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esonuu:
Dat gul is stil a minor,she knws nothing abt love/life,she can accept ur frnd nw cos of one silly reason,e.g "i like d way he laughs,he speaks gud english,hes handsome,he has money e.t.c BUT the moment she gets to the age of 23,24,25(wen her flower fully blossoms),her choices wil begin to change,she myt nt fancy ur frnd or his kinda lyf again cos shes grown into a woman and by then ur frnd wil start saying tins like "women are ungrateful,after all dis yrs,tym resources,emotions e.t.c,..only 2 out of hundred ladies wil become full grown adults and stil stick to the choices they made as a teenager in terms of relationship.tel ur frnd nt to dig his own grave by himsef cos the hrtbrk dis gul wil give him in future,he myt nt survive it

did I hear you say 23,24 ,25 at that age.. you will regret marrying such women because her innocence has disappeared then and are so dumb not to know most girls at that age already have many boyfriends before and are defiled already.. what you say is very disgusting

quiinnBee:
the legal age in nigeria and most country is 18.which makes her a minor.if you live in the uk like your profile denotes you should know all this.

are you this retarded,, 18 is basic year for adult which is not even accepted in some countries.. 16 years is legitimate age for consensual sex in Nigeria. okay I am dating a 16 year old currently, report and carry me to court. nonsense

ericdry:
Good Morning NL Fam!

I will pay 60k for delivery before payment,, show me the pictures with your hand too

vooks:
This is a wise saying

thanks oo bro vooks,, means God does not abandon a sinning Christian

IBBG:
personally I don't think is right to be discussing such with a little girl of that age no matter how we try to justify and rationalise it. deep down we know the truth.
let me narrate my own story which is similar to this.
I once had a girl I was crushing on and who was also crushing on me within that age bracket. I was 21yrs then and she was sixteen. I sought counsel with my pals then as to what to do since I considered her still very young for such. most of my pals kept telling me to date her that there is nothing wrong. and if i delay she might change her mind and somebody else will end up dating her and I will lose her.
though I luved her very much then, but I couldn't bring myself to do such because I had my set values and beliefs that I vowed to myself never to flaunt no matter what it costs me which are
1)I will never have dealings with any under age girl
2)I will only treat girls the way I want my younger sisters to be treated by guys
3)I can't stand my thoughts or conscience blaming me constantly of corrupting an innocent underage girl
4)relationship is dynamic. you can't tell with absolute accuracy what might happen next in a relationship. some of the things you said you won't do in a relationship you see yourself one day doing them. what will be the consequence of such if it eventually happens with this girl.
5)I did not want to soil my reputation. I had already built a reputation of being a very decent and reponsible person such that some parents in my neighbourhood were using me as an example to their sons on how a good son should behave whenever they were correcting their erring sons.
I ended up settling for being just nice and normal frnds with her, until when she matures, then I can really ask her out. she actually got to 18 and was already in the university by then, I tried wooing her, she turned me down insinuating the feelings she had were no longer there.
l moved on with no regrets, rather I was full of pride and high self esteem applauding myself for being able to stand firm, sticking to my values and beliefs irrespective of some of my frnd's advice and pressure then.
To me the end result of succeeding or failing in wooing her didn't matter, but the process made me a better person because I was able to develop discipline by sticking to my values and philosophy irrespective of the fact that it may cost me loosing her.

she is not underage,this depends on purpose of relationship. are you having her for sake of sex..

a girl is free to have what ever
relationship she wants and desires to experience. she is
free @ 16 as far as it is consensual.. what's problem
with some ladies with this their "I over too care "
attitude.. free her,let the youthful exuberance ,energy
and outflow of emotions and expression be given to
her. it's a free world, hypocrite.. many do fornication
and relationship in secondary school especially
boarding school with their boyfriend.. sooo madam,
better watch your mouth and stop showing out how
pretentious you are.. if she wants to hide her romance
life secretly from you. I bet you can do nothing about
it.. so stop this noise. as a matter of fact, check sexual
offenders act and Nigerian criminal laws relating to sex
it states clearly 16 yrs is legal age for consensual carnal
knowledge.. how much more a mere relationship with a
25 year old.. it's people like you that act openly like
you gave birth to morals but then at every ones
back,act like devils... I bet if am 25 years and I asked to
nuture your sister @ 16yrs so far as it is for marriage and positive

destinedtee:
@Bro Charles :Thanks for sharing that wonderful revelation sir. The Holy Spirit is real!

