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Goshen360: Am sorry bro. Am not in a good mood right now. Am sorry. I don't mean insult. Maybe I misunderstood you cos of my mood anyway. Well, if you don't mean it for evil, it's okay.

lol so i take it you dont know the meaning then huh ? whats wrong with your mood bruh ? hey we are alive, what else do we need right ? we supposed to be happy.

Goshen360:

well what is it ? that would make me understand why you think it is an expensive joke

Goshen360: It's good you asked after him. He is fine. I often speak to him off line outside NairaLand but he doesn't have time for some senseless conversation/thread anymore. But your jokes are too expensive sometimes. Please, kindly remove "Has He returned to the valley of dry bones" from your thread. It's not ideal please. Think about it. God bless you.

that aint no expensive joke. lighten up bruh. let me ask you a question. what is the valley of the dry bones ?

frosbel: Only God has immortality, the mortal soul shall die not live forever , it's in the bible.

"who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen." - 1 Timothy 6:16

immortality is for those who do not taste of the second death , they are the saints , who will receive the gift of immortality for their endurance to the very end.

Thank you

we are saying the same exact thing Frosbel. Happy weekend Sir

Sagamite: Na you I talk to?

If you know say you get mouth to talk, I would suggest you go back to the Timi Alaibe thread and answer the questions I asked you there.




The mooron requested for an intellectual bashing, and I was looking for intellectual suya.

I no dey speak to mama queen again jor. Imagine she no invite a whole SAGA to Buckingham palace for Diamond Jubilee dinner.

she definitely erred in her oversight. i am sure she is kicking herself everynight because of her error

frosbel: You beat me to it, I was joking.

See my amended update below.


The soul is mortal not immortal.

"When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." - 1 Corinthians 15:54

Romans 2:7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life

i amended my response too. it is mortal because it can be destroyed. but becomes immortal after the second death because then it will never be destroyed. your spirit lives forever after that

frosbel: Spot on !!

Coming from a 'heretic' I am surprised

i wouldnt quite call myself a heretic but hey the name sounds good so why not eh ? you know us nigerians, the more title we have the better. from henceforth i am known as heretic buzugee

i see you changed your response so let me add that technically the soul is mortal. however if you make it past the second death then it becomes immortal. hope that makes sense.

the soul is immortal only as far as the second death. those who dont make it past that stage will have their souls destroyed. those who make it past that stage will have immortality.

matthew 10 vs 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

YAHAWAH

Dagods: Well a lot of idea's,&xplanation,but all of u r on dis wonderful ideologist 'buzugee'd man simply made it straight on-point,"IRON SHAPPEN IRON"chikena.but tanx 2 u all infact i am learning a lot from u guyz.

IRON SHARPENS IRON my Brother.

do they have basketball courts in these gyms ? i want a place to play basketball that is free or at least not expenxsive. help me out guys. abuja or lagos.

Jenwitemi: Buzugee, you don dey smoke gbanna? Wetin you dey talk for hia? The talk here is that a living being is made up of 3 parts; SPIRIT, SOUL and BODY. Those are the 3 parts to any living organism. At death, the spirit and the soul leave the body and the body falls apart and decays. Where is the argument?

listen hard bruh. spirit is when the force has left your body in death and exists alone without a casing. soul is when the force is still in your body in life. the force is 'breath'. if you look up the word soul and spirit in greek, they both mean breath. these 2 words are synonyms, meaning they are the same word with different names. an example of a synonym will be 'soakies' and 'garri'. like how some people say i wan drink soakies. someone else says i wan drink garri. same thing-different name. and why should it matter to you anyhow ? you are an atheist right ? so you shouldnt believe in a spirit lol

[quote author=Ody-Ody]And the soul goes for judgement.[/quote]Once it leaves your body, it is no longer called soul. your spirit returns to the lord ( ecclesiastes 12 vs 7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. )

and then your spirit rests with the lord for 3 or 4 generations. and then you reincarnate back into the earth to recieve your judgement for how you lived your life. earth is the judgement ground. earth is where you pay for your sins. so when you reincarnate back to earth in a new body, then your soul recieves judgement.

ecclesiastes 3 vs 16[b] And I saw something else under the sun: In the place of judgment--wickedness was there, in the place of justice--wickedness was there.[/b] ( the place of judgement under the sun is earth. earth is where you recieve judgement from past life sins )

2 esdras 14 vs 35 Judgment comes after death, when we are restored to life, ( letting you know that you recieve judgement when you are reincarnated back to the earth ). and that in a nutshell is the sequence of life.

those saying the body is 3 parts ? come on now. ECCLESIASTES 12 VS 7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE. THE BODY RETURNS TO THE GROUND AND THE SPIRIT BACK TO GOD WHO GAVE IT. 2 PARTS NOT 3 PARTS.

soul and spirit are the same. they are synonyms. when you die and your spirit leaves your body and exists alone, then it is called the spirit. however when you are alive and it is within you, then it is called a soul. its like me saying if i remove groundnut from the shell, and give it another name, then it is something different. a groundnut is a groundnut whther it exists in a shell or whether removed from the shell. i may call them different names like -unshelled groundnut and shelled groundnut. thats all there is to it.

