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samuk:
Oduduwa is widely accepted today as the common ancestor of most Yoruba monarchs/people and the Oba of Benin.

Questions:

1. Are there documented historical origin of Oduduwa.

2. Is there a documented historical evidence to back up Oduduwa ancestry of the aforementioned monarchs?

3. Was Oduduwa a mythical or historical figure in Yoruba history.

4. When did Oduduwa first appear in Benin documented history?

5. Do all Yoruba monarchs accept Oduduwa ancestry.

6. Was Oduduwa story historical or a political creation to first unite the Yoruba people and then Benin and Yoruba people.

Documented historical origin of Oduduwa:


The earliest known documented history of the origin of Oduduwa was told by Sultan Bello around the years 1822 - 1824. In that narrative, Sultan Bello told the story of how early Yoruba migrated from the middle east/Saudi Arabia.

This documented historical origin of Oduduwa remain so till 1897 when the first indigenous Yoruba author Samuel Johnson in his, the history of the Yoruba, argued that Oduduwa migrated from Egypt rather than Saudi Arabia, his arguments was based on the fact that he found no evidence that Saudi Arabia had an Oduduwa in their history.

The documented origin of Oduduwa remained that he migrated from the middle east, Saudi Arabia or Egypt until the 1970s.

In the 1970s, the Benin people through their monarch told the world that Oduduwa was the banished Benin prince Ekaladerhan who found his way to Ife and established the kingdom. Benin went on to date the period to the 1100s AD.

Few decades after Benin claim of Oduduwa being a Benin prince, the first documented Yoruba account of the origin of Oduduwa outside the middle eastern countries of Saudi Arabia and Egypt appeared. From the 1990s to 2010, some Yoruba authors claimed that Oduduwa was originally a native of Ife.

For almost 200 years since the history of Oduduwa was first written down as narrated by Sultan Bello, Oduduwa was believed to have migrated from the middle east, numerous Yoruba historians, writers and authors have always traced Oduduwa to the middle east until recently.

Less than two decades after Sultan Bello narrative of Oduduwa being from the middle east a Yoruba missionary Ajayi Crowder returned to Nigeria and started his missionary works in the 1840.

Since the 1840s, the Yorubas have been writing about themselves and didn't claim Oduduwa to be a native of Ife, it will take almost 200 years before some revisionist will argue that Oduduwa was originally a native of Ife.

Documented evidence of Oduduwa ancestry of most Yoruba monarchs and Oba of Benin:


Until 1897 when the Yoruba historian Samuel Johnson wrote his, the history of the Yoruba, there was no documented earlier indigenous Yoruba account that traces all Yoruba Obas to Oduduwa.

The Ijebus is believed to have come in contact with the Europeans in the 1500s, the Alaafin of Oyo received his first European visitor in 1824 and there are hearsay European accounts of Oyo dating back to the 1700s, in all these accounts, I haven't seen any evidence were the various Yoruba tribes themselves claim Oduduwa as a common ancestor until late 1800s.

Oduduwa, a mythical or historical figure.

Early Yoruba historians such as C. C. Law in his book did confirm that there were Yoruba oral tradition that claim Oduduwa to be a myth rather than a historical figure. Their are Yoruba accounts that claimed Oduduwa to be a female deity.

Throughout the almost 200 years since the history of Oduduwa began in 1824, Oduduwa have variously been traced to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Benin prince, a native of Ife and Yoruba female deity.

When did Oduduwa first appear in Benin history

There is not a single historical evidence of Oduduwa, Oranmiyan and Ife being mentioned in the over 400 years of eyewitness documented history of Benin until the fall of the old Benin empire in 1897.

Oduduwa, Oranmiyan and Ife only appear for the first time in Benin history after the fall of Benin in 1897.


Do all Yoruba monarchs accept Oduduwa ancestry:

The Awujale of Ijebu is one of the notable Yoruba monarchs who do not subscribe to the Oduduwa/Ife common ancestry. The Awujale traces the migration of his people to Sudan.

Another notable Yoruba monarch that doesn't believe in the Oduduwa common ancestry of Yoruba Obas and people is Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan, the traditional ruler of Ugbo Kingdom, a town in Ilaje Local Government, Ondo State. He is an oil magnate and founder of Obat Oil, one of Nigeria's largest and leading privately held oil companies.

Oba Obateru argues that Oduduwa was a foreign to Ife from Benin.

Was Oduduwa story historical or a political creation to first unite the Yoruba people and then Benin and Yoruba people.

Stop pumping Obateru to buttress your misguided attacks on Yoruba ancestry. Dude is bankrupt, and he was never an 'oil magnate'

At his best he was no more than an Obasanjo proxypawn.

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Every seller on this thread dey find his own mugu

I doubt OBJ possess the capacity to father an irresponsible son like Darudapo

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