₦airaland Forum

Blaqroman0000:
the truth is you don't understand how your sw region is poor... If you think sw is much more advanced, then stop selling land to the se and come down to se and buy off our properties like we have rendered so many sw landlords homeless🤣

southeast is too small dat is why u ppl take pride in buying lands, buying lands is no big deal in southwest, we have it plenty, new residential and commercial.location continue to spring up

even if igbo bu enough land equal to dat of the entire Southeast we go still have enough to sell to other tribes ......yet agricultural land go still dey there


southwest have the largest construction industries in the whole of nigeria

nonhuman:
you are not even ashamed the whole Nigeria with foreign mecenaries fighting just a dot tribe, is that how weak you lots are

it does not mata, prolonged war is not good for any country economy

America military is 20times bigger than that of Iraq......yet he beg all NATO members and asia allied to join him in the war

which makes Baghdad to fall in not tym

nonhuman:
tomorrow now na you go first come out to shout southern unity when the north wants to deal with you

why will the north deal with us (u think we are afraid to be in the opposition parties .....we have done dat for so long)

the only region wey no fear north na Yoruba (we only fear ourselves)......
look at wat amotkun is doing in southwest why no other region can replicate same thing

Wiseandtrue:
If a coup is what we need then so be it!!!

Military regime was even better than what we have today

Is this democracy

Nigerians cannot be discriminating against Nigerians in Nigeria

We have the right to elect who we want and that is why it is called an election!!!

sure , Buh the problem with africa is dat we are bad losers ......4 strong ppl contested for an election .......no be juju to think it is only if my candidate win is wat will makea it a good election ??

Madmohamed123:
my brother the truth is it will never happen again igbo will defend their self whit what ever we have this is not 1960 we have the money we have the population we are ready to move the one that happens before is unexpected we know what is going on and we are ready to defend our self.

This time no British no Egypt no body will help Nigeria again against Igbo and it will be a right time to revenge the genocide

wat makes you think nobody will help nigerja again,wen it is now easy to hire foreign mercenaries from africa, asia and europe

the results will still be d same, food supply will be cut off, currency will be cut off, second niger bridges will be cut off dividing Igbo out home from the one abroad ......southeast I took small to fight nigeria in any way

it is not a mistake why nigeria keep most of his ammunition in Kaduna rada than south.....how many war jet will Igbo have b4 the war compare to nigeria army

u ppl beta continue unna tradinh and forget any useless war

nonhuman:
In 1966: Nearly 1,000,000 of them were massacred in the North as revenge killings for a coup that was plotted by a young man that bears their name but had never been to their land.

They escaped back to their homeland and wanted a country of their own, but they were told that they must belong to one indivisible Nigeria

For three years, they resisted and lost another 3,000,000 of their kith and kin who were fed to the vultures. Their entire homeland was a killing field, they were killed, and they were starved. Kwashiorkor finished up their starving children. Many of their wives and daughters were raped and some were taken into forced marriages.

After three years of annihilation, the genocide ended. The few that were still alive crept out of their holes and re-embraced the country that has massacred them without a just cause.

To return to the country, they were economically stripped of their remaining dignity and offered only £20 (₦40) each in exchange for their money they had in the banks before the war broke out ....millionaires before the war restarted life with £20 (₦40). They did not complain, they accepted their fate and reintegrated with all.

Within a short while, the country embarked on an indigenization policy which enabled many of their South Western, South-South and Northern brothers to buy up major multi-nationals at a giveaway price... but with £20 (₦40) in their pockets, they could only watch .... those that owned houses in the big cities lost their homes to the criminal policy of 'Abandoned property' as enacted by some states aimed at committing official stealing.

In the civil service, the policy of the quota system made it impossible for many of them to be accepted back into their former jobs ... In trying to get a quality education for their children; the policy of giving admission to children from educationally disadvantaged states, saw their children score so high at entrance exams but locked out from most of the Federal Government Colleges and universities; even though they were coming from war and for three years did not have any functional school system, they were still categorized as educationally advantaged. 53 years after the war, the educationally disadvantaged states are still educationally disadvantaged and the Igbos are still blamed for everything and denied major government presence and projects.

Locked out of schools and locked out of public service, they embraced trading and other menial jobs that a man could do with his hands to feed his family. To survive, they spread out again to the big cities with memories of their dead ones and rundown homeland.

Everywhere they went, they lived frugally, sometimes, a master lived in his shop with his 5 boys until they made enough money to rent a one-room apartment.

