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DailyNews: I am not in support of anyone's statement or human judgment on any religious denomination, but I think, God gave us all individual wisdom and personal knowledge to know right from wrong...so let's try and use it. When your church or pastor or whatever isn't doing the right thing, pls don't defend him or your church or religion just because you belong or worship there.....that's intentional blindness and you will answer for it.

Catholics need to adopt some changes like:

1. abolition of the use of images
2. abolition of the use of relics in worship
3. being more faithful to a scapula than having faith in the living God
4. abolition of "Reverend Fathers and Reverend Sisters Must Not Marry"- they should tell Rev. Fathers to please marry....the world has evolved so much with immorality being spread here and there....on the internet, on TV adverts, Magazines, in Churches (sisters wear seductive skirts, gowns, etc), etc and it won't be as easy as before for Reverend Fathers to withstand sexual temptations.
5. and other necessary changes to make their worship more Christianly.....not saying that they aren't Christians, but most Catholic practices are still rooted on the Roman ancient practices, of which some aren't truly Christian or Christ-like.

Peace

and your reasons being? all these have been in practice for over 2000 years. and if a priest has a problem with the spread of immorality he can opt out, its not by force

imauri: you bother yourself with some one willing to draw u out for nothing ..... this guy is not interested in understanding the catholic faith, ever ask yourself y they are always at peace with them selves when they attack catholics? dont both explaining to the guy , lets keep practicing our faith...
... peace..

yes I know, but its paining me joor. I cant just come and read and go like that na..

FrancisTony: what's this one saying?

ask him oooo

nutty_hnic: I thought it was common knowledge that Roman catholic is Mystery Babylon, 'Mother of all harlots'.

Not the Antichrist, but the First Beast of Revelation that is worshipped in the end times after the Second Beast.
It's common knowledge.....the Saturday Worship which was instituted and changed by Catholics..as Daniel Prophesied..and many i cannot mention.


I mean do you guys read your history books?

In fact, the Roman catholic religion is pagan Rome in another form. The pope is a sham called "Father". Catholic Priests forgive sins which is clear blasphemy. Pope is Satan. Period.
We are all going to hell, sorry.

and he gave them the great commission, whosoever sin you forgive they are forgiven

ChickRockz: A breakthrough..that's what it amounts..I've done it so many times and i'm never disappointed..besides we do NOT bow,we kneel..ignoramus

thanks, choice of English is the problem

Toktee: Which of the convent ard u chatting from?

my father's house

Toktee: Look at you,where in the bible that honouring mary is recommended,don't even try to tell me what a woman like mary said during her visit to mary.
I recomend deuteronomy 4:13-49 and ur eyes will be wide open and iam very sure u will make haste to repent cos there is no time left,i wish u heaven at last bro.

im looking at me and Im nt seeing anything wrong. wish you heaven at last too

dejilg: It seems u haven't gone through the thread well to see how dis ur "mother myth" falls apart! If u honour mary cos she is Jesus' Mother, den why don't u also honour David??

David is being regarded as "the Highest of the kings of the Earth" and Jesus Himself says (in His Glory) "I am the root and the OFFSPRING of David" --- seems David is more important here! So why dnt u "respect and honour David too"?

we honor David in a different way, buy choosing to have our selves and our off springs bear the name David, and David is actually my favorite name.

Swiftmode: Oga, why should catholic faithfuls honour Mary? She no be GOD or JESUS!

so na only God and Jesus u su;ppose to dey honour abi? which kind leg u carry come dude?

Bulldog: i wonder why you went as far back as david you honor your mum right? why not honor her ancestors that are mostly idol worshipers? it's your type that persecute someone because of another person's sin and for your info when a blind man call jesus son of David, he didn't rebuke him and tell him that he was the son of God cos he knew he came from the line of david . It is stated in luke1:48 ...and hence all generations shall call ME blessed it still beats me why people claim to read the bible but just on the lips. First seek wisdom like solomon did and when you read the bible you'll comprehend.

the guy is just difficult, ignore him

Idi Amin: Why are we still arguing over this? Okotie is damn right simple

ok, thanks, bye!!!

dejilg: Yeah yeah! No replies! I take it. Marian Worshippers... They always need help being pointed to the Bible for truth!

the reason I CHOSE not to reply is because I don't like the direction the argument is taking. I prefer to leave you with your ideology cause you are a hard nut to crack, its either you've got a serious beef with the catholic church or something else, and I wld rather not fuel your passion for that beef and im not crying uncle YET

dejilg: Oh my! Here comes the catholicist ranting about curing someone's ignorance! Well go through more of ur priest's lies and tell us na! Somethin as "historic" as ur stations of the cross shldnt be hard to call na! Or did u forget the name of d place Jesus got crucified? Am sure u wdnt need ur priest on dat one! The fact is u catholics are not Biblical Christians but purely following ur man made church traditions! Take a step to check ur church history and see its filth!

u got issues!

