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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fernando Torres Vs Robin Van Persie: Who's Better by chic2pimp(m): 1:58pm On Oct 19, 2009
ritchboy:
According to Sauron, Gerrard wont start a game for Man Utd & Chelsea. . .

Jesus Christ just had a heart-attack, someome get a medic! grin
Did he actually say that? shocked shocked shocked
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Top 11 Footballers Who Cried On The Pitch by chic2pimp(m): 1:56pm On Oct 19, 2009
^^^^ Thunder fire ya mouth cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Rate These Midfielders by chic2pimp(m): 1:55pm On Oct 19, 2009
BTW,I don't think Juninho was worldclass. Granted he was a worldclass set piece taker but as a player I don't think he was worldclass.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Ballon D'or Nominees List: Germany And Italy Ignored. by chic2pimp(m): 1:52pm On Oct 19, 2009
tayoccu:
oops! I missed it the first time,
Garri don too much grin
I told tell u stop smoking too much garri cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool Vs Lyon [1 - 2] On Tuesday 20th by chic2pimp(m): 1:51pm On Oct 19, 2009
You Will Continue Walking Alone Till Thy Kingdom Come!!!!! cool cool cool
Romance › Re: Are White Women More Faithful Than Black Women? by chic2pimp(m): 1:45pm On Oct 19, 2009
missSexy:
all black men i know that have date white chicks, they have been cheated on. a white lady, not only will she cheat, but she will cheat with your friend, your brother, , with no shame. she might even start fooling with some guy right there in front of you. if u want a 3some, just ask and she will do it, i know too many stories,
HOGWASH!!!!
TV/Movies › Re: Whos The Most Beautiful Lady In Hollywood by chic2pimp(m): 12:11pm On Oct 19, 2009
GABRIELLE UNION IS ONE PRETTY HOT CHIC

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Ballon D'or Nominees List: Germany And Italy Ignored. by chic2pimp(m): 11:52am On Oct 19, 2009
^^^^^ Franck Ribery is on the list.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Rate These Midfielders by chic2pimp(m): 11:46am On Oct 19, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757976#msg4757976 date=1255898208]He has always shown his class whenever he wears the 3 Lions shirt.
Apart from Rooney in Euro 2004, he was the best player in that tournament also.
His stint at Bayern Munich overshadowed his talents cos British pundits are narrow-minded and they cannot see beyond the EPL.
When u watch Hargo in possession, u see guile, verve and panache. Something Gerrard/Lampard lack in big games.
If we had him last season, we woulda decimated Barcelona.[/quote]British pundits are indeed very narrow minded and most of em'(a few can) can't see beyond the premier league.

Steve Mcmanaman also got the same treatment during his stint @ real madrid. Had he achieved the same feat he did @ Madrid in England he definitely woulda gotten a higher level of praise.

tayoccu:
I put it to you that Fab4, AA23 and el nino will start in the 3lions and the nazi team.

if you're basing world class status on the basis of having a starting shirt in your national team, that means you guys do not regard juninho pernabucano as a world class player (@ his peak)
As I have told em' already, their definition of the term 'World Class' is different from mine.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga by chic2pimp(m): 9:39pm On Oct 18, 2009
GAME, SET & MATCH!!!!!

MILAN 2 AS ROMA 1



Well Done Lads cool.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga by chic2pimp(m): 9:35pm On Oct 18, 2009
Thiago Silva & Sandro should better keep things tight @ the back ooo.