Patsey: [b]One thing about religion, particularly Christianity, is that every D1ck, Tom and Harry (wittingly or unwittingly and as clearly demonstrated here) claims to have not an answer, but the answer to every question. Such people also fail to reason with others' opinions and acknowledge the merit in others' line of argument. I can categorically say that if this passage were to feature in a degree examination in a university's theology department, any responses/answers which, in the final exegetical analysis, fail to acknowledge that the sons of God were fallen angels DEFINITELY get a fail grade. Period! This reminds me of how the SU brothers and sisters in our class in Form 5 those days out-rightly failed GCE Bible Knowledge in spite being able to quote almost the entire Bible. In spite their excellent preaching skills, these SU brothers and sisters failed to display acute critical thinking and critically engage with biblical texts, implying that preaching dexterity and biblical scholarship aren't necessarily bed-fellows -- with the later capable of transposing believers into Agnostics[/b]

For someone who uses a lot of unnecessary big words you always end up making absolutely no point. what exactly are you trying to say woman ?

Valiantvaliant: You are the kind of person that önly reads the part of the Bible that suits your beliefs and that is a wrong way of reading the Bible. If Jesus didnt want us to go to church.... In short arguing this with you is a waste of time. I can easily see that you are a sociopath.

stop peddling your bullshytt up in here. aint nobody buying what you are selling. first off if you were a REAL child of God, you wouldnt come up in here peddling this here filth. scripture says PERFECT LOVE DRIVES OUT FEAR ( 1 JOHN 4 VS 18 )
and what is love ? "I[b]f you love me, you will obey what I command [/b]( john 14 vs 15 )

so basically perfect love, which is obeying perfectly the lords commandments, drives out fear because when your love is perfect, the lord protects you, not even a hair will be harmed on your body.

and this brings me to the conclusion that you are a wicked nigga because scripture says ' the wicked flee when no man pursues ( proverbs 28 vs 1 ) ' what are you scared off ? all the wickedness you done did biting you in the butt ? thats why you are even scared of okada drivers ? animal in human skin

Jenwitemi: LOL! @ buzugee. Everybody is smoking something whenever they disagree with you. What do you smoke when you come up with your own theories?

Sup Field Marshall Jenwitemi. I smoke garri with groundnut before i come up with my theories

Frosbel, Its like going to the market and expecting not to see traders and merchandise. its like going to the strip club and not expecting to see butt nekkid hunnies. of course there has to be confusion in church. who can pull out a clean thing from an unclean thing ( job 14 vs 4 ) ? the church is an illegal den of iniquity. the place is a social gathering place for old women who are bored at home, single middle aged women who want husband, randy pastors, greedy pastors, people who want to showcase their latest outfits, people who want to display their latest dance moves when they catch the holy ghost, men preying on vulnerable women and whatnot. ACTS 17 VS 24 The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in CHURCHES built by human hands.
THE PLACE IS A NATURAL DEN OF CONFUSION. TO EXPECT OTHERWISE IS AKIN TO HOPING PIGS WILL FLY

[quote author=Adeniyi A.]@logic mind
quite revealing, from your xplanation can we now say that human soul is our conscious mind, our conscience n reservoir of knowledge - in other words,we have control over our soul and not spirit?we determine what it records?[/quote]This nigga is dumber than a box of rocks. he gets sound advice from the men of the lord but he gravitates towards the answer of the man of baal, Logic Mind, that is

Valiantvaliant: Didnt know this bullsh** happens in religion section too. All this barbarians taking adavantage of a social network to critisize anything their eyes see with their shallow brains, cant even construct good english sentences at your age. Dont even go back to school, you are beyound repairs. Just accept your fate and keep doing the only thing you are good at- no good. THANKS TO THOSE WHO HAD THE BRAINS TO UNDERSTAND MY TRUE INTENT.[b]Didnt know this bullsh** happens in religion section too. All this barbarians taking adavantage of a social network to critisize anything their eyes see with their shallow brains, cant even construct good english sentences at your age. Dont even go back to school, you are beyound repairs. Just accept your fate and keep doing the only thing you are good at- no good. THANKS TO THOSE WHO HAD THE BRAINS TO UNDERSTAND MY TRUE INTENT.[/b]Didnt know this bullsh** happens in religion section too. All this barbarians taking adavantage of a social network to critisize anything their eyes see with their shallow brains, cant even construct good english sentences at your age. Dont even go back to school, you are beyound repairs. Just accept your fate and keep doing the only thing you are good at- no good. THANKS TO THOSE WHO HAD THE BRAINS TO UNDERSTAND MY TRUE INTENT.

