading the comments of some people, its obvious they think docs are zombies, and that's sad.

i want you to know that some docs put their lives on the line almost everyday, the least you can do to show you appreciate what they're doing is to ensure they're well compensated, not just only in pay alone but in the work environment too.

from the comments I've seen on this thread, I'm getting to know that our(doctors) efforts as a group is not being appreciated, it makes you wonder if we should be watching out for ourselves, after all, if anything happens to us, we're on our own.

"The CBN governor said that the new polymer notes will not carry any naira sign, but will have the amount written in the three major languages in the country, Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba; adding that it will also have a reflexive coat of arms"

http://www.tribune.com.ng/19092009/news/news4.html


i don't think there's going to be any arabic inscriptions on the new notes going by what sanusu said from the above link.

Going by the comments some of us have posted, its apparent that some of us think doctors are zombies or didn't you read that the decision to

not treat patients not on the bed is as a result of a COMPLAINT lodged by ANOTHER PATIENT who was treated in a wheelchair. the doctor

was obviously trying to save the patient's life but what does he get in return, a month suspension without pay. i mean put yourself in that doc's

shoes, the next time you see such a case would you stick your neck out considering the consequences? come to think of it, is it normal to treat

patients on the floor or in a wheelchair ALL THE TIME? The comments of a few of us, seems to infer that it is.


Its rather unfortunate that health care has decayed to that point, instead of blaming doctors (a part of the equation), blame the govt who if

they'll invest in health care adequately, then we wouldn't see this problem occurring. doctors are a part of the equation. they're in the system.

We (via the NMA) have been asking for and are still asking for increased funding in health care, a better work environment, improved pay,

functional equipment but govt doesn't listen and people DON'T TALK. when doctors take the painful option of going on strike to press home

these demands, people start complaining. we accuse docs of several things, forgetting that govt is playing an active/major role in the sorry state

of things. the patient that was treated on a wheelchair is a Nigerian who didn't like being treated on a wheelchair, the doc, in this case gets

punished for saving his life, that patient will probably accuse doctors when they go on strike to protest the conditions he experienced.


Gani died of lung cancer. a condition that wasn't diagnosed on time coz our hospitals are not well equipped. while here he was misdiagnosed

instead and i don't blame those docs one bit. if they don't have the tools to work with, they can't function effectively. they're not babalawos or

ifa priests. they've no way of telling you spot on what's wrong by merely looking at someone.


Face it people, blame govt, what you're seeing is the result of a complete neglect of the health care system. that's why Nigeria has one of

the worst health care systems in the world as stated by various international bodies and to me they're being kind when they tell us that, coz in

my opinion,  we don't even have a health care SYSTEM. other countries don't joke with theirs, which is why our govt. officials keep jetting out

at the slightest excuse.

the government is just a liability. they don't provide anything, life is harsh just coz of their ineffiency, you have to provide virtually everything and to think they want us to pay tax and now this,

a-town, while you definitely have a point, the fact is what you're talking about happens ONLY under ideal circumstances, not in the Nigeria of today or even 20years time(judging from the obvious lack of focus the govt. has).

right now, that policy is too premature. there's a lot that has to be in place before they should start talking about such an increase.

as debosky said earlier, the govt. just isn't doing anything, its like they're a liability of some sort. 180k in the Nigeria of today?

haba!!!, abeg o. i can't even imagine it.

@waterworks,

i think the whole idea behind these scammers is about volume, take the 1k fee issue for instance, and multiply that by several people gullible enough to pay it, you'll agree with me, that it adds up rather, especially when marketing techniques are added to the mix.

as for the document issue, don't even go there, what with "oluwole" around the corner, there's nothing they can't do. case in point, passports with the owners'names on it gets stolen to be used elsewhere by God knows whom.

@epiphany, @olufunmibe

well said. you hit the nail on the head!

ogunyemy:
i think d girl is a piece of antiquity whose hope has been chattered upon the rock of disappointment

Hmm!!!

You're damn right, it IS an idiot!

beline,
tried contacting you through your email but it bounced back.
i decided to contact you hoping you can give me more info on forex
seeing you've been at it for a long time now.
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i learnt about a method trading the news,ie using fundamental
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i want a means of trading the fx and make something decent without
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so pls tell me, how do you trade the fx, can you share your means of
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will be grateful if you can swap ideas. my no is 08058606551 or can i
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Guys, i don't want to seem like a pessimist but i heard yardua has chronic renal failure and from time to time goes for a dialysis which is needed to keep him alive ( who knows if that's what he went for anyway). he's in need of a transplant.
now how do you expect someone like that to rule a country like nigeria?

hello nairalanders,
i joined not too long ago. before i joined, i had been a guest viewing various topics on this business section and one of the reasons why i decided to register was because of the depth with which topics are discussed.

Guys i really need your help. i'm looking for something i can do, a business, that can be done part time, without disrupting my busy schedule. i'm a dentist and i work in a teaching hospital. i have N100,000 to put into such a business. the business must be something that i can run with my busy job and make a decent income(while i'm not asking for millions overnight, if it can it i wouldn't mind, it would be an added bonus ).
Any ideas please?