3Minutes Added time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga by chic2pimp(m): 9:31pm On Oct 18, 2009
dayokanu:
Is Dinho back?
Let's hope so. He loves playing against Madrid and guess who our next opponent is? grin cheesy

jalether:
Ambrossini sent off, common now ref angry
Referee hating on milan. Nothing new there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Rate These Midfielders by chic2pimp(m): 9:26pm On Oct 18, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757796#msg4757796 date=1255895686]FA cup final against West Ham?? Are you serious?
How is it different to what Fletcher did in 2004 when United destroyed Millwall FC.[/quote]Fletcher ke? undecided I thought it was Ronaldo who decimated Millwall. Btw,you can't compare WestHam to Millwall.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757796#msg4757796 date=1255895686]Load of tosh. . . . . .Gerrard dived!!![/quote]Liverpool fans and a few others would beg to differ wink cool cool

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757796#msg4757796 date=1255895686]So where was the bestest midfielder in the universe during the world cup?
When the time came for him to stand up and be counted during the shoot-out, Gerrard froze in the biggest game of his career.[/quote]So cuz Hargo had a better worldcup,he is suddenly the better player? undecided undecided

dayokanu:
I cant but agree. in Euro 2004 too Hargreaves buried his penalty despite loads of coaching from Eusebio to Ricardo.

Hargreaves learnt from the school of Hard knocks. Jeremies, Effenberg and Scholl.

Is it a coincidence that Hargreaves is the best Dead ball guy in England.
Ofcourse you will Agree with him since it conforms to your way of thinking(bloody english basher). BTW, I loved watching Mehmet Scholl play footy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga by chic2pimp(m): 9:14pm On Oct 18, 2009
GOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Leo definitely knows his Job is on the line hence the marked improvement from the performance in the first half grin.

FORZAAAAA MILANO!!!! cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fernando Torres Vs Robin Van Persie: Who's Better by chic2pimp(m): 9:09pm On Oct 18, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=9894.msg4757813#msg4757813 date=1255895921]I wasn't far from the truth when i said you don't get the true definition of a "world class player".
A world class player is actually any player that WILL walk into the starting XI of any football team in the world without sentiments.
Will Gerrard play for Barcelona? I doubt he will even find a position in Man Utd. . . .never mind Chelsea or Brazil.[/quote]If you go by your definition,Shilton was not world class cuz Zenga was No1 during that period however going by mine,he was worldclass.

dayokanu:
The way people throw the world class thing around is appalling. Like how many world class players are in the world?

In chickenshrims book, Titus Bramble is world class then Zidane, Kahn Maldini and Figo must be Heaven Class!!!
Worldclass is thrown about anyhow but Only a select few are worldclass.

Your analogy is crazy. Bramble vs Maldini is not the same as comparing Zenga to Shilton.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga by chic2pimp(m): 9:03pm On Oct 18, 2009
dayokanu:
That was a shameful dive by Nesta

Dinho scores the resultin penalty

Milan 1 Roma 1
Gerraway from hia jare. Clear Penarity grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga by chic2pimp(m): 9:01pm On Oct 18, 2009
PENALTY!!!!!!  FOUL ON SANDRO

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL DINHO 1-1 GAME ON
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga by chic2pimp(m): 8:58pm On Oct 18, 2009
Second Half is on the way,and it seems leonardo has talked some sense into them.

I'm already seeing major improvements from the first half performance. Leo definitely knows his Job is on the line and if he were to loose this match,his ass might just get fired.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fernando Torres Vs Robin Van Persie: Who's Better by chic2pimp(m): 8:53pm On Oct 18, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=9894.msg4757708#msg4757708 date=1255894381]I doubt u fully grasp the basic concept behind the word "world class".
Very soon you are going to tell us Giovinco and Balotelli are world class players.

Holler @ me when you finish smoking the joint between your fingers.[/quote]Well,it seems we both have different definitions of the word 'World Class'

My definition is someone who ranks amongst the foremost in the world or someone with an international standard of excellence.

Whatever way it look @ it, Shilton in his heydays was Definitely Worldclass
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Rate These Midfielders by chic2pimp(m): 8:44pm On Oct 18, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757621#msg4757621 date=1255893012]United players tonnes of trophies to show for their hype.
In the last 2 seasons, they have beaten all the relevant teams in Europe, they have won the UCL and they won 3 league titles in the toughest league in the world. I think they have justified the hype lavished on em. Gerrard hasn't. In the season Stevie G won the UCL, his team finished with a staggering 38 points below the league leaders. You are not a worthy champion of the UCL without winning your domestic league.[/quote]I also think Gerrard's hype is justified. He has saved his best performances for the grandest of ocassions(fa cup final & champs lge final). Bear in mind gerrard has also put in great performances for liverpool both @ home and in europe. All that remains is for him to win the premier league  trophy.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757621#msg4757621 date=1255893012]He dived to win the penalty kick. . . . .Stop saying he won it genuinely.

