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smooooooth:
the next generation party of nigeria. NGN. i support. i belive we can make a difference, and start this movement, and to start we shld stop any form of tribalism, nepotism and all, its a one nigerian party, no igbo, no yoruba, no hausa. we the next generation can make this happen, its happening in the united states and other countries, where countries come first,  and nothing else. and we have always criticized the older generation for enthroning tribalism and co. so we shld do better. the party should be built on equity, fairness and justice. where the best will always win.

Well we are not making any form of political part or so so I dis-agree with that name NGN, we are creating a form of union were everybody even if we have an Indian that wants to support us. we dont mind, we just want a simple name but we can discuse about this name thing latter.

First now we need members, lets focus on membership first, if we have atleast maybe 15 - 20 members constant and serious members then we can decide on where to further our discussion.

I agree to the fact that we need to be relaxed and take things gently, no rushing. if we really wanna do this then we have to understand we need to take things step by step.

Atleast we now know we can get a site, so lets get more members then we talk somewhere (maybe on yahoo messanger) on the site naming and other objective of the things that might need to be on the site.

proudly9ja:
Name: Oluseyi

Location: UK

Interests: Engineering

(I intentionally slashed the Occupation with Interests so students like me wil be able to state their career paths rather than just say 'students'. Also, you may even be a medical doctor and have interests in other areas. From experience (again), I have come to realise that people funtion better and more effectively in their areas of interests rather than their occupations. )

I have taken the liberty of storing these data on an excel sheet on my computer. When we are large enough, I will group these into regions and then we can start suggesting dates when and where we can meet up. that alright?

May I also suggest that we shouldnt restrict this to Nigerians alone? as long as the person has Nigeria at heart?

You forgot to mention your number which is -------- 3

Thank you for your support, Yes I suggest it too that we shouldnt make it Nigerians alone and I hope other agrees too so we can have more ideas from different people all for one good purpose.

Thanks again for the storage, keep us updating on the numbers of members, I think we should be able to start discussing somwhere if we are able to have 10 - 15 CONSTANT, SERIOUS AND DEDICATED MEMBERS. Then from there we will continue

youngies:
I think the occupation is important so that we acan ccess the depth of the members of the Movement. It doesn't really matter if you are an Okada rider cos we will need all the possible hands we can find.

So what about students ?

I'm sure some people wont feel comfortable about it, its better to lay that off or maybe we shouldnt make it compulsory.

Wherever we have something or someone to fixing, he or she can suggest he or she will do it. Not forcing or impplicating any rules on anybody just bcus thats his or her profession.

proudly9ja:
Charles, the good thing is, we all have the same aim (I hope). We may disagree but thats meant to make us stronger and help us achieve the Purpose.

The yahoo thing is a good idea but the issue is, how do we get everyone to be on yahoo/msn at same time (especally with the time difference)? On Nairaland now, only 3 of us have been consistent in posting on this thread for the past 30 mins. That shold tell you something.

However, discussing here will give anyone the opportunity to contribute anytime he/she comes online and sees it. We just need the help of the Nairaland moderator(s) to keep it on the top links on the front page so people can see it anytime they come on Nairaland

You are right.

Again you made a point, we will still be here and at the same time talking on yahoo (Much easier and faster), we will invite new comers here to join there Simple.

Sky Blue:
I think we should not confuse being decisive with rushing things. The funny thing is that i have thought about what a scenario like this will entail for quite a while, so it is not just rushing things but things that have been thought off. I just hope that we realise that people will come from different angles and perspective and that is fine, as long as the ideas are progressive then i don;t see how they can be retrogressive. Forgive the use of the analogy with one body but many parts, hence the need to allow the different experiences and expertise or just plain knowledge of people to flourish. I have quite a few ideas but I would rather it be discussed in the right arena. There is something similar although a bit more on the political side that was proposed by someone on the site www.nigeriavillagesquare.com. I have membership with the site but rarely if ever contribute, however i think inviting whoever is willing to join from their forum would be good because it seems members of the Nigerian press and better known writers brace that site. Let us not joke this opportunity away please.

You are also right we shouldnt rush things.

About that site "www.nigeriavillagesquare.com", it is very very very very good and I have people there that will be willing to join, I am a member there and maybe you can figureout my name.

Name  --------------------  Charles

Location------------------- Western Europe

occupation/interests--- I dont think we need to identify if we are a doctor or a sales man (Cus some wont be comfortable with it).

Candidate Number ----- 1


The next person should put this in their message so we can from there know the amount of members, PLS put it just once and the last person will put the next number.

Example ; the next person now should put in his or her Candidate number 2 before writing his message(s).