During my undergraduate days, I was praying in the hostel on a particular day while my roommates were looking for the electric cooker they put in the kitchen. Someone had taken it. I was just praying on my own (not even about the cooker). These words just dropped in my heart / spirit - THE COOKER IS IN ROOM 105, SAMUEL'S ROOM but I did not tell anyone about it because I did not even know it was from God. Each room in the hostel had its number on the front door. That room 105 was a friend's room and his name is Samuel.

They eventually found the cooker in room 105 without me even telling them. It was when I got to know the cooker was found in that room that I knew what I 'heard' in my spirit after my prayers was actually from God. It was so precise.

Sometimes when I experience things like that, I tend to think in my subconscious that hearing God is big work because the voice comes in a very gentle way sometimes. There are times it comes like a thought that just flashes through the mind and it is when the stuff happens that I recall.
I believe the key issue here is SENSITIVITY... We have got to have a quiet spirit. There is need to perpetually be at REST on our inside or we miss the gentle voice of the Spirit. I have heard him on several occasions and I have missed it too due to inability to discern his voice from the thoughts that comes from my own mind / head. There are times he also speaks through dreams, visions etc.

May the Lord help us to perpetually be attuned to his voice.

exactly and even when you commit a sin no matter how distracted you are, the Spirit of God talks to you and even tells you how dangerous it. is ..I think the time before you commit a sin and immediately after. the problem is discerning between your thoughts and that of God talking ..also house we must know that it is God that tells us to pray whether things are good or not.. .my problem sometimes is that I don't listen... I am not sure but I. know long times of disobedience to Spirit of God attracts punishment to a true born-again.. please clarification is needed here because this came to my heart this morning

I will pay 60k for delivery before payment

Snoolv360:
Congrats , my grandma was handling that position b4 she died

guy, say true

smitez:
Dude u r dumb o.. 16yrs only if the other person is not above 18.. if anyone is above 18..then it's a crime..consensual or not..

Some people here are even irritating me!!

you show to be far more dumb, now tell me which law in Nigeria states that consensual sex for a 16 year old girl is only for males below 18.you must be silly to have quoted me when you have nothing reasonable to say.. you must know that adult age being 18 does not bar sex from happening below that age as. far as it's upto 16 and consensual. nonsense

Fkhalifa:
Ladies derive pleasure in using the term paedophile unnecessarily sha

my take on the issue is if the 16yrs old girl is mentally,physically and emotionally matured and ripe, then the guy can start building something positive with her, i mean a sincere love not yansh me i yansh you relationship o

I feel that is better because some of these young girl you claiming to protect have been eating or had eaten much carrots than you sisters and/or even more experienced in r.ship matters.

So who is fooling who? rather than be am oloshoing around like their sisters you d better be with a decent matured positove thinking man.

exactly

Suigeneris93:
If a worthless lowlife like u comes within two inches of my sister for marriage, she won't even look at u not to talk of considering u for a relationship. You should be ashamed of your disgusting self, anu mpama, kitikpa racha gi anya racha gi ike! Just because mature girls consider ur two inches as impotent, u wanna try it out on young girls ozu! Tufia gi!

you are a real definition of what "cheap " means. . resorting to insults when you cannot justify your stupidity or hide the truth.. in ibo land for instance, at what age did your fore-fathers not to talk more your ancestors marry.. if we reverse time. we would have cursed them and insulted them that marry below 18..madam fish brain, go and die.. I. tells you if not education beclouded with irrational positions of whitemen who sold our customs,, would this age of a thing be a debate now.. most 16 year old are more matured than some 24 yr old women ##fact, take it in. your sister can get pregnant and give birth comfortably at that age for any husband so stop that your attitude.. main thing is fear of God and money to sustain such marriage.. mind you that if your sister likes a. man who is wealthy and he agrees to sponsor her education.. #fact I repeat, you can't do anything about it!

Suigeneris93:
My life as a cradle snatcher (Episode 1)

whatever you say cannot hide the simple truth

Adaeze003:
If you're going to call someone a hypocrite, you should know the meaning of the word first. If you already do, can you tell me how I'm one?

I don't know their stories but tu face impregnated Annie and still went ahead to have other baby mamas. So... is that like a fairy tale or what?

And oh! You think because your role model banged an underage girl it's cool to do same?