I don't have a problem with you rating Gerrard and Lampard ahead of Hargreaves AS LONG AS we both know you live in a parallel universe.
When the push came to a shove, Hargo showed English fans he was better than the media boys at the last world cup.
He was the best English player in Germany and when the media boys failed to bury their penalty kicks due to nerves, Hargo buried his.

If we take the Canadian roots away from Hargreaves, he woulda been the best English midfielder since Glen Hoddle.[/quote]There was certainly contact from Gattuso. Whether that contact was sufficient enough for him to go down in the manner that he did is another issue altogether.

Definitely there is no denying it,Hargo was the best english player in Germany but Is the best english Midfielder since Hoddle? undecided Not too sure about that.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fernando Torres Vs Robin Van Persie: Who's Better by chic2pimp(m): 8:30pm On Oct 18, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=9894.msg4757661#msg4757661 date=1255893689]Shilton is world class? Are you okay?
Do you know the army of world class goalies when Shilton was still active?
Was Shilton better than Walter Zenga? Dassayev? Schumacer?
How old are you, bruv?[/quote]Shilton was worldclass IMO. He was a vital cog during Notts Forest 2 sucessful campaigns in the european cup. Not forgetting he had the great Ray Clemence as his main rival for the England No1 jersey.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga by chic2pimp(m): 8:18pm On Oct 18, 2009
Yes ke.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fernando Torres Vs Robin Van Persie: Who's Better by chic2pimp(m): 8:16pm On Oct 18, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=9894.msg4757555#msg4757555 date=1255891919]Even a goat knows England have the best set of defenders in the world for the past 6 years.
However, they have no good goalie to compliment the talents they have in the defence and when the goalie is mediocre, defenders don't believe in themselves.  England's problem in tournaments is not because the defenders are shit . . . .It is because they have not been able to produce a world class goalie since Gordon Banks in the 70s[/quote]Peter Shilton was worldclass IMO. I also think injury cost england dearly in euro 2004. Nedved was my player of the tournament with Rooney second. Had those players not gotten injured,the finals might as well been Czech Republic vs England
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: French Ligue 1, Spanish La Liga, Italian Serie A, Dutch Eredivisi And Bundesliga by chic2pimp(m): 8:08pm On Oct 18, 2009
dayokanu:
Milan concedes under 4 minutes shocked shocked shocked shocked

The central defence is wack. Nesta and Silva
Gimme a break huh huh. They've actually been Milan's brightest spark this season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Rate These Midfielders by chic2pimp(m): 8:03pm On Oct 18, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757517#msg4757517 date=1255891243]So the hater was a sorceress who rewired Gerrard's brain cells to be playing rubbish?
Like i always tell you guys. . . . .Gust busting players are the most useless players on the pitch.
Of course, they get the media wankfest cos fans remember what they do while running around like a headless chicken but if you take time to analyse their productivity, they are a pile of self-service.[/quote]Gerrard is not like Tevez ya know? undecided There is actually brains behind those brawns of his. Don't let the drive, passion & heart the dude has full you guys. Some of his passes would leave you gasping. . . . . . Had Stevie G accepted Mourinho's offer to join Chelsea,I bet you won't be uttering these same words. BTW,I think you'll find the supposed wankfest is the preserve of Man united players only.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757517#msg4757517 date=1255891243]Apart from diving to win a penalty as usual . . . .Gerrard did nothing.
Didi was the main catalyst that galvanised the Liverpool midfield that was outfought in the first half.
Gerrard got the praises because he is English. QED!!! Lampard shits all over Gerrard and Owen Hargreaves makes Stevie G look like an amateur.[/quote]Gerrard was the most vital player in the liverpool team that night. Not only did he win the penalty kick that completed the comeback,he also scored the goal that proved the catalyst for the comeback. I bet you also conveniently forgot his all action display that saw him even play right back @ one point in the match. Lastly neither Lamps nor Hargo shit over Gerrard. I rate Gerrard & Lampard equally and hagreaves some way behind them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fernando Torres Vs Robin Van Persie: Who's Better by chic2pimp(m): 7:45pm On Oct 18, 2009
^^^^ I think you are doing english players an injustice. Overhyping them(as the press often does) is one thing however underrating them is just as bad.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Rate These Midfielders by chic2pimp(m): 7:35pm On Oct 18, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757442#msg4757442 date=1255889800]Inspired what? I will slap that smirk off your face you errorist.
Liverpool won the UCL because of Didi Hamann, not GERRARD. cheesy

