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GoodMuyis:
Thank You Brothers (CharlyG1, vooks, ccollins, oyeludef, muafrika, others ) AND Sisters (Anas09, others ),
Can we leave Rebecca Brown alone and concentrate on what brought us together we have victory over the Tobiahs and Sambalats why then chide among ourselves over what we persive is right or wrong why are we so soon derail by non essential at least to this thread, Nairaland is Big and free we can always discuss Rebecca Brown on another thread.

Let us be guided



If you feel a fellow brother is yet to understand what you know, its not possible to take away from him what he is persuaded of, but what you can do is to pray just like Epaphras. with just this little community we can grow into bigger experience. Experience is what we need to share


John 21:20-22 (KJV)
[20]Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? [21]Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? [22]Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.

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Lets remind ourselves what brought us together

thank you all on these words, GOD bless you sir. this is last time I will debate on Rebecca brown on this thread and its wrong of me if I should argue with vooks a friend.. thank you all and GOD bless you all once more

vooks:
ccollins,
On major flaw with Pentecostalism is elevation of experiences and spiritual gifts above doctrine. We have this funny idea that these gifts are mark of maturity and power whereas they are not. Here is a warning we all need to heed

Matthew 7:21-23 King James Version (KJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

i share his because you feel that Brown is very strong for combating demons yet she is criticized by those who have never cast a demon or something.....

The best mark of maturity in a believer is the Fruit of Holy Spirit.

Once again, I have nothing personal against Brown, in fact I read her books 14 years ago and I was at first scared and then thrilled and extremely paranoid. I moved on and sometimes back I started wondering what became of her. This is when I stumbled into these sites exposing her lies. She had some truths but could not resist the urge to embellish her tales.

Just imagine this, a woman who had never left her native state since birth till she met Brown in the early 80s claims she was a satanist for 17 years and during these she used to travel all over the world brokering arms sales with heads of states!
https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/10/07/rebecca-brown-warning-dont-bind-yourself-in-her-books-2/

of the same measure you use you judge her will GOD use for you. too, I won't be dragged into any debate of any sort.. why attack a sect.... told you that if you based your accusations on Bible ,then you should use it ask yardstick all through instead of giving us your personal opinion on certain areas like her family and she being disowned as a doctor. you even insulted her by saying she is a psycho.. don't play smart because GOD sees your heart and if you bear false witness with others who are malicious, then you are wrong.. this same spirit of God you mentioned showed that you there signs like speaking in tongues and prophesying as stated in acts of apostle.. you believe and assert whatever you want and I do not care.. what if the devil was using some people and trying hard to discredit this woman.. be consistent and stop hovering on two sides.. base solely on Bible since it is what we all agree on. but to come here and tell me some rubbish a site said is funny. I remembered how the people in Israel accused Jesus maliciously of the works of the Holy Spirit.. let's us all assume Rebecca brown is a false prophet. it is not of us to judge her.. she does and talks about things of Spirit.. if she is wrong and evil, why don't we leave the Holy Spirit to deal with. her instead of trying hard to be malicious of her.. if you checked my research in my older post on issue of judging in book of Corinthians, I talked about reasons and people in churches in Corinthians apostle paul was talking about., how does Rebecca brown come into this situation . lastly I leave you with this message below::



Jesus cures a man whom
*demons controlled
We can read about another event that happened about
this time. It shows us what some people thought about
Jesus. Men brought a man to Jesus. The man was blind
and could not speak. *Demons controlled him. Jesus
immediately cured him. Then he could both talk and
see. This *miracle astonished the crowds. However,
some *Pharisees said, ‘No! This man sends *demons
away by the power of Beelzebub [the devil], who is the
prince of *demons’. (Matthew 12:24)
To accuse Jesus like this is terrible. Jesus loved and
cared for everyone so much. He was very wise. He
blessed people. His *miracles helped people.
People who could make such statements were foolish
or evil. We could say that they were blind in their
*spirits. They were not able to look at Jesus and to
understand him. (There are still people like that today.)
Jesus was not angry with them – as we might be. He
answered them wisely.
Suppose that this was true! Suppose that Jesus cured
people with the help of Satan [the devil]. Or, with the
help of *demons. Then Satan would be fighting against
himself. Satan would be using his power against himself.
Satan would defeat himself. This could not happen.
The *Pharisees themselves tried to cure people who
were in the control of *demons. So, Jesus asked this
question as a reply to these *Pharisees:
· If Jesus did this with the help of *demons, how did
the *Pharisees do it?
*The sin that God will not
forgive
Jesus also said some other very strong words to them.
Matthew 12:31, 32 And so I tell you this. God can
forgive men for every *sin except one. He will not
forgive men who speak against the *Holy Spirit. God
will forgive anyone who speaks a word against the
*Son of Man [Jesus]. God will never forgive anyone
who speaks against the *Holy Spirit, now or ever.
People sin when they do not do what God wants. When
Jesus died for our *sins, it was for all kinds of *sin. We
can think about king David as an example. He took
another man’s wife and he murdered the man (1
Samuel 12). God forgave him.
These *Pharisees said that the work of Jesus by the
*Holy Spirit was really the devil's work. This is the sin
that God can never forgive. Jesus' statement should
have made these *Pharisees think! Nobody should say
that the work of God is *Satan’s work. God will forgive
anyone who is really sorry. But to say that God’s work
is *Satan’s work is a different kind of *sin. It means
that a person has decided to oppose God. That person
has chosen to be very wicked.

vooks:
I gave you a link full of this. What else do you want?