Leave secondary school children alone!!!

too baaad women and their small brains.. would you ever lie to me and swear that when you were still 16 ,you never knew any boy or man either dead or alive atleast had a crush on

Suigeneris93:
Their biz not mine...in case u didn't notice I used the personal pronoun 'my' indicating that's my immediate constituency. What sugabelle or wateva she calls herself and Annie Idibia do with themselves is none of my biz. If u hv no oda word to address a lady that's minding her biz other than a hypocrite then I suggest u fill ur obviously diminishing vocabulary

rubbish , your sister is free to have what ever relationship she wants and desires to experience. she is free @ 16 as far as it is consensual.. what's problem with some ladies with this their "I over too care " attitude.. free her,let the youthful exuberance ,energy and outflow of emotions and expression be given to her. it's a free world, hypocrite.. many do fornication and relationship in secondary school especially boarding school with their boyfriend.. sooo madam, better watch your mouth and stop showing out how pretentious you are.. if she wants to hide her romance life secretly from you. I bet you can do nothing about it.. so stop this noise. as a matter of fact, check sexual offenders act and Nigerian criminal laws relating to sex
it states clearly 16 yrs is legal age for consensual carnal knowledge.. how much more a mere relationship with a 25 year old.. it's people like you that act openly like you gave birth to morals but then at every ones back,act like devils... I bet if am 25 years and I asked to nuture your sister ,, come and castrate me now.. mitcheewww

Suigeneris93:
Child abuse...can't imagine any guy dat'll have the guts to talk marriage to my 16yr old younger sister...I'll just castrate d heediot

hypocrites, what will you all then say about audu son relationship with sugabelly and also tuface and annie idibia

Adaeze003:
If you'll also say it's fine for an 18 year old boy to get married to a 60yr old woman then your post might be valid.

Forget the adult age thingy. You will not give out your 18yr old daughter to a 60yr old man will you?

Getting married at 18 is not a bad thing btw I had a friend who did that and is still happily married but let's try to keep it real.

hypocrites, what will you all then say about audu son relationship with sugabelly and also tuface and annie idibia

Let's always glorify God in Spirit, and strive towards holiness.


last three nights ago,I was teaching someone in our parlor about bible and exercising authority Jesus gave his children from book of luke 10.. the. person was misinformed to think that human instinct and nature should be applied ahead of God's word. funnily enough, the person was like you shouldn't face darkness or danger intentionally and you ought to fear traditional customs of the nights, christians should be afraid to go out at nights on certain conditions. I myself only agreed on not testing God. as I was enlightening this person.all of a sudden, I heard a mild loud bird cry close to the chairs where i sat down and I was the only who could hear it which was strange because we stay alone in a quiet and solitary compound, you can decipher and this happened at night ... my consciousness arose, I was so furious in spirit man due to fact that it distracted our discussion on spiritual warfare (a topic whose neglect has caused me alot of sorrow in time past ) ,I shouted something like any strange demonic noise,Holy Ghost.... I had not even mentioned Jesus or completed my angry authoritative statement, the noise vanished immediately. All Glory to God!!!
Do not fear any demon or monster or whatever horror or thing that the world fear. Jesus Himself said all POWERS AND AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN UNTO ME. SHALOM

no peace for the WICKED !!!!!!! each man must suffer the consequences of evil and deceitful darkness he/she brought into this world

42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

whenever I experience how wicked pretentious and ungodly this world, I talk to God ,pray and remember this verses ;
31 To the Jews who had believed him,
Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching,
you are really my disciples. 32 Then
you will know the truth, and the truth
will set you free." 33 They answered
him, "We are Abraham's descendants
and have never been slaves of anyone.
How can you say that we shall be set
free?" 34 Jesus replied, "I tell you the
truth, everyone who sins is a slave to
sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent
place in the family, but a son belongs to
it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you
free, you will be free indeed.

He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.

nonsense, she must pay back just as a male friend would have to also do

Busybody2:
Proverbs 2:1-22 ESV


My son, if you receive my words and treasure up my commandments with you, making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding; yes, if you call out for insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God...


See Sir Ccollins, finding the knowledge of God is good, too

I understand ma, I just want to calm vexed nerves in thread about what's most important in all the debate

8Charity never faileth: but whether there be
prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues,
they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall
vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that
which is in part shall be done away.

and then very importantly to ears of Christians here because the value of this chapter is underrated in many churches but I thank God for revelation of His Truth;
lastly, verse 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three;
but the greatest of these is charity.

zeongeon:
For Noah why do you decide to pick the only the word "perfect" and throw away "in his generation"

Rabbai vooks, can you walk us through this Perfect in his generation (Noah) and perfect (Job).

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man
and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Gen 6:9.

Rabbai vooks, you can't force down your opinion down the throat of people...No one is seeking to win an argument here, we are all here to learn..

