₦airaland Forum

Occurstaem:
I first stumbled upon Nairaland in early 2007.
I was impressed by the number of helpful threads ranging from career to health to business to family and education.
Then, the politics section have not been reduced to conspicuous tribalism but there were some subtle jabs at one another tribe mostly targeted at the Yorubas and the Northerners - especially at the Hausa and Fulani because there is no tribe known as Northerners but it was obvious the two tribes from the north were targeted.

Tribalism gained much foothold after the 2011 elections towards the Yorubas while the owner of this forum looked the other way. Then after the 2015 elections, the tribalism volcanoes erupted. Those who have been at the receiving end of tribalists and tribalism before on this forum started returning the favour back to the senders who were its initiator originally.

They started matching those tribalists fire for fire, words for words, abuses for even more abuses. Those who started tribalism on this forum have successfully turned their once victims who were at the receiving ends of their vitriols before to tribalists.

Take a critical look at this thread below objectively.
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

Northerners don't know how to dominate before. But those people taught the Northerners how to dominate and become powermongers after the first military coup.

And now, Yorubas that don't know how to hate before. Those people have successfully taught the Yorubas how to hate.

Omo just went through dat thread , igbo ppl don show us shege , even shege banza ......and dey are still finding it hard to believe why we voted against GEJ (a man dat has moved on while dey are still crying for him)

Igbo presidency nepotism go worst pass buhari own × 10 ......eeh

See how as den dey mock southwest ,if not for sale of national unity, BAT somehow pay den back in their own coin

iberrylee:
We have the Last Laugh

Seriously am just seeing dis thread, maybe for the first time......so nah lyk dis ibo treated us during GEJ era
Aaaah......unna go collect o

dominic17:
Is it your suicide? Besides I should be thione laughing at your ignorance, If only you that most of the things you wear are from Aba SE you won't type this shit . I thought you guys asked non Yoruba to go back to their regions why wailing?

Wailing ke, am just letting you know DAT
Igbo leaving southwest is inconsequential

Let assume all wat we wear is from aba (so who go lose, the manufacturer or the consumer??)

dominic17:
Igbos please take this call very serious if they can behave this way now you can image what will happen when Tinubu takes over.

Economic suicide, I laugh
So wen u ppl relocate back to se, we wot be able to buy used electronic, clothes and gadget again abi ??

Or we won't get part to our cars again ??

Or we won't see who to sell low quality shoes to us again ??

What other services do you ppl render ??

Onyiridike:
Obviously, you have lived all your life I Yoruba land.
Until you travel, you will continue to believe that your father's farm is bigger than all farms.

I don't need to travel b4 I know dat south africa have beta infrastructure and manufacturing capacity than nigeria

Same with SW and SE.....
From infrastructure (port,rail,road), agriculture, manufacturing, forestry, service sector, education. (Public and private).....we surpass u ppl in all aspect

Onyiridike:
It is now imperative that you travel outside South west to other states so that you will know that the world is bigger than your ewedu farm.
I was trading in those market between 2006-2008

I am not your mate.

This is a market that one customer can buy goods worth 600 millions in one shop at instance.

Lol....a statistic dat says 40% of transactions are not official, same report is claiming a specific amount ($3bn).....and no other source dat back such claims.......
Gone are the days ivory coast, or Ghana will come and buy things even in Lagos ......everybody dey order hin thing from alibaba and makes use of their country port

Onyiridike:
You are daft.
The idiot I quoted claimed that nobody will patronise Igbos if they take their business to the east and I reminded him how crankshaft he is.
Talking about literacy,you will only pray and wish to get to my level.
Ivory Coast and Cameroon patronise Aba and Onitsha more than some states in Nigeria.

U still dey vex, dat is why u can't see clearly .....the truth be say Igbo are essentially traders.....taking your business back to east is technically impossible.....and unna business is not really generating much for sw...
Agriculture, mineral resource, forestry, manufacturing, CofO/land tax, civil servant salary dat is where bulk of the igr comes from

How much do you think and average car part market can give to the government ......dey are negligible.....not to talk of used electronics or okirika dat u ppl dominate

[quote author=Onyiridike post=121941269][/quote]Mycustoma gives u figure and u believe am ......lol

Onyiridike:
The annual transaction in Nnewi and Onitsha main market is far more than all budgets of all SW states combined.
Obviously, you have never lived in the East.

Lyk I use to say, learning trade and speaking broken english no mean say u are literate
Imagine comparing trade transactions and state budget togeda??

