Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics In Lagos What Do You Think About The New Guidelines?? by Christlike01: 11:10am On Feb 01 |
Bigsin: I see nothing wrong with that. Yes,nothing is wrong with it. |
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Commanded Maryam To Shake The Date Tree Even During Labour Pain? by Christlike01: 10:57am On Feb 01 |
Biodun556: In the Quran, Allah instructed Maryam (Mary) to shake the trunk of a date palm tree so that fresh, ripe dates would fall for her to eat during the pains of childbirth (Surah Maryam, 19:25). This command was a miracle and a source of sustenance and comfort for her during a time of distress.
The Quranic Account The verses in Surah Maryam (Chapter 19) describe Maryam withdrawing to a remote place where the pains of labor drove her to the trunk of a palm tree. In her distress, she cried, "Oh, if only I had died before this and was something forgotten and out of sight!". A voice called out to her from below, reassuring her:
"Do not grieve! Your Lord has provided a stream at your feet. And shake the trunk of this palm tree towards you, it will drop fresh, ripe dates upon you. So eat and drink, and put your heart at ease".
Lessons and Significance This event is highlighted for several key lessons in Islam: The Importance of Effort: Even in a miraculous situation, Allah commanded Maryam, who was weak and in labor, to make a physical effort to shake the tree. This teaches the value of putting in one's effort and taking the necessary means, rather than passively waiting for a miracle.
Divine Sustenance and Trust: Allah provided for Maryam in her time of need, demonstrating His mercy and that He will not abandon those who trust in Him. Health Benefits of Dates: The instruction to eat fresh, ripe dates is seen as a divine confirmation of their nutritional value, especially for a woman who has just given birth. Dates contain easily absorbable sugars, vitamins, and minerals that help strengthen uterine muscles, aid in delivery, and prevent postpartum bleeding, which has been supported by modern medical studies. This story never happened! It is unfortunate that you guys believe it. If this were true, the “People of the Book” —the Jews and the Christians —would have recorded it — but it was not recorded anywhere, except by a man who almost always had no witness. |
Islam › Re: Why Nigerian Christians Despise Islam? by Christlike01: 10:43am On Feb 01 |
kaybeejnr: History, Power, and the Roots of Suspicion
To understand why many Nigerian Christians despise Islam, we must strip away emotion and deal with history, power, and narrative control. This is not about every Christian, and it is not about theology alone. It is about how Islam has been framed, experienced, and politicized in Nigeria over time.
First, history. Islam entered what is now Nigeria centuries before Christianity, spreading through trade, scholarship, and governance across the Sahel and the Sokoto Caliphate. Christianity, on the other hand, arrived largely through European colonialism, backed by imperial power, Western education, and missionary institutions. This difference matters. Islam is often perceived by Nigerian Christians as an older rival civilization, not just another faith. It was already governing, judging, and shaping society before colonial rule restructured the region.
Second, colonial legacy and divide-and-rule politics. British colonial administrators deliberately deepened religious and regional divisions. The North was governed indirectly through Muslim emirs, while the South was heavily Christianized and Westernized. After independence, political competition hardened these divisions. Christianity became associated with “modernity,” “education,” and “global alignment,” while Islam was portrayed—often unfairly—as resistant, traditional, and authoritarian. These stereotypes were not accidental; they were cultivated.
Third, power anxiety. In Nigeria, religion is inseparable from politics. Many Christians fear Islam not because of doctrine, but because of demographics and influence. The North is largely Muslim and numerically significant. Whenever Muslims assert political relevance—through Sharia debates, northern leadership, or public Islamic identity, it triggers fear of domination. For many Christians, Islam is not just a belief system; it is seen as a political force that could limit their freedoms.
Fourth, missionary framing and pulpits. From churches, crusades, Christian radio, and social media, Islam is often taught not as a legitimate Abrahamic faith but as a threat. It is described as violent, expansionist, anti-freedom, and oppressive to women. These ideas are repeated so often that they become “common sense,” even among Christians who have never read the Qur’an or spoken to a knowledgeable Muslim. Fear is inherited, not investigated.