Bulldog: A christian that doesn't know the significance of the holy communion is not a christian so dont call yourself that because the significance of the holy eucharist is the basis for christianity

WORD!!!!!

dejilg: Can u show us who dis people are and what they did in "the Bible". Since the Bible contains the deeds of the 1st Apostles!

guy!!!!!!!!!!!! cut us some slacks we are trying to cure your ignorance from the little we know, people like you make me wish I had a better memory on all the teachings I've gone through. my priest should be disappointed.

dejilg: Exactly, but den again, what's d significance of the "Holy Communion"?

I was taught that the sacrament of the holy Eucharist ( that's what its called) is the sacrifice of the body and blood of Christ truly present on the alter under the appearance of bread and wine and offered to God for the living and the dead.. and during the last supper, he took the bread offered thanks , took the bread, broke it and offered to his disciples saying do this in memory of me. that's what we do.

Bulldog: when people talk one rubbish or the other, they'll hinge it's authenticity on the truth is bitter. Let me tell these back biters what else is bitter to the person it's used against:
lies are bitter
blackmails are bitter
fallacy are bitter
false witness is bitter etc...
I dont judge but in this case God help me cos i'll, this fake pastor was a notorious sinner before he claimed he is called by God[that's why i ignore all these self annointed men of God]
As a pastor he has jumped from woman to woman and i think he is on his third divorce now.
He prophesied he'll be president in the previous elections, a prophesy that never came to pass uptill now.
What he is seeking for is attention hoping that Pope francis will look his way. But he has other willing souls to save. And i dont think pastor oko will survive the wrath of God if it's called upon him based on john 20.23... The bible warns us to be look out for false prophets like him in matthew 7:15 for they will rise during the end time. These man is one body with the beast prophesied in revelations 13.5 that will be allow to blasphem the name of the almighty God for forty to months. Brothers and sisters don't be perturbed by this, it's is nothing but the manifestation of the prophesys of john in revelations and that of our Lord jesus christ. The devil has been fighting the catholic church in many ways, bringing about incidence of protestanism but after suffering the blows, the body of christ, the church always manages to wax stronger. Udo diri unu.

diri kwa gi

cbrass: I don't support those churches burning incense, sometimes am confused about the catholic faith, you seem to major on the new testament but none of your ways are found there, or did peter or paul or any of the apostles pray to the dead? Or did they observe any pennants?

who prays to the dead? we don't do that probably you are talking about the saints? and we only seek for their intercession

zaza1: Chris Okotie has only said what a lot of people do not have the guts to say..the Catholic faith has some funny ways.

The bible clearly stated that no one must come to him unless through the Son.It is a trinity,the Father Son and Holy Spirit.It does not include Mary.

As someone else said Jesus came to die for us,Mary inclusive.I might not be able to boldly say a catholic who follows all ten commandments and lives a virtuous life will go to hell but I can say without a care in the world that there are some very funny things about their ways.

You can't take communion in a catholic church unless you are catholic,the political way of choosing the pope,amongst other things..let me stop here

I'm going to answer you on the communion part only. in my parish before the reception of the holy communion an announcement is made " the sacrament of the holy Eucharist is made for Catholics who are in the state of grace, visitors and non communicants should sit down and pray with us" in my catechism I was taught that he that eated and drinketh unworthy eatth and drinketh judgment to him self. so its just a check to prevent this. and I don't receive the communion when I go to other churches, I don't even go to other churches

dhensity: lol see another confused person, honour to Mary, Glory to Jesus..smh, where in d bible was Mary said 2 be honoured..in d long run u stil worshiping her...

i knw my bible was explicit about it...about making any image with the likeness of things on heaven nd on earth!!! pls open ur eyes ok

again im nt confused. when Mary went to visit Elizabeth when she was heavy with john the Baptist, the baby in her womb leaped with joy when he heard Mary's voice and then Elizabeth proclaimed "hence forth all ages shall call u blessed" its in the prayer the Catholics call the catena go look it up

Olugbenger: Interesting.

thanks!

cbrass: Honestly , all those incense you guys burn, the so called holy water, the occultic chants, the pennantsn then the worship of mary ..all this to me are rituals.. You need to give me enough bible verses to back this

and God told the prophet Elijah to sprinkle salt on water so that the water may be made holy.... I suggest you get a book on the doctrines of the catholic church and by the way almost every church burns incense but the ish is what are they burning it for? and na only u sabi the one wey be occultic chants abi u belong ni? hope u aint talking about our Latin responses

Wislet: "she was specially conceived without the original sin you and I were born with........". Huh??