Do you want us to examine them individually?

I have read those watchtower site before. they still don't have credible evidences. some seem very malicious, funny enough, some of them seem desperate to discredit her at all cost, is there something I miss. why criticize instead of correcting someone with love and in accordance with Bible like apostle did in early times.. to educate you sir, it has always been easy to criticize or lambast than to be the victim or center of the attention.. has it come to your mind,if she really works for the devil.. why all this disparaging remarks from many who can't face truth or feel her type of Christianity is too difficult... a typical scenario of a pastor judging a prophet.. (do they both have same calling ) atleast she excercises her authority in Christ. how many Christians can confidently say they do this ,or. can say they prophesied, yet they find it a duty to criticize those who have such gift.. JUST LIKE A BROTHER WARNED HERE, YOU BETTER LEAVE THEM FOR GOD TO JUDGE.. YOU RELY ON INTERNET EVIDENCES AND YOU CONCLUDE, sorry for you sir, just imagine what you would tell GOD on judgement day as regards joining bandwagons to criticize... mind you also, there is a reason this is stated in Bible (acts 2 vrs 17).. “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and
your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions, and
your old men shall dream dreams;



also note I never read any where that Rebecca brown is forcing the teaching from GOD on anyone.. she strictly visits churches on invitation if you claim to know her well and she stated a disclaimer in her book as regards the reader yet people like you ignore this.. is God not going to use the foolish things of this world to confound the wise.. in that watchtower website, a person stated that rebecca said that GOD should strike her down if she sins again.. now if this accusations is true, am glad at least even though weird, she showed a serious sign beyond most Christians including me that Jesus us her first love and really determined not to compromise due to grace. point of correction.. just because other christians say or do things beyond your limited mind does not warrant doubt or malice.. do you know how her personal relationship is with God

vooks:
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The lie about an Internet photo is really nothing. The most toxic lies are in her books which you continue to hold as bastions of wisdom

I have given you links with sufficient proof but you choose to imagine it is not credible, or is malicious

you know you haven't said anything yet. what did she say in her book. name the book and what page. you have to be reasonable before you rush to quick conclusions.... say 1 thing true against her that I can see and I give you a Bible verses on it,trust me

vooks:
Please let us not suspend using our faculties. Is this her 'real official page' or a fake?

we all have facilities God blessed us with. I don't want to argue on issue again as it is advicable to leave it on God to judge.. if you read my previous post on judgement where I quoted Bible verses with understanding of it.I gave reasons why you can't judge.. by the fruits, you know some one as stated in Bible. So far so GOOD., most of us are comfortable with what she says except if she now decides to disobey the word of God. even David respected Saul when the grace of God was no longer with Saul or even the anointing.the letter apostle Paul wrote to churches of Corinthians deals on righteousness.. can you tell me where he said we should judge one revelation or challenge ones position as regards spiritual messages.. if false, I do believe the Spirit of God will reveal it

see this excerpt I researched out:

1) The recipients (early corinthian churches) of this letter were debaucherous and
immoral. Infighting was common, and they were quick
to sue each other. They entertained false teachings
and lacked spiritual maturity.


2) Word had reached the apostle
Paul that the Christian community in Corinth had
fallen into a variety of serious moral errors. The
vibrantly pagan culture that Corinth was famous for
had crept into the church there—to the point where
there was alarmingly little that distinguished the
Christians from the non-Christians.
But Paul’s letter to the spiritually struggling Corinthian
church was not intended just to harangue them for
their failings. Paul challenged his Corinthian brothers
and sisters not just to step back from error, but to
actively cultivate holy lives in emulation of Jesus
Christ.

3) In his characteristic style, Paul
opens his letter by getting straight to the heart of the
Corinthians’ problem: misplaced priorities. He
contrasts the wisdom of the world with the wisdom of
God, asking the Corinthians—proud of their
philosophical knowledge—which type of wisdom they
ought to pursue.
From there, Paul moves on to address the specific
moral problems in the Corinthian church, including
divisiveness , sexual immorality, and litigiousness . His
words, however harsh, are always accompanied by
positive encouragement to strive for holiness; and
throughout the letter his genuine concern is evident:
“I am writing this not to shame you but to warn you
as my dear children.”
Paul’s letter wraps up with some of the most well-
known passages in the entire Bible, notably the
famous “love chapter” and an eloquent explanation of
the great hope around which Christanity revolves: the
resurrection of Jesus Christ .



ITS NOT JUST QUOTING BIBLE BUT AS ASKING GOD FOR GUIDANCE TOO AND KNOWING WHAT GOD INTENTIONS ARE AND NOT TOO SUIT SELFISH DESIRES OR PRIDE. (IF YOU CAN SHOW ME GOOD EVIDENCE FROM BIBLE WHERE AND HOW REBECCA BROWN CONFLICTS GOD'S WORD INTENTIONALLY FROM HER ACTIONS AND WORD. SHOW IT TO ME THEN I, WOULD BELIEVE INSTEAD OF JUDGING HER FROM A DISTANCE or following others who follow the crowd to persecute, do you have any revelation from God that Rebecca brown is of darkness I rest my case

vooks:
I have corrected the Flickr link. Check it now
If she is any 'smart' she must have pulled down the post from her page. If you follow her on FB, go to the relevant date and see if it is there.
She plucks a photo from the Internet and claims her husband took it. Lies. Looks like she can't help herself.

