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Romance › Re: Lalasticlala Enjoyin' Life With His Bae(photo) by ccollins(m): 11:47am On Dec 14, 2015
lol
Politics › Re: Throwback Pic Of Wike And Wife. by ccollins(m): 8:03am On Dec 14, 2015
they looked quite decent and positive minded but now politics has made another thing out of them
Politics › Re: Photos Of Nnamdi Kanu in Court Today by ccollins(m): 7:21am On Dec 13, 2015
the end
Politics › Re: Biafran Soldiers From Training To War Front. Photos. by ccollins(m): 10:30pm On Dec 12, 2015
this is past already
Politics › Re: To Get Biafra, Forget About Biafra by ccollins(m): 10:29pm On Dec 12, 2015
oga moderator, I don't support biafra but people should have human rights for their own self determination, what do you think
Politics › Re: Nigerian Senate Set To Spend N4.7b On 120 Toyota Land Cruisers For Saraki, Other by ccollins(m): 9:50pm On Dec 12, 2015
why are this politicians making life difficult for average Nigerian more and more... Nigeria needs changes and not making things more difficult.. we will face judgment from God one day for all these deeds
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:09pm On Dec 12, 2015
because of this neglect by many christians worldwide. false love is now in vogue every where. God have mercy
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:01pm On Dec 12, 2015
please oo, @ vooks, Charles G,analice, oyedufe, busybody and co, I have a question, somethings have been bothering me in my thoughts and atimes in my spirit man as to why some Bible verses are taken sooo irrelevant or never used in church, we hear about love of God, offerings, law of moses among many others alike but a important Bible verse like this. I have never heard mention of it.. only see. it in bible. seems to most christians. it's not important ( 1 John 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)
This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid
down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives
for our brothers and sisters. If anyone has material
possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has
no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that
person)
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:34pm On Dec 12, 2015
analice107:
Hello guys. Shiloh is over, am back. our experiences from now henceforth shall be from glory to glory, in Jesus name. Amen.

About Anakims and Nephilims who were both giants.
let's look at it like this, 'All Israelites are Jews, but not all Jews are Israelites'. or the popular saying this days, that, 'All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists'
so, Nephilims were giants, but not all giants were Nephilims.
I think the confusion is in the Word 'Giant'.

some folk have concluded that every giant is a descendant of the evil seed of the Nephiplims. It doesn't make sense and that will be insulting Yahwey's intelligence, as Vooks said. Because, that will make the purpose of the flood defeated.
The purpose for which God started off to wipe off mankind in that era in the first place, was to get this evil seed out. For God again to save some of that seed in the genes of Noah's wife and Children, then later commanding them to multiply and fill this same earth, is very unreasonable.
Anyone who believes this, is implying that, Satan was evasive enough to have escaped Yahweh's notice, thus, has continued with his evil schemes. That will make God Omninothing.

The reason for which God wanted the inhabitants of Canaan, Amalek, Hittite, the Amorites, the Hivites, etc, destroyed was for their idol worship, human sacrifice, homosexuality and wickedness. Not because they were Nephilims.

And because, The Israelites will in time be influenced to indulge in the same acts of those perverts. Which we indeed see in the book of Judges 19 down to 21. The Tribe of Benjamin became as evil as the people who dwelled in that land before them. indulging in those wicked and perverted acts against their fellow Israelites.

This argument is stupid to me.
no need to raise this issue again, read my posts on this subject because you may not be aware of the explanation I posted and let's move on
.how was Shiloh
Politics › Re: Just In: Document Showing The Transfer Of $47m From CBN Loaded In 11 Suitcases by ccollins(m): 3:31pm On Dec 12, 2015
very bad
Politics › Re: JUST IN: Senator Osinakachukwu Ideozu Sacked By Court Of Appeal by ccollins(m): 10:13am On Dec 12, 2015
let justice be done
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:34am On Dec 12, 2015
talktokayoo:
Brethren God has called us to peace and love. And where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. No true son of God should and will intentionally glorify the devil. One way or the other let us all be edified.
good morning sir, we all learning from Charles but my own stance is that it should not be to propagate fear.. if his messages are not said, how will yokes be broken and people under demonic oppression as we have seen some who posted on this thread know that Jesus who charles also talks about has all power and authority.. remember its not only saints and believers that visit this thread but also diabolical people and those blinded by satan... we glorify God for Charles works through the power of God Almighty and not condemn it... read revelation 12 vrs 10-12 ,

10
“Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah.
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
They triumphed over him
11
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.

