₦airaland Forum

Lifestone:
You can see yourself. It's your type of reasoning that led to the counter coup and the civil war. How can you justify the killings of Sir Ahmadu Bello, Tafawa Balewa and others?
Nnamdi Azikwe was conviently on vacation and Mike Okpara was not part of the problem. You can see that you are in no way different from the coup plotters who conviently spared their kind men by hinting them of impending coup this allowing them all to escape.
SAD

I am not justifying the reason for his death, I am trying to make an analysis of y they were targeted, that’s my views of how I think was the reason they targeted them. Especially at the heat of the western crisis which they were DIRECTLY responsible for.


If u remove sentiments did I lie?

EJEGBULEJE:
http://newsrescue.com/genesis-the-beginning-of-north-south-hausa-igbo-beef-in-nigeria/#axzz3pOkUPdIu

Are you dis Daft, read the article here,and still call it lie ...your ppl instigated the Northerners to attack them, and u were killing them in the East too....is that why you are still killing them in the East till date in the name of Biafra

The Igbos will never admit they were wrong, so no need opening thread Upandan..

Another lie exposed: and this is what you use as source: when it’s obviously lies and gaslighting:

“ Important to mention that Sardauna is often mispresented. Sardauna was not a leader of Nigeria but was only leader over the northern protectorate. So his statements were about his northern region, just as at the time Ojukwu made even more seditious statements about the eastern region he presided over. Sardauna’s utterances must be listened to in context of the then true Federation with three autonomous parts. Read more on this here.”

Observe how he tries to downplay the bad things sarduana did. at the birth of a new republic everybody is optimistic, the first thing a leader does is tu whip up ethnic sentiments and hate against others on world tv. If in Nigeria in this age, people find this clip bad, imagine the views of people from back then, in an era of ignorance.

I can say it to anybody with confidence, ojukwu said alot of things but I put it to the poster or anybody at all to mention one time ojukwu went on any interview to make any serdituous statement. The writer of the article was born in 1974, so he can’t lie and say he was alive during the war and was witnessing what was happening.

So where did he hear these seditious statements from?

Ojukwu has done many interviews which are in YouTube, anybody can judge, even at the peak of the civil war where people were dieing, he never used any bad word against anybody, neither was he seditious against any tribe.


Prove me wrong

confusedlady:
Yes, so what is the point you are trying to raise here.
Meetings of the Supreme military council were called but Odumegwu Ojukwu who as usual was stuck on his ways and agenda and refused to attend the meetings, citing security reasons. He claimed he was not safe in any part of Nigeria except the East.

I asked you a question you did not, but u are explaining like you are trying to be dodgy.

I would repeat the question, you said both sides renegaded the agreement.

I write down the agreement and told you to tell which part ojukwu renegaded on, you are yet to tell me!

EJEGBULEJE:
http://newsrescue.com/genesis-the-beginning-of-north-south-hausa-igbo-beef-in-nigeria/#axzz3pOkUPdIu

Are you dis Daft, read the article here,and still call it lie ...your ppl instigated the Northerners to attack them, and u were killing them in the East too....is that why you are still killing them in the East till date in the name of Biafra

The Igbos will never admit they were wrong, so no need opening thread Upandan..

Bro you are lying again. That link contains false narratives and propaganda.lol imagine this CLEAR LIE:

“ It is important to pint out at this juncture, that Nigeria had been very peaceful. A progressive, ethno-harmonious place, with the only riots of note being some election turmoil in the western Yoruba region of the country and Tiv riots in the Middle-Belt.”

You downplayed key things that would have exposed alot, the writer downplayed how the north had a hand in the western region crisis, tafawa balewa and Ahmadu bello to be precise. You writer downplayed how the crisis started from awolowo trying to make an alliance with the rest of the south, while akintola was trying to make an alliance with the north.
During this power struggle akintola was removed, after he is removal he went violent, after peace was restored he tried again, he went more violent the second time, despite it being an isolated incident that happened only in Lagos, tafawa balewa without due process declared state of emergency on the entire west then appointed someone to rule. During this process despite the fact that it was akintola who brought violence and destruction to the west, it was awolowo who was framed up arrested and charged for treason. Then sentenced to prison. At his absence these people did a sham election that saw Nigerias first massive rigging, violence and voters suppression and smhw same akintola that was the cause of all these carnage was put back in power, which cause major unrest in the whole west. Despite that the unrest had now spread from Lagos to the whole west tafawa balewa refused to declare a state of emergency, but declared it when it was an isolated incident in Lagos alone.

Naturally any smart person knows the whole thing was planned out.


With that look at the full details, observe how the writer from the link downplays this as much as possible and exaggerates igbo incidents.

Also it is worthy to note that after the first coup happened in the west, after akintola was killed calmness returned to the west.

I have told u before and I would say it again, everytime u bring up lies it makes anything u say look questionable.