Fifth, global events projected locally. Terrorism carried out by groups claiming Islam such as ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram; has been used to define Islam itself. Nigerian Christians often collapse the actions of extremist groups into the faith of over a billion people, including their Muslim neighbors. Boko Haram, in particular, traumatized Christian communities in the North and Middle Belt. Instead of separating Islam from criminal insurgency (which mainstream Muslims also suffered from), many Christians fused the two permanently in their minds.
Finally, silence versus narrative dominance. Muslims in Nigeria have historically been less aggressive in media counter-narratives compared to evangelical Christianity. While churches actively preach against Islam, many Muslims assumed coexistence would speak for itself. It didn’t. In the absence of a strong Muslim narrative, caricatures filled the vacuum.
This is where the disdain begins: not from pure theology, but from history, fear, politics, and unchallenged stories.
Theology, Double Standards, and Manufactured Moral Superiority
Beyond history and politics, Nigerian Christian hostility toward Islam is fueled by theological polemics, often shallow, selective, and deeply inconsistent. The disdain intensifies when Christianity positions itself as morally superior while refusing the same scrutiny it directs at Islam.
First, selective outrage. Nigerian Christians frequently attack Islamic law (Sharia), portraying it as barbaric, cruel, and incompatible with human rights. They cite punishments, gender roles, or apostasy laws as proof that Islam is inherently violent. Yet the same critics ignore or excuse equally harsh laws and narratives in the Bible. Capital punishment, divine violence, slavery regulations, and patriarchal norms are all present in Biblical texts. The issue is not that Christians have scripture with difficult passages, it is that many refuse to acknowledge that every ancient scripture does. Islam is condemned for verses Christians explain away in their own book.
Second, the obsession with apostasy. One of the loudest accusations is, “Islam kills those who leave the faith.” This claim is repeated endlessly in Nigerian Christian spaces with little nuance. Classical Islamic jurisprudence discusses apostasy in the context of treason during wartime and not private belief change. Modern Muslim scholarship is far from monolithic on this issue. But nuance is irrelevant to critics. Ironically, Nigerian Christianity has its own violent history: forced conversions during colonial times, social ostracization of converts, and even mob violence against alleged “blasphemers” today. The difference is that Christian violence is labeled cultural or political, while Muslim violence is labeled religious.
Third, the weaponization of women’s issues. Nigerian Christians frequently frame Islam as uniquely oppressive to women, focusing on hijab, inheritance laws, or polygyny, while ignoring the agency of Muslim women themselves. They rarely ask Muslim women what they believe. Instead, they speak for them. Meanwhile, churches promote male headship, restrict women’s leadership, and normalize emotional and economic control in marriages. Islam is condemned for visible patriarchy, while Christian patriarchy is spiritualized and sanitized.
Fourth, ignorance masquerading as confidence. Many Nigerian Christians who “hate Islam” have never read the Qur’an, never studied Islamic theology, and cannot accurately explain basic Muslim beliefs. Muhammad ﷺ is routinely insulted using medieval European polemics recycled through modern sermons. Islam is described as a “false religion” without engagement with its intellectual tradition, ethical system, or historical achievements. This is not critique; it is indoctrination.
Fifth, the savior complex. Christianity in Nigeria often operates with a psychological hierarchy: Christians are “saved,” Muslims are “lost,” and Islam is an obstacle to God’s plan. This mindset produces contempt disguised as concern. When Muslims succeed politically, culturally, or intellectually, it is seen not as coexistence but as a threat to Christian destiny. Evangelism quietly mutates into rivalry.
Finally, refusal to self-reflect. Nigerian Christianity has internal crises; corruption, prosperity gospel excesses, moral scandals, and denominational chaos. Islam becomes a convenient external enemy that distracts from internal decay. Criticizing Islam is easier than reforming the church.
The result is not honest disagreement but hardened disdain. Islam is not engaged as a faith; it is reduced to a caricature that confirms Christian self-righteousness.