Therefore rejoice, you heavens 12 and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short.”
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:21am On Dec 12, 2015
Busybody2:
Amen in Jesus' name Sir.
have gotten your message and sent a reply
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m):
Busybody2:
Amen in Jesus' name Sir.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:40pm On Dec 11, 2015
vooks:
I agree totally.
The very first time spiritual gifts manifested, some mistook them for effects of inebriation. If you are convicted of he the Spirit, please exercise the gift. May the Lord give us wisdom in operating in His Gifts
Amen
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 8:27pm On Dec 11, 2015
vooks:
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Thank you ccollins,
You are a wise young man. Let no one despise your youth.

Concerning this verse, my points were;
1. Only genuine born again Christians can prophesy,heal and perform miracles or (spiritual gifts in short) the name of Jesus Christ
2. Sin does not automatically extinguish spiritual gift in you
3. Many believers operating in the spiritual gifts will STILL end up in hell

Among others this means operation of spiritual gifts is no measure of maturity in Christ not the quality of your relationship with Him. This is therefore a stern warning to those of us who adore gifts as an end in themselves.

Let us not be mesmerized by the Gifts to the extent of forgetting our relationship with the Giver.

It will be sad when the Gifted appeal to their Gifts only for the Giver to reject them. Imagine exercising a Gift yet the Giver does not know me
thank you brother /sir.. now let's face it this way, gifts are secondary but then your relationship with God primary also obedience.. 1 Corinthians 13 should satisfy and affirm this statements from you, hope you do because I pratice them atimes and its lead me to being outcast or stupid atimes
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 7:59pm On Dec 11, 2015
Busybody2:
Group hug EVERYONE now!!!

We are all one body in Christ and can all agree to disagree, and come back together as ONE. Even the Bible says if our enemy is hungry we should feed him, how much more we who are the salt and light of the world...We are all here to read and learn so there is bound to be crosswires sometimes but we can all still shake hands and make merry over it...I was asking CharlyG and Nnamdi earlier about the need for spiritual warfare because since I discovered the authority in the name of Jesus Christ, all i have to do is speak the word and IT IS DONE/SETTLED/FINISHED so I don't see the need to wrestle a powerless, useless entity who is already under my feet in the name of Jesus...but time constraint couldn't let me see the exchange to the end...


