₦airaland Forum

selemempe:
help me tell commentor...he has just been commenting rubbish here since

I saw 1983, even as a child.

There are more people in middle class today than back then.

Ajegunle was a complete pig sty and telephones were for the rich.

There was no Magodo, Egbeda, Lekki or Ajah.

So what exactly is your point?

tommy589:
New York times '83 report was different from how government impacted on lives of average Nigerians then.
As bad as it was, Nigerians bought mainly mint cars and can get on hire purchase, no state government was owning salaries, luncheon vouchers and travellers cheques were recognised form of payment,an average Nigerian can afford basic food needs like milk,geisha,sardine etc without breaking sweat, public schools with expatriate teachers etc

You mean the elites in the cities.

How many mint cars were bought in Nkpor or Ekpoma?

Is the Nigerian not a corrupt being?

Why do you demand Angels when you are a demon?

selemempe:
if buhari didn't truncate the gains of 1970s by instituting tyranny, we would not have had Abacha, ibb and the unfortunate events of June 12 which saw Nigeria sanctioned by Europe and America and chaos unleashed everywhere. We would have had 41 years of democracy which could potentially mean that by now all major zones of Nigeria would have produced president and agitations would have reduced. there would have been Balance of strength between the north and south. We would have had 19 strong states.

Was it not eventually a democratic government led by Obasanjo and ngozi okonjo that saw those 1980s debts cleared.

Tell us what exactly buhari achieved by overthrowing shagari.

Nigeria paid up because, a new vista on global economics was taking place - globalisation.

Tell us what Eduardo dos Santos, a democratically elected president has done for Angola.

selemempe:
shagari was a democratically elected government....if he failed... you remove him through the ballot...

How do you remove a failed military government....yea...the type that Abacha, ibb and buhari turned out to be?

He was a legitimate institution that shouldn't have been tampered with... how do you not know this?

The premise here is that they Nigeria would have been better for it, and that I strongly disagree with.

All the negatives of today's democracy were evident at the time and so I ask what is your grouse?

selemempe:
you still don't get the point...I wrote in my first post that the momentum of the 70s were not maintained by buhari, ibb and Abacha....I don't care who started the momentum...but I am sure that had it been maintained by these three in the 80s and 90s or had they left shagari alone, we won't be this bad now

Before you proceed tell us what Shagari's legacy was.

selemempe:
but it was in those 70s that the following was done

1. Establishment of NNPC with 4 refineries
2. Building of high ways
3. Establishment of many federal universities
4 Nitel, NEPA,
5. Abuja
6. 19 viable states
7. Enthronement of merit in public service
8. Unity schools
9. Nysc
A whole lot of other progressive establishments.

What do we have now? 36 states that can't pay salaries or minimum wage

Who is talking about the 70's?

We are talking about Nigeria's situation just before military intervention.

In any case, those positives you posted above were from the same military headed by the same people you castigated earlier - Obasanjo and Buhari.

Primitive People.

selemempe:
lol... developed countries are too busy doing them to care a shít about what you are doing in your own country

Most Americans have never left America because really what is out there that ain't in America?

Nigeria could have been like that too if the momentum of the 70s were maintained by buhari, Abacha and ibb...the three menaces that killed Nigeria

Sad is that one of them is still calling the shot today because some people felt 'marginalised' by PDP

Most people from Botswana, Namibia and SA have also not bothered about any other countries...they are busy developing their space.

We can't even get basic legislations like state police passed because some people are afraid they can no longer do any how in the south...sad

What momentum are you talking about?

In 1983, when the military took over Nigeria was at its worst ever.

From the New York Times of May, 1983:

The most recent figures for Nigeria's cash reserves, for January of this year, were $1.3 billion - enough to finance only about a month of imports - and some analysts believe that reserves have dwindled to virtually nothing in the few months since then. Different Approaches


https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/02/business/nigeria-faces-debt-problems.html

America once claimed the Taliban were the most dangerous terrorist group in the world but just this week both parties signed an agreement.

Wendell Simlin, sometime ago you stole someone's identity in the bid to indict The former CBN Governor Sanusi.

Can't you stick to one story?

By the way, I thought you said you wouldn't comment on Nigerian issues again.

Too many idiots on Nairaland.

In whose interest do you oppose or even poopoo El-Rufai's suggestion?

Do you really want a country of peace or does the constant bickering give you a hard on?

StrikeBack:
Voting the same corrupt set if thieves again.

Same APC/PDP

We dont ever learn in this country

Why not offer yourself for public office?

ChevKing:
Is London the only major city in UK?
Are you aware they are also getting London licence?

Commenting to show you can talk without knowledge is folly.

Just as London is not the only city in Uk, Lagos also is not the only city in Nigeria.

I can also tell you several other cities they don't operate in viz Plymouth, Bournemouth, Brighton, Croydon, all in the Southeast except for Plymouth in the Southwest.

So why must Lagos adopt what several cities in the UK you've used as an example refuse them?

Are you aware it only operates outside London?

If you are aware, why aren't you challenging them for not allowing operation in London?

Okoroawusa:
PDP n IPOB una go tire o!

It's funny, but the US intelligence community rejects him on the basis of his inexperience.

He is only in this role as a caretaker for a maximum of 90 days.

IPOB can keep clutching at straws.

It is the story of Nigeria.

Not only that, it is an indictment of the citizens.

Bribery is rife and condoned,

Violent crimes are commonplace, counterfeiting of medicines is a 'business's for some and low levels of servicing of transport is witnessed.

Who is to blame if not you and I?

Are we talking about this caretaker chief of intelligence?

The dimwit is only there in the interim and should his name be forwarded to the House, he would be roundly dismissed.

Trump put a failed associate as a stop gap.

abercrombie:
las las i must leave this shith0le...

But your parents would be here.

Davash222:
I just told you what I support and you still saying I wouldn’t be able to say it.

Free your conscience, mate.

Stop trying to get me into your camp.

It would not work.

You can continue your support for Boko Haram but the rest of the Nigerian population would continue our support for the Nigerian Armed Forces.

We shall conquer your group.

Davash222:
I support any move to eradicate incompetent cabinet members.

I knew you wouldn't be able to say it.

You are a Boko Haram supporter.

Next!!

Davash222:
Why are you at war with your conscience?

I support the Nigerian military wholeheartedly.

State today, whom you support.

I'm sure you cannot say it.

Davash222:
Nice one

Support Boko Haram whilst we would support our Nigerian Armed Forces.

The solution, in my opinion, is for us to ensure that the teeming unemployed youths that we have in this country are employed – a sizeable number of them are given employments. the government must live up to expectation. For example, the local government system is dead. If we revive the local government system, that a local government chairman can award contracts, build structures, build roads linking communities, build bridges, provide for the markets and can employ, I can tell you that it will reduce insurgency. This is because the market for insurgents is so huge in Nigeria

Donald Duke was amongst the first leaders to stifle the local governments in his state.

ican2020:
For ones, shut up and use your brain

So you dont know the word "once"?

Little wonder you are am IPOB member.

Insectkiller:
Mr Minister Hadi sirika..d name sound erratic.

If not for political and tribalistic and nepotistic sake, how could a person like Hadi sirika become an aviation Minister in Naija..

Naija

Hadi Sirika is a former airline pilot.

Anambra state should have adhered to the rule of law.

Evil minds abound in Aftica.

SarkinYarki:
Placing order in is different from buying ..there is no way you can buy 50 brand Airbus outright and put it in the Nigerian domestic market except he plans them for another ..A220 is a short haul sub regional jet suited for domestic operations and I don't see how you can recoup such an investment in Nigeria ..

Did he seek your consent?