Can we make a conference talk on yahoo or ?

I believe its a good aim we are aiming, we are all giving good objective.

We all also noticed that some people will be here today while some wont, this are what we also have to fix and thats why I said we should try to be patient for people to notice what we wanna do so they might have more reasons to always come online for their contribution or support.

NOTE : NO talking or complaining about anybody, we are not perfect and this is part of our problems we need to fix, not to underate anybody or discriminate cus of they dont have what you have. lets encourage and support each other.

youngies:
What the HELL with all these time-wasting attitude Charles

What's wrong with laying the proposed objectives here, yes here on this thread so that people can read and if they are convinced about it they can join the MOVEMENT.

Please lets start toying with the objectives now until will perfect it.

I suggest the first objective:

1. To unite and groom a new set of Nigerian Youths who will be filled with a great sense of patriotism, leadership qualities and integrity

Good devotion, well good objective you pointed out. I just believe a serious issue is/should be discused in a serious place.

I am not wasting any time brother, one cant just wake up one night and say he wants things to change and mind you Nigeria problem is large and needs alot of strategy if we really want success from our movement.

I am with you guys kampe, I just want us to take things slowly cus its not a childs play, "a child cant become an adult overnight". Anyway people should keep giving ideas and opinion so we can perfect it just like YOUNGIES said.

proudly9ja:
true, but from very small experience I have, I know that if we do not make the right and definite steps at the right time, then we may lose the plot and people may lose interest. As it is now, a lot of people are interested but we've spent 3 pages, still dilly dallying, when we should have started collating names of people who are interested already!

However, I strongly belive in a new Nigeria. I dont just believe it, I have SEEN it and anyone who has had the priviledge to see it will understand why Im so passionate about it. No matter if this works or not, that generation that will raise Nigeria has been born. The one who will lead us to the promised land will soon show forth.

My guy as you can see we are all passionate and I guess you dont expect anyone to come here and waste his or her time.

My guy pls try to understand this is not a cocacola or 7up that we can just open the bottle and drink, we are talking about government and Nigeria as a whole of 140million people. It will cost us alot and even if possible I hope we are not betrayed by some people (this is natural to happen).

So in this case, we have to relax, think, plan, analyze, make sure we are pure and serious enough. even if we have to use 5 pages to be sure and be clear first, then its surely a good thing after all they say "nothing good comes easy" lets take our time so as to achive the best.

proudly9ja:
same here,

over to you charles

Abeg I don talk am say its a union, freedom of speech and suggestion, Charles is just trying to make things accurate and very understanding. So I say if someone can give us the list of numbers of member we have. Then from there we will figureout things.

Humm I was thinking if we can go on yahoo messanger for the main time to make conference talk, (Just a suggestion).

youngies:
We wait for you for further directives.

Wait for who brother ?, as have said that this will be like a union were everybody is involve and we all have a say.

So I am reading everybodys comment and see it so fine, just want us to take it slowly and maturely. If we have or know the numbers of people involve then we will know the members we already have.

Then from there someone will figureout by ourselves were to talk or meet for our discussion. then on our main discussion is were will lay down the table and objectives.

Moves:
I Think we are jumping the Gun too fast, we need co-ordination first, this I believe is the first thing to do, maybe a set of four co-ordinators, then we can assign duties of what we want to do, and how we go about doing it, So Lets start about assigning co-ordinators for this thread and purpose,

Thank you, we should take it slowly, this things is not a simple thing or easy as some people here think.

We have to seriously plan and discuse about this with many supporters, we need to be dedicated and very serious also. I want us to give the numbers of those we have, then we can fix a place or where to talk about everything in general.

First I must say I am happy people are willing and dedicated.

Secondly my brothers, make we take am easy the way some people are suggesting a fast move. If we act fast or too fast then I must say it will surely not last.

We should act and make this as accurate as possible, we dont have to act on dates or pursue anything. lets concentrate on our own main focus and objective.

Yes we need a site, pls lets take it slowly and step by step, we dont need anyone to handle anything for now. we only need to know who want to be involve and after this we will then fix somewhere we can talk about everything.

proudly9ja:
Good Idea guys. However, I would not want us to start with a political party. Lets start as someone said, as a movement. Politics is very complicated, trust me.

First step I believe is to divide NairaLanders into 4 regions. Nigeria, USA, UK and Canada (these is my suggestion and open to debate. I must also apologise for people outside these regions. I suggest they join the region closest to them).