May God's grace continue to abound in our lives as we study to show ourselves approved in Jesus' name. And may God keep opening the eyes of our understanding and keep enlightening us in Jesus' name. And may the peace of God and joy that flows like a river permeate all over this thread and saturate it in Jesus' name, Amen.
thank you. sister in Christ.. God says this thing you know cannot be taken away from you. read luke 10 ,the last 2 verses
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:52pm On Dec 11, 2015
The Bloodlines of the Nephilim The Bible provides a specific geneology and bloodline of the Nephilim giants after the flood that can be traced back to Noah ’s own sons. What seems to be consistent with the presence of the Nephilim gene was an affinity for evil , due to their fallen angelic parentage . And among Noah ’s sons, Ham was by far the most wicked. Ham “ And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark , were Shem , and Ham, and Japheth : and Ham is the father of Canaan . ” – Genesis 9 :18 . From the first time Ham is introduced , he is described as “ the father of Canaan .” Notice none of his brothers get any similar distinction. Whenever special descriptions are included in a genealogy in Scripture it is the Bible’s way of saying something significant happened with this particular event . And the student of the Bible should search the Scriptures to find out what that event could be. In this case, it is clear that Canaan carried the Nephilim gene . This could only happen through his mother, Ham’s wife, having the Nephilim gene herself, since we know Noah in all his generations was 100 % human. If Ham were wicked and not a follower of God, the odds of him taking a wife who was a part of the Nephilim hybrid pagan culture was much higher (B & E : also note that throughout Scripture , men who fell into sin often ended up marrying wives who worshiped false gods; for example, Solomon or King Ahab ). And from what the Bible details, Ham was no follower of God. In fact, he was involved in an inappropriate incident with Noah that led to a curse : And Noah began to be an husbandman , and he planted a vineyard: And he drank of the wine , and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent . And Ham, the father of Canaan , saw the unclothedness of his father , and told his two brethren without . And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders , and went backward, and covered the unclothedness of their father ; and their faces were backward , and they saw not their father ’s unclothedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him . And he said, Cursed be Canaan ; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren . And he said , Blessed be the LORD God of Shem ; and Canaan shall be his servant . — Genesis 9 :20 -26. The details of this incident are somewhat vague but going by Scripture alone , it can be concluded that Ham, out of evil intent , looked at his father ’s unclothedness and then made it public. The Hebrew term for “without ”, chwuts , means “outside , in the street .” But the evil of this sexually immoral act is again repeated by the Lord as a general principle for all to follow: Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink , that puttest thy bottle to him , and makest him drunken also , that thou mayest look on their unclothedness! Thou art filled with shame for glory : drink thou also , and let thy foreskin be uncovered : the cup of the LORD ’s right hand shall be turned unto thee, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory . – Habukkuk 2 :15 -16. Shem and Japeth, righteous children of Noah , show a contrast as they seek to respect their father ’s dignity by not looking upon , him and carefully covering him. Ham’s sin was so severe that it resulted in his youngest son Canaan becoming the second person in the Bible record to be cursed ( the first being Cain, the wicked son of Adam and Eve ). That Ham was wicked (there is no record of him ever repenting for this sin) would make it more likely that he would marry a woman from a pagan family who would be carrying the Nephilim gene. Why Would God Allow Nephilim DNA to Make It Through the Flood ? (B & E : Special thanks to reader Rick for raising this question) . If it were not already clear, the reason why God permitted the Nephilim gene to make it on to the ark is because of human sin. We can never forget the role we play in human affairs. If humans sin, they will be judged. If they do not follow God’s ways, they invite sin and its inevitable destructive force . Ham was not a follower of God and he was judged for his sinful rebellion via his wife. As will be seen in Part 2 , the Nephilim nations after the flood are at various times used by God as judgment against the Israelites for their disobedience. We are all responsible before God. Part 2 will also review Noah and the world he was living in . There were giants walking around the Earth warring with nations, angels openly being revealed and being worshiped as gods and all sorts of supernatural activity taking place. The pre -flood world was a very unique place . Noah’ s family was well aware of this and that it’s root was satanic, hence Noah being a “ preacher of righteousness. ” Ham rejected God’s righteousness and God’s ways to forge his own. This was solely Ham’s fault. James chapter 1 outlines the process of sin in one ’s heart: Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him . Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted , when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed .Then when lust hath conceived , it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. – James 1 :12- 15. Ham was drawn by his own lusts to the pagan , sinful world . He knew the right way to live because the Bible states that Noah was a “preacher of righteousness .” Noah and his family were completely aware of the Nephilim hybridization taking place and Noah clearly made efforts to live separate from this . Despite having the most Holy man on the planet ( literally) as is his father , Ham had no faith in God. This always brings in sin to a person’ s life . We can never forget that when looking at any Biblical account . God could have certainly killed Ham’s wife or told Ham “she ’s corrupted ” but it is this author ’s thinking that Ham did not care about what God had to say because Ham was not a follower of God. Ham had a choice. And he chose to reject God. There are many examples of this in scripture. Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt and right up to the Promised Land but could not enter. Why not ? Because of his sin . King David brought the ark to Jerusalem where it was supposed to be all along but could not build the temple for it . Why not ? Sin . King Solomon had the most prosperous reign in all of Israel and yet led to the nation dividing and ultimately being conquered. Why? Sin. Sin provides the backdoor for Satan to enter and execute his next move in the chess match between he and God. Let this be a lesson to the reader: Satan is relentless in his quest to corrupt and destroy you . And if he cannot get to you , he will happily enter your life through a child or family member. Ephesians 4 states : “ That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness … Neither give place to the devil.” – Ephesians 4 :22- 27.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:50pm On Dec 11, 2015
the Bible is very clear on this,, no need to argue anymore
Nephilim Giants After The Flood
Noah Ham Shem Japheth after the flood | Noah and his family survived the flood . But the Nephilim gene came with them. “ There were giants in the earth in those days ; and also after that …” — Genesis 6 :4 The verse above makes it clear that Nephilim giants returned after the flood . Now nowhere in scripture is it again written that angels ever cohabited and /or had relations with human women after the flood . Genesis 6 was the only instance of this . So how did the Nephilim return? How could this have happened ? The Bible holds the answer : And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth . And Noah went in , and his sons, and his wife, and his sons ’ wives with him, into the ark , because of the waters of the flood . – Genesis 7: 6- 7 . While Noah and his sons were 100 % human , we are not told the same about the wives of his 3 sons, Shem , Ham and Japheth . What is clear is that one or more of these women were carrying the Nephilim gene. This is the source of the post- flood Nephilim . Nowhere in the Bible is it ever stated that angels once again cohabited with human women . The first time Nephilim giants are mentioned by name after the flood is in Numbers 13 after the Exodus in which Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt to go to God’s designated Promised Land. Moses sent 12 spies to scout out the land in advance. 2 of the spies, Caleb and Joshua spoke of the land in glowing terms and urged the Israelites to enter and rightfully claim the land God had promised them. But the other 10 spies had a different opinion : And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said , Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it . But the men that went up with him said , We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we. 32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel , saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it , is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature . And there we saw the giants , the sons of Anak , which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight . – Numbers 13 :31- 33. We will discuss this extremely important passage in much more detail below but a few things should be noted . First off the giants living there were descendants of specific person named Anak. This description , where a Nephilim is referred to as “[ name ] who was born of the giant.. ” shows that the Nephilim hybrids after the flood were the offspring of other giants and not angels (this will be explained in greater detail in Part 2) . And in Numbers 13, the giants the spies saw were the sons of the Nephilim giant Anak. And they were so large that the Israelites spies were like insects to them. Additionally , these giants had special agricultural knowledge that they knew how to grow grapes so large that it took two Israelite men using poles to carry a cluster! So how did the giants return and how was it that they knew to be in the exact place that God was going to send His chosen people to, namely the land of Canaan? The answer starts with the lineage after the flood.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:42pm On Dec 11, 2015
Why Would Satan Do This?