Fear, Identity Insecurity, and the Battle for Cultural Dominance
At its deepest level, Nigerian Christian hostility toward Islam is not sustained by history or theology alone. It is sustained by fear; fear of loss, fear of displacement, and fear of sharing Nigeria without dominance. Until this is acknowledged, the tension will never be honestly addressed.
First, identity insecurity. In Nigeria, religion is not merely belief; it is identity, tribe, culture, and social belonging. For many Christians, especially in the South and Middle Belt, Christianity is tied to education, global relevance, and post-colonial progress. Islam, by contrast, is imagined as a force that pulls society “backward.” This binary is emotionally comforting but intellectually lazy. When Muslims assert confidence in their faith publicly, through dress, prayer, or moral boundaries; it unsettles Christians who were taught that modernization would naturally marginalize Islam. The fact that it hasn’t creates anxiety.
Second, the fear of coexistence without control. Nigerian Christianity, particularly in its evangelical and Pentecostal expressions, is expansionist by nature. Growth is celebrated, dominance is spiritualized, and numerical strength is equated with divine favor. Islam does not play by the same performative rules. It grows quietly, sustains tradition, and resists dilution. This frustrates a Christian culture accustomed to converting, absorbing, and redefining religious space. What cannot be absorbed is often demonized.
Third, political competition masked as moral concern. Debates over Sharia, northern leadership, or Muslim public influence are rarely about justice alone. They are about who defines Nigeria’s moral compass. Many Christians claim to fear “Islamization,” yet openly support Christian symbols, prayers, and preferences in public institutions. Neutrality is demanded only when Muslims benefit. This double standard exposes the issue: the problem is not religion in politics, but which religion holds influence.
Fourth, trauma weaponized into permanent hostility. Violence in Nigeria; communal clashes, terrorism, insurgency, has deeply scarred Christian communities. That pain is absolutely real and should never be dismissed. But instead of channeling grief into accountability against specific criminals, it is often redirected toward Islam itself. An entire faith becomes guilty by association. This allows rage to feel righteous and prejudice to feel justified. Healing is replaced with blame.
Fifth, the echo chamber effect. Social media, WhatsApp groups, sermons, and Christian television recycle the same narratives daily: Islam is violent, Muslims are deceptive, coexistence is impossible. Any Muslim counter-argument is dismissed as “taqiyya” (often misunderstood and misused). Dialogue is treated as betrayal. In such an environment, despising Islam becomes not just acceptable, but virtuous.
Finally, the uncomfortable truth. Many Nigerian Christians do not merely dislike Islam, they resent its resilience. Despite centuries of opposition, colonial disruption, media hostility, and global demonization, Islam remains intellectually coherent, spiritually disciplined, and socially rooted. That endurance challenges the assumption that Christianity is Nigeria’s inevitable moral endgame.
This exposition is not a plea for sympathy, nor a denial of real tensions. It is a mirror. Disdain rooted in fear, double standards, and insecurity does not weaken Islam it corrodes coexistence.
Nigeria’s problem is not that Christians and Muslims disagree. It is that too many have decided the other must be diminished for themselves to feel secure. Gibberish. Isn’t it funny that many of you Muslims still believe that, in this day and age, you can deceive people? Man, believe it or not, a house built on falsehood can never stand the test of truth, and it is only a matter of time before the house collapses. You may not care to know,but I must inform you that I actively practised Islam for well over forty years of my life. Halleluyah — The Truth eventually found me! May I refer you to Sahih Muslim 146.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics In Lagos What Do You Think About The New Guidelines?? by Christlike01: 10:20am On Feb 01 |
TechBaron: This should be discussed in your Church's WhatsApp group. I think the OP preferred a faceless platform like this one for anonymity. The church’s WhatsApp group would reveal his identity and expose his stance on the matter. |
Sports › Re: Meet 19 Year Old Jimoh Aloba, Aston Villa’s Nigerian Match Winner In Salzburg by Christlike01: 9:33am On Feb 01 |
Another fine Yoruba baller! |
Politics › Re: 2027: Peter Obi Is Lazy — Segun Showunmi by Christlike01: 9:27am On Feb 01 |
It is not about the platform or political party for Obi to win; it is about who and what he represents — he is not desirable. Even if he contests on the platform of the Democratic or Republican Party in Nigeria, he can never win. |
Politics › Re: Low VAT Doesn’t Mean Low Economic Contribution: The South East Nigeria Case by Christlike01: 8:26pm On Jan 31 |
Hmmmm… these people, sha! They always like to take the first position in everything so they can brag about it, and when it doesn’t go their way, they start giving all forms of explanations and excuses! |
Politics › Re: Who Should Receive Fela's Lifetime Grammy Award, Femi Kuti Or Seun Kuti by Christlike01: 7:58pm On Jan 31 |
Egbon Femi,of course! Seun is not that matured - e dey behave somehow. |
Politics › Re: How DSS, CDS Oloyede foiled plot To Assassinate Tinubu, Others - Premium Times by Christlike01: 11:01am On Jan 31 |
Brendaniel: What is your politics?