now i know you aint talking to my nigga Ptolomeus like that thats ma nigga from montevideo thats Uruguay for the unenlightened . oh and please stop giving bad advice to people. stop telling people to go to that den of iniquity called church. ACTS 17 VS 24[b] The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands.[/b]

Goshen360: Noooooooooooooooooooooo, Buzugee, please stop this racial sentiments here please. I beg of you. "Fair" in that context is NOT talking about complexion and when did you start using eartly dictionary to interpret God's word? "Fair" in that context means beautiful. Please stop all these racial sentiment please. There is something we are ALL going to learn from this thread. Leave circular dictionary out of this context, that will interpret the word "carnally" please, am begging you. Bible dictionary is welcome. Thank you.

DENIAL IS A RIVER IN EGYPT

expanding on my point that the daughters of men are the female descendants of cain who had a mark put on him so he will be recognizable by anyone who sees him ' known as the mark of cain ' which is the removal of his melanin and hence creating the caucasian race. This is KJV

GENESIS 6 VS 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

LETS LOOK AT THE MEANING OF FAIR- THE FREE DICTIONARY a. Light in color, especially blond: fair hair.
b. Of light complexion: fair skin.

SO AS YALL CAN SEE, THE BLACK MAN HAS HAD A CONSTANT HARDON FOR THE WHITE WOMAN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. AS SCRIPTURE SAYS. ECCLESIASTES 1 VS 9 What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

paranod123: I think people who blive Boko Haram are Muslim are giving them more power nd also lost there brain cos they can also kill in the name of God call a coward a coward tell me since u in this life a Muslim never help u b4 or a Christian never hurt u b4.this people are just coward like u. Who blive they are Muslim if they give u gun to kill Muslim u ll also proceed in the name of Jesus.nobody can fight 4God nd Quran said if u commit suicide u going to hellfire now tell me who they are fighting 4.devil people using the name of God are evrwere.Muslim or Christian u see som1 wear jaramia never mean he was alfa nd som1 holding Bible never mean he was a pastor.4 example Saudi is were Muslim originate nd also the same place osama was born can som1 give me reason y they disown him nd Usa welcome him.i stop there in norway a christian guy woke up 1day nd kill almost 100 peaple nobody talk abt it.the problem we have in this Country are the Journalist cos they only bring oneside story.am not surprise cos Nigeria is the Country u ll see zoology working as a banker nd lawyer working at the zoo.see politics are boko haram.cos they are only killing the poor peaple.my guys wise up.many minister that are Christian are also leaving north nothing as happen to them cos they ll get expose when they kill there self.God bless America nd pls God save Nigeria

am afraid thats too late. yall bout to feel the effect of those ' who bend the bow '

ijawkid: Perfect answer...

Buzugee hope ur learning from an atheist

Soul that sins dies...

Soul is d being itself.....

Adam became a living soul....

Animals are souls too....

still tryna figure out if you are being sarcastic

Logic Mind: Buzugee is wrong as usual.
There is a huge difference.
Spirit is everywhere. There are good and evil spirits, there is a holy spirit, an amadioha spirit, etc. No soul equvalents. Ever heard of the Holy Soul?.
Spirits can exist on their own and interact with the living. It is your virtual self. Souls live inside people and record everything for judgement.

Put is this way: the soul is the internal hard drive god put in you to record all your actions. When you die, this data is transfered to the mobile external drive called spirit. It is the spirit that wanders the earth as ghosts. It is the spirit that will stand judgement based on its data. And it is the spirit that will enjoy heaven or endure hell.
The bible made clear that souls die. Spirits never die.
Ezekiel 18:20, "The soul that sinneth, it shall die."

i see you are smoking that angel dust again huh ?

[quote author=Adeniyi A.]but there is a school of thought that a typical human being is 3 in 1 . how right is that?[/quote]as right as a 7ft tall pygmy

Goshen360: @ OP,

Buzugee is right. They are the same but used interchangeably. Some even use soul and mind interchangeably but the right usage should be soul and spirit depending on the context.

iron sharpens iron my brethren. yall make a brother sharp.