DNA Nephilim Hyrbids | Nephilim Complete Bible
As it will be in the end times , much of the conflict
centers around human DNA.
After the sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden
God pronounced a judgment on Satan :
And the LORD God said unto the serpent,
Because thou hast done this , thou art cursed
above all cattle , and above every beast of the
field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust
shalt thou eat all the days of thy life : And I will
put enmity between thee and the woman, and
between thy seed and her seed ; it shall bruise
thy head , and thou shalt bruise his heel. –
Genesis 3 :14 -15.
This pronouncement was historic. God proclaimed
that the means by which Satan would ultimately
punished and destroyed would be through the seed
of the woman . ( It must be remembered at this point
that our enemy , Satan is a far older , and vastly more
powerful and evil being , so this prophecy was a
serious pronouncement ). A human woman would
give birth to a male child who would one day
destroy the Devil. This was the first prophecy of the
coming Messiah , Jesus Chris . Satan was put on
notice. From then on he set out to corrupt or
destroy an God-fearing child as that could potentially
be the prophesied Redeemer . To no surprise the first
Godly child born, Abel, was killed by his wicked
brother Cain. Cain was banished and Adam and Eve
bore another son Seth. At his birth Eve declared :
“ For God, said she , hath appointed me another
seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. ” –
(Genesis 4 :25 ).
As more God- fearing sons began to populate the
Earth , Satan instituted his Nephilim plan into action.
By corrupting the seed of the woman, Satan could
prevent the birth of the Messiah , who of course, had
to be human and not part fallen angel . Satan wants
the Word of God to fail but he knew that in addition
to the woman , God prophesied that Satan too would
have a “seed” (v . 15 ). Thus the Nephilim were an
attempt to thwart God’s plan of salvation for
humanity . At every step, the Nephilim giants , via
their evil angelic parentage , sought to undermine or
undo what God had set out for humanity to be
reconciled to Him . In their dominance of the Earth ,
they reproduced so rapidly, God proclaimed that all
flesh on the Earth had become corrupted . They
dominated the Earth with war , bloodshed and their
pagan religion ( which will be covered in Part 2 of
this series ).
The Nephilim giants spread violence and sin that :
“ God saw that the wickedness of man was great
in the earth , and that every imagination of the
thoughts of his heart was only evil continually .”
Humanity was on the verge of being wiped out with
no hope of being saved from sin if every person
born became part fallen angel . Thus God judged the
Earth with the flood .
The Purpose of the Flood in Noah ’s Day
Noah Ark Nephilim Flood Punishment | Nephilim
Rather than being an act of cruelty , the Flood was
God’s way of saving the last of humanity from
complete destruction.
Many pastors , Bible scholars and Bible skeptics alike
view the flood as God’s way of dealing with humanity
after humanity just sinning too much . However, with
all due respect, this is a very simplistic way of
looking at the flood . After all, today ’s society is just
as corrupt and depraved, if not far worse than any
era before ( more people have been killed in war in
the past century than in the prior 900 years ). So
why would such a global judgment only happen in
Noah ’s day ?