Is lyk comparing banks annual transactions and their yearly profit togeda ??
It is possible to makes sales of billions and still running into loss
Do you think it is market that generation igr for government (no wonder se struggle to have significant growth in igr )

Nothing much achieve (even the few seats lp was able to get. By the tym political transfer market open we got see how many go remain)


The only thing dey achieve is weaking the main opposition
Election wey pdp suppose win by over 5 million votes
Imagine tinubu lost (lagos and osun state to PDP.....and atiku come win SS,SE and also slightly winning NC, not forgetting he won't Kaduna , with kwankwasoo taking over kano)

PDP would have been announced by Saturday evening of dat election dat 25th feb

Karemarealty288:
Tell me the achievements of those that has been in the centre of power since 1960....
On be this same Nigeria abi na another one?

Believe me there are benefits to it ( in the aspect on infrastructure.....from good road, to functioning railways, functioning port, inland port, agriculture support ).....all dis do help the economy of a region in the longer term

The AKK gas pipeline buhari built for them, the crude oil exploration, the railway, new universities, the sukuk road, hydroelectric dam, irrigation fadama project, modernization of airport, buying and keeping ammunition esp. Warjet in their region, giving dem appointment, jobs, and making sure dey dominate the military,
Look the benefit plenty

Without federal government do you think 3 states in southwest will be join togeda with modern railway (remaining 3 more states to join by then we will have all our states joint to grade by railway)

Chukdobz20:
Same things was said, yet he won 16 states if not more.. Don't underestimate LP and obi.. They will expand and throw much shocker subsequent elections.. Watch and see.. Mark this comment and date.

Unless free and fair elections is not guaranteed.. Else if LP will take over..

Try to understand your brother, was is the possibility of lp forming aliance with the north b4 anoda election (it will be easier in PDP than the new party which campaign along religion line)

Can a southern win and election without support of the north (esp. Wen you are going against your fellow southern with strong root in the north)??

DanielPat01:
Had it been you been you added proof to all this things you mentioned it would have made sense.

Intellects argue with proof not wishful and hopeful thinking born out of cheap rumours.

Your subtle blathers won't be believed by me until quality evidence are provided. But the most important to me will be address though.

From what you wrote most of your "success" or should I say "Achievements" can be attributed to Lagos State which I counted out from the very begining being that it was the nations capital for atleast 70 yrs compared to Abuja of just 31 yrs.

Like is there any real functional port with huge activities going on it aside Lagos? Non actually. Most are still very much under construction.

And talking about ports, it the sole duty of the FG to build solid ports where necessary as it usually considered Federal prohect but what have the Buhari done In the East.

The only obvious thing he (Buhari) did in the East was to build the second Niger bridge in a sub-standard way with lack of aesthetic, neglecting and cutting off the initial wide lane plus railway corridor projected for it but went on to build and complete the Lagos-Ibadan railway plus Abuja-Kaduna railway.

Even the South East railway project was ended by the Federal Government. I ain't talking shit. Go and verify (Google). We are all observing.

The government of Buhari and Goodluck paid more attention to the west and North than the SS and SE if not you all won't be capping shit.


Lastly, saying South-west is bigger than the East in all ramification is a big insult and a statement uttered out of ignorance. Come on! Really bro? 😕



In terms of the poverty index you actually mentioned you actually made a fool of yourself there. 😆 You went reading outdated blogs... 😂

Dude the status quo changed late last year. Here is an official post by The Cable index that actually hit the Front Page (FP) on Nairaland.

The South-East is the least poorest state in Nigeria currently overtaking both the South South and the South West 😁

Kindly Verify to gain current knowledge.
https://www.nairaland.com/7444949/number-poor-people-nigeria-geo

When it comes to education; the South-East have the least proportion of out of school children.

Anambra my state is the state with the least number of out of school children. It's just a matter of time before the South-East reclaim there position as the most educated tribe and region in Nigeria just like it was before the advent of the devastating civil war.

Here is proof of what I'm saying (Satisense official stat)

Note: this post also made FP on Nairaland.
https://www.nairaland.com/7453717/list-states-lowest-number-out

Only the ignorant would rule Igbos out completely in various growth category. I think Igbos have proven themselves in every sphere of life not to be underrated/underestimated.

Now before you quote me again make sure you have your stats right and your proof a quality one and intact. Peace buroda mi. 🙂❣️

weda na fg or foreign investor or Igbo developer, wat matters is dat it is in southwest and it will added to sw gdp.....just lyk dangote refineries


you ppl don't have port , neither do you ppl have railway, nor metro station
our economic capital Lagos economy is bigger than the economy of Ghana as whole (so if southwest is a country our economy is far bigger than DAT of Ghana)
we pass unna by all means

abi we no pass unna for agriculture ??

manufacturing nk0 ??

