₦airaland Forum

Igboid:
What's happening in Katsina.
I have been there before.
There is nothing there.

I was in Funtua on my way to Sokoto. Nnaa, if you see the flood of almajiri that rushed our vehicle o!
Don't kid yourself. They don't have it better there.

Dont use almajiri as a yardstick to know if the north is doing well. For your own good o.


U can't compare people in the north called almajiri who are poor by choice, to our people who are not poor by choice but due to circumstances.

The moment the almajiri system gets reformed u might get surprised that northern leaders didnt fail them its actually ours who did.

Igboid:
We want more than bragging rights.
If bragging rights is all enough to make Ijaws happy, then good for them.
We are Igbos. We know we deserve more and will not settle for less.

If presidency is bragging rights, why then do u cry about marginalization?

MuchAdo:
Majority of you are not sure what you want.

We can't take chances. Sorry.

I have told u, anytime u are discussing with any igbo person be it online or offline, the moment he shows support for ipob or Biafra. Dont take him serious

Igboid:
We helped GEJ become President and we don't see how his presidency helped local fishermen in Ogbia.
Their water is still polluted and they can't even afford clean water, despite being surrounded by water.
Nigerian presidency apart from helping commoners win inter tribal banters, seem almost useless.
Look at the hordes of almajiris trooping from North to South.
Northern presidency failed those kids.

Foolishness is when u think because the prodigal son lavished the wealth given to him, u should not be given your own chance to try.

If u go to Katsina right now I dont think u would be saying this rubbish.

Gej till today he is living with regrets and frustration.

Somebody that served as President for 6years but couldn't fix the road to his house in bayelsa is the one u are using as yardstick on y u don't need presidency... LoL

senatordave1:
I lived and traversed igboland.you cannot outnumber the yorubas.the only igbos that still care about having more kids are ebonyi and Enugu to an extent

Ebonyi to be particular.

Because of their agrarian nature.

MuchAdo:
All that is irrelevant now.

Nevertheless, Igbos bought into GEJ after Yorubas via Obasanjo and the Save Nigeria Group got him installed as acting president. We also supported his fresh term bid in 2011.

Also, if presidency doesn't benefit the holder's tribe, why are Igbos clamoring for 2023 presidency/vice

We want presidency don't mind that other guy. Don't take anybody who supports Biafra's opinion serious when discussing igbo issues

Igboid:
For bragging rights.

We mostly want Biafra. Do a survey in Igboland and ask us to choose between Nigerian presidency and Biafra, many would choose both as they are not mutually exclusive.
But most would prefer Biafra if we must pick one.

I swear if I wasnt Igbo I would be supporting Biafra. A lot of our people are too far gone and e go do una like film for eye

Igboid:
Imo has big gas reserve, likewise Anambra.
Ebonyi is blessed with solid mineral resources, and fertile lands.

Enugu would have to get more innovative leaders, leverage on its real estate sector, and try to develop the Emene industrial estate more.

All these things are speculations.

If the east has all these things as u said, what's stopping our leaders from harnessing it?

Has anyone stooped Enugu govt from doing whatever with the emene industrial layout?

Has anyone stoped IMO or Anambra from utilizing it's huge gas reserves if really it exists?

Has anyone stoped ebonyi from exploiting its minerals?

The excuse sounds very lame

Igboid:
That's the point.
Igbo man does not think about what others are doing or not doing, whether they failed or succeeded.
He just says what he wants and would pursue, and others start saying he is trying to insult them or act haughty.
I didn't say anything about other groups human resources.
I'm only focused about Igbo human resources, but see how you are trying to twist my words

I am saying. The population does not matter, we should try and work together with other tribes

hammerP:
IGBO HAVE ENOUGH OIL, GAS, GOLD, COAL, LAND ETC.

THE AREAS THAT PRODUCE OIL WILL BE SPECIALIST AREA AND THEIR OIL IS FOR THEM.