The answer is that there were far more
complex issues going on in the days of Noah then
just humans sinning .
The flood served 3 chief purposes : 1 ) To destroy the
Nephilim giants . 2 ) To punish the angels who
committed the illicit relations with women and make
an example of them so that no other angels would
ever attempt this again and 3) to save humanity from
certain destruction.
Much more than the “ over-reaction by an angry
God” as skeptics like to paint it , the flood was God’s
way of preserving the human race and its bloodline,
before it became completely corrupted by the
Nephilim giants . This is an important point : many
people today point to the flood as “proof ” that God
is cruel and angry with humanity all the time, and
willing to just kill millions of people in genocide on a
whim . However the Biblical truth was that God sent
the flood to preserve humanity and to make sure we
could still receive the promised Redeemer who could
save our souls. Without Jesus Christ , there is no
hope . There is no future. There is no forgiveness .
Meaning every person would spend eternity in hell .
The flood was God’s way to keep that hope for all
people.
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a
just man and perfect in his generations, and
Noah walked with God.
Noah was chosen to carry on and re-start humanity
after the flood because he was a believer in God.
Additionally he was “perfect in his generations”
which meant that his genetic bloodline and ancestry
was 100 % human. Noah had not been a part of the
Nephilim hybridization that was plaguing humanity .
The Hebrew word for “perfect ” in that verse is
tamiym , which means “complete , whole ” with
reference to health and physical condition . This is
the same word used to describe the condition of
animal sacrifices to the Lord:
And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace
offerings unto the LORD to accomplish his vow,
or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep , it shall
be perfect to be accepted ; there shall be no
blemish therein . – Leviticus 22: 21.
Thus Noah, his three sons and their wives were able
to survive the flood and re- start humanity . But
unfortunately , the Nephilim giants returned.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:31pm On Dec 11, 2015
[b][/b] Nephilim Giant Offspring Nephilim Giant Height Comparison | Nephilim By the measurements in Scripture, the original Nephilim offspring were quite larger than the average human . The offspring from this illicit union between angels and human women were giants who “ became mighty men which were of old , men of renown .” ( Genesis 6) The fact that they were giants , is also proof in and of itself that their parentage was superhuman. But these giants were evil. Having been born of corrupted , Satanic angels they dominated the Earth and filled it with violence. It is also interesting to note that the Bible calls them “ men of renown .” The Hebrew word here, shem , refers to being famous and legendary . It is as if the Bible is indicating that when the reader hears of legends of “demigods ” , titans or legendary heroes who were part god , that this is who those “myths ” were referring to. These were ‘men’ of superhuman ability and strength. In addition to causing violence and sin in the world , the Nephilim were also corrupting the human bloodline.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:26pm On Dec 11, 2015
Did Angels Have Sexual Relations With Human Women ? Job , the oldest book of the Bible, was written by the patriarch Job who lived close to the time of the flood , thus the references to angels reflect this . There is passage not often cited in scripture that states directly that certain angels were indeed involved in illicit relations with human women . It occurs when Eliphas, one of Job’s friends who is consoling him over the loss of his family in a Satanically empowered hurricane , shares a Divine vision he had : Now a thing was secretly brought to me, and mine ear received a little thereof. In thoughts from the visions of the night, when deep sleep falleth on men, Fear came upon me , and trembling , which made all my bones to shake . Then a spirit passed before my face; the hair of my flesh stood up: It stood still , but I could not discern the form thereof: an image was before mine eyes, there was silence , and I heard a voice , saying, Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker? Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly : – Job 4 :13 -18. The word “folly ” in the Old Testament is used to describe sexual sin. Once again, we use Scripture to interpret Scripture. Here are several examples: And Dinah the daughter of Leah, which she bare unto Jacob , went out to see the daughters of the land. And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite , prince of the country , saw her , he took her, and lay with her , and defiled her … And the sons of Jacob came out of the field when they heard it : and the men were grieved , and they were very wroth , because he had wrought folly in Israel in lying with Jacob ’ s daughter: which thing ought not to be done . – Genesis 34 :1 -2 , 7 . Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father ’ s house , and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die : because she hath wrought folly in Israel , to play the LovePeddler in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you . – Deuteronomy 22 :21. And it came to pass after this , that Absalom the son of David had a fair sister , whose name was Tamar; and Amnon the son of David loved her . And Amnon was so vexed , that he fell sick for his sister Tamar; for she was a virgin ; and Amnon thought it hard for him to do anything to her… And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her , Come lie with me , my sister. And she answered him , Nay , my brother , do not force me ; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel : do not thou this folly . – 2 Samuel 13 :1 -2 . 11 -12. So here we see that certain untrustworthy angels were charged with the sin of “ folly” for sinful sexual acts . In the Septuagint the verse from Job says: “ he perceives perverseness in his angels” giving even more confirmation that there were sinful sexual acts committed by angels. The books of 2 Peter and Jude detail the punishment of the angels who committed these sins : And the angels which kept not their first estate , but left their own habitation , he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day . Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner , giving themselves over to fornication , and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire . Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh , despise dominion , and speak evil of dignities. – Jude 1 :6 -8 . Here we see a reference to angels who left their “habitation ” and are reserved in chains until Judgment Day . This was the punishment for those angels who left their habitation of he spirit world to “go after strange flesh ”, namely human women . Also note there is a reference to Sodom and Gomorrah, cities so steeped in sexual corruption that when two Godly angels cam to visit the home of Lot to usher he and his family out of the city , the men and boys came to Lot ’s home demanding that the angels be brought out so that they could “know them. ”
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:21pm On Dec 11, 2015
here is a DETAILED EXPLANATION of Nephilim gaints of which the research I know God led me to last 2 months as I was growing spiritually after so much ignorance in time past, after this narration, I will never talk on this issue again because I know the devil is indeed a roaring lion seeking for whom to devour ;;;;;