Fut9ure:
You are a shame

Look at all the comments 🤣 above
Nigerians are sick and even people are liking his comments
Where is the most educated, Liberal and accommodating gibberish the South west keep deceiving the world with

dey play......until ngozi chinedu rule kano
akinsanya kamorudeen rule enugu

nah till then chinedu will come and rule Lagos

mrvitalis:
Lol that's a phantom lie ...give an Igbo man the ticket first let's test this theory ... PDP would sweep south and middle belt with obi ...can even win Kaduna , would get 25 % in Bauchi,gombe, Taraba and would get 25 % on most south west states ...how won't they win

Even if we are to go with wat you just said obi has lost already......esp. If he is going against someone lyk southwest tinubu

mrvitalis:
Really why can't Atiku and PDP work for an Igbo man to be President after 24 years of being loyal to PDP

PDP said Igbo man can't win an election for them ,obi showed them he can ...in 2027 if PDP like let them not collapse structure for obi

if pdp collapse structure for obi......obi will still lose.

unless northern nigeria decides to vote for Igbo (who are always against Islam, shouting islamization, fulanisation, yoruba muslim, all christian shud vote for obi etc)

helinues:
Fake

which fake, apart from religious consideration

it is a good thing, abi u think because SP is given to Igbo there hatred of tinubu will stop ??

beta to reinforce your loyal friends than giving your enemy power.....(if am tinubu either NW/NC shud get it irrespective of religion)

DanielPat01:
Imagine that is just Onitsha na. By the you see Nnewi, Neni, Ekwulobia, Oba and the likes I didn't mentioned Awka because this places are more developed than Awka. Go to Google bro.

Besides that is just side. A satellite view will show you it an urbanized city. Onitsha is a Metropolis in the making (fact).

If Anambra should were to be Nigeria's capital trust me it's where you would want to be (Best weather, with little effect of harmattan).

When it comes to economy just forget it. You can't rule the South East put in that aspect. The revenue alone from Onitsha main market (one of the largest in Africa) let alone other big markets speaks volumes.

u ppl always talk about market (because igbo ar essentially traders)

look southwest is bigger than southeast in all ramification

let talk about infrasture (we are beta both in quality and in quantity)
from functioning port to functioning railway, to beta quality roads and even quantity

in term of education we have beta private and public universities (both quality and quantity)

in term of agriculture and forestry we beat you ppl handdown

in term of manufacturing we also beat you ppl handdown, in fact a single state in southwest has more industry than the entire Southeast

in term of earning foreign exchange through export we beat you ppl handdown (abi wetin unna dey export , we have cashew,cocoa,hardwood etc )

in fact animal husbandry u ppl rely on us for unna poultry need

there are more cars in southwest than the rest of nigeria combine

in term of security we still beat you ppl handdown

in term of poverty index we have the least poverty, every research always says so....and you ppl are note even second (because ss always come second)

IGBOSON1:
What’s this fool banging on about!? You power hungry dolts see grabbing of power as an end (a negative end of primitive accumulation of wealth and for ethno-religious based one-upmanship) and not a means to a good an noble end! All you’re interested in is that Buhari was president, you don’t give a rats ass about the kind of fractured country and comatose economy he’s leaving behind!

You can do whatever TF with the poisoned chalice you call Nigerian presidency! You’ve connived and plotted to deny Ndigbo that position for more than half a century, so we’re used to your evil antics! However, you may choose to ask the muslim core north that have produced Nigerian president more times than one cares to remember….you can ask them if the fortunes of their average citizens are better than those of their Igbo counterparts!

And since when did GEJ become the gold standard by which everyone else should fashion their utterances and actions!? He’s a ‘good slave’ in una eyes because he was so dull as to allow himself to be schemed and rigged out of power by the islamofacist despot and his emi lo kan southern partner! You despise Peter Obi in particular and Ndigbo in general because they don’t have that appeasing, slavish and Stockholm-syndrome attitude! This is all what that admonition to ‘move on’ is all about: ‘accept the cheating, marginalisation and being rigged out of contention (even though it’s rightfully Igbo lo kan), and move on….and if you behave yourself and don’t rock the boat or shake the table, we might just be ‘gracious’ enough to consider you for senate president or secretary to the gov’t of the federation’!

your situation can't be help,
apart from the religion card obi played (which is not enough to make any body president)
Nigeria is divided in to north, east and west (nothing lyk southern nigeria )

no single region can make himself president, so if you ppl continue to be fighting the 2 other region, do you think president can come any time soon........same you will abuse everybody except you ........politics is a game dat has to be played

bravery/or overwiseness is not enough .....you ppl are just tolling the part of awolowo, wat was yoruba able to gain from dat......u beta fins one region and start building brides with dem ......not necessary with the Yoruba .....maybe with the north

IGBOSON1:
What’s this fool banging on about!? You power hungry dolts see grabbing of power as an end (a negative end of primitive accumulation of wealth and for ethno-religious based one-upmanship) and not a means to a good an noble end! All you’re interested in is that Buhari was president, you don’t give a rats ass about the kind of fractured country and comatose economy he’s leaving behind!