Now, in each of these regions, there should be coordinators for a conference to be held in say, one or two months at a well defined venue. For instance Im in UK, and I think London will be a good venue (though Im a bit far from London). Anyways, all conferences must have the same agenda and hold within 1 week discussing various issues in Naija and action plans. I strongly believe that its not until we become politicians that we can make changes. Martin Luther King, Mahatma Ghandi, etc were not politicians yet, they made great changes that some politicians will never make in their lifetimes.

Lets start from that first step and like Johnny Walker, we will to that Journey of a thousand miles.

What do you guys think?

PS: I volunteer to be one of the coordinators in the UK

This is a very good idea, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS NOT A POLITICAL PART !!!

Secondly, It was a good idea you said which I have also said before that we will make it regional cus of those abroad and in Nigeria. We will first make all our meetings or discussion online until we are strong enough and have majority members before making any grouping members (UK - Nigeria and so on)

As we have started seeing majority numbers, well I wish someone could start listing the numbers of members we are starting to have. We want a serious and dedicated members that will be always available to contact not someone that comes online today and comes online again another 1 week.

We can make it if we really want this.

pixiraver:
We need a point of contact starting with a website, i will gladly pay for the domain and host the website from my own pocket. I don't really care if it is a political party or youth movement all i want is change in Nigeria. So people what is it going to be? Ideas please.

I am happy people are turning out with joy and pure willingness.

Yes we all just want a better Nigeria, but at the same time we have to seriously plan and discuse our goal or mission and if we dont do it properly then it might break up in the middle.

Yes I agree we need a point of contact like a website, thank you for that willingness of getting us a site (wow this is wonderful). At the moment, all we need is to have more people like you and I to agree on our idea and then we can makeup something on where to make our discussion (Like a site or so).

We just need more members, we will succed my Nigerian.

youngies:
The motive is a good one, but a political party? Hell NO.  I will rather suggest we begin something like a MOVEMENT or a PRESSURE group

I suggest we call it YOUTH MOVEMENT FOR CHANGE (YMC)

Qualification for joining: Nigerian
Qualification for explusion: Tribalistic and/or corruption

This is a brilliant suggestion, yes we know it cannot be a  political part but we just havent gotten a name for it yet.

Good name but we might need some elder support, so maybe we dont know need the "YOUTH" so we should find another name for it.

The qualification is OK, but as for me personally I dont mind if we have a white guy as a member. I just want a better place to live and want to start this in Nigeria thats all.

The Qualification for explusion or goal is perfect (Which is also our main goal): Tribalism / Discrimination / Corruption

First I believe we should try to have enough members.

We should try to make people understand what we intend to do and we would like supports and contributions from individual.

If we have some majority numbers of members, then we can proceed with our objective.

Lets figure-out how to get more members, minimum 10 or 15 atleast. Then we will assign ourselves to something cus some people maybe will handle getting more people while at the same time some will try to figureout a place were to make our discussions.

pixiraver:
I think Seun should also assist and put this topic on the homepage of nairaland,

Do you think we can do all the discussion here ?

I was thinking we should only get as much people we can then to make a place for discussion and how to get more people involve, this is not going to be a joke so I think we should handle it with seriousness and proper manner. Here are full of some confusing people that might just dis-stabilize the whole program.

Well its just my opinion, so lets all contribute ideas and see how to go about it.

pixiraver:
We need to outline our strategy on recruitment, we surely can recruit lots of people here on Nairaland and also the likes of facebook etc

If we want something done we shouldn't just sit down there and complain, we need to stand up and do something, but if we decide to sit down and complain without doing anything then i don't think Nairaland makes any sense to any of us.

I am no politician or campaigner, i just want a better Nigeria. Simple.

Thank you so much for this statement, "I am not a politician or campaigner but wants a better Nigeria" this is the same thing I want too and thats all.

But its unfortunate only few people wants or are ready for this, I just will like people to reply this thread constantly so as to know if they want or not and were we can start from and give the list of those that want then maybe we can give ourselves a starting job of bringing in members so we can combine our innitiatives or ideas together.

jamace:
This is one of the great wonders of life. This can make one to commit blasphemy by asking so many "whys" and "hows" about the benevolence of the almighty God. Hmmnn. It is well .

I just dont understand why some people come up to be unfortunate to have mysterious things, things that are so terrible some cant even be treated or have a proper life. I'm confused.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COQ1-utBwMI&feature=related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgQpMKES7BI&feature=related

Am sorry to make this topic here but I just dont understand why some people are extra-ordinary or should I say unfortunate.

Why ?

B.O.S.S.:
I like your idea and opinion on how the whole group think would look like. It doesn't matter that we've not got much people yet. People would join if they see the progress we make. I'm very sure we could all do it. It doesn't matter where we're located. So far we have the NIgerian identity and we know the reasons we're trying to give all for this cause, it'll go down well.