So Igbos going out to exercise their constitutional right is what you call meddling in your politics? Just so you know: every of your attempts to impose your political interests on us will be resisted and rejected in every part of Yorubaland. That's our politics. |
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Politics › Re: How DSS, CDS Oloyede foiled plot To Assassinate Tinubu, Others - Premium Times by Christlike01: 7:53pm On Jan 30 |
Uchesis: Oga rest. You no get talk.
Call out the Northerners for trying to kaput your messiah. At least prove that not all Southwesterners are cowards You're not making any sense! Are the coup plotters not in custody already? What can the northerners or anybody do to us? Guy, go read our well documented history — we aren't cowards like some people who take orders from one immature boy who is based in Finland! |
Politics › Re: How DSS, CDS Oloyede foiled plot To Assassinate Tinubu, Others - Premium Times by Christlike01: 7:48pm On Jan 30 |
Brendaniel: let me ask you, why did the Yorubas attack Igbos on election day? If you meddle in our politics again,you will live to remember our reaction this time around! |
Politics › Re: How DSS, CDS Oloyede foiled plot To Assassinate Tinubu, Others - Premium Times by Christlike01: 7:45pm On Jan 30 |
Just so you all know: a violent termination of Tinubu's life is the END OF NIGERIA! This is no chest-beating — Nigeria will come to a permanent end! |
Properties › Re: Finally Moved Into My First Rented House At The Age Of 46 by Christlike01: 7:31pm On Jan 30 |
God is with you, man. Don't look back — you can still do it! |
Foreign Affairs › Re: South Africa Declares Sneidman Persona Non Grata, Israel Reciprocates by Christlike01: 7:29pm On Jan 30 |
AfonjaPriest: The way to go. South Africa should P U S H Israel to the hill of perdition We, the Yoruba,love Israel. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: South Africa Declares Sneidman Persona Non Grata, Israel Reciprocates by Christlike01: 7:27pm On Jan 30 |
Shaki nse bi ora,egungun nse bi eran! Who do these southies think they are actually? I laugh! |
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Politics › Re: Stanley Amadi Arrested For Role In “Coup Plot” Against Tinubu by Christlike01: 12:55pm On Jan 30 |
They tried,they failed,they died — IBB |
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Sports › Re: Super Eagles Winger, Chukwueze Loses Mother by Christlike01: 6:06pm On Jan 29 |
May her soul rest in peace. I don't think she's that old — may be in her early sixties or even less. |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: 1000-38: Russia & Ukraine Exchange Dead Bodies Of Soldiers Killed (Photos) by Christlike01: 3:07pm On Jan 29 |
If I were Ukrainian, I would seriously question Zelensky’s leadership. How many of his relatives are among the dead bodies being exchanged right now? Must everyone else die before he becomes reasonable? Does he have to remain President of Ukraine at the expense of Ukrainian lives? People are being killed in droves, yet the comedian appears unmoved. You are hell-bent on continuing a war you can never, ever win. Is that not the definition of madness? |
Politics › Re: Protests Erupt In Anambra State Over Market Closure (Video) by Christlike01: 2:48pm On Jan 29 |
Cowards wey no fit confront their oppressors,na sitting governor dey wan fight! Na one small boy for Finland and one mentally deranged mofo dey give dem order how to live their lives — yeye people! |
Politics › Re: Faces Of Those Who Claim They Want To Rescue Nigeria! by Christlike01: 10:42am On Jan 29 |
Association of treasury looters and political jobbers! |
Politics › Re: Onitsha Main Market Is State Property, Shops Must Open On Mondays - Evarish Ubah by Christlike01: 10:28am On Jan 29 |
ZombieTAMER: It's unfortunate that dumb people lead a state like Anambra
Soludo should seek the root cause of the problem...