The writer of that post doesn’t know what he is saying, that’s y majority of the rest of the article is a big lie

confusedlady:
😆 🤣 😂 lol......
You are so funny....

Stop playing the victims,pre 1967,there were killings of Ibo in the North and the Ibos equally retaliated and killed Hausa/Fulani living in the East. But as usual you will never admit this and try to play the victims.
Ojukwu was the first to instruct all the oil Companies like Shell that were based in Port Harcourt to start paying h revenue in American dollars. This led Gowon to declare total sea blockade of all access to the sea by the Navy.
As per the Aburi agreement there are a lot of write ups about it but you need to understand that Biafra and Nigeria represented by their leaders were trying to achieve the best deals for their side and obviously both parties to the agreement reneged on certain aspects of the agreement when they got back to their home Base.
I ask you what made Ojukwu declare the Biafra a sovereign nation when discussions were still going on?
What made Ojukwu tell the oil companies that the revenue should be paid to Biafra in American dollars? Was it not to procure weapons to fight a war?

Your story is not straight forward it’s only when u want to ask me questions, that u come straight.

Reason is u hv doubts in what u say.


Tell us the part ojukwu renegeded on, the agreement is here: enlighten me :
Aburi accord is as follows:
"Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence.
Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council.
The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored.[6]

pryme:
Then perhaps you should stop talking about it, anybody that in 2024 will argue that they can't vote for an Ibo man mainly because of what they did in 1962 doesn't have an argument.
I hate these politicians we have today running for President, I won't dare even think of voting any of these 3 major Candidates,

However, there is one I will vote for in a heartbeat if he ran and that person is Professor Charles Soludo, why? The proof is in the pudding. We all saw what he did at CBN, what he did as a CBN Governor no one had been able to replicate today.

So until you bring forth a candidate that is fit for the job (and don't tell me Peter Obi), you will be rejected.
This thread is unnecessary, we have a country to save.

For the first time in Nigeria’s history, we have a politician that has absolutely clean slate, a politician u cannot find cockroaches in his cupboard, a politician that corruption cannot blackmail into silence or looking away. A politician that stood at his campaign stand and said people always say politicians are not saints, but if anybody can find anything on him, he would step down his nominations as president. They searched heaven searched earth absolutely nothing.


A politician that behaves opposite to other politicians, they try to see if they could use his past affairs with women to bring him down, they searched high and low if they can find just one runs girl he has paid to just use her story, it didn’t work.

For people to look an 8years governor that was appointed by the federal government into position and say he is stingy just know he is him. People always have good things to say about politicians when they work with them, cause they know it’s share the money. This man is totally different. One of a kind and he exists in Nigeria.

He exists in igbo land, a man that does not steal, has never taken bribe. Has never used tout to disrupt any election process. That they even interrogated every single IGP or army that worked with him, just give us one thing to nail this man. They couldn’t.


At a time when Nigerians are hungry, when people are committing suicide over hunger, it’s right for me to call a man, that won’t be building VP house of 12billion while people are dying of hunger, that won’t be increasing electricity bills for people who are suffering while buying new presidential jet.
We need a president that would make civil servant, custom officers, nnpc workers, Efcc staffs, police igp etc look like normal citizens. We need a man that would mk all them say omen this man is stingy,


Not one that would tell them go and raid, destroy and extort. Na we dae power.



I didn’t call the politicians name, but anybody reading this knows him.


This man exists and people voted in someone else.


When u ask what the man offence is some will say his people did sth in 1966, another will say they did Biafra one would say he is ipob.


Just imagine

EJEGBULEJE:
Why not tell us the Coup never happened??

You keep trying to justify the crime of ur forefathers to no avail... Ppl know the truth... stop trying to justify evil..

I have said it before I have nothing against the north.

Your leader was killed you kill our own too.

It didn’t end there, you kill people that had nothing to do with it. You didn’t stop you kept on killing until the people decided to leave the country. You say come let’s settle let’s do an agreement, we go, meet, agree, shake hands and went home. You that said come let’s meet renegade on agreement we both agreed on, went to war massacred lots of our people, won the war.

I brought this for us to say the truth, talk ur own and convince me, u aren’t convincing anybody. But u are just saying am lying, even when I just proved that you are the one lying with ur photshopped pic

EJEGBULEJE:
You can read up to enlightened yourself, people witnessed this,and confirmed it...if the photo is fake prove me wrong.... Obviously you are a bias umpire.....

Even during the War, IGBO went about raping, killing,and coveting properties of Mon IGBO on the eastern region....

You can't garnish anything here, we know the truth, it's better for the Igbos to keep quiet than playing the victim card..

This is a public space, I have said this before and I would say it again. Everytime I catch you in ur lies, it makes people question the integrity of other things you said.

World judge for yourself, compare these images. If igbos were jubilation using bread labels, how come the pic they used was from a video on YouTube?

LoL


Back then nzeogwu was alive and lots of his photos would hv been existing then, but it had to be the one from a YouTube video.