Of all their brothers, the Yorubas were the most accommodating after the war and this made many of them quickly forget the pains of the war and settled down to play major roles in the development of the communities, in which they found themselves.

In their host communities, they never looked back in donating towards the building of schools, churches and whatever was required...Some even married the daughters of their hosts and some took titles. At drinking bars, you find Jide and Emeka drinking and laughing. At school, you find Ebube and Bisola reading and playing together as best of friends.

Soon, at the turn of the 90s, many of their town unions encouraged them to completely trust their hosts and join hands in opening up areas that were hitherto, uninhabited, especially the swamps and the mangroves....they bought swamps and the term 'sand filling' became popular, they bought thick mangrove forests and in mowing them down, they became Osuofia and the money coming from them, made their hosts happy because most of the places they bought and transformed had laid waste for years.

With vigour, they negotiated for lands to build markets, cleared the lands and built the markets and were happy to welcome state and local government tax and rate officials. If you slap them on one cheek, they gladly turned the other with a smile. When they build houses, they trust everything to their Yoruba builders, and even in their homeland, all their building projects were done by the Yoruba boys they have come to love and trust.


Then...
1999 came....all celebrated the re-emergence of democracy…
but gradually, a new anti-Igbo message started, but they ignored it because they have completely fallen in love with their host...

In 2014.....
The divisive politicians showed up in their numbers and made them; the Igbos the sacrificial lamb all over again...

Someone wrote somewhere and I agree with him completely that:
In 1993, the Igbos voted Abiola against Tofa who had an Igbo as Vice-President…

In 1999, the Igbos voted for Obasanjo en-block

Obasanjo is Yoruba

Obasanjo lost Yorubaland but scored 85%+ in Igbo land

In 2003, the Igbos voted for Obasanjo

Obasanjo scored 95% in some Igbo states

Obasanjo defeated Ojukwu in Igbo land.

In 2007, the Igbos voted for Yaradua

Yaradua was Hausa-Fulani

Yaradua scored his highest percentage of votes in Igbo land

In 2011, the Igbos voted for Jonathan

Jonathan is Ijaw

Jonathan scored 95%+ in Igbo land

In 2015, the Igbos voted
Jonathan scored a higher percentage in Igbhe coming Governorship election in Lagos l gains.
We know them and they know themselves.

I post this because it is deep, and it has to be corrected !!!

u ppl voted abiola lol.....dat is why he won only a single state out of 5 states.....be deceiving unna self
you ppl shud know one thing every tribe do wat favours her ......and there is nothing lyk southern nigeria .......wat we have is north ,east , and west (with each of dem cunningly protecting is own interest )

Alusiizizi:
I suppose it's pointless having meaningful discussion with the likes of you. A parting question if you don't mind. Yoruba towns were centered around markets long before ...., so tell me, what happened interim? Why the current domination by Igbos?

there is no dominant stop deceiving yourself

it just specialization in used goods (clothing and electronic)...then car spare part dat is all

and Yoruba patronize u ppl because we generally believe unna goods dey cheaper (with current economic situation in nigeria go ask your ppl)

Yoruba have started venturing into some business previously allocated for the Igbo same with Hausa (though some Igbo are also stepping up their game using their decades long experience)

MichaelSokoto:
am not famzing anybody...

Igbos and hausas engage in bizness more together

expanciate your point .......igbo buys more goods from the north than west??

or north patronize Igbo's more than southwest ??

heniford2:
bro i understand this but please this is not banter stuff in SW we only get to hear lagos along more than the whole SW states why

becos dat is our economic capital

there are over 10million yorubas in lagos, and u ppl believe we shudnt talk about dem......i myself have worked for sometimes there b4 moving out

is just lyk telling the north not to talk about kano.....a commercial cities dey have being using for over 1000 years

BiafranPatriot:
So where do the proceeds of the IGR generated from those companies go to?

Why will Dapo Abiodun, have State that is the headquarters of people that don't have clean water to bath in the 21st century? Apart from Lagos which belongs to the Aworis and Eguns...all other SW states are celebrated shytholes and pigsty. These are FACTs!!