Igboho is walking free Fulani bandits are given peace deals everyday
only Kanu is incaserated that's evil
Soludo is a supporter of Evil Assuming, without conceding, that what you said is right, how is cutting off your own head to spite your face a logical thing to do? Do you guys even think at all? So, in your mind, you think shutting down the economy of your own region—which has no iota of effect on other Nigerians or their economic activities—will force the federal government to free Kanu? Or what exactly is your logic here? Ẹ̀pà n pa ara rẹ̀, ó ní ohun p’aja — na una sef una dey do, man! |
Crime › Re: Man Who Specializes In Robbing Hilux Arrested In Lagos, See What He Uses As Gun by Christlike01: 10:07am On Jan 29 |
Na their primary hussle na — every other thing na secondary! |
Politics › Re: Muslims Will Not Recognise Any Election Conducted By Amupitan – Sharia Council by Christlike01: 8:53pm On Jan 28 |
Clowns! Nigeria is not owned by the muslims, okay? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran FM Lists Mayhem Of Recent Terrorist Operation In Iran In Reply To US V.P by Christlike01: 7:34pm On Jan 28 |
Sundaymessi: No It seems to be that because you see Isreal in the Bible you automatically assume that it's a Christian nation! Christianity is a higher version of Judaism. The first-five books of the Bible—Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy (Torah) is the holy book of Judaism. All biblical prophets are Jews,Jesus christ inclusive,except one Arabian "prophet" who had no ancestral link with Abraham. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran FM Lists Mayhem Of Recent Terrorist Operation In Iran In Reply To US V.P by Christlike01: 7:23pm On Jan 28 |
honor4me: Because of a reason which I would not state here, I was in Israel years ago for educational purposes. The professor that took us had to look everywhere to get a church to worship in Tel Aviv but the guides told him it would be very difficult for him to get. Our excision took us to Nazareth and low and behold you would see Hijabites sister every where. There i learnt that Israelis had nothing much for Christianity. "Hijabites sister" indeed — liar! |
Islam › Re: Lessons From The Life Of Aisha (RA) by Christlike01: 2:41pm On Jan 28 |
I don’t know what to say to anyone who still chooses to be a Muslim after knowing the true character of Anobi. |
Islam › Re: Tell Why You Can't Accept Islam Personally - Mature Minds by Christlike01: 11:51am On Jan 28 |
honesttalk21: Your analogy is flawed because it mixes up cause and process. Be refers to divine command that is the cause, while clay, sperm, and clot represent stages and methods which is the process. Stating that I commanded the house to exist and that it was constructed with materials is not contradictory; it’s a more nuanced explanation. Only someone who interprets literally would see a conflict. Regarding the Spirit, the Qur’an clearly states that its nature is beyond human understanding (17:85). Limited knowledge does not equal ignorance. Lastly, I should follow your attitude from the discussion about the Trinity and indeed you only show your poiition based on misconception. The Qur’an does not provide a definition of the Trinity; it outright rejects the idea of divine plurality. Rejection is not the same as misdefinition. Having multiple descriptions does not imply contradiction, and making category errors does not demonstrate ignorance. This guy—do you even understand yourself?! Oh goodness, what sort of brazen contradiction is this? Are you even listening to yourself, man?! Haa… what kind of blind faith are you exhibiting here in the name of defending what isn’t even defensible—outright contradictions and lies! Man, you’re not making any sense at all! |