People wake up lie to try to justify their actions.


The truth is coming out. I would say it again the whole bread load story thing is a BIG FALLACY

EJEGBULEJE:
If there is any apology to be made, it's the Igbos apologizing to the rest of Nigeria .

There was no beef before 1966.

If Ironsi hav taken action on the Coup plotters as advised, the counter Coup might not happen.

When you slap me,you can't determine the severity of my own counter slap..

After the first Coup, Igbo civilians trooped to the street of North, jubilating and jeering the Northerners who are still in pain of losing their leaders.

They labeled bread mocking how Nzeogwu killed Sardauna, and danced to Rex Laurence song mocking the Northerners..

What did u expect¿ Retaliation in the North,and counter retaliation in the East...

This bread picture is photoshopped, I don’t know the reason y anybody would photoshop a picture to try to stir tribal hate.


Reason I can tell you this with utmost confidence is I have watched absolutely all the single oputa panel videos existing, northerners brought the whole sink, they went as far as bringing someone who survived the eastern retaliation of the pogrom that happened in the north. If they can go as far as to locate somebody like that.

Is it this label that someone like you have that they cannot locate?

I ask you?

EJEGBULEJE:
If there is any apoliyyo ne made, it's the Igbos apologizing to the rest of Nigeria .

There was no beef before 1966.

If Ironsi hav taken action on the Coup plotters as advised, the counter Coup might not happen.

When you slap me,you can't determine the severity of my own counter slap..

After the first Coup, Igbo civilians trooped to the street of North, jubilating and jeering the Northerners who are still in pain of losing their leaders.

They labeled bread mocking how Nzeogwu killed Sardauna, and danced to Rex Laurence song mocking the Northerners..

What did u expect¿ Retaliation in the North,and counter retaliation in the East...

This part u talked about labelled bread. I would believe everything you are saying if you can give me any historical proof from anywhere, where you got the information.

I don’t deny the reaction of the igbos after the coup, but if you are sure of what you are saying, prove it.

I know that photo u put is fake, so I ask you to prove the bread loaf sth, I can tell you with confidence that the story is a lie.


If you don’t prove this it would make anything you are saying or have said before questionable.


I wait ur reply. I can say this with confidence cause I heard the rumours too but researched it and I know it’s a BIG FALLACY

I also want to address SS people too.

Igbos and all SS group might not be related but there’s no doubt that Igbos share alot of relationship with the SS.

A lot of igbo speaking tribes in the SS who deny being igbo are Igbos who were colonised by the benin.

Reason I am saying this is before the coming of the British, Igbos were a people who are known to not have kings. And existed in hamlets, until whoever gave us the igbo identity, every hamlet existed independent of each other.

Benin was a powerful empire, one of the most powerful in the south at its peak whose influence stretched all the way to Lagos.

What benin did to Igbos in the SS they also did to Yorubas in the SW, the difference is Yorubas despite the benin influence maintained their identity, y igbos in the SS lost there’s.

Reason Y Lagos was able to maintain its Yoruba identity is they didn’t view the Yoruba with hostility they allowed a live and let live attitude and as time went on they either merged or one dominated the other. This is proof on y there’s an oba of Lagos who pays homage to the oba of benin. And traces his ancestry to benin.

In the case igbo speaking people in the SS, same thing happened. The benin kingdom while expanding an trying to colonise other areas, branched in the east too, since they are trying to colonise they rule the land and are directly descended from benin and trace their ancestry to benin, but the majority of the people who they rule over are of igbo origin. Igbo had no kings had no records of invading any and or any wars, it’s not a coincidence that the indigenous people of a land answer igbo names, understand igbo language and speak a variation of igbo language. The case between Igbos speaking people in the SS and the Lagos case is that while the Lagos people don’t view other Yorubas with hostility igbo speaking people on the SS started looking at Igbos with hostility.

Igbo and benin are 2 distinct people but we form a bond where our people meet in the SS.


I know some people would read this won’t say anything reasonable but would make a foolish assertion.

This is my thinking of what happened, that’s y I see it as foolishness when I see certain SS people especially those igbo speaking ones saying or doing certain things again people related to them.

Slytiger:
Gaslighting. 😂

That is his opinion.


I don’t know who he is? I am addressing issues I know about whatever he is doing is his concern.

EJEGBULEJE:
No one was envious of the Igbo before the Coup.

Sardauna was only protecting his region with those speeches, don't forget we practice regional system.

Carrying out the Coup to put Awolowo back in Power is one of the greatest lie ever told....

The fact remains that the Igbos having dominated top echelon positions, got greedy,and want to take Power for themselves, reason Ironsi hastely abolished the regional government..

There were 2 coups, the first coup was not successful as it was stopped by aguiyi ironsi, then the second northern counter coup.

The first coup that was stopped before it could be completed, the people who were stopped from completing their plan said their original goal was to reinstate obafemi awolowo in power. That is their own story.