THE REST OF US WILL HAVE TO TRADE AND STUDY A SPECIALITY LIKE ENGINEERING AND MEDICINE TO GAIN OUR OWN INDUSTRY.

IGBO PEOPLE ARE NOT LAZY DEPENDING ON HAND OUT.

YOU MENTALITY IS A TYPICAL NIGERIA LAZY YOUTH THINKING.

IJAW HAVE OIL, LET US GO THERE AND COMMIT GENOCIDE IN ODI AND AFTER THAT TAKE THEIR OIL, SO WE DO NOTHING.


PACK UP ALL THE INDUSTRIES, WE WILL NOW IMPORT EVERYTHING. ALMAJIRI THINKING.

Saying all these things u keep shooting urself on the foot. Is there anything stopping u right now from engaging in ur trade or area of speciality?

I ask u?

If ijaw have oil and odi happened, how does it concern u an igbo man from Enugu?

U and I know that pack up all the industries and import everything is not caused by almajiri its caused by we igbos.

Y do u think we are the largest importer's, yet industries and companies are very scarce in igbo land.

Its almajiri that stopped rice importation.

If them leave Anambra business men they are ready to import everything down to the last grain of sand.

Biafra no go easy o...lol

Igboid:
Educated and resourceful population counts.

Which tribe does not have educated and resourceful population?

senatordave1:
Can you claim that the difference between Hausas and igbos will still be less than a million? Why can't you agree to simple facts? The Igbo ethnicity is becoming highly modernized and civilized,no one is in a hurry to get married.you cannot be more than a tribe that has millions of people practicing polygamy.

Fact

hammerP:
THANK YOU FOR THIS WORD OF WISDOM.

THIS IS WHERE BIAFRA ENTERS THE DISCUSSSION.

WE ARE UNABLE TO STRUCTURE AND CARE FOR OUR POPULATION IN A COUNTRY LIKE NIGERIA, WITH TRIBALISM AND MARGINALISATION.

THEY TAKE OUR RESOURCES AND SHARE IT TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY BUT NEVER SHARE THE PROCEEDS OF THEIR OWN RESOURCES WITH US.

THEY ARE MINING GOLD IN THE NORTH AND KEEPING THE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET.

WE BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE TAKE THE RESOURCES ON THEIR LAND AND PLAN THEIR FUTURE.


THE RESOURCES IN BAYELSA BELONG TO THE PEOPLE OF BAYELSA.

Seriously do u think before u talk?

If in Nigeria do u think if they decide to do every region control your resources 100% and pay tax to the fg, we igbos will be at the loosing end?

If bayelsa starts controlling its resources, how do u think states like ebonyi and Enugu without oil will run?

Even IMO and abia are marginal producers so their production can't be banked on.

How will the SE survive?

U people are so much in a hurry that u are willing to commit suicide to spite I dont know if its Nigeria or the north

Igboid:
Igbo is still Igbo, yesterday, today and tomorrow.
That you falsified things and refuse to live in truth to suppress the Igbo, does not stop the Igbo from being Igbo.
We remain Ndiigbo , and our time will still come again. Hopefully in an independent Igbo republic.

Our time will come but not in an independent igbo republic.

U know the population does not count, what counts is your ability to build bridges with others to accomplishe a particular objective

hammerP:
ALWAYS TELL YOURSELF THE TRUTH.

NIGERIA NEEDS IT TO BLOSSOM.


IS THERE COAL IN ENUGU?

IS THERE GAS PLANT IN IMO? GAS IN ANAMBRA, IS RUMOURED TO BE THE LARGEST IN AFRICA

DO WE HAVE OIL IN ALL THE 5 SOUTH EAST STATES, RIVERS AND ANIOMA INCLUDED?


IS THERE GOLD IN EBONYI?


LEARN TO TELL THE TRUTH.

Fantasy o, until Biafra comes and u find out grass is always greener on the other side till u get there.

U want to seceed and your fall back plan is based on rumours lol...