Their lives are full of bizarre and outrageous 'revelations' and I wonder how much of that is bunk


Kindly counsel us on what is 'credible' enough for your ears

Bro, lol... I have been on her official page and I remember when she complained that her official page was hacked into. if you check properly. most contents were deleted since 2012 by some hacks. get your facts straight Bro. also that pic is not on her real official page, I. have checked very well

vooks:
Rebecca Brown is quite fond of lying. Check;
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Official-Rebecca-Brown-Page/131827026858516
https://www.propheticexplorer.com/images/rebecca_brown.jpg

14th December 2013 is when David, Rebecca Brown's husband took the photo. But is this so?
The photo has been all over Internet since 2008. It can be traced to this guy on Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/10922353@N03/6086519585
Try and Google the image

the links you posted are. not credible and show nothing.. the links don't even work

muafrika:
Appreciated, Ccollins,

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?...

I still think it applies in this case though. This is a small matter concerning misleading information from some members of our great congregation, we should sit down and judge amongst ourselves...Every word, prophecy, character, and not just her but everybody else, because everything worthwhile has a counterfeit.

this nature of judging deals basically with unrighteousness, my friends

NOTE: Apostle Paul in his messages to the early chu corrected them in the spirit. you have to know what God word is saying and interpret it correctly .listen,Rebecca is not in your congregation that you should judge her and neither do you have strong evidence against her as to knowing her well. also in gifts of Spirit in 1 Corinthians 12,deliverance can be said to fall under miracle and faith but all still from same SPIRIT in Body of Christ.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13 ESV / 149 helpful votes
For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not
those inside the church whom you are to judge? God
judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from
among you.”


Romans 16:17-18 ESV / 89 helpful votes
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who
cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the
doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For
such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their
own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they
deceive the hearts of the naive.
I still one sin or wrong this woman did to justify this persecution.. leave her to God to judge, read and think about this verse

1 Corinthians 5:1-13 ESV / 33 helpful votes
It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality
among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even
among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you
are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him
who has done this be removed from among you. For
though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if
present, I have already pronounced judgment on the
one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in
the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present,
with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this
man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his
spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. ...

vooks:
Rebecca Brown's Unbroken Curses
http://highlyanointed.weebly.com/uploads/4/1/5/2/41522075/9780883683729.pdf

And an excellent review/rebuttal here titled the Curse of Curse Theology
http://www.watchthetower.net/curse.html

this sites you quote are also written by people like you..you have to check and know what God is telling you concerning a circumstance and not websites from any. person

I think a lot of people don’t understand what real romance is. Anyone can buy flowers, candy and jewelry. The truly romantic things in life are those little things you do every day to show you care, and that you’re thinking of them. It’s going out of your way to make them happy. The way you hold her hand when you know she’s scared, or you save the last piece of cake for him. The random text or call in the middle of the day, just to say “I love you” or “I miss you”. The way he stops to kiss you when he passes by. It’s dedicating her favorite song to her, and letting her eat your fries; telling her she’s beautiful. It’s putting your favorite show on pause so she can tell you about her day, and laughing at his jokes, even the really lame ones. It’s slow dancing in the kitchen and kissing in the rain. Romance isn’t about buying, it’s about giving. True romance is in gestures.

CHRISTALLITE:
Today is 30th November,please help me out!

you could as well post your photo and Facebook name so people can get more approval and trust from you. I do believe they are caring people on nairaland here but they hate scams and you could be lying.. also add your school website details too

muafrika:
[qoute]CharlyG1: 12:49am
If anyone on this thread likes, let them continue to say negative things about other people of God.
I only pity what might befall anyone who does so.

Don't worry about us. We are in good hands.

1 Corinthians 2:15 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Romans 14:13 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

1 Corinthians 5:12 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?


1 Corinthians 5:13 |
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

How will we put away the evil if we are afraid to point the out?

1 Corinthians 6:2 |
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?


1 Corinthians 6:3 |
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

1 Corinthians 10:15 |
I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say

loving this thread alot, God bless you all brothers and sisters, am learning alot from you guys,i must confess.. i just need to improve my christian lifestyle. @muafrika, do not go into quick summary of Bible verses for instance 1 Corinthians chapter6 stated from the beginning of the chapter, the intent of apostle Paul which was on not being partakers of earthly judging since God in future would give an eternal reward of privilege as saints to judge this present world after its end. **read the whole chapter to have a better understanding, thank you very much

vooks:
You should major in what scriptures major and minor on what scriptures minor. Sadly the reality is true in your life; a lifestyle of 'warfare' and endless tales and accounts of demons and Satan

do not misquote or judge accuse some one wrongly, can you show me where my lifestyle reflect such tales

God who sees men hearts knows what is best for tb Joshua whether good or evil choice

I do agree Christians should focus on heaven and on God because it was over emphasis on Bible.. talking on kingdom of darkness was not emphasized on but it was stated in bible. Genesis 6:1-22 ESV / 4 helpful votes

When man began to multiply on the face of the land
and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw
that the daughters of man were attractive. And they
took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said,
“My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh:
his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the
earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons
of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore
children to them. These were the mighty men who were
of old, the men of renown. The Lord saw that the
wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that
every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only
evil continually. ...
Revelation 16:14 ESV / 3 helpful votes
For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go
abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble
them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty.