How does the actions of Aguiyi ironsi involve them, people cannot predict the future.

Aguiyi Ironsi did he own bad and paid dearly for it, just as Akintola, Ahmadu Bello and tafawa balewa.


When the war was over, many of the few living former Nigerian soldiers who fought for Biafra were detained by Gowon and were properly investigated, if they were investigated and tortured for years until gowon released them after appeals from world leaders, y is that till now there has not been any report on their findings disputing what they have been saying, that reinstating obafemi awolowo was their goal?

confusedlady:
@Bolded,
Are you asking me this with a straight face?
Your lies and propaganda stink to heaven.
While the Aburi issues and killings both in the North and in the East might have contributed towards the civil war,the main reason the egotistical Odumegwu Ojukwu declared war was to appropriate and dominate the minority tribes and their oil wealth. In fact Ojukwu instructed all the oil companies to pay all revenues in dollars to Biafra coffers,this is the main reason that Gowon used the Navy to blockade the sea and the reason why the coast line was a priority target of the Federal troops.

I gave you straight answers but when it was time for ur reply ur answers weren’t straight forward.

Anybody reading our posts, look at my reply to her, and look at hers which amongst the 2 of us looks like they came for truth?


Ojukwu has had many incidents where Nigerian government made promises and went back on their word. Nigerian government officials kept inviting ojukwu to different parts of Nigeria for meeting on resolving the crisis, ojukwu said he can meet on a neutral ground where his safety can be guaranteed.

They used their own hand and mouth invite person for meeting, the person honor meeting, they used their own hand make agreement, everyone settle. Immediately everyone went back home same people that called for meeting agreed refused to honour his own agreement. But it’s the fault of the person who didn’t do anything,

Igbos were not the only people killed in the north, the whole easterners were targeted, there was nothing like south east back then, ojukwu was military governor of the eastern region, so if ojukwu wants to secede his region, would ojukwu say ok as governor of eastern region I would carve out igbo land and secede with it? Does that make any sense to you?

Were the oil companies supposed to pay oil revenues in naira or Biafra pounds? At a time when war was lurking and any one of the nation can change its currency, which happened exactly as I just said?

So ojukwu was fighting a war of survival gowon own target was the oil and gas in the east?

But ojukwu is the bad person wow

confusedlady:
For a moment I thought this guy was different and wanted to write an honest treatise . I forgot that a leopard can never change its spots. It is part of their DNA.
Come OP,coldie I asked you the relationship between Nnamdi Azikiwe and Major Ifeajuna, but you conveniently refused to answer.....😆 lol....

Maybe I didn’t see it.

Can you help me answer it, it seems you know the answer

confusedlady:
😆 🤣 😂 😹....lol....
When you started this your thread,I honestly thought you were about to retrace your steps,make a clean break from the past Ibo hobby of shifting blame on other tribes while trying to play the victim. Your write up as usual was filled with the usual IPOB/Biafra propaganda/Ibo supremacist lies and innuendos. I guess it is useless to expect anything different from an Ibo man.
As usual in your tales the end beneficiary of the lopsided Ibo January 1966 coup was to be Obafemi Awolowo.(The usual Ibo victim playing).
This Awolowo as a beneficiary of the Ibo 1966 coup is just an after thought of Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna to justify their blood thirsty actions.
You also tried to play your usual victim card by claiming the arrogant and cunning Ojukwu insisted on Brigadier Ogindipe taking over when Ironsi was overthrown. So what you are implying is that Ojukwu went to war because he wanted a Yoruba man to take over from Ironsi and become the head of state. Do you see how you guys play this propaganda card.
In your opinion now,The January 1966 Ibo coup was executed because of a Yoruba man. That is to say Ifeajuna and Nzeogwu killed all the politicians and senior military men of other tribes while cunningly exempting Okpara, Azikiwe, Orizu, Ironsi and others because of AWOLOWO!
This revision of history can not work in 2024. It might have worked in the past after the civil war because other tribes Sat by while the Ibo intelligentsia like Achebe, Ekwensi and Chukwumerije put out twisted and warped versions of events while presenting the Ibo as victims.
Ibos are no victims,you are aggressors, masquerading as victims.
And while at it OP,I would like to ask you the relationship between Ifeajuna and Nnamdi Azikiwe? The answer will give you the clue to who.tipped off Azikiwe to travel out of the country a few weeks before the January 1966 coup!

I am telling you my findings, not trying to shift history.


Tell me where you think I lied.

Was awolowo not imprisoned unjustly?

Was awolowo not charged with treason unjustly?

Was the prime minister tafawa balewa and Ahmadu bellow not part of the western crisis that saw the violence and massive rigging of the western elections, while also unjustly charging an innocent man with treason and sentencing him to prison unjustly?

Did I revise this history?