Thanks

Thanks for your words and encouragement, Why I believe we will need more people is bcus of the distance and locations. I believe we should have atleast 2-5 candidates in each location or country abroad and more candidates in Nigeria were I believe its the head-quaters , LOL,

If things are not properly arranged or set then i believe there will be a floop in the middle, we have to maybe start convincing people here to lets make a active positive change together.

If we have more numbers, then we can start to talk about starting. (then I will give me own idea our it should be)

pixiraver:
This is no issue of who gets the juice, we are all committed and want the best for Nigeria, we know what Nigeria needs, which is good leadership and we can set the example. I am currently driven to help my country and believe me i don't want to be paid doing it. Let's make this happen i plead with you all, our unborn children will be glad we made this choice, let us be part of history.

Thanks guy, I want you to know I am strongly included and support this.

I'm just waiting to see more contributors and supporters but as you can see they all can talk talk and complain but dont really wanna take part in any action (what a pitty).

sashbaby:
an organized forum that throws its weight behind people with integrity yes.political party no. before we know it who gets the juicy positions sets in.

My sister this wont be any juicy position for anybody, it will be a form of union where any decision or plans cant be accomplished or taken without the total support and agreement from the whole members.

Its more like a paliament were everybodys contribution is needed and if just one is left then we have to fix it, it will be totally different and pure. I personally dont see any problem except that how and when will this happen for real.

I hope people are serious and ready enough just the way they have said, God bless us all.

This is something we should all see and notice, even without nobody telling us anything we all are willing to contribute and support without thinking twice.

Meaning we all have one goal, we want a change for ourselves and our country. whatever the obstacle is I'm sure we can fight against it and make people understand that we are one Nigeria so we have to be one with one love.

First this won't be as fast ad some people are saying here, it as to be seriously planned and should be taken serious by serious supporters and contributors. We all have to be determined and understand that once we start then we must finish is with success saying "this betterness and movement start from a group of young Nigerians online" but ending it like I AM ONE OF THEM.

Lastly we have to know those who are willing and where to discuse about Introduction before the main things/objectives.

Kobojunkie:
You have to define waiting. Here is a misconception that I implore you to do away with. Many whom you see here "Complaining" and urging people to wake up and smell the roses are not necessarily all here to waste time. Some of us are doing what we know to do best at this time. We can come up with elaborate ideas of what we could do and not do and at the end of the day, we may or may not get these dreams to become a reality or we can look inwards at where we currently are and work from there.
Next to true; I have, myself, tried on so many occasions to work with fellow Nigerians on various projects and have discovered quite quickly that many are not really interested in being a part of the hard work needed to realize the change some of us dream of.
So, after all that, I decided it best to do my own part with the talent I know I have and hope and believe that will be enough to change some minds.
It is your idea but if you feel you are the kind who can pull it off, then I urge you to work at it and see it become a reality. Just do not go writing everyone who is not doing it your way as not doing anything at all.

My guy as have said, knowing and doing the right thing is part of a positive contribution, we should all just take a place and do something and I believe with this atleast things will be pretty much better.

Thanks for the advise and I will stay focus and hope what we say today becomes joy for everybody tomorrow.

@Kobojunkie

Thank you, if its revolution or whatever other means am OK and the organisation surely is for the progress of Nigerians so surely they will be in support.

But at this current stage, do we keep waiting or what can we do ? Nigerians thmselves are not ready to make any kinda movement.

I understand you my guy, as have said its just my own idea of how to just make my contribution for the effort to develop and assist Nigerians for the good of Nigeria.

asha 80:
Are you attacking me or the 'intellectuals'

Just wanted to understand you bro.

asha 80:
most nigerian 'intellectuals' are tribalists in their closets.

Are you among ?

If so what have you or you intend to gain from it ?

Dont you want to change for good ?

Kobojunkie:
So, we allow government to continue with its pillaging while we take money from our own pockets to build the country?


A Union? At what point does the union tackle leadership issues in the country? And if the union embarks on developing infrastructure using donated money, are people going to continue paying taxes to the government as well?
You keep saying doing positives individually, but what qualifies as positive action in this case?

Well lets say we keep doing our thing the best way we can, yes our own money to build a better place/life for our children (since our government becomes useless and I asure you at a point they will feel shameful).

Maybe at the point we have educated ourselves enough to be able to come together and demand for a change of leadership, Sure people will pay their tax to the government and what am saying here surely cant make an impact in 140million people but with more people doing things individually, Am sure we will make things good for majority.

What qualifies it as a positive action is when it begins and making the "positive impact". It is my opinion of something good and even if it doesnt sound perfect enough but surely for a good purpose.