Bro, I agree sir but then comment through the eyes of 1 Corinthians 13

whether you have knowledge of everything including the Bible or you gifted with all revelations and miracle power from God but do not have charity.. you are like a noisy drum in sight of God.. please brethren, I beseech you in Christ Name to be tolerant and understand to the unity of body of Christ as far as it doesn't lead to iniquity --- 1 Corinthians 13

vooks:
You are back

Job 2:3 (KJV)
And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause

Walk us through the distinction between PERFECT and UPRIGHT

bear heed to use of knowledge even of word of God but then tolerate your brethren 1 Corinthians 13

analice107:
@wealthreviewme.
I see you are quick to insult. If you noticed, this thread has gone on without insults or tension this far.
When you say 'Bible gurus' what exactly do you mean? You said they shd leave the thread and open another one. I see, you came to hear (let me borrow Vooks expression) 'Hair raising tales', without those tales having their bases from the Word of God, right?

@TJ.
I don't expect this from you. How can you of all people, talk about edification of the church outside the word of God. You said the primary purpose of this thread is to edify the church, IRRESPECTIVE OF HOW ITS DONE (?) what you mean here is that satanist can as well come in with their metaphysics and it will be okey, because without the word of Word God to check, no one will be the wiser.

@wealthreviewme. call me anything you like. but the fact remains that, you can't be any closer to God by reading testimonies of others only. What happens when visions and dreams fail?
folk like u let Christ down. When your faith is challenged, becos you don't know what the words says, you throw in the towel and run. mock, call names if you. it doesn't go skin deep.

no need to take this far, just 1 Corinthians 13

Now for a BETTER UNDERSTANDING, here is 1 Corinthians 13 in king james version:

Chapter 13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of
angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding
brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy , and
understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though
I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and
have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor ,
and though I give my body to be burned, and have not
charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth
not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her
own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all
things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be
prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues,
they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall
vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that
which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I
understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I
became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then
face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know
even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three;
but the greatest of these is charity.

Busybody2:
Good morning and God bless you Sir.


Your thread like many has said is the best to have graced Nairaland since inception so I believe people should be allowed to post without being shot down because there is no one or no medium God cannot use to reach out to us. This is like an extension of Sunday School for us just that God is using you CharlyG1 daily to satiate our appetite and yearning to know more about Him and the hope of His calling us...


Like I said earlier, because of this recent debate, I went to consult my Bible again and the revelation I got was that the other time God mentioned similar in the Bible was after He created the earth and pondered on the works of His hands and realised it was "good/perfect"...same way He was unhappy and grieved that the men He created had become full of evil then He remembered Noah a "perfect" man...and from this I was able to deduce that perfection has nothing to do with genetics but rather character...


During the discussion Ccolins raised about Rebecca's books, I was going to chip in that it was wrong to condemn her but I didn't get involved again because I read instances where she also used to condemn other Men of God...God used muafrika to bring Phillipians 1:18 to my remembrance: Phillipians 1:18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice...


Earlier on that 4C2215131 was on this thread insulting me, I could have returned fire for fire because I recently became a Christian and before I gave my life to Christ I have never ever backed down from a fight so this thread would have probably gotten locked...


But I kept quiet and ceased fire because in the midst of the 10000 words he directed my way emptily threatening brimstone and fire on my head was the quote in bold below...And although I wasn't out of line with what I said about these religion section trolls, God still used 4C2215131 despite his "different religious leaning" to pass on this poignant message and remind us all of the need to be on guard at all time because that is one modus operandi of that useless jobless satan (the plunderer and stealer of souls) the accuser of the brethren who is always constantly reminding God of our sins. God also used him to remind me of the hedge of protection around us as Christians...that's why the fight in me died down and if I could I would have reached out through the computer screen to hug 4C221 despite all the stuffs he spilled at me







CcNnamdi

very good contribution.. now he that has wisdom should read my last post and also 1 Corinthians 13.. it has said it all

I strive in my heart ,flesh, spirit man to be perfect like my heavenly Father who loves us all. God is not happy with any arguments here of which am also guilty of..

Therefore, I call on all christians on this thread to pay close attention to what God lead me to read directly from the Bible.His word concerning issues like this..because He is not an author of confusion I repeat.. obey God's word and respect all those who God has given the gifts of the Holy Spirit .Also in likewise manner those who work in vineyard of God and exhibit the fruits and call of the Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ Our Lord.. Here is the Chapter God showed me today:::::
(1 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 13 VERSES 1-13)

The Greatest Gift

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of
angels, but have not love, I have become sounding
brass or a clanging cymbal. And though I have the gift
of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all
knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could
remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor,
and though I give my body to be burned, but have
not love, it profits me nothing.
Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love
does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not
behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked,
thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but
rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all
things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies,
they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease;
whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. For
we know in part and we prophesy in part. But when
that which is perfect has come, then that which is in
part will be done away.
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood
as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a
man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a
mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in
part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the
greatest of these is love.