My brother u would be disappointed.

In developed countries, they are trying to organize themselves so they can manage their population, country like China with over 1billion people, is sending their population to different countries to establish bases there.

At a point in time China adopted the one child policy. Its hard to see a couple in China with more than 4kids.

But in Nigeria, born enough children, give them voters card to be voting in useless leaders and be boasting we have more population than u.

One quarter of the population is seating down on the road begging everyday, another quarter is in different prisons either in Nigeria or abroad with more waiting to join them soon, another quarter is 30years and jobless.

Instead of to take care of our population we are here looking for how to make more.

Moneywomen17:
With a difference of 400 thousand in 1952. Ibos tell me again what is ibo casualty during Biafra war. I get am before no be property right now yoruba have a higher population than ibo.

See the kind thing, u dae count as achievements.

No wonder Africa is very much backwards

MuchAdo:
When registering for PVC, they collect your state and local government of origin.

Same goes for BVN and NIN registration.

So how won't they have an idea of ethnic group population

This can't be used as yardstick.

Me I dont have neither PVC nor Nin

hammerP:
CURRENTLY, THEIR IS TALK THAT THE PRESIDENT OF GABON IS IGBO.

ONLY GOD CAN DO ALL THIS.

IT IS GOD DOING.

WEN GOD BLESS U, U ARE BLESSED.

DID U KNOW THAT IGBO LAND IS THE ONLY PLACE U FIND, OIL, COAL AND GAS IN ONE PLACE.

NOWHERE ELSE.

Stop fantasizing.

U end up disgracing our tribe

senatordave1:
Igbos are a loud majority.igbos are not the largest settler population in akwa cross

This I disagree

senatordave1:
I disagree

I second.

The next population census will really do us a big disfavor. When the southeast zone becomes the region with the least population

gidgiddy:
So it is in our interest as Igbos to remain part of the failed country called Nigeria which has become poverty capital of the world and home of terrorism in Africa?

If not for the fact that I am Igbo, and I am part of the Biafra. If maybe I was from another region. I for support Biafra pass Nnamdi KANU.

Our people are extremely annoying.

I hope one day we will change from our annoying ways

hammerP:
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That 2 to 3 million Biafra war is not an excuse.


We lost far more to the transatlantic slave trade.

The point is Igbo had already established a massive population capable of multiplying quickly.

And one of our women after the Biafra war had at least 9 children.

It is recently that we cut it down to 4 or 5.


Even in your south west, if u check every state, Igbo are the second largest group.

Try to tell yourself the truth o

rummmy:
South West is the zone with the smallest population,imagine south east with Ibibio,ijaws put together....those fallen demons will never see peace with all this their fake statistics recently

Right now u can't compare the population of the south west to the east.
They have doubled

hammerP:
Coldie do u know that if Yoruba left Nigeria today, that Igbos will agree to stay with the North in One Nigeria?

Before the Lagos Protectorate was added to Nigeria, Igbos practically begged the North to stay in the newly amalgamated Nigeria. (southern and northern protectorate)

I stand to be corrected on the above by historians here.


Wat am saying is that Igbo are not scared of anybody in Nigeria.


Even the influx of Northerners to the South, if u notice the Igbos are calm about it whilst the SS and SW ARE FREAKING OUT.

Igbos go to the North to live and trade with Fulani, even buy house, land and property. Some even end up marrying them there.

Yoruba have fear and will not be able to stay without Igbos.

This is y Igbo are the pillars of this nation Nigeria.

U weren't able to give me a concrete reasonable explanation. All these things u just said are speculations, u dont know that no matter what happens the right negotiations between the west and the north and the south south, and Nigeria will continue.

Imagine if they negotiate that since the southeast is no more, all the federal allocations that was supposed to be given to the south east will be shared by the remaining southern states, Lagos state will be given special status like Abuja. While finally they accent to the Niger delta cry of resource control by maybe increasing the 13% to 25%...