Revelation 3:17-22 ESV / 5 helpful votes For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your unclothedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Joshua 1:9 ESV / 103 helpful votes Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.”

Romans 8:38-39 ESV / 81 helpful votes For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

the Bible gives different account on warfare and enemies bit we are to fear only God Almighty


Psalm 27:1-3 ESV / 14 helpful votes
Of David. The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom
shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life; of
whom shall I be afraid? When evildoers assail me to eat
up my flesh, my adversaries and foes, it is they who
stumble and fall. Though an army encamp against me,
my heart shall not fear; though war arise against me,
yet I will be confident.


John 14:27 ESV / 11 helpful votes
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as
the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be
troubled, neither let them be afraid.


Habakkuk 3:16 ESV / 10 helpful votes
I hear, and my body trembles; my lips quiver at the
sound; rottenness enters into my bones; my legs
tremble beneath me. Yet I will quietly wait for the day
of trouble to come upon people who invade us.

Job 41 New International Version (NIV)
Footnotes:
a. Job 41:1 In Hebrew texts 41:1-8 is numbered 40:25-32,
and 41:9-34 is numbered 41:1-26.
b. Job 41:13 Septuagint; Hebrew double bridle
c. Job 41:15 Or Its pride is its
“Can you pull in Leviathan with a fishhook 41 [a ]
or tie down its tongue with a rope?
Can you put a cord through its nose 2
or pierce its jaw with a hook?
Will it keep begging you for mercy? 3
Will it speak to you with gentle words?
Will it make an agreement with you 4
for you to take it as your slave for life?
Can you make a pet of it like a bird 5
or put it on a leash for the young women in your
house?
Will traders barter for it? 6 Will they divide it up among the merchants?
Can you fill its hide with harpoons 7 or its head with fishing spears?
If you lay a hand on it, 8 you will remember the struggle and never do it
again!
Any hope of subduing it is false; 9
the mere sight of it is overpowering.
No one is fierce enough to rouse it. 10
Who then is able to stand against me?
Who has a claim against me that I must pay? 11
Everything under heaven belongs to me.
“I will not fail to speak of Leviathan’s limbs, 12 its strength and its graceful form.
Who can strip off its outer coat? 13 Who can penetrate its double coat of armor ? [b ]
Who dares open the doors of its mouth, 14 ringed about with fearsome teeth?
Its back has rows of shields 15 [ c]
tightly sealed together;
each is so close to the next 16 that no air can pass between.
They are joined fast to one another; 17 they cling together and cannot be parted.
Its snorting throws out flashes of light; 18 its eyes are like the rays of dawn.
Flames stream from its mouth; 19 sparks of fire shoot out.
Smoke pours from its nostrils 20 as from a boiling pot over burning reeds.
Its breath sets coals ablaze, 21 and flames dart from its mouth.
Strength resides in its neck; 22 dismay goes before it.
The folds of its flesh are tightly joined; 23 they are firm and immovable.
Its chest is hard as rock, 24 hard as a lower millstone.
When it rises up, the mighty are terrified; 25 they retreat before its thrashing.
The sword that reaches it has no effect, 26 nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.
Iron it treats like straw 27 and bronze like rotten wood.
Arrows do not make it flee; 28 slingstones are like chaff to it.
A club seems to it but a piece of straw; 29 it laughs at the rattling of the lance.
Its undersides are jagged potsherds, 30 leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.
It makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron 31 and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.
It leaves a glistening wake behind it; 32 one would think the deep had white hair.
Nothing on earth is its equal— 33 a creature without fear.
It looks down on all that are haughty; 34 it is king over all that are proud.”

God’s Spirit Poured Out
“And it shall come to pass afterward 28
That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your old men shall dream dreams,
Your young men shall see visions.
And also on My menservants and on My maidservants 29 I will pour out My Spirit in those days.
“And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the
earth: 30
Blood and fire and pillars of smoke.
The sun shall be turned into darkness, 31
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the
LORD.
And it shall come to pass 32
That whoever calls on the name of the LORD
Shall be saved.
For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be
deliverance,
As the LORD has said,
Among the remnant whom the LORD calls.


who can. remember the mysteries that God revealed to Job in his time of trial. many wonders and signs will happen in this end times that will mark those of God .can't say much

Anas09:
Am confused here Bro Charles.
Are you saying that, a man/woman who starts a cult using the Bible but twisting its content to decieve people shd be left alone? Sir, a man, using the name of God is feeding Children of God with life serpents, his sperms as holy milk. IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, you mean if someone with scriptural knowledge comes out to say what the man is doing is not right, its wrong?
My Brother charles, we are not all equal, some people depend on others for a whole lot. You, for e.g you have a gift that I don't have, others have but satan has taken advantage of their ignorance and is Using them for himself. Will you say what you r doing here (exposing the antics of satan) is wrong? because in a way, that's what u r saying here.
I never even heard abt Rebecca Brown till now. Now I have heard of her, when reading her books, I'll compare scriptures.
If she lied, then the lies must be exposed. Who is the father of lies?