Slytiger:
1. Ibos were not the only people in the army, all the counter coup consisted of Northern military officers 😂

2. Ironsi surrounded himself with his kinsmen after the coup.
At the early stage of his tenure, he appointed a three-man advisory team made up of Chief Francis Nwokedi, a Permanent Secretary, Dr. Pius Charles Nwabafor Okigbo (1924-2000) and Colonel Patrick Anwunah, who later became Chairman and Head of the Orientation Committee at that time.

He replaced the then Attorney-General and Minister of Justice, Dr. Taslim Olawale Elias (1914-1991) with Chief Gabriel Chike Michael Onyiuke (SAN), former Director, Public Prosecution, Eastern Nigeria (1960-1965) from Nimo in the present Anambra state.

3. Out of the 22 killed in the coup, only 1 was Ibo. The premier of the eastern region Michael okpara was even spared unlike the premiers of the west and north that were murdered.

4. The handing over of the government to Ironsi by Orizu (the acting president and the senate president who could have called for the formation of another civilian government).

5. The unification decree of May 1966 promulgated by Ironsi, leading to the abolition of regional system of government - Historically speaking, the West and North have always believed in the regional system of government as the best form of government for a multiethnic like Nigeria, however this was taken away by Ironsi, leading to a massive outrage and pogrom in the North. Unification decree favoured the ibos as they don't stay in their region like the others.

6. The coup plotters were kept in Jail but weren't sentenced to death.

You people should stop trying hard to revise history.

We are not fighting, my point is we igbos are nt fighting anybody, I can’t start trying to explain or trying to gas light anybody, I am simply stating my findings.

Y ironsi did the rest of what he did, I do not know.

He is not innocent too, maybe that’s what made him a target marked for death just like leaders from other regions were marked for death for their actions.


So we are all even. My point is trying to address the fact of what the leaders of western and northern region did that made them die, it’s also good u have told us what aguiyi ironsi also did to make him die.


Thanks

Slytiger:
3. Out of the 22 killed in the coup, only 1 was Ibo. The premier of the eastern region Michael okpara was even spared unlike the premiers of the west and north that were murdered.

I didn’t mention that an igbo man was killed too in the so called igbo coup, but it’s a good thing you reminded us that an igbo man was part of the casualty of what was referred to as igbo coup.

I explained what fingered the premier of northern region and western region into being targets for the coup and the prime minister too. And it was a fact that they did those things, though they didn’t deserve what happened to them.

What then should be the reason y Michael okpara that didn’t do anything against anybody should be killed?

A west north alliance lead to violence and an innocent man was unjustly charged for treason and imprisoned, and the guilty one was cleared and put in power because he supports a north west alliance.

How does Michael okpara come into play in all these when the people responsible are in the camp of the north and west?

Slytiger:
2. Ironsi surrounded himself with his kinsmen after the coup.
At the early stage of his tenure, he appointed a three-man advisory team made up of Chief Francis Nwokedi, a Permanent Secretary, Dr. Pius Charles Nwabafor Okigbo (1924-2000) and Colonel Patrick Anwunah, who later became Chairman and Head of the Orientation Committee at that time.

He replaced the then Attorney-General and Minister of Justice, Dr. Taslim Olawale Elias (1914-1991) with Chief Gabriel Chike Michael Onyiuke (SAN), former Director, Public Prosecution, Eastern Nigeria (1960-1965) from Nimo in the present Anambra state.

When I said surrounded himself with northerners, his own ADC was a northerner, there’s a reason y when they came for him in Ibadan, the officers guarding him were majorly northern officers. In an igbo majority army how then are ironsi’s guards majorly northerners?

pryme:
Igbos started the coup,
You don't blame the flood, you blame who broke the dam.

My point here is: they did wrong no doubt but when u look at the big picture of why they struck vs why the counter coup struck are igbos really the villains as Nigeria has painted us to be?

For ages the narratives has been that Igbos just masterminded wake up one day killed leaders of other regions for no reason then spared ours.

If the flood has come and gone y then is it that whenever an igbo man wants to aspire for certain positions in Nigeria, they remember the flood again. We had to address certain issue for peace and reconciliation, I don’t like how Nigeria is going.


When u talk about it they blame Igbos for the first coup, ok since others are ruling and don’t want to fix the damage they said Igbos caused y not allow Igbos fix the problem. No

Slytiger:
1. Ibos were not the only people in the army, all the counter coup consisted of Northern military officers 😂

I know u are trying to bring laughs and jokes and distract us from the facts.

Where did I say igbos were the only people in the army?

Where did I say the counter coup did not consist of northern military officers?

VinnyBaba:
Mr Coldie, long time.

I Quite agree with you that Tinibu is the Akintola of our time.

Akintola colluded with the Hausa/FULANI Political Lords to Acquire Power, thereby Putting Awolowo in prison.

If not for The Coup by Nzeogwu and Others which Murdered all his Enemies,
Awolowo would have roasted in Jail and DIE like Abiola.

Afterwards, Instead of Awolowo to Respect them, he joined Forces with Yakubu Gowon and Starved the IGBOs during the Civil war.

