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Marriage Ties
(3) "Moses and Muhummed married and begat children, but Jesus remained
a bachelor all his life.is this true?
"Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses."

Three Unlikes: In the FIRST place Jesus is not like Moses,
because, according to you - 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God, is this
true?" "SECONDLY, according to you - 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE
WORLD', but Moses did not have to die for the sins of the world. Is this
true?" ""THIRDLY, according to you - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but
Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?"

Father and Mother
(1) "Moses had a father and a mother. Muhummed also had a father and a
mother. But Jesus had only a mother, and no human father. Is this true?" He
said: "Therefore Jesus is not like
Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses!"

Miraculous Birth
(2) "Moses and Muhummed were born in the normal, natural course, i.e. the
physical association of man and woman; but Jesus was created by a special
miracle. You will recall that we are told in the Gospel of St. Matthew 1:18." '.
. . . . . BEFORE THEY CAME TOGETHER, (Joseph the Carpenter and Mary)
SHE WAS FOUND WITH CHILD BY THE HOLY GHOST.' And St. Luke tells
us that when the good news of the birth of a holy son was announced to her,
Mary reasoned: '. . . . . HOW SHALL THIS BE, SEEING I KNOW NOT A MAN?AND THE ANGEL ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO HER, THE HOLY GHOST SHALL
COME UPON THEE, AND THE POWER OF THE HIGHEST SHALL OVERSHADOW
THEE: . . . . .' (Luke 1:35). The Holy Qur'an confirms the miraculous birth of
Jesus, in nobler and sublimer terms. In answer to her logical question: "O
my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me? The
angel says in reply: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: when He
hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it "Be," and it is!' (Holy Qur'an,
3:47). It is not necessary for God to plant a seed in man or animal. He
merely wills it and it comes into being. This is the Muslim conception of the
birth of Jesus"."Is it true that
Jesus was born miraculously as against the natural birth of Moses and
Muhurthmed?": "Therefore Jesus is not
like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses. And God says to Moses in the
Book of Deuteronomy 18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" (Like You, Like Moses) and
Muhummed is like Moses."

"Is it true that
Jesus was born miraculously as against the natural birth of Moses and
Muhurthmed?" "Therefore Jesus is not
like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses. And God says to Moses in the
Book of Deuteronomy 18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" (Like You, Like Moses) and
Muhummed is like Moses."

@ vairo,

will you continue to conclude the verse translation, since that word brethren is the only word that you translate out of the verse,

@toba
Must u confused moslems use d bible to justify your mythical book(quran)?
Go to answering islam u will find out that Jesus was d person being spoken about¬ mohammad.
[quote][/quote]you mentioned that the jesus was the person being the verse spoken about not Muhammed i reason with you, but in which way jesus is like moses, please explain!!!

@afiq
Chakulalala bla bla bla bla once an idiot always an idiot
[quote][/quote]better for you to refered the above saying to yourself.

@davidlyan, nuclearboy,

i am not happy adjacent to your post, but sha no problem hope that you all discovered the above verse that withuot disparage i asked for it 's meaning, but you guys were busy pointed the word brethren and capitalised on it, what of the other parts of the verse like(" like unto
thee" "and I will put my words in his mouth " "and he shall speak unto
them" " all that I shall command him") won't you know the meaning of this,if not, guys evacuate please,while if yes translate!!!!.As i mentioned earlier no room for argue make use of your number six only to depend your point not to apply through ignorance and vilify please.

@vairo thank you,

but yet my question is unanswer, all i want is not beyond to enligteen me, by responding that the verse was referred to so person, without vilify i want you to mollify and answer me straight forward, that is the beginning of the disscussion with you.

@davidylan,@nuclearboy,and the rest i am no more interested on your posting again, because i am not here for skirmishing.

Muhammad was a fake prophet. Enough said lol
[quote][/quote]This thread is for learned christians, not like you.

@blank,

dont you know even the way to the nursery or------------- by then?