I guess the aworis descend from enugu
very soon unna go talk say nah ijebu and egba owns ogun state not yoruba


assuming u ppl use d same amount of energy spent on calling out southwest governors, maybe unna side go don dey livable
no be ment to leave ikpeazu (kerosine sharing governor ) and be mentioning dapo

the worst of southwest governors is beta than the best of southeast

gidgiddy:
Besides Lagos and Ibadan, no other place qualifies to be called a city in the South West

beside abuja, lagos any maybe porrharcourt no other place qualify to called a cities
not even kano

Buh wen it comes to towns decent enough for human habitation no region comes close to southwest, w get dem plenty (dat si the reason other regions dey rush us )

PrinceOfLagos:
Remove Lagos and the south west will be reduced to almost nothing

yeah Buh enough to be bigger than southeast ......

MichaelSokoto:
in all markets I ever get to visit, I notice d igbos and hausas engage each other more in bizness transactions more than any other tribes, they understand themselves well...

Yoruba is different

see did one famzing the north i laugh
even to the north, southwest still remain the biggest market to their goods abi unna buy cows pass southwest ??

nedu666:
Wat a joke. If millions of lgbos resident in the sw should leave, lagos in particular will be on same level as most states. Don't kid urself. As for the remaining sw states being better than se, that is a even bigger joke. People in those states are fleeing to lagos to survive. Which jobs exist in ekiti, osun, ondo, oyo apart from govt jobs

be deceiving yourself, why unna no leave
shey na UK need nigerians or nah nigerians need uk.........i repeat plus or minus Lagos southwest economy if bigger than southeast
productivity is higher in southwest than any other region in nigeria

you said there are no jobs in southwest, is it southeast dat have jobs and yet u ppl keep trooping in thousand weekly to southwest , yet our economy is big enough to accommodate you ppl same with all other tribe in nigeria


remove Lagos, our manufacturing capacity is still bigger than dat of southeast
how many agroallied industry ar southeast comoare to southwest

how do you pp generate from forestry, kolanut, cocoa,cashew .....why do you think the Lebanese so love the southwest .....if no be economy prosperity

0m0nnakoda:
You come to sell Gala

You do not do business
Stop saying that
you are traders

shud I tell dem dat there are more vehicle (cars) in southwest than the rest of the five region in nigeria combine ?? or no need

raskymonojendor:
Funny thing is that they are not even only in Lagos, go to Ibadan, you will find them there in large numbers hustling for their daily bread. Even in other SW cities like Akure, Ife, Abeokuta e.t.c.

I no want to caste dem nii , we know dem verywell apart from some few extraly rich igbo with (big properties and business) majoritt of dem live in pitiful condition , the highest standards most of their 2x2 shop business can give dem is living in Face me I slap you , struggling to pay their children school fee, some cannot even afford to have their family with dem despite marry at a very late age ....(a lot of drunkard)......Buh here on nairaland every igbo nah millionaire while other tribes dey suffer

Thebadpolitican:
Argue with the screenshot

Benin ruled over the entire Yoruba people including ife

I leave with this

there was no tym benin rules ile ife, infact no tym did it ruled Oyo, Oyo had always been the stronger side



and even your story about ijebu am unable to trace it to any source on internet

Early history
The Ijebu Kingdom is estimated to be one of the earliest kingdoms founded in the African rain forest. [5] Ijebu-Ode was originally a city founded by a leader from Ife. Like most other early states in the Yoruba region, they began to build a series of walls and ditches around the city, construction of these walls began in 800–1000 AD when the walls were called Sungbo’s Eredo. The walls extended to eventually cover the entirety of the Ijebu kingdom. It was massive with an estimated 3.5 million cubic meters of moved earth and sand and is among the largest man-made monuments in Africa. [5] The evidence found is not linked to an isolated townbut to a kingdom’s large dike, a kingdom which was once functional and had at its disposal a high level of agricultural practice, an established pottery-making tradition, and possibly an army that triggered the construction of the Eredo. [5]

0m0nnakoda:
Biggest how?
Ask him the land area occupied he cannot tell you
Ask him sales turnover he cannot tell you
All he knows is it is biggest because his grandfather told his father
What is it that they sell there is it manufactured in Onitsha or Imported via Lagos?
Who goes there to shop
When you interrogate it you would see it is bullshit
Why does biggest market matter?
Never head of biggest market in London
That just means bigger chaos
Ask him is it a pleasant experience visiting Onitsha market?
It stinks ,is full of touts and can be violent

thank you o , I wanted to comment on Dat b4, i just say make I give it to dem lyk dat


as if market is rates by size rada than sales

a single shop can be making sales equal to wat 20 other shops is making a day (Buh according to him the 20 other shops form a big market)

MaliCampus:
Lagos is no man's land. Say something else. I'm very sure you are from Ondo state