“ And there we saw the giants … . and we were in our
own sight as grasshoppers. ” — Numbers 13 :33.

In our original article on the Nephilim , we detailed
the Biblical origin of the half -angelic , half - human
hybrid giants, known as Nephilim, who were the
product of illicit relations between evil fallen angels
and human women in the time before the Flood and
Noah ’s Ark. The flood wiped out the giants but
shortly after the flood they returned and spread all
throughout the Promised Land. As this article will
show , not only did the giants return after the flood,
they were major enemies of God and His chosen
nation, Israel for centuries. This article will show that
for a time Nephilim were all over the ancient Middle
East wreaking havoc , attacking God’ s people and
creating spiritual practices to lure humanity in
worshiping Satan and his angels.
Genesis 6 : The Origin of the Nephilim
And it came to pass, when men began to
multiply on the face of the earth, and
daughters were born unto them, That the sons
of God saw the daughters of men that they
were fair ; and they took them wives of all
which they chose . And the LORD said , My spirit
shall not always strive with man, for that he
also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred
and twenty years . There were giants in the
earth in those days; and also after that , when
the sons of God came in unto the daughters of
men, and they bare children to them, the same
became mighty men which were of old, men of
renown . And God saw that the wickedness of
man was great in the earth , and that every
imagination of the thoughts of his heart was
only evil continually. — Genesis 6 :1 -5 .
This brief passage tells a very important origin story .
A group of the “sons of God”, the Biblical name for
angels, in rebellion against The Lord , came to Earth
and took human women as wives to have illicit
relations. And their children, half - human, half -
angelic hybrids, were the Nephilim giants . The idea
of angels sleeping with women and having kids is not
something that all Christians agree upon , know
about or even comfortable with. However , the truth
of Christianity is based upon one source: God’ s Word
as revealed in the Holy Bible . And from a study of
Scripture it becomes clear that this event did indeed
happen .
Were the “ Sons of God” Angels?
This question is often raised initially as an objection
to the idea that Nephilim giants ever even existed.
the Hebrew words for the “sons of God” is B ’nai Ha
Elohim, which would means these are Heavenly
beings, giving credence to them being offspring of
fallen angels ( the term Elohim is literally the plural of
‘god ’) . And then we see the children of these sons of
God and daughters of men were “ mighty men” and of
“renown . ” They were also “giants .” Something in their
genetics made them super -sized people. And it was
their fallen angelic parentage .
But again , we must keep searching the Bible to make
certain of meaning. The Bible is self- confirming and
one passage of Scripture can always be confirmed by
another . We see the term “sons of God” next used in
the book of Job . Job chapter 1 reads : “ Now there
was a day when the sons of God came to present
themselves before the LORD , and Satan came
also among them . And the LORD said unto
Satan , Whence comest thou ? Then Satan
answered the LORD , and said, From going to and
fro in the earth , and from walking up and down
in it . ” ( Job 1 :6 -7 )
The scene being described , where God is literally
meeting with the sons of Go , took place in Heaven .
This is a Divine Council that God holds where He
chooses to meet with both good and evil angels to
discuss affairs of the world (for more examples of
these assemblies see 1 Kings 22 and Psalm 82) .
Another Divine Council is called in Job Chapter 2 .
Verse 1 states : “ Again there was a day when the
sons of God came to present themselves before
the LORD , and Satan came also among them to
present himself before the LORD. ”
So again from the clear reading of the text , the “ sons
of God” are not human men but are in fact angels,
who are meeting in Heaven with The Lord . And the
Hebrew term is b ’nai ha Elohim. The third reference
to the sons of God in the Old Testament is again in
Job , but this time in chapter 38 . God who in this is
posing questions to Job about the creation of the
universe ( to show Job how little understanding and
knowledge he has compared to The Lord) says:
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of
the earth ? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Who hath laid the measures thereof , if thou
knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon
it ? Whereupon are the foundations thereof
fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
When the morning stars sang together, and all
the sons of God shouted for joy? — Job
38 :4 -7
So again, not only were the sons of God again with
God, they existed even before the Earth itself was
created . Every use of the term b ’nai ha elohim in the
Old Testament is a reference to angelic beings . In the
Septuagint, the oldest form of the Old Testament
today ( and the version most quoted by Jesus and His
disciples in the New Testament ) the term ‘ sons of
God’ is not even used in these passages in Job , it just
reads “ the angels of God.” Thus it can be
concluded with certainty that the sons of God in
Genesis 6 were in fact , angels.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 6:09pm On Dec 11, 2015
@bro vooks,, this stories are not self centered.. if you don't agree with a statement, narrate your opinion and move on... God who sees the heart of men knows those that are his children... every Christian has a gift from the. Father and am sure. you can as well inspire us here by telling us of your personal testimonies strictly based on Bible as you want instead of creating unnecessary arguments.. divisions are from the devil.. even when you emphasis always on how those with powers of Holy Spirit I.e miracles, casting out devils e.t.c were rejected by Jesus on Judgment day, you. failed to complete the chapter on this reason for people to understand that it's actually christians who are hypocrites and do not have the love of God in them luke 13 ( “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will
enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who
does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many
will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out
demons and in your name perform many miracles?’
Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away
from me, you evildoers!’)