This is the Reason why most IGBOs came to hate Awolowo.

As a Widely Respected African Statesman, he should have remained NEUTRAL in the War, just like Nnamdi Azikiwe cleverly did.😒🙂

One day am going to join ohaneze, if our people can listen to someone like me alot would change.


Our people owe awolowo an apology. Where we are wrong on awolowo. This is the reason I don’t go all out and prefer to block Yoruba ronu people than start insulting Yoruba tribe, every era every generation an awolowo and an akintola is born, if because of an akintola u start attacking every Yorubas u would stop future awolowos from being born. To me the best way to solve Yoruba ronu issue, is with love not by hate, ignore the Yoruba ronus and shower love to the true ones for the love they show to others. Allow the hateful ones to wallow in hate.


Before I digress: y I think Igbos owe obafemi awolowo an apology:

Back then information was limited, and deep thinkers were few who think things through.

Awolowo was sent to prison and charged with treason becaue he tried to form a southern alliance which we were part of. To me this is the first apology we owe him.

Second one: people say awolowo was responsible for the starvation policy, a war without starvation policy lasted over a year we were in misery and dieing a slower death and a war that starvation policy ended sooner.

Thirdly if it was left to some people after the civil war ended it’s go fvck urself, but awolowo made sure we were given some money to stand on our feet after the war ended, sth that was eventually known as the 20pounds saga. People say 20pounds and people just think 20pounds in 20 pounds, but what actually was the value of 20pounds back in 1970. That apart I beleive sth bigger was proposed but they ended up in 20pounds.

One last thing: the fact that when igbos returned to the west, their properties and assets were preserved and returned to them.


This made me have far much more respect for him.



Chief Obafemi Awolowo, if any of ur descendants are reading this just know igbos have ur respect. Some Igbos might have other views about him but I am a true igbo man and I say this to you.

ElSudani:
What a load of nonsense.

You can dispute me, tell me where I lied, let’s go

gidgiddy:
Back in the 60's and 70's, military coups were common place. Every country in West Africa, with the exception of Cameroun, has military coup. Military coups still happen in Africa to this day

Nigeria had 7 military coups. But what I find funny is that the only coup some people remember is the January 1966 coup. It is the only coup that they gave ethnic tag

In contrast, Nigeria has honoured participants of other coups

Murtala Mohammed led a coup in that same 1966, not only did his coup not get ethnic tag, Murtala Mohammed was put on the N20 Naira note, had Airports, Highways and buildings named after him. His coup claimed over 300 lives

Coup plotters like Muhammadu Buhari, who overthrew the democratically elected government of Shagari, was elected President twice

Obasanjo who became military dictator due to the Dimka coup, and participated in Murtala Mohammeds second coup, was elected President

Nigeria has a long history of honouring coup plotters, they only remember that coup is bad when January 1966 coup is mentioned

Obasanjo is Nigerias best president.

The reason I say obasanjo being president to me is like a fulfilment of awolowo dream smhw, while Tinubu being president is A fulfilment of Akintola dream.

The energy that revolves around obasanjo is synonymous to the energy that revolves around obafemi awolowo. Awolowo to me is one of Nigerias great, if we look at the embodiment of a true Nigerian leader awolowo is him.


Truly with the actions of Tafawa balewa and npc of then, I am not surprised that he tried to make an alliance with the whole south to remove the npc from power.


I don’t know how people call sarduana of sokoto one of Nigeria’s true leaders when he was amonst the first leaders to start spreading tribalism and bigotry openly, I don’t know how people see akintola as Nigerias true leader when he is the first politician to bring violence and thuggery into politics.

Let the people judge for themselves.


As much as I respected sarduana of sokoto, he did good things for his people, but if u leave looking at Nigeria from the point of view of a northerner and look at it from the point of view of a true Nigerian.

You would know that some of the people we refer to as leaders truly aren’t.

The major reason am putting this here is am of the beleive that for Nigeria to be liberated we need to settle the differences, we don’t care where the leader of Nigeria comes from, but our issue is if the person to save Nigeria is to be an igbo man, this culture of Nigeria being suspicious of Igbos and thinking we have an agenda needs to stop, no real igbo man want to break Nigeria, even Nnamdi Kanu doesn’t beleive he can break Nigeria, today today if they say Nnamdi Kanu this is Biafra go, I bet u igbo land would empty cause alot of people know the repercussions of secession.


We igbos are not anybody’s enemies.


It saddens my heart alot, at how much Nigeria has fallen, and with the way the country is going am scared of what is to come. Imagine in your 50’s you come out to vote and people are still snatching ballot boxes, poor electricity, inflation spiralling, corruption.


I haven’t been online for some time but my frustrations made me put this here, someday anybody who asks questions would know the truth.

Even after the coup was stopped, if it was an igbo coup, since Igbos were the majority in the army as at then, y then did Major Aguiyi ironsi, surround himself with northern soldiers, if really it was an igbo agenda, won’t he surround himself with igbo officers?