Igbo love good thing

interestingly plus or minus Lagos , southwest economy is bigger than that of southeast

Thebadpolitican:
And benin forces defeated oyo in ekiti during the parapo war

Benin wouldn't want to stop such war when it was beneficial to their economy
Read the screenshot

your screenshort say nothing both side both western ammunition ( because the war was the most advanced in western side through the use of modern ammunition)

ekiti both weaoon from.thd white through the Benin , while the Ibadan have their own way of getting it also
in no way did Benin interfere in the battle of OYO empire who born monkey

0m0nnakoda:
Ibos come to Ibadan buy day old chicks
No significant player in The entire SE
All they know is buying and selling

u dey mind dem (because we are not boastful lyk dem na wetin dey give dem mind )

do dey even know how much southwest cocoa a nd cashew industry worth

despite lot of our businessmen reside and do business in Lagos (a Yoruba state)
if you remove Lagos from southwest the remaining states economy put togeda is still bigger than that of southeast

MaliCampus:
The biggest market in Nigeria is in South East, not south west.Tunde travel and see,even if it's just for sight seeing.Leave your fathers house. Igbos will continue to dominate you in Lagos

biggest market dat the total economy worth no reach dat of tinubu Lekki free trade zone, housing dangotd refinery and other chemicals industry .....shior

0m0nnakoda:
Let me burst your bubble BUSINESS is not just trading
Container and warehouse
That is all Ibos know
Tell us which of the following Ibos outcompete Yoruba in

Agriculture,, The largest sector in the economy Ibos are irrelevant in agriculture
Education
Insurance
IT
Logistics
Telecommunications
Banking
Manufacturing
Fintech
Oil and Gas
Healthcare
Transport

All you know is container and warehouse
That is a tiny part of BUSINESS

thank you for dis, because of thier dominance in used goods trade (from clothing to electronic to car part).....dey think Dat is all wat makes an economy
a typical state in southwest bar Lagos will generator more igr from forestry, cash crop,small scale manufacturing (lyk bread,water,block,sawmill,paper)
education (schools, transportation, banking etc

the edge southwest have ahead all other region is it stronghold in the services sector dat no region can match (brought about high literate population)

an average Igbo think learning trade and speaking broken English already qualify him to be literate


how many private higher institution are in southwest compare to other region (no region comes close )

HeartlessMan:
Cowardice is why Afonjas cannot move to other regions. They are permanently scared always exercising caution in everything and backstabbing at the first sign of danger.

Spits.

how many German have move from germany to nigeria or southafrica ......(if not for a special business opportunity)

who go leave Ogun state for enugu to be selling yogurt and gala

southwest have the biggest regional economy in nigeria (so it is normal for immigrant to be more while there is lesser emigrant)

Roboto11:
Even Chinese people no dey go SE.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, dat serious I will rada go Maiduguri and start business rada than going IMO

CORRECTMAN78:
Aside Agbero and skull mining, una no be anything.

Shebi na for this Nigeria, Igbos go show una pepper one day. Keep banking on the Hausas. That great period, no body will come to your aid.

I laugh Igbo benefit more from.southwest than Yoruba benefit from.south east
the bitter truth is dat there are many Yoruba (including me dat doesnt have any family in southeast ).....Buh hardly is any Igbo dat doesnt have family or close relatives in southwest

Napata77:
Look at this one.

Are you aware that the Benin Empire exchanged ambassadors with Portugal as early as the 1500s?

Are you aware that Benin city was one of the greatest and most beautiful cities IN THE WORLD in medieval times?

A city of which the UK Guardian wrote that:

''With its mathematical layout and earthworks longer than the Great Wall of China, Benin City was one of the best planned cities in the world when London was a place of ‘thievery and murder’.''

''Benin City, originally known as Edo, was once the capital of a pre-colonial African empire located in what is now southern Nigeria. The Benin empire was one of the oldest and most highly developed states in west Africa, dating back to the 11th century.

The Guinness Book of Records (1974 edition) described the walls of Benin City and its surrounding kingdom as the world’s largest earthworks carried out prior to the mechanical era. According to estimates by the New Scientist’s Fred Pearce, Benin City’s walls were at one point “four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Cheops [in Egypt]”.

Situated on a plain, Benin City was enclosed by massive walls in the south and deep ditches in the north. Beyond the city walls, numerous further walls were erected that separated the surroundings of the capital into around 500 distinct villages.