If you are interested in the souls Christ came to die for, (which am sure you are) you'll do what Jesus did, point to them the right way.
Pls, why did Jesus rebuke the Pharisees again and again? Shd we say Jesus judged the Pharisees?
Didn't the Bible say, Test all spirits and see if they are of the Lord? How do we test spirit? Is it not by comparing scriptures and aligning our actions by the scriptures. If she lied then she's a liar. No one lies mistakingly, especiall when those lies are printed. Its pre-meditated
I say expose Satan and his antics, it doesn't matter the agent he is using. If its a lie expose it. So many will learn and be saved.
I was on Merlins Thread (How and Why he became I a Satanist) sometime ago. I learned something following their discussions. Satan, according to them is glad when "Christians" know more and talk more abt him than their God. Why? Because, they (Christians) will live in fear of what they know he can do to them. Remember satan and his agents lie and exergerate alot. When u talk more of Satan, you magnify him in the ears of your listeners. Look, am not saying Rebecca is Satan's agent or something like that. But Jesus said to check out the fruits

Someone opened a thread here and asked why satan or Lucifer was rarely mentioned in the Bible? Have you thought about that? Jesus Warned Us in Revelations not to delve into the deep things of satan. Preach the Gospel of Christ. Liberate men by the word of God. Change and renew their mindsets. The battle is more within than its without. If we teach believers to live a holy life, satan authomatically gets locked out. But instead the end time Pastors spend somuch time creating fear, resentment, bitterness and unforgiveness in the minds of the children Christ died for, by buliding a throne for satan in their minds. The same thing Jesus preached against. Jesus liberated man from fear, now Satan disguised as pastors is robbing men back into hell with those teachings. These preachers turn everybody to an enemy. The Bible says honour ur mother and Father, the pastors says, they must die the dead because they wictches. The Bible says love ur neighbour as urself, the pastors says, they are the neighbourhood witches kill them. The Bible forgive if not ur father in heaven will not forgive you, the pastor says, suffer not a witch to live, how can u forgive someone who wants to kill you? Its happening everywhere. Everytime u hear this Marine ocult pastors, its only satan they talk abt, and you'd think they r preachimg the gospel because they r holding a Bible? Why not check their motive?

I was so fixated with Apostle Johnson Suleman when I first met him. Anytime he came to town, no matter how far the venue was from me, I'll go, then I realised that the scriptures were indeed religated in his rants, I won't call them teachings (and I happen to live by the word) he will open it, quote a scripture which I know is taken out of context and then drop the Bible entirely, and start jumping around, sweating and exciting people. For the 1 or 2hrs its all abt what satan can do or has done. Ok, but wht abt what Jesus can do and is doing or has done to satan already, why are we not talking about that, so that these people who are too lazy to read the Bible for themselves will also know? Its a ploy. A very subtile one, to cage people in fear.

Satan was here when Jesus was here, Jesus saw him everyday, confronted him everday, but never based his teachings on Satan, yet He came to set people free from this same satan. Instead He seemingly ignored satan.

The little I have read about this Rebecca Brown's Character from the link posted here, she's cunningly setting people up for fear. Jesus didn't send anyone that errant.

Collins said, she quotes the scriptures freely. Very funny. Do you know that in the logo or emblem of the ogboni cult, its a bible verse that's quoted there? (Ezekiel 29, can't remember the verse now) The day I saw it, I was shocked at how far satan can go to decieve people.
Its funny how even till today believers still think satan can't handle the bible or use it. Wow, O. O. Obu uses the Bible yet attributes all the characteristics of God to himself. Satan quoted the scriptures freely to Jesus.
My point is, if you see a sheep going astray or is being let astray, if you stand and do nothing abt it, then you are not working for christ. Why did he have to come and die for those souls? He shd ve just stood by and say, "let's wait for judgement day when everything will be made clear".

if we can decipher, you will know those books addresses those still in bondage or a demonic oppression to believe and know they are capable of getting delivered by power of Jesus. for example, the book called He came to set the. captives free. this book deals with those in captivity and ignorant I'n darkness.. if you, are in light and not under any captivity of satan., why then criticize her books if they are not meant for you exactly

Jibsonified:
So far so good all I'm seeing is Missionary schools not solely government owned schools. OP should please go and snap schools at Awka south, the capital for a start. Schools like Emeka Aghasili Sec. School, Federal Government College Nise, Keneth Dike Sec. School Awka South, Lake City Sec. School. And so on... I bet you their deplorable condition is appalling.