The counter coup came, it was karma, do me I do you, but the following actions I think is part of what sealed Nigeria’s coffins. Nigeria owe the igbo tribe an apology, no matter how much everybody tries to deny or say otherwise.

The counter coup came, ok it’s the vengeance of the people avenging their leaders, you have killed igbo leaders and prominent men in power like igbo did yours. It didn’t stop there these people went on to start killing Igbos on the streets everywhere they could find them, alot of Igbos escaped many parts of Nigeria back to the east, no doubts northerners were killed in the east too as retaliation. What is the relationship between the easterner selling in a shop trying to feed his family and what happened in the military barracks. How Nigeria died and many nonsense started:


The reason for the first coup is explained above from my findings: the reason for the counter coup doesn’t have any reasonable explanation apart from revenge. After ironsi was killed the were to appoint a new military head as the law says, but they put the law aside and appointed a junior officer over a senior officer, ojukwu was against this, you would think ojukwu being against this is because he is supposed to be the one appointed, the answer is NO. The person that was the next ranking person after Ironsi was a westerner, they jumped over him and others and appointed Gowon who was a junior officer to them as at then. This here was what started Nigeria’s era of nepotism, where people’s rise in government isn’t done by merit but based on you coming from certain tribe or region. As the went on we went on to start seeing cases where someone who is illiterate would hold prominent government offices responsible for very important matters simply because of the tribe or region they come from.


The civil war came, we know the story, I won’t talk much in that, with my research I want to address what I found out on why the Biafran forces marched towards the west. The major reason was to capture the Nigerian capital which was Lagos at that time, cause as time went on alot of people talked about how Biafra tried to invade the west.

January 1966 coup took place that saw the deaths of prominent figures from all over Nigeria, Except the eastern region. All the coup plotters were southerners and majority were of Igbo extraction.

For decades I kept reading people make accusations and counter accusations of if it was an igbo coup or not. I decided to look deeper. My findings are as follows:

Many Nigerians don’t know this but at the time when Nigeria employed merit in alot of things, at a time when justice and fairness was the order of the day, at a time when Nigeria never spoil, when corruption was minimal, when we were able to be a prospering economy even without being an oil producing nation, Nigerians thrived but one stood out amongst all. The igbo man. This standing out brought envy, hatred and plots against the Igbos simply for just thriving in a fair system. I would explain as we go on.

The interior east was amongst the last places that education got to, northerners and westerners have been educated long before easterners. Northerners were educated in the Islamic way, whether it’s not the western or secular education, they already had the culture of learning, westerners were amongst the first to meet the British, education penetrated the west far before the east. But when education got to the east, the speed it was embraced was so much that westerners that originally were educated earlier, had to declare free education to catch up, it reached the extent that during the progroms in the north, how they identify an igbo man is speaking English. As a result of this education, it gave igbos an edge in an impartial and fair world run by the British. Many people don’t know this but before 1967 igbos/Easterners used to make up 60% of the army. This was because entry into the army in the past required that u have a certain level of education, and igbos had it in abundance then. Igbos not just made up majority in the army, Igbos held high offices in the army.

Naturally if you guys are a majority in the army and hold the major posts in the army, any thing happening in the army would involve you. The 5majors were wrong in truncating our democracy and ushering in a military regime that would cause problems down the line, but that’s a story for another day. My major work here is to explain why it might look as an igbo coup but it wasn’t intended to, they were right and they were wrong.

All the victims of the coups except the casualties like people whose wives were caught in the cross fire m, the victims smhw instigated their deaths. Though I wish it never happened.

Ahmadu bello, I support him on certain things and I am against many things he did, I support the norths stance on Nigeria not being ready for independence, I am against Ahmadu bello dividing Nigerians after independence, after independence Ahmadu bello did an interview, and he talked about igbo domination, in this interview: he says if there are 10labourers in a camp, and one is igbo, within a year the igbo man would try to emerge as head of the camp, he didn’t accuse the igbo man of trying to steal from the camp, how is an igbo man’s individual effort to succeed a bad thing according to him? This his remarks is part of what made him a target. The second one involves his participation in the western crisis. Here I would bring in Sir Akintola.

Sir Akintola was the premier of western region, at a time when they had their action group, while Obafemi awolowo was of the opinion of extending the had of the west towards the rest of the south, Akintola was of the opinion that they extend it towards the north, during this period Akintola a power tussle between akintola abd awolowo erupted and akintola ended up getting voted out of power. After he was removed from power him and his followers got violent and that was how the western crisis started. During this the federal government intervened, if u read up what I wrote above and even read up history, the antagonist here is Akintola, but what Tafawa balewa the then prime minister did was to arrest awolowo and charge him for treason, this is pure injustice. An election was done while awolowo was away and there was massive rigging, voters suppression and violence, the people that were seeing the people ontop do all those things while they followed orders were the military. And who make up majority of the military then “Igbos”. All these happened and Akintola was put back in power. This actions here was part of what I think made Akintola a target of the coup.