Puo?

Je ne comprend.

Excusez moi?

its not rocket science

chrissy3: so honouring mary means you have to go against God's command not to make image of anything in heaven,earth and beneath the sea,you must not bow? Now mary is now 'the way the truth and the life,no one comes to the father except through her? Funny I thought that was suppose to be jesus? Listen jesus christ had to be born as human so he must be born by a human and mary was picked for reasons know to God but the name mary can easily be Martha if someone else was picked .if I ask you catholics why mary was picked you can't say and your saying honouring mary.yes you would give her respect but she has no teaching of the bible and was a vessel for the birth of christ,she is just human nothing more.

first of all, no catholic bows down to Mary quote me, what we do is call genuflecting the same you do to your obas and you chiefs and even the average elderly Yoruba man or woman you see on the street. as for Mary being the way the truth and the life you said so yourself NO catholic has ever said that, because we are sinners and have fallen short of the glory of God we go through his mother to INTERCEDE for us on our behalf. Mary was specially conceived without original sin you and i was born with, she was specially designed as the vessel to bring the savior into this world, as for the name Mary, you are right it could as well be Martha or even chrissy3, but it wasn't . and if you say she was just a human, y weren't YOU chosen to bring the savior into the world. i beg of you change you ideology about all this things. ignorance is bliss they say but it is stupid when you base your arguments on them.. have a nice day

cbrass: The man is right, atimes I wonder where in the bible this catholics see the rituals they do? Imagine. A priest saying that JESUS CHRIST was catholic.. What a blasphemy!!

probably what the supposed priest meant was that Jesus carried on like catholics do today.and please we dont do no rituals. what is wrong with you people. live and let live please.. just hush it!!!

i just don't get the beef with people and Catholics. im a proud catholic and loving it, and i seriously take no offense to whatever pastor Chris says. instead i will take an offense when someone says we aint worshiping God, where did you get such an idea from. but as a peace loving Catholic i am, i would pray for your souls and ask the good God to grant you pardon and pray its not to late for you.. peace be with you...

Graceojomasule: D origin of catholic comes frm d rome and d pple brought abt illuminatic. To me they ar nt serving God.

and you are serving God i presume? you just threw the first stone

Ken_Jak: Though the catholics are not worshipping God, they're worshipping Mary... It's not for him or anyone to judge except God cos God says in the bible, Judge not for you not to be judged.
He's wrong with his preaching.

mister you just judged too. i rather u keep quiet than say things u aint sure off. biko!!! its called HONORING Mary not Worshipping

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lol!! love the way u trying to give yourself hope. what i meant is that theer are applications avaliable to carry out all those life expectancy ratio and the rest

Adshol: you are simply buying an insurance cover and you pay your premium though, installmental.

yeah but what happens to accessing the risk?

BUT YOU SAID ITS IN CONJUCTION WITH MANSARD INSURANCE, I DOUBT MTN WILL PUT ANYTHING OUT WITHOUT PROPER CLEARANCE FROM THE INDUSTRY...AND IS IT PHONE INSURANCE OR HEALTH INSURANCE?

yeah but its LIFE insurance and that just doesn't happen. my beef with all this is that when a claim occurs and they they dont pay people start calling the insurance industry bad names and that not good cos im in the industry

Dis Guy: BUT YOU SAID ITS IN CONJUCTION WITH MANSARD INSURANCE, I DOUBT MTN WILL PUT ANYTHING OUT WITHOUT PROPER CLEARANCE FROM THE INDUSTRY...AND IS IT PHONE INSURANCE OR HEALTH INSURANCE?

botahj: @OP


In response to your post, i sought information as regards the origin and validity of the said SMS when I got it and I was told by the source whoever subscribes to the message from the network provider would have Fifteen naira deducted daily from his/her line to cover the policy as premium. Hope it helps? So be careful..

yeah but as an insurance student I was taught that there are steps before a valid insurance contract can come to place, if not there would be a problem when it comes to claims, that's in the event of a claim. I just don't agree with them they should just stop deceiving people joor and making insurance look bad.. what's the insurance commission even saying about it sef