@vairo,

thank you and i will ready for this discussion with you, on the otherhand i will like to answer my question in a simple words for me to understanding.

matters concerning brethren i have a source over it, which is
The prophecy is much more than this single phrase which reads
as follows: "I WILL RAISE THEM UP A PROPHET FROM AMONG THEIR
BRETHREN LIKE UNTO THEE . . . . . ." The emphasis is on the words -
'From among their brethren.' Moses and his people, the Jews, are here
adressed as a racial entity, and as such their 'brethren' would undoubtedly
be the Arabs. You see, the Holy Bible speaks of Abraham as the "Friend of
God". Abraham had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a
son - HIS FIRST-BORN - ' . . . . . . And Abraham called HIS SON'S
name, which Hagar bore, Ishmael.' (Genesis16:15). 'And Abraham
took Ishmael HIS SON . . . . . ." (Genesis 17:23). 'And Ishmael HIS
SON was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of
his foreskin.' (Genesis 17:25). Up to the age of THIRTEEN Ishmael was the
ONLY son and seed of Abraham, when the covenant was ratified between
God and Abraham. God grants Abraham another son through Sarah, named
Isaac, who was very much the junior to his brother Ishmael.


Arabs and Jews
If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are
brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the
children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the children
of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible
affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS
BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE
OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the
brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the
brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of
Abraham. This is exactly as the prophecy has it - 'FROM AMONG THEIR
BRETHREN'. (Deut. 18:18). The the prophecy distinctly mentions that the
coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children
of Israel' or from 'among themselves', but from among their brethren.
MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!

@toba,

please answer my question first adjacent to dueto.18,18. if you can't your participation over this disscussion is highly not needed.

i am not present here for skirmishing please, if you are not sound related to biblical issues please quit.

if there's no doubt the verse of duetoromony refer to jesus , so 'in which way is jesus like moses?

note,

the most important words of this prophecy are 'like unto thee' meaning like moses.

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto
thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto
them all that I shall command him.

Deuteronomy, chapter 18, verse 18.

"To whom does this prophecy refer?" i am sure some are refer it Jesus, if you refer the verse to him, what is your reason?

For only well learned christians please, no room for argue here please.

God.

Please, can somebody brief me about who granted the miracle to jesus.

This is madness and ignorance.

Praise be to Allah.

I stopped reading at the point where someone slept with a 10 year old.
That's sad. Married or not, that is so sad.
Thank God such things dont happen in civilized society's anymore.
[quote][/quote]@blank,

a nine year old gave birth in china in a couple of month ago, why it's happened ,were they not civilised or what? explain.

Nothing you know about islam, simply because you have accessing it through internet, get yourself to the right place and enquire knowledge concerning islam.

@All,

you were experienced the truth. But why most of your ladies were not complienced.

@All,

keep investigating millions of contradiction and error are there.

@All,

i counted you as pools, reasoninng with ongoing strike that recently solved in the southern and eastern part of N9a by the northerners being halting from importing goods to them.they really pardoned the northan pple to care them if not they were almost to dies,if you proof me rigth the northaners have an easiest to finish all the southan, eastern and the rest within short period of time. you have to be very careful for sharing a wrong information although some of you were living in abroad.

Tell them woo.

But the silly don't know.

is that so.

Ishaq:243 "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom."

[9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'"

Bukhari:V4B52N137 "The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him, If he asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'"


http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/39388


Until Africans DUMP these false, demonic gods - christian and muslim - used by foreigners to enslave their bodies and their minds - Africa will know no peace.

The clock is ticking.


[quote][/quote]@Rossike, why are you arguing blindly without knowledge all what you have been poosted were nothing but lies, because no context in qur'an or hadith that is similar to what you have been posted. please if you are not sound on anything halt from arguing on it.

Subhanallahi, imagine all these nasty comment about Islam,the truth is that most of us actually believe in miracles and want to see proofs that Islam is truly the religion of Allah but the truth is that Allah is above everyone of us and needs no proofs and signs to make you believe in him!he is indeed the benficient the merciful and he rightly guides whoever he will, Alhamdullahi i have found peace in Islam and i am glad to be a Muslim.
To my fellow brothers and sisters in islam,the truth is dat alot of atrocities has been sponsored by the yehudees to pollute Islam but the best we can do is to reflect islam in our doings,be proud of the religion show more love to people around jes like the prophet Mohammed (S.A.W) did, seek for more knowledge and continue praying to Allah.we need not to argue wit nobody but to keep our soul clean and pray for Allah's favour, Ma Salam
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@Aisha ai,
wel come. Jazakil-lah.

ALHAMDULILAH,its a great sign 4rm ALLAH but when ALLAH does such some will embrace islam,while some will remain in thier kafr.mAY allah help us ameen.
[quote][/quote]Ameen.

Of course.