It's just sad when u shine spotlight on schools that are wholly or partially controlled by Churches, of course they will look like what you posted, which same all over the country. Give commendation to who deserves it.

lol, I agree to this, some bad guys I knew in anambra then went to schools that were deplorable and they were govt owned

The most funny thing about the story is when she talks about shaking her buttocks vigorously hehehe. fell off my chair there

its true talk now.. women could be very wicked to men but then it depends on who started it first

TESTIMONIES FROM POSITIVE CHRISTIANS ON HER BOOK AS FOLLOWS::::::
Laurie Ishii rated a book over 6 years ago He Came to Set the Captives Free by Rebecca Brown Although I cannot agree with every single thing in this book... I really enjoyed reading it. For one thing - because I have come out of DARKNESS (heroin addict/prostitute) - I have been exposed to the demonic/spiritual warfare to a pretty great degree. I have worked with a woman and some of her family members that have recently come out of YEARS of SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse). I read the Rebecca Brown book years prior to meeting this woman and my husband has never read it. When this woman came to live with us, crazy things began happening... knocking on the door, no one being there when we answered, computer running by itself, changing fonts from microscopic to HUGE... CD, DVD, TV etc. not working whenever we wanted to watch or listen to something like worship... these may sound like minor inconveniences (and they were/are) but they happened so frequently once this woman started living with us that it's too much to be a coincidence. I will not share some of the personal and private things that this woman has had to go through even while she's been here - in spite of finally escaping physically from where she lived (in the same state as Elaine as a matter of fact). She had continued to be tormented emotionally, spiritually and even physically (my husband said that unless he saw it with his own eyes he wouldn't believe it) but the Lord Jesus is so faithful and because she has made Him her LORD and Savior, He is doing amazing things in this woman's life!!! We have been so blessed to see, over and over - Jesus show up and overcome the enemy. Rebecca Brown's book has been so useful and honestly - when she began living with us - I started reading the book again because I felt like every thing in the book was/is what we were/are living on a daily basis. I definitely BELIEVE that much of the experience Rebecca and Elaine experienced was/is REAL - unfortunately the witches astral projecting is real and DOES happen... we have found that when this happens (when we rebuke demons in Jesus' Name and they don't leave - demons may take a bit if they are a principality but eventually, they MUST leave - while human spirits are much more stubborn) we ask Jesus to break their silver cord and sever their head from their body (if they wont repent) and they leave. I also believe that there ARE Satanists who pretend to be good, moral, upstanding people or even more so Christian... so that it will be very difficult for anyone to believe it if they are accused of being involved in the occult. All I can say, is don't write the things in Rebecca's book as too extreme to be true. I think that one of Satan's biggest deceptions is to get people to believe that things like this don't happen. If anyone (like myself) have gone to the depths of hell before Jesus came and pulled you out - you KNOW that given the right circumstance, we humans are capable of ANYTHING; capable of doing the sickest, most vile, demented crimes against other human beings... especially if a person does not have a relationship with Jesus, and even more so, if the person considers Satan their god. Regardless, Jesus is Lord, He is on the throne and "Our brothers conquered him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they did not cling to their lives even in the face of death." Rev.12:11

oyeludef:
There is a clear cut difference btw avoiding error and persecuting a man of God.no where in d scripture did Jesus or His apostles seek for d dark knowlege of a delivered convert. Lets not allow our curiosity make us grieve d Holy Spirit. In dat day some will say didnt we cast out devils in your name? Christ will say i know you not ye workers of iniquity. No one knows the ways of God but the Spirit of God. Even angels learn about God by watching God's dealing with d church(eph3:10). The Holy Spirit has the sole responsibility to guide His church into all truth. I will also advise us to stick with d 66 books of d bible. Angels were so common during d early church days in d book of Acts but nowhere did we see the church socializing wit dem nd asking questions. D Holy Spirit doesnt just enable u speak in tongues He fellowships wit us. How was satan able to deceive 1/3 of angels? Satan's subjects r captives to his will nd so he keeps them dat way by making dem believe lies. These lies r wat witches know and dey need to unlearn it not us learning from dem. Satan is a liar and d father of it. Where the Holy Spirit is there is liberty cos who Christ sets free is free indeed. Stick with the Holy Spirit and His inspired word. Shalom

good point sir but still depends on circumstances, the book; he came to set the captives free was not to learn about dark arts but about testimony of one involved in occultism before and that's the old man.. it's not to say Rebecca and Elaine who was delivered are obsessed about it and go every day preaching about it in churches... I told you people who apostle paul delivered in bible from witchcraft, did they not have a past in it before they are called to repentance by God. I have examined Rebecca brown teachings even apart from her books, she emphasizes on holiness, and uses the Bible alot in her preachings. if she is a fraud as she is mocked, is she supposed to be encouraging Christians to have a fellowship with Holy Spirit and stop meeting her to ask God what he says concerning there life and all sundry. we need to be careful of accusing people, you know appolon in Bible was magnificent in Bible but didn't acknowledge or was ignorant of the power there of which the disciples corrected him that Jesus is Christ. rebecca never compromises on God word if you know her very well and she doesn't preach prosperity sermons like most end- time churches are doing

Helgreenluv:
Mr common sense. I hail o! Why won't u support it? When u are looking for a desperate girl to deceive. Ladies pls be careful. Online dating involves so many risk and most of the guys if not all are wolves. May God protect us all but I won't be a victim because I can never be this desperate no matter what

you are being funny now, not every one seeks a relationship online. some of us seek for just good friends and besides why are you jealous of other girls because I know this is common problem among women, if you think you an angel. why not preach and warn the oloshos in your street or area, instead of coming here to pretend

Helgreenluv:
Some girls sha! Must you go about advertising yourself like a LovePeddler? Come on, learn to have some dignity cos this only makes you cheap and desperate!

pray for common sense, does it mean that men are right to be cheap to drop contact, but women are not supposed to