ALSO NOTE BELOW THAT IN MATTEW 23,THE WORD RIGHTEOUS WAS USED,,WHICH MEANS NOT ALL WHO CLAIM RIGHTEOUS WILL INHERIT HEAVEN.. NOW JESUS HERE STILL MAKES REFERENCE TO SAME POINT AS THAT IN LUKE13
( Matthew 25:31-46 New International Version (NIV)
The Sheep and the Goats
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the
angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All
the nations will be gathered before him, and he will
separate the people one from another as a shepherd
separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the
sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come,
you who are blessed by my Father; take your
inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the
creation of the world. For I was hungry and you
gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave
me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited
me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was
sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you
came to visit me.’
“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did
we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give
you something to drink? When did we see you a
stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and
clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison
and go to visit you?’
“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you
did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of
mine, you did for me.’
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from
me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared
for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and
you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave
me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did
not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not
clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not
look after me.’
“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you
hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or
sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not
do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but
the righteous to eternal life.”)
Politics › Re: How Dasuki Shared N30b 'Loot' To PDP, Reps, Anenih, Senator Ayu - The Nation by ccollins(m): 9:43am On Dec 11, 2015
drss:
...and d media trial continue. Make dem continue. dasuki, dopkesi will soon be released n aquitted by d court for lack of evidence. I don talk my own.
Even if dem show video of GEJ robbing CBN, he still remains my greatest hero!!!!!!!!!
most foolish comment I have ever read on nairaland. this is major reason why Nigeria is not moving foward
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 7:32am On Dec 11, 2015
instead of people asking the Holy Spirit which is a free gift from the Father so that others can learn or they keep shut, they are here arguing with pride. I. came here to. learn and not for arguments on the Bible.. when the law of. moses makes Peter think salvation is only for the Jews, he received a revelation from God concerning this even before Paul reproved Him... we must have godliness with power and not just a form of godliness . God is not an author of confusion
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 10:03pm On Dec 10, 2015
vooks:
Nonsense
You assume Noah's just and perfect has something to do with his biology and not character. Those words are used EXCLUSIVELY for integrity and nothing else.