And they all agree, won't we be at the loosing end here?

From the moment Biafra is declared automatically those Biafrans wherever they are become foreigners, a lot of jobs, businesses, etc would be lost. Then we will be in Biafra looking at each other, then when the billionaire Lagos business man that had to close shop because the business he is running is reserved for Nigerians then when he returns to Biafra and start looking at ur face. That time una eye go clear

hammerP:
Go and read things fall apart and when the center can no longer hold.

Yoruba that we will like to datch the North, will most likely exit to Oduduwa.

The middle belt will start calling for independence from the North or fight war of independence with them.

The pillar holding Nigeria is Igbo, once that is gone, nothing is left.

Oil and gas money gone.

What's your game?

Your business shouldn't be middle belt or Yoruba's your business should be Biafra. Leave them to fight their fight.

What if u are wrong, and once Biafra seceeds the Yoruba's refuse to...

I guess u will say they betrayed u the second time?

Look at Benin republic and Togo despite the fact that they are coastal countries, they are larger in land mass than Biafra they are SUFFERING in fact Benin republics economy is heavily dependent on Nigeria.

Just the border closure their economy suffered. Then imagine what will become in A Biafran scenario

hammerP:
Listen, once Igbo leave their shall be no Nigeria.

No funds to run One Nigeria budget.

Biafra is leaving with that.

Explain to me how u got this analysis.



If with everything Nigeria has to offer our economy isn't that strong do u think it will change over night once Biafra comes, when all those benefits are no more?

hammerP:
I find this remark very belittling and insulting.

Actually, we are throwing away our population in Nigeria, IPOB want to concentrate them on Igbo land.

With that population, no excuse going anywhere else.

People should be coming to us.

We can have several cities and market.

Seriously I used to have the beleief until I settled down to do an Indept research of everything. I repeat everything.

The only thing Biafra will give us is that we will become Biafran passport holders nothing more.

After Biafra comes I assure u chaos won't take time before it errupts, because our people would have found out that they have been lied to the whole time, that its not what they pictured.

I am telling u this take it from me, after Biafra comes there would be a mass expropriation of lands and it would then be redistributed.

This would lead to a lot of problems and Nigeria will make sure we are trapped inside Biafra as we face our problems since we said we wanted to leave.

The Biafran economy will be heavily dependent on the Nigerian economy, so much that at a particular time the Naira will become the currency in circulation while the Biafran currency is second.

I am telling u a full blown analysis.


Theres a particular information I dont want to relay here since its a public forum. But as igbo to Igbo I beg u quit the pursuit

I have a perfect plan that will grant us access to the sea, and develop a viable port, but it involves an igbo president to make it happen.

We need Nigeria for a lot

hammerP:
Pazienza this ancient map is not wrong.

Everything is exactly as it said it is.

Its in our interest as igbos not to make the mistake of seceding, we will regret our actions

hammerP:
THE FACT IS, IGBO WERE MORE THAN YORUBA BEFORE AND ARE STILL MORE THAN THEM TODAY.


IF THEY LIKE, LET THEM KEEP LOOKING FOR IGBOS THAT DENY, IT CHANGES NOTHING, WE ARE MORE THAN THEM.


NO AMOUNT OF FRAUDULENT BUHARI GOV DATA CAN CHANGE THE FACTS ON GROUND.


IGBO IS THE MOST POPULOUS TRIBE IN NIGERIA TODAY.


NIGERIA BELONGS TO US.

This is one of the reasons why I always have issues with both my fellow igbos and ipob.

You guys beleive too much in fantasy.

Right now Igbo's are no longer the most populated tribe in the south, the North's population has tripled ours just increased a little.

A large population of us died during the war reducing our population even more. While the few that remained a lot left the country. Igbos have the highest number of Nigerians in diaspora.

Little by little we are becoming a minority.

We need to absorb the almajiris from the north into our region, we need to look for a way to acculturate them into our tribe.

I have a perfect plan for the acculturation