Pearce writes that these walls “extended for some 16,000 km in all, in a mosaic of more than 500 interconnected settlement boundaries. They covered 6,500 sq km and were all dug by the Edo people … They took an estimated 150 million hours to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet”.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

PLEASE, DON'T JOKE WITH THE BENIN EMPIRE.

Abi you want to incur the wrath of the gods?

at the peak of Oyo empire it is bigger than the whole of southern nigeria

Napata77:
Look at this one.

Are you aware that the Benin Empire exchanged ambassadors with Portugal as early as the 1500s?

Are you aware that Benin city was one of the greatest and most beautiful cities IN THE WORLD in medieval times?

A city of which the UK Guardian wrote that:

''With its mathematical layout and earthworks longer than the Great Wall of China, Benin City was one of the best planned cities in the world when London was a place of ‘thievery and murder’.''

''Benin City, originally known as Edo, was once the capital of a pre-colonial African empire located in what is now southern Nigeria. The Benin empire was one of the oldest and most highly developed states in west Africa, dating back to the 11th century.

The Guinness Book of Records (1974 edition) described the walls of Benin City and its surrounding kingdom as the world’s largest earthworks carried out prior to the mechanical era. According to estimates by the New Scientist’s Fred Pearce, Benin City’s walls were at one point “four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Cheops [in Egypt]”.

Situated on a plain, Benin City was enclosed by massive walls in the south and deep ditches in the north. Beyond the city walls, numerous further walls were erected that separated the surroundings of the capital into around 500 distinct villages.

Pearce writes that these walls “extended for some 16,000 km in all, in a mosaic of more than 500 interconnected settlement boundaries. They covered 6,500 sq km and were all dug by the Edo people … They took an estimated 150 million hours to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet”.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

PLEASE, DON'T JOKE WITH THE BENIN EMPIRE.

Abi you want to incur the wrath of the gods?

ar we talking about beauty or walls here, we are talking about military calvary and political might

am ware dat benin kingdom was able to achieve all sort of feat Buh wen it comes to military mightand economic might benin kingdom no come.close to OYO empire

CallmeTrinity:
You be mumu

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truth is bitter......Igbo way no get history dey form bravery
for Yoruba history u can easily mention over 100 warlord easily
from emperor, to kings , to aare ona kakanfo, to bashorun to balogun , to ogboni, to baale to ajele .....just to many
(we have fought enough wars to be sensible not to ever waste 3million of our lives because of fruitless journey )

and through obasanjo, osinbanjo and tinubu victory we have master Nigerian politics, I believe we will most likely continue to be on the winning side (we learn5 our lessons from our earlier leaders lyk awolowo, akintola , abiola and other)

a tribe dat revolves and grow (not a tribe dat is destiny is being on hold because of hereditary hatred)

Thebadpolitican:
The benins forces that was stationed to help ekiti defend her self defeated the oyo invading force in ekiti during the parakpo war

If you need a written document on that let me know it was also also written by an eye witness a yoruba man who saw the war unfold in 1897

Benin dominance over the yoruba people can never be over emphasized

You happen not to read

I would urge you to do a quick search on goggle, on benin imprelism over yoruba people

you are deceiving yourself with Benin
Benin is a kingdom while Oyo is an empire (I hope you know the difference)

and it was alaafin oyo oranmiyan dat form the royal family of Benin kingdom (through one of his son)

in no tym in history does benin kingdom have a tenth of the power of Oyo kingdom ........plssss go and read more about Oyo empire and you will know being kingdom is jist lyk and outpost to oyo. empire

Thebadpolitican:
The benins forces that was stationed to help ekiti defend her self defeated the oyo invading force in ekiti during the parakpo war

If you need a written document on that let me know it was also also written by an eye witness a yoruba man who saw the war unfold in 1897

Benin dominance over the yoruba people can never be over emphasized

You happen not to read

I would urge you to do a quick search on goggle, on benin imprelism over yoruba people

throughtout the 16years civil war (in no place was being mentioned ).....not even as peacemaker or anything

d only external.effort where dat of emir of sokoto and emir of bida which also fail to end the war....na the British dat was later able to create a cease fire....after the cease fire ekiti father their troops at imesi ile while ibadan station their at ikirun


OYO empire is too powerful for a kingdom lyk benin to be interfering in their war who born monkey

a lot of mistakes in your write up nobody won the war and the war is not just 1897, it was over 16years of conflict and war
the war was so big dat the ilorin conderate join, ilesha too join
and in no instance did Benin interfere who born monkey