Ladies n Gent2men, i present Stevie G(The bestest midfielder in the world against Estonia).


Count the number of times Gerrard made the wrong choice trying to find the hollywood pass in that clip.
Fabregas, Essien, Hargreaves and Arteta are all better than Stevie G(never mind the army of quality midfielders in Europe).[/quote]That video proved Zilch!!!!. It was probably done by a Hater.

How you can sit there and type Gerrard was not the main catalyst for Liverpool's comeback defies belief. Sure Didi came in and enhanced the midfield however Gerrard was the main man  cool cool cool. BTW,only Fab4 & Essien comes close to gerrard in that list of yours.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fernando Torres Vs Robin Van Persie: Who's Better by chic2pimp(m): 7:21pm On Oct 18, 2009
dayokanu:
How good was Brazilian back 4 of when they won in 1994 and 2002.

How good was the defence of Zacardo, Materrazi, Canavaro and Zambrotta. 2 or those 4 are wacked.

How good defensively is the defence of Sergio Ramos, Puyol, Marchena to win the Euro? Its the ability to play together and understand one another.

Germany with Friedrich, Metzelder and Mertersacker who aint top 8 CB pair have played a final and 3rd place in the last 2 tournament yet Bosingwa, Pepe, Carvalho fail

Back 4 is about ability to play together.
Brazil's back four in 1994 was very good. Marcio santos & Especially Aldair were class. BTW,you still shown me a country with a better back 4.

C'mon next year if both Terry & Ferdie are @ the top of their game few strikers will get any change from them which I belive might just be key.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Rate These Midfielders by chic2pimp(m): 7:12pm On Oct 18, 2009
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=289293.msg4757378#msg4757378 date=1255888513]Gerrard is nowhere near world class. . . . .
Are you people living in a parallel universe?

Stevie G is all hype, no substance.
World class players inspire their team mates to win league titles.
How can you be world class without having a league title next to your name?

World class ko, County class ni.[/quote]Nah mate Gerrard is Worldclass!!!! . He is probably the best box to box midfielder in the world and oh he also inspired his team to champions league glory.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fernando Torres Vs Robin Van Persie: Who's Better by chic2pimp(m): 6:58pm On Oct 18, 2009
dayokanu:
Are you mocking them? Did you watch the match against Ukraine? is Ferdinand part of this back 4? Glen Johnson too?
Show me a country with a better back 4. We all know Ferdinand is going through a rough patch.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester City Fan Thread!! by chic2pimp(m): 6:12pm On Oct 18, 2009
dayokanu:
The difference in City did not loose Chelsea did.

I remember the way England played against Portugal after Rooney was sent off, and how clueless they looked after Beckham copped a red against Argentina. by your theory can we assume England is shitty as well?
Dude,must you bring england into every discussion? undecided. BTW,I think england were unlucky loosing on penalties.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fernando Torres Vs Robin Van Persie: Who's Better by chic2pimp(m): 6:07pm On Oct 18, 2009
Watch out for three lions. Come next year's world cup they'll be a force to be reckoned it.

Their Back four is currently the best in international football and with hagreaves(if fit) protecting the back four,teams would find it difficult to score against them.

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