afrodoc2: Ciro was a good defender. Definitely better than that mark iuliano. However it looks like we have different definitions of that term "world class". IMO he was not one of the top 10 CBs in that era so he des not qualify. And unless you are making a list of top 40 or top 50 defenders Italy ever produced i don't see how Ferrara makes the list. lol
I watched Montero, i never said he was not classy on the ball. Just saying he was not individually at the top of the game and he showed poor positioning multiple times. If i can name 8 to 10 players better than you in your position in my opinion the argument for you being world class is weak. Not every good player is world class.
What era are we referring to?. Just making sure as He had a long career. If we are talking about the 90s, then I'd say He was. You'd be hard pressed to Name 10 CBs that had better careers in the 90s.
I agree He did show signs of poor positioning at times but that shouldn't distract from His qualities as a Footballer. I think we need to judge Him on a yearly basis. He was most certainly world class in some of those years especially in His Pomp.
As for your last statement 100% agree. However He was not just simply a "Good Player'.
afrodoc2: A very good defensive UNIT i agree. But let's not use team success alone to judge individual quality. So was Mark iuliano world class too or was ciro Ferrara world class? Just cos the TEAM had success does not mean every player in it was world class. I can easily name 10 defenders in that period better than Montero and his doped CB goons.
Ciro was most definitely world class. One of the Best defenders Italy has produced. He was simply unlucky to be Born in an era when the Azzuris had quite a few quality defenders. Underrated much like Vierchwood was.
Also don't let Montero's thuggish behaviour foul you, dude was classy on the ball too.
greatmarshall: my brother penis snatching is real o i have seen where it happened with my two naked eyes... It was a lame begger too that did it, he later confessed that an alhaji sent him...
CapitalCee: Hello guys, I just arrived UK yesterday, I still don't know my way here yet. Please how can I stream our match today with Southampton. I need to know. Please guys who know should tell me
MyP2P is a good place to start. If that fails, Head to a betting shop or a Pub close by. That should do the trick
fredoooooo: Awon omomi, another point and kill joint , only the players can understand. . Chic2pimp come and see our new joint anytime you're in lag , you can always point any fish you want there believe me E yin oluwa logo
My GGGG ...I know say you dey always remember your person nah the reason we be padi be dat. Nah to enter lag scatter the whole place remain now. Oya give to them.
[quote author=fredoooooo post=60609240]Awon omomi, another point and kill joint , only the players can understand. . Chic2pimp come and see our new joint anytime you're in lag , you can always point any fish you want there believe me E yin oluwa logo [/qouote]
Ogoooooo ....My G. I know say yiu dey always remember your person . Nah to enter the place scatter am. I go holla at you anytime I dey lag no. Oya give it to them
Very smart move from Oscar. Fans would now be agitating for a rematch. A rematch means more money in the purse for Golden Boy promotions. Who says "Draws" doesn't pay eh?
A40: I know one thing for sure this might be the turning point for the season. And for my boxing niggas Afrodoc Nihilist Chic2pimp. Canelo x GGG who ya got?
I am going against the popular opinion here and saying Canelo on points. I would have said by knockdown but Triple G's chin is Superstrong. Either that or Triple G would win by Knockdown in the latter rounds when Canelo runs out of steam.
Lalas247: Hackney Lol yes Oh I'm used to their irrelevant insults lol they just extremely judgemental but you can't blame them no exposure .... still love my ppl sha Barking, Canning Town , Brixton, don't really like those areas ...
You will do well to take it with a pinch of salt. You know our people nah. Yabbing is deeply ingrained in our psyche.
Hackney ...Brixton gets a bad rep. Sometimes unjustified. Choose wisely and you really can enjoy brixton. Are you going Hackney Carnival this weekend?
Lalas247: East London Lol for example ... so I called one girl here chewing gum girls Cause she cant afford common slippers
So she looks at my nose ring and concluded I am an Obganje that type of bushery Funny enough we don't treat freshies like that over here
I am guessing either Barking/Dagenham or Hackney yh?
Hahaha . I think you must have touched a nerve. Many Nigerians are still stuck in the middle ages so no surprise there. Their archaic way of thinking lives a lot of to be desired most times tbh.
Chelseafan1: Good points, I also think most of them aren't that good looking as well, besides, this is just obvious desperation.
Salient point there "Not Good looking". Combine that with a disastrous sense of style and sometimes foul body odour and Bingo you'll have chics running a mile. It's not limited to the Gents btw.
If you are willing to bide your time and hang around the right group of friends, pulling good quality chics isn't that hard.
Chelseafan1: Last paragraph almost brought tears to my eyes, didn't she think about it happening? Btw, are there no pretty, young girls abroad to settle for rather than all these old mama wey don reach to die.
Unfortunately "Freshies" as they are called have less options unless you have something going for you. Also depends on the crowd you hang out with really.
A40: Hummels was solely responsible for Hoffenheim's two goals not even Javi. I think Carlo should start benching per phuck up and it appears that is what he did
Yh that might be the kick up the backside He needs. Or maybe He is simply missing Boateng.