You can do whatever TF with the poisoned chalice you call Nigerian presidency! You’ve connived and plotted to deny Ndigbo that position for more than half a century, so we’re used to your evil antics! However, you may choose to ask the muslim core north that have produced Nigerian president more times than one cares to remember….you can ask them if the fortunes of their average citizens are better than those of their Igbo counterparts!

And since when did GEJ become the gold standard by which everyone else should fashion their utterances and actions!? He’s a ‘good slave’ in una eyes because he was so dull as to allow himself to be schemed and rigged out of power by the islamofacist despot and his emi lo kan southern partner! You despise Peter Obi in particular and Ndigbo in general because they don’t have that appeasing, slavish and Stockholm-syndrome attitude! This is all what that admonition to ‘move on’ is all about: ‘accept the cheating, marginalisation and being rigged out of contention (even though it’s rightfully Igbo lo kan), and move on….and if you behave yourself and don’t rock the boat or shake the table, we might just be ‘gracious’ enough to consider you for senate president or secretary to the gov’t of the federation’!

your situation can't be help,
apart from the religion card obi played (which is not enough to make any body president)
Nigeria is divided in to north, east and west (nothing lyk southern nigeria )

no single region can make himself president, so if you ppl continue to be fighting the 2 other region, do you think president can come any time soon

DanielPat01:
Onitsha in pictures...

because of some high dense low quality buidling, u think dat is all is needed
go and see beta modern urban planning in Ibadan (with lot of quality duplex) inland road wey no reach dat of ondo state
because lagos is densely built no mean say it is beta than low rise cape town nah

Dafresh:
See you see Nigeria Economy can you swear with you life that Peter Obi graduated with third class
Urchins no get common sense

wetin he come graduate with .....
let my ppl go 3rd klass dullard

DOCU:
Better failed doing wrong thing than doing wrong in an attempt to succeed.
Enjoy! I doubt if an Igbo man is interested in retrogression.

issokay, if dat is wat u ppl want past shud be dictating future for u ppl

JasonScoolari:
Go and face your brothers fighting themselves.... Leave all these shalaye.

Don't be clever by half.

igbo ar even more interested in southwest politics than Yoruba

dey so much love dis region

IGBOSON1:
I remember around 2015, elections in Nigeria were starting to show signs of being progressively more credible and safer! Then some short-sighted and power-hungry clowns thought it was a good idea to scheme Buhari and his hegemonic ilk into office, and it’s been retrogression and downhill in ALL FACETS of national life ever since!

GEJ is a southsouth man and first to congratulate tinubu, while can't you ppl move on eeh.....at the end of the day ss will be taking slot se suppose take, because of failure to move on

JasonScoolari:
A grain of furck, I won't give....

Let them continue doing what they love best... Kill themselves and blame Peter Obi.

no be everything u must comment,......and at the end of the day u pp will keep wondering y ppl hate igbo
wetin concern obi for the Mata

DanielPat01:
For where 😏 had it been you mentioned Kano I for follow you reason. We ain't just talking about industries, we are also talking about investments, Urbanization and good road network (inland roads).

An Igbo man might brag with his money but never with the beauty of his hometown.

Go and ask your elders even when Obasanjo reached Anambra state, I think Onitsha he shouted. He was like; is here they fought they Biafran war or somewhere else.

Even a Taraba neighbor of mine here in Abuja that went there was shouting. That how come we don't talk about this... Bla bla bla

Here is a link to some blogs... Although the first is not that accurate. Make sure you visit the links so you will be informed properly.

https://nigerianinfofinder.com/most-developed-states-in-nigeria/

https://eucarlrealty.com/most-developed-states-in-nigeria/

Then here is the main keyword on Google.
https://www.google.com/search?q=most+developed+state+in+Nigeria

But dude aside Abuja and Lagos you can never compare any state in terms of development to South East and South-South states. SE & SS especially SE top the list.

it is only ignorance that would make people say Peter Obi Anambra state is like shit yet he wants to rule Nigeria. While in reality there is no state that aside ABJ and LAG that that is as developes as Anambra.