More nonsensical conjecture
If God is busy ridding the earth of genetic adultery, you would think He was dumb enough to admit 'disturbed DNA' into the ark

Noah as not FROM a 'perfect line', he was perfect in all his generation meaning AMONG his contemporaries

Which means saving Noah's family was actually helping spread the defective genes?
Please stop blaspheming


Which means the flood was hopelessly ineffective in terminating defective genes.

There was no Nephilim in Caanan, just big men who the spies in their EVIL REPORT called Nephilim. Please do a word study of EVIL REPORT. It means gossip, slander.....

And you also accuse God of filling Caanan with Nephilim seeing He blessed the sons with 'recessive but defective genes'
Genesis 9:1 (ESV)
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth
it's not good to argue my friend.. instead pray for your neighbor who you think is ignorant for perfection.. being too assertive and questioning even little details like this, is it going to give us life or make us inherit eternal life.. do you think arguing on bible verses would make God reward you more.. just cross examine yourself and ask God for right things
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 4:02pm On Dec 10, 2015
okparea:
sorry i mean years
you mean you were given 30 years limit but by whohuh
Family › Re: It Turns Me On Seeing My Wife Hurt, Sad Or In Pain by ccollins(m): 10:37pm On Dec 09, 2015
KashyBaby:
Ur a sadist, OP, the pain of others are ur pleasure... undecided
sweetheart, no calls, no emails,, you just snub since makes me feel tired.. my phone can't use whatapp
Christianity Etc › Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 10:09am On Dec 09, 2015
nnamdiosu:
bro I feel ur pain. first have u rededicated ur life bk to him? that's the first place to recorrect everything. you need to ask God for forgiveness and forgive yourself too. bitterness has to go.
yes bro, have not quite subdued masturbation enough but then it's not a compulsive habit like before. also, in addition to the past, before I lost my laptop, there was a girl offline and also online (model) that I lusted after. in my former school . but never had sex,, chaiii I don suffer ooo. truly the devil came only to kill steal and. destroy. also before the laptop incident, there was this unfortunate night I was tested highly without any sufficient time or chance
.maybe due I was insensitive towards the things of. the spirit due to my sinful life even then, I listened to all forms of ungodly music and loved them, am surprised because I was same person that highly frowned against such when my brothers and sisters play it. so that late night, I took my laptop to browse wifi instead of reading as usual and lo. and behold, the room @ faculty which I was in was dark due to faulty lights but I preferred it because I wanted isolation due to so much attention from people. didn't want any one to see me about only two people were in the room, all of a sudden a lady among the two people who were reading with lantern led. didn't care to know whatever or whomever they were as it was like I was on. top I'd world,( finances were moving fine, lived okay, had an admission to. one of the. best faculties and courses, no issue and no problem,, was not attracted to any girl due to my experience in my former school which I transferred from ,was reading.. had every good thing any under graduate could ever ask for because my family had sworn since I got. my admmission to last due to some past reasons, I had peace of mind and was a big guy, couldn't past by anyone who know me without being greeted respectfully ) tragedy struck that night which sadly was just 2 weeks into my admission.. the girl came boldly to me like she knew me very well and she was a year ahead of me in. class... she came very peacefully though with a very soft voice that could entice a man but my alarm bells weren't ringing ,tell. me why? then. I was addicted to some hard worldly songs of which wande coal ololufe rang in my brains.. I was. still chaste enough to know the dangers of inviting sexual immorality or starting a bad relationship but I didn't believe that a girl could be bold enough to sit close to a man she never knew before to tempt him or to extreme extent of pulling your skirt up.. she. was very smart and showed me the signs very early she wanted me, that was how easy attention had become, don't even know whether the devil seeked to target me early and through all means before I begin to. realise the important things God had for me and also rewards then in school.. so as I say, she bit her lips always and told me in innocent deceptive ways about her family and tried to make me invoke pity on her as well as this weird sexual appeasement, I really struggled to resist but to. my shock, found my hands on her laps .she was even happy I did so instead of feeling embarrassed #for crying out loud, it's our first time if meeting together. so her long stories came forth later of how she loves, person wey I no even know as friend.. AFTER the laptop incident, she left me,, she gave me some reasons of how i fumbled then bla bla but I knew the laptop incident was one of main things, I suspect that her visit that fateful night was a spiritual attack

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