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logicboy01: Thank you! Well said

you are like a leaf that is blown about in the wind Logicboy. you have been in here screaming your lungs about how the Lord is evil because of what he did to Job. then someone tells you the story of Job is not real. and then the next minute you are on that ship. atheism is real confusion i tell ya.

Pastor AIO: But they are not common to other religions.

Although TABOOS, the avoidance of certain foods and actions are common to almost all religions.

ahhh my bad. you wanted common things to all religions.

logicboy01: You fail to see that it was you who failed to give him a coherent reason to stay a christian

coherent reason ? what are ya smoking that angel dust again ? i couldnt be more coherent. the guy is in the grip of seducing spirits. they got their claws in deep.

staying away from pork
staying away from your woman during her period
not having intercourse with your woman until 7 days after her intercourse
staying away from scavengers like shrimps snails lobster
not shaving your beard

THOSE ARE MOSAIC LAWS

Ishilove: Lwkmd!!! How morbid...
Rotfl!

yeah and that was only my good side. wait till you see my bad side JK

musKeeto: Teachings based on race, similar to the what Christianity says about the Jews...

the bible is about nations ( or what we call races today ). would you call the lord racist for these statements ?

romans 9 vs 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated

deuteronomy 7 vs 6 For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.

matthew 25 vs 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

racist statements maybe ?

uhonmora: buzugee, you are a very comical fella. There are many christians who would call your teachings heresy...

comical ? LOL. hey if they consider my teachings heresy i would beg them to show me what is heresy about it and i can pull up scriptures to back me up. everything i say, i back with the scriptures. not my own vain opinion. scripture says prove all things. scripture says the word is of no private interpretation. all scripture is God breathe. i run a tight ship with these here scriptures.

Jenwitemi: So, it is better not to learn anything while we are here? Is that what you are trying to say? I think the bible need to put forward a clarification on that quote or else it is the bible that is foolish. After all, we did not come to this world with the said bible, either.

while you are on earth for an average of 90 years you need activities to keep you busy for 90 years or you will be bored. earthly education is one of those activities. they are time fillers. they make you feel like your 90 years had a purpose. in actuality, it was all a waste of time. time filler. however it is necessary for structure in life. but its all vanity.

logicboy01: lol...so you and buzugee have given up on your evangelism

its obvious the guy is not serious plus he has a flippant attitude for someone who truly is in a quagmire.

cyrexx: ^^^^
LOL
so you are now a canniballistic athiest hater
nairaland atheists should run away from you for their own health's sakes

musKeeto: Even Xtians run away from him....

I WAS JOKING GUYS of course i wouldnt do such a dastardly act

musKeeto: '
Same as you if you're serving the wrong God.. you do not even want to be identified as Christian

if it makes people comfortable to put labels on me, who am i to stop them right ? I am just a man in this gentile world trying to keep the laws statutes and commandments to the best of my abilities. thats all i am brethren musKeeto. I am just a squirrel tryna get a nut. A black man trying to stay afloat in esaus world. thats all i is mayne

can two walk together unless they be agreed ? ( amos 3 vs 3 ). whoever is in love with the world is against me. as such it will be a righteous thing for the lord for me to take all the atheists on nairaland and pour kerosene on them and set them alight. thats how much the atheists are my favorite. i will douse them in kerosene and make atheist-suya

musKeeto: I leave you to your foolishness then.

musKeeto your azz finna get melted and bbqed like suya if you dont quit running around like you done lost what left of your dayum mind. running around here talkin bout he atheist and shytt you gone be one hot spicy bbqed atheist suya when the lord get through with you. 'well done musKeeto suya' lol

musKeeto: If God has preordained, why complain then? Just let the foolishness flow...

i would let the foolishness flow but there is a high price for this foolishness. A VERY HIGH PRICE. i mean if you are man enough to sit comfortably in 100000 degrees heat for one hour ( which is the time you will be in the fire before the lord lets you melt away into the grave ) then i guess you should chill in your foolishness. i am reaching out to the ones who are redeemable. the ones who are not yet set in their ways in this foolishness called atheism

musKeeto: Which would you blame for Africa's backwardness?
RELIGION or ATHEISM?