FYI this is and old picture of Onitsha, Anambra state (before the completion of the second Niger bridge).

Show me just one place as beautiful as this in the whole of Oyo and Ogun and I would believe you. Make una try do small research abeg. Just a little research would help.

simple question
BTW Ogun state and Amanbra......whose economy is bigger

more than 10million Yoruba dey Lagos (Buh u lol will keep shouting we shudnt mention our economic capital).....now btw ogun state and anambra which economy is bigger

DanielPat01:
You are just one the misinformed and ignorant individual (no insult but a fact). You should stop being ignorant because it leads to misinformation.

A little Google search would have helped.

Those who condemned Peter Obi back then, are those who haven't started seeing the effect of his works but when the realized his good deeds the failed to correct their past mistake.

My family was one of the people that condemned him after his first tenure due to some roads he left unattended.

But after we saw his good deeds and the roads attended to we went to correct our mistake and also went all out to vote for him.

Peter Obi achievement brekete for Google. Google is your friend. Had it been you are on Twitter I would have given you update.

With all the Yoruba governor that ruled still you can not compare any state in Nigeria to Anambra State development except Lagos and Abuja former capital.

Buroda mi before you argue with again simply go and verify.

Oyo state and Ogun state is ahead of anambra

despite anambra is in d same position as Lagos
(the economic capital of the Igbo and Yoruba respectively)

abi u think say anambra get industry pass Ogun state ??

FreedomfromtheT:
Sir, this thread is not about who most Yorubas voted for in the last presidential election. They are entitled to their choice. Rather the issue is about their intimidation, harassment and uncivilized behaviour towards those they think voted against their preferred candidate in the same election and those that will still do in this coming Saturday.
Does that show that they are really sophisticated, enlightened and civilized?

nobody dey harass anybody (it more of cyberbullying ).....and I happens mostly on nairaland/twitter
which every party involved is guilty of.

abi b4 election u no see how obedient dey attack ppl up and down for not ignorantly supporting their candidate

DanielPat01:
I use to think the Yorubas are highly educated and intelligent as they claim too.

Like if you ask anyone in Nigeria they would gladly tell you the Yorubas are the most educated tribe in Nigeria followed by the Igbos the comes other tribes.

But No this elections says different, infact it says alot.

There is a quote my late grandpa always drop, he would say it in Igbo and also say it in Pidgin English and main English yet I never understood it clearly until recently.

He said and I quote;
"Na nwamú gara akwúkwo aburó na oma ifé"

"My Pikin go school no mean say E get sense."

"That my child is educated doesn't mean he is sensible"

The Yorubas have proven without doubt that they are overhyped.

I was speaking to a Yoruba friend of mine from Ekiti state few days ago, who was is a core supporter of Peter Obi. His compound is just a stone throw from mine..

He said to me that he is ashamed of his people, that he thought for once they would get it right. Especially people from his state. That the worse is the tribal shade on the Labour Party candidate a Lagosian because he is married to an Igbo woman.

I couldn't help but agree with him. From my experience majority of yorubas, I mean 70% are Tribalistic and brutal in tribalism/trabalistic approach.. I just pray this doesn't lead into a a tribal war somehow.

If not it's is finished (The End of Nigeria).

okay we are not sensible because we fail to vote obi, a 8years governor without legacy projects

if you ar to rate obi among the governors dat have rules southwest since 1999.....am sure obi will not enta top 10

tinubu,fashola,sanwolu, ambode, mimiko, agagu, aregbesola,fayemi , fayose, makinde

forget it obi is a failure (wat his anambra ppl said about him, is still on nairaland )

Alusiizizi:
Really? Sure looks like domination to me, especially considering that Igbo people are a definite minority in every single one of these Yoruba states.



You are definitely wrong in this. Open your eyes and look around, notice that apart from selling pepper and garri in the market the Igbos dominate in virtually all economic endeavors.



Precisely my point regarding Shop-Rite, Jumia, Walmart and such. There is no way that those huge enterprises, who have to spend untold millions just to keep their structure from collapsing can compete with that stand-alone Igbo merchant.


Actually you are correct in this but you left something out, Yoruba have indeed started venturing into some of those businesses with the help of Igbo businessmen. I cannot count how many times that I have seen a Yoruba boy serving as apprentice at an Igbo mans office, a position that used to be reserved not only for Igbo boys but boys that are related to the man. Indeed most of these Yoruba that you refere to have gainful connection/history with Igbo men, so you see, my point still stands, the only solution is for both tribes to co-operate for mutual benefit.

I laugh,
for your mind now everything about southwest revolves round the igbo
u don't know anything, Igbo business all in all, is still in the minority


even same with the Hausa