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oyeludef:
d gift of discernment of spirits enables you to see spirits (angels included) My fiancee has dis gift and i had to teach her from scriptures dat ghosts are demons disguised to deceive. I am not against d gifts of. the Spirit but emphasis on demons

thank you sir but she clearly showed in her book it was testimony of woman held captive in witchcraft.. didn't she talk about Jesus and Angels too. and there were actually alot of satanic rituals in. indiana when she stayed there as a doctor. was she also wrong to have exposed the evils done in state where she lived and how those satanist loathed Christians in her state and killed them secretly. alot of evil things happen you are ignorant but then you exercise your power in Christ. Jesus when you are not. do they write physically on a person if he is evil or not? No. how did apostle Paul know about bar-Jesus if he didn't see it spiritually Acts 13:6-17. thanks for all and God bless you all

oyeludef:
Jesus said "come onto me all ye that laboured and heavy laden and i will give you rest". If we still get attacks as sinners nd unbelievers do, is Jesus Christ dead in vain? We must know our position in Christ as His church. We now occupy a position of authority. Christ is d Head and we are His body. Wen we cast out a demon in the name of Jesus, Jesus takes over and wateva manifestation that follows isn't wat is important but d fact dat d demons leave.
Concerning reading or listening to testimonies of people who claim to be or av been in d occult, again lets look at the Bible Jesus cast out seven demons from mary who was obviously possessed nd it was glaring to all. Did Jesus make her an authority by asking her about d Demonic realms for His disciples to take note? Instead, she was always sitted at His feet to hear the word of God. Dis is important because devil is a liar and father of lies and so those in d occult are often fed with lies from the pit of hell. An individual dat just underwent deliverance needs to unlearn wat dey know and learn from Christ. David playing of harp only gave king saul temporary deliverance but Jesus Christ brought d power to deliver to d church. Read through out the gospels and see how Jesus dealt with evil spirits. His disciples followed his footsteps and we should also learn from that. Wen we preach the gospel, signs and wonders follow. Wen you spend all ur time knowing and fighting the already defeated devil, wen will you start knowing God.?

was there any place she faltered in her deliverance ministry, did she ever say she could not exercise her authority in Christ Jesus over evil spirits please don't add words or calumny of false rumors on a woman who is pure at heart and only want to worship God. as far as she had biblical backings in her books of her testimony and other many. things she did then we should even take her more seriously. you talk about power in Christ but let's be honest here, how many christians in all these modern churches cast out devils or can really say they fellowship with Holy Spirit as God expects and is in Bible. yet all they do is depend on a man of God and read Bible all day, you have to be spiritually minded and quench not the Spirit, and yes people in deliverance ministry and those who discern highly do see demons so how do you explain this, is it also heresies? Happy Sunday sir