africas backwardness has nothing to do with religion or atheism. the black mans ( israel ) heaven is the white mans ( esau ) hell and the white mans heaven is the black mans hell. this is how the lord has designed it. he uses the foolish to confound the wise. at this point in time, we are the foolish. before the white man conquered the whole world, he was the foolish ( he lived in caves and never had a bath and lived a very degraded life. you guys think you have it bad in africa today ? if only you knew how bad the white man had it when he was the foolish ). its an alternate arrangement of FOOLISH and WISE between jacob and esau that will play out till the lords kingdom is finally established on earth. see if you read the bible well you would know this

one of the modus operandi of the lord 1 CORINTHIANS 1 VS 27 God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful.

all you african atheists are GLORY WHORES. you are GLORY SEEKERS. you are like parasites. you only want to attach to the winners. you are the types who go seeking for something better and are never ever content so long as there is something better out there. the white man is in his kingdom and you see all his riches and you see his ways and you want to attach to his ways because you perceive him as a winner. you are spiritual pr-ostitutes. i dont doubt that in your personal lives too you are always seeking for that richer boyfriend or richer girlfriend. you want to be winners so bad so you attach to winners ( including their ideals and philosophies ). you are not long suffering. its all about instant gratification. THAT IS THE AFRICAN ATHEIST in a nutshell

Jenwitemi: Whatever you have learned is yours, of course. Those things you've learned are all part of your experience on earth. I think the OP is talking more about material things that we all run after like money, cars, blings, etc. They are all transient.

YOU ARE RIGHT, i was talking about material things. but this can also apply to worldly knowledge. scripture says For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God.

These vatos and putas wear this shyttt like a badge of honor. its rather comical. here you have a man who uses your book of laws statutes and commandments ( the bible ) to form a religion and then he uses this religion to rob r-ape and plunder you ( JEREMIAH 2 VS 14 ) and keep you in subjection. then when he has conquered the whole world with it and feels it has served its purpose, he discards it and goes back to being the godless ( HEBREWS 12 VS 16 ) person that he is. and then all these african fools hop on his nuts and jump on his new doctrine of 'godlessness' . these people are like sheeple and they dont even know how pathetic and comical this whole thing is. scripture even tells you the white man is godless but these african fools want to be godless because they want to be sooooo like the white man and they see atheism as been 'hip and white'

HEBREWS 12 VS 16[b] that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau,[/b] ( AM SURE YALL KNOW BY NOW ESAU IS THE WHITE MAN )

THIS MAN DONE CONQUERED THE WHOLE WORLD AND IS VERY RICH AND DOES NOT SEE ANY USE FOR GOD ANYMORE ( NOT LIKE HE HAD ANY USE FOR GOD INITIALLY. RELIGION WAS JUST A MEANS TO AN END FOR HIM ) -JOB 21 VS 13-15 They spend their years in prosperity and go down to the grave in peace. Yet they say to God, ‘Leave us alone! We have no desire to know your ways. Who is the Almighty, that we should serve him? What would we gain by praying to him?’


THESE AFRICAN FOOLS LOVE WHITEY SO MUCH THEY WANT TO FOLLOW HIM INTO THE GRAVE 'jonathan GOODLUCK WITH THAT'


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_esau_the_so_called_white_man

KJV
STREET PREACHERS ( OR WHAT THE LORD REFERS TO AS THE HIGHWAYS AND BYWAYS )
APOCRYPHA

okeyxyz: I'm surprised by the sorts of illogical answers posted here. How can you say "We own nothing, We are just borrowing.." I've been going to school since i was 6 years old, been through primary, secondary, university, now i have a masters degree, only to come on here to be told "i don't own my qualifications". Really?? Did somebody "dash" me these qualifications & certificates? did i not earn them by spending money, studying through pain, fear & tears & sleepless nights, eventually gaining the qualifications as witnesses to my achievements?? Well, if not me, then who owns them? let them step forward & prove that it was them & not me who registered & took the tests & exams, etc.

This is surely mal-practice of philosophy.

yeah well lets see you take your qualifications with you to the grave

Lujan: I view donating 'apliko' money to d furtherance of d gospel things of God (offerings & tithes) as a terrible sin; though I may help someone with it. What's your view?

why not give it to a beggar ? giving it to a church is like adding fuel to fire. if you give it to a beggar, maybe, just maybe the lord will have mercy on you.

ijawkid: Oboy these days contentment is a doctrine that has become out dated in many christian denominations......