Sir Tafawa balewa, he was the prime minister the man at the top, tafawa balewa might be the man ontop but he was put there by Ahmadu bello, the votes that got him into power were from his npc party which was northern people party, which was the region Ahmadu bello ruled over. Tafawa balewa actions of declaring a state of emergency on the west over an isolated incident that happened only in Lagos which obafemi awolowo cried out against, his role in putting akintola back in power depute his atrocities and rigging of the western region elections, was what I think made him a target.

Sir festus Okotie eboh, back then the number one most attacked person on the media attacked by opposition [mainly the west] was festus eboh, reason is that he was the minister of finance and he was known for his extravagant lifestyle and had some corruption allegations against him, i think his name being the first poster boy for corruption was part of what made him a victim.

These above are the major victims of the 1966 coup. Everything I told you make ur personal research I can debate with anybody who thinks otherwise, make ur research and you would know they were guilty, only mistake those military officers made was taking laws into their hands.

The reason why there was no major igbo leader as victim.
Nnamdi azikiwe as at then was out of the country, Michael okpara then premier of the eastern region was not involved in the crisis. The crisis was a north/south west alliance push gone sour. So do you expect the young majors back then who thought they were fighting for Nigeria future, a future without tribalism and corruption, to just locate Sir Michael okpara and kill him for nothing just because they want the killing to be fair?

It has been said many times, it’s a fact, the coup plotters who survived said it many times, the original goal of their coup was to put Obafemi awolowo back in power, if this was an igbo agenda y would they go through such stress to put a non igbo into power? The major things those young military officers did back then was:
Taking matters into their hands, which was a big mistake, another mistake they did was killing, arresting the leaders should have been the last resort, but resorting to killing is what made things worst.

Say the truth?

I have been making alot of reflections about Nigeria, its direction and what the future holds for the country.

I will use the opportunity to talk about alot of characters, I am of the igbo tribe, I would say what we did well and what we did not do well, and I would talk about others too.

Nigeria is currently in shambles, some days ago a matured man who visited Nigeria told me, we are currently enjoying. I looked at him as the enemy, cause for him to say we are enjoying at a time when people are in agony and poverty, to the extent that people started taking their lives. He explained to me, and gave context to his comment Nigerians are enjoying. What he explained was that:

“In the early 2000’s Nigerians thought they were suffering, African china was singing lead us well and food no dae. This is 2024 and the situation is 50times worst than the early 2000’s and Idris Abdulkareem is singing ebi pawa lokan, in the next 20years when he comes Nigeria would have gotten 100times worst, it would reach a situation where the suffering maybe in 2050, would make what we are suffering in 2024 look like enjoyment”.


I settled down sat back and thought about what he said, his words kept giving me sleepless nights as u thought about not just myself, but my family. I started looking for answers on how we got here.


Nigeria is dying, Apc or Tinubu cannot save Nigeria, Tinubu is here to do the ceremonials of saying he achieved his ambition of being Nigerian president. Not much would change under Tinubu government. Reason not much would change is that Tinubu government is not divine. You can’t come to power, on the back of bloodshed, corruption, hate, tribalism, division and bigotry like never seen before in Nigeria’s history and expect to succeed.


There’s a reason under Tinubu government, after he took power, was a coup happened in Niger, there’s a reason why it was under his tenure as ecowas president 3Nations broke out of Ecowas. There’s a reason all of a sudden companies that have been through heaven and hell in Nigeria for decades from military to civilian governments, yet they started leaving during his tenure. It’s because his government is not divine.


Obasanjo is the best President Nigeria ever had, Obasanjo is the Awolowo of his time, I think Tinubu is the Akintola of his time.

I would explain this in the next write up where u go into what really happened in 1966 and Nigeria after it. I would try my best to be absolutely unbiased.

SmartPolician:
Most Nigerians are opportunistic, hypocritical and dubious. 98% of Nigerians fall into one or more of these categories.

If Efcc that’s supposed to be fighting corruption can have armed robbers who would breakdown ur door at night, slap ur wife or gf, flog people with cutlass, pack what they can and even pack u join to their office and tell you to write statement that you are a yahoo boy before you bail yourself.

enemachris:
You don't know how painful it is until you become victim.

The psychology of rolling in the mud makes no sense.

It’s just like someone stripping naked cause they are unhappy

The civil war is the cause of these erosion. The damages from bombardments weren’t remedied. The aftermath is the erosions of this magnitude u see today

flokii:
South Africa still doesn't come close... you're fascinated about the digitalized election process, I understand.
Their popultion there is about 64 million while Nigeria's population is about 232 million

This makes no sense.

Even with the huge population, South Africa voters turnout and that of Nigeria is almost the same.

Even with that, with the fact that they had similar voting strength, Nigeria election budget was double that is South Africa.