I said, "Is not the gift of prophecy real?" He said, "Yes. It is the true prophets of old that set the example by prophesying correction and destruction through God's judgment, calling the people to repentance. Most of the prophets today prophesy peace, prosperity and good times. We will see which one will come to pass." Soberly he continued, "Today the majority of the prophets prophesy how wealthy people are going to be, they prophesy only fame and wealth and good times and blessing, never any of the hardships and suffering and the realities of life. They prophesy that everyone will have a great ministry, a mega ministry; they despise small ministries. The prophets today never see sin in anyone's life, so they never tell anyone to repent. Some of the prophets prophesied incorrectly that Y2K was going to be a disaster, yet completely missed 9/11/02. The prophets have been prophesying for over 40 years now that the rapture is coming within just a few days." I asked the angel, "what do you mean?" "He said, there was a famous prophet in Arizona who prophesied that the end was coming on a specific day, many Christians sold their property and moved there. Then there were the prophets prophesying the Lord's coming on Rosha Honna, 1988. Many more fell into the trap of believing them. When He was here on earth, Jesus made it very clear that no man would know the day of His return. Today, no one is considering that God could delay His return for many years. The Christians have not built for the future, only for the present. The prophet Joseph prophesied the 7 year drought, and people prepared." I asked him if more disaster was coming to America. He said, "Yes. I will show you. But you cannot write about it yet" I said, "then what am I supposed to do?" He said, "look and listen. Most pastors today just want to build a name and a kingdom for themselves. They want to be on TV. They want to have radio stations. Books upon books are being written on how great life is. Books that make people feel good. Few are teaching God's people the truth. The pastors are not teaching God's people how to discern between good and evil. The church is not taking a stand against sin, instead they are compromising. Most of the churches are not even teaching their people how to fight spiritual warfare." I said, "But people are praising and worshiping God." He said, "God's not even listening to them. He doesn't want to hear their praises when they are only edifying their flesh. Remember what God said through the prophet Amos? "I hate, I despise your feast days, And I do not savor your sacred assemblies. Though you offer Me burnt offerings and your grain offerings, I will not accept them, Nor will I regard your fattened peace offerings. Take away from Me the noise of your songs, For I will not hear the melody of your stringed instruments. But let justice run down like water, And righteousness like a mighty stream." Amos 5:21-24 He continued, "The church wants to put on programs of entertainment, not teaching. Even the pastors and prophets are becoming showmen and actors." Once again the angel turned to look at me with a very sober expression. "Even the ministers name their ministries after themselves, not after God. It becomes man's ministry, not God's. The church doesn't care about the lost or the hurting. I have been to many churches, visiting them in disguise as a physical person, as someone in need, and was turned away. Jesus Himself has visited many churches, in the physical, in disguise as someone in need, and was turned away. I know of an angel sent by God to visit churches posing as someone wealthy. He was always welcomed with open arms, only for his money. During the 60s and 70s God sent a revival to the youth called the "Jesus Movement." It was rejected by the main line churches as a move of satan." Still looking at me with this solemn and sorrowful expression on his face, he said, "Do you not know that the pastors, God's called leaders, do not run the churches today? The church board does! Some denominations put out lesson plans so that the pastors are all preaching the same message on any given Sunday instead of following the Holy Spirit, and His call to their particular area's needs. In many places the demons laugh when the Christians declare that they have torn strongholds down, completely overlooking the continued presence of bars, prostitutes, gays, abortion clinics, drug pushers and users." He swept his arm over the whole U.S. in one gesture saying, "Look at the pastors who are sexually sinning against their wives. Look at the elders, deacons and board members who are actively in adultery and stealing from the church offerings, and participating in many other sins. Yet they call themselves Christian leaders!" As he swept his arm over the U.S., I got to see the fast rising homosexual movement in America. He said, "Look, this is what the church is compromising with! Now they are even claiming to ordain so called Christian pastors who are homosexual. They completely ignore God's word that proclaims homosexuality as an abomination to God!" I got to see the innocent blood crying out from the abortions and ascending to the throne room of God from the lost babies aborted here on earth. In some cases, I even saw it come from people within the churches. I also saw the incredible rise in crime and violence especially among the youth and children. Then I saw Christ overlooking the whole earth, standing with His arms outstretched. His hands were still dripping with blood. The Blood of redemption, the Blood of salvation. But it was being turned back by the flesh, by unrepentant people deep in sin, deep in hatred and bitterness. Many of these were within the walls of the church. I heard Jesus say, "Revival will come when man learns to repent and stop listening to satan." Jesus was also saying, "Father hold Thy wrath, hold They wrath, for just a little while longer!" I did not get to see the look on Jesus' face, but I could tell by what the angel was doing that it was very sad. That He was weeping over this planet that He had died for, looking down at the putrid sin that man was committing on this earth. I remember the angel saying, "The abominations spoken of in the book of Daniel are about to be completed in America. They are killing children, and legalizing homosexuality. He said that when both were fully legalized by the Congress of America through the laws passed, that then the judgment of God will descent upon first the church, and then America. (1 Peter 4:17) Then the angel also told me something astonishing. He said, "One of the greatest stumbling blocks within the Church is the complete lack of fear of God and the teaching of a cheap grace. Few there are who have any fear of the loss of their salvation through continued willful sin. They believe they can continuously live in premeditated sin and still be forgiven and go to heaven. they have no fear of God's chastisement on their lives. Indeed, when trouble comes into their life, not once do they ever think about the fact that it may be the result of their own actions." The angel showed me how, over the next few months and years, entertainment would become the parents to children through the computer games and social media. He showed me how the children would become totally possessed by these games. He said, "Everything will be acceptable. Blasphemous and ungodly things will take place in the churches from the pulpits, even pornography." He told me that there is a huge epidemic of pornography addiction within the church, even amongst the top leadership. As the angel brought me back home, he said, "The prayers of the people 100 years ago were far greater than the prayers of the people today. People back then were willing to spend large amounts of time on their knees seeking out God. Even the outlaws of that day believed there was a God. The very foundation of our education here in America was based on the Bible. children were taught from the Bible to read and write. The very protection of the children in any given school resulted from the saying of the "Lord's Prayer" daily. The very judicial system of America is based on the Bible but has now turned away from God. All of God's Word has been removed from the schools, and is fast being removed from the courts by activist judges. Most of the prayers of God's people today are completely self-centered, and most people are unable to concentrate in prayer for more than a few seconds at a time. This is because they have been raised in front of the fast action and constantly shifting scenes on their TV and movie screens. This inability to concentrate is a huge hindrance in their relationship with God. I asked the angel about the coming disaster in America. Once again we stopped and he said,"America has not seen the destruction that God has chosen for her. The people cannot imagine what the wrath of God is really like. How His anger against their sin is so fierce. In fact, God cannot even look at the planet earth, because if He did so, He would have to pour out His judgment and wrath NOW. Jesus is standing and interceding for the planet. Jesus is the one looking at all that is happening." I said, "Is judgment coming?" He said, "It is written!" I said, "Will the wrath be terrible?" He said, "Sodom and Gomorrah were mild compared to what is coming." Once again I said, "How can it be changed? How can we prevent this disaster from happening?" Then I heard a voice from heaven. I knew it was God's voice. He thundered, "IF MY PEOPLE WILL HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS, THEN I WILL HEAR FROM HEAVEN. IF THEY WILL STOP SEEKING ENTERTAINMENT AND START SEEKING ME, IF THEY WILL TURN OFF THEIR PROGRAMS AND TURN TO ME, AND INVITE ME BACK INTO THEIR LIVES, IF THEY WILL BRING CORRECT TEACHING BACK TO THE PEOPLE, IF THEY WILL START LISTENING TO MY VOICE AND NOT THE VOICE OF MEN THEN I WOULD NOT POUR MY WRATH OUT."