Today its prosperity and get everything syndrome....

1 timothy 6:6-10 are verses that are scarcely read in churches today...

But contentment is 1 thing that if we practice,thus can lead to eternal life.........

As for me I intend living a content life......

Its never my aim to be wealthy...I'm never determined to be rich because its gonna be waste when I die....

AMEN. thats all i can say to this post. maybe i will send a copy to oledepo

dorox: buzugee, the overall thrust of my argument aligns with what you said so i don't see how i could have missed the main point

my main man dorox, we are saying the same thing. you are right. he deserves restorative penance. he will get it from God. not from man. especially not in nigeria. but you know if you take this position that you have taken you will scare many people from coming to make testimony in church. like one minute you are making testimony and the next minute you are been thrown into the back of a van by mopol not good church bidness my brethren

that fool gbadexy dont need a superior argument. what he needs is an exorcism

Guitarlife: This make's sense so why didn't you state it like this earlier huh? Lol.
God bless you jare.

Bruh, i was assuming you have lived in Nigeria before and are familiar with the system. every man is his own govt in nigeria. you pump your own water and generate your own light and fix your own roads. every man is his own govt. complete autonomy you can kill and no one will bother you so long as you dont do it openly in which case you will get lynched by the public. jungle justice. home of the brave land of the insane

ijawkid: We own nothing in this temporary system of things....

We came naked,and naked we go back......

We brought nothing into d world,neither are we gonna take anything back to d grave....

you are right. which beggars the question. why does 'contentment' seem to elude mankind ? they want more and more of what they will never actually own. its crazy. so many lives have been broken by discontentment. trying to keep up with the joneses syndrome.

1 timothy 6 vs 6 Yet true godliness with contentment is itself great wealth.

Guitarlife: Seem's like you have a point you so desperately seek to pass across but in doing this you have ultimately forgotten that the creator of this thread also need's an answer.
I agree with you on the part that this world stinks and so does it's justice system.
My argument however, is that our lord Jesus christ never undermined it like you are making it out to be.
It was both corrupt and bereft too when Jesus subjected himself to it.
I'm sorry I can't search it out for you but you sure know about bible passages like giving to ceaser what is his and also those like power can only come from Gos.
Without mincing word's You as a person cannot park your car in the middle of a major highway can you?
Despite the fact that all earth is the lord and the fullness thereof.
The reason you can't do that is beacause a sheriff or a governor who is most likely a sinner has mandated you not to.
So, why do you heed this sinner's why don't you just go against them and park you car in the middle of the highway.
Atleast the bible does not say we shouldn't.
Man, you yourself are neckdeep in obeying this heathen's and your actions are not at all misplaced.
The bible commands us to submit to the ruler's in authority.
I have said so many incoherent thing's but I trust you to get my drift.

i get your drift but you are drifting the wrong way. lol. you should respect the laws. of course. i never said you should not. you should subject yourself under the authority and governorship of the ruling people where you live. this is biblical. i am not asking you to go out and break and flout laws. i am not asking you to go and park in illegal parking spots. this case here is a case of a different nature. i am assuming this person does not live in the west because in the west they are vested in continuing slavery through their jail system. they have you make all kinds of products for like 50 cents a day and then sell it off at 1000 dollars a day. ok so the jail business is huge business in america. they are not interested in rehabilitating you. they are only interested in exploiting you. so under this system they will make sure you are caught and they will give you like 400 years in jail. so in a system like this, you can never escape the law. you dont have to surrender yourself. they will come find you. however if this case is in africa, nobody cares. the jails are full. they dont have the money to feed you in jail. they are not going to bother investigating you let alone jailing you. millions of people die in africa everyday and life goes on. in africa, in a weird kind of way, we practice biblical justice. we let the lord put his punishment on you when he is ready ( and trust me he will ). so my point is that you are viwing this situation from a western point of view ( jailing everything that moves so you can make a profit ). in africa, it does not work that way. you dont go to jail to get rehabilitated or punished. as such it is pointless. let the man wait for his justice from God. he has already done a brave thing. he admitted to her father. and then he turned his life around. even the darlings of the lord MOSES, KING DAVID AND PAUL were murderers. so my point is STOP PLAYING JUDGE JURY AND EXECUTIONER. STOP TRYING TO DO THE LORDS WORK FOR HIM. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. MANS STEPS ARE DIRECTED BY THE LORD. surely soon enough he willl direct his steps to where he will recieve his punishment ( PROVERBS 20 VS 24 )

NB- i am assuming this case happened in nigeria. not in the west. my answer is based on if this happened in nigeria which i think it did because in the west he would have been arrested immediately. see in the west they run a feudal system so your whole life belongs to the state. as such even if you sneeze you have to report yourself to the state. in africa we dont have this system so we are not subject to the state. you report yourself to the state at your own discretion. if you dont report yourself to the state you are not breaking any laws.

Guitarlife: hey man, stop this parambulation. I've seen you around here long enough and I sure know just how spiritualy enlightened you are.
I might as well take your refusal to do a deductive analysis on this subject as a sign of acceptance that you initially made an error of judgement.
Now seriously, That passage only encourage's us to as good christian's understand that we are a shinning example to the world at large knowing this we strive to not only present ourselve's as brother's but also send a message of unity amidst the brethren.
Therefore, it does not in anyway encourage us to conceal out flaws or to flagrantly abuse the law.
What I'm I even saying even our lord Jesus Christ like a sheep led to the altar was condemned under this our corrupt justice system.
Even when Peter had an error of judgement like you are doing now and sought to adjucate as a brethren by carrying out an act tantamount to subjucating the justice system,
Jesus rebuked him and even performed a miracle at that point to drive home gis point by gumming back the soldiers ear.
With this your argument I believe you will support so called men of God who can't manage to adhere to the noise decibel level stipulated in Lagos for religious house right?
And it's because they are super human who cannot be judged by mere mortal's ehn?
Pray, tell those 'brethren' you are wont to run to as adjudicator's are they immune to sin or have they been raptured or what?
And why would you expressly condemn all the actors in the legal system like they are all corrupt?
Don't we have some judges who are christians? Some are even pastors for crying out loud.
Please stop misleading countless soul's some who because they have found respite in your posts here at a point or another might find it difficult to disapprove some fictitious doctrine's like this one.

Brother, you dont seem to understand the big issue at hand here. the big issue here is that the whole world is corrupt. the world is under the power of the evil one 1 john 5 vs 19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

the whole world has been handed over to satanic spirits to control for a while as punishment to the israelites job 9 vs 24

as such there are no righteous christian judges or pastors. there is no such thing as a righteous judge. these are judges who operate in the gentile world we now live in. for them to take up such positions means they are not of the lord. psalms 94 vs 20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law? ok so these are thrones of iniquity. if you are for the lord you cannot be a judge in this gentile world. you wait till the kingdom of God is established on earth and then if you are one of the elect, you get to be part of the 144,000 judges and rulers along with christ. its like being a prostitute and then saying you are a decent person. its just not possible. scripture says in job 14 vs 4 can anyone pull out anything clean from an unclean thing ? its impossible. you get in the mud with pigs, sooner or later you are going to get dirty. so back to the point...the person who committed the crime if they want to hand themselves to the authority, its up to them but the person will still recieve his judgement from God. so if he is comfortable paying for the crime twice, then go ahead. like the person said, her father is a man of God and this guy has become a man of God, and he went to confess to the father, and the father forgives him. thats the end of the matter. now he has to wait for his punishment from God. he did not sin against the state. he sinned against his own soul. now if the state catch you in the middle of killing someone, then they are obligated to charge you. however this issue has been settled between two men of God. 1 corinthians 6 vs 5 I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers!

Guitarlife: I find this submission heretic. How can you conclude that it is of no use adherring to the justice system of the land. Remember that Jesus in saying that we should give ceaser his due's already covered the aspect of justice system.
He himself had his life taken through this same corrupt justice system.
Once the judgement had been passed wether rightly or wrongly we learnt to submit despite being able to revoke such pronouncement he made us understand that as far as we are still alive in this crooked and perverted world we must not only acknowledge but also submit totally to the laws of the land.

1 corinthians 6
If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people? 2 Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4 Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, do you ask for a ruling from those whose way of life is scorned in the church? 5 I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? 6 But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers!