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Dis Guy:
Whats the big deal,

Bombs go off in the Presidents Hometown, No Arrest, No comment, No blinking--share the cake

Gas flaring is a thing of the past, the president now lives in Abuja far away from the troubles

Baaad guy

Beaf:
Lets not take leave of common sense. How many resigned in Spain because of ETA, or in Northern Ireland because of the IRA?
You are asking that the security forces be retrained and modernised. Do you think such happens in a day? Or do you think our security decay started yesterday?

So many inputs are so simplistic it beggars belief.

You are the one not using common sense.

ETA & IRA were at war with the state and were clearly defined enemies. . .ditto Al Qaeda vs USA . In all cases many arrests and convictions occured (& are still occuring).

Who is responsible for these bombings? Has anyone of note being arrested ?

How common sense eludes ethnic bigots beats me !

This has nothing to do with Ijaw president but with SYSTEMIC ACCOUNTABILITY . . . .duh ! No one is sayng security problems started today,but when people begin to blow up mammy markets with reckless abandon,we need to review how we do things.

Always defending mediocrity in the name of federal character. thats why we do not have stable power,ever falling security levels and low life expectancy .

Stop seeing any criticism as an attack on Goodluck.

Wake up !

Anyim is cool IMO,but he needs to lose weight o !

His neck is a wide as the diameter of a minibus extra tyre 

All I see here is the ineptitude of the security forces. From the police,SSS to the armed forces.

The horrible leaders we've had ,have spent all the money on peppersoup and personal gain.

Little or no investment in modern security surveillance equipment training.

How can bombs continue to go off in a supposedly 'non-failed state' and the Inspector General of Police hasn't resigned or being fired ?

Really sad indeed.

vedaxcool:
^^^^^
I knew that would strike pains -have some panadol- in your hypocritical heart. I am loving it

Pain ke ?

Abi olofo ni e ni ?

Nothing gives me more pleasure than exposing hypocritical wan.kers like you

vedaxcool:
A short story on Sense;
A man that watches P***g**phy on his friends Laptop comes to a forum to give advise to others on how to priorities the use of their own time by talking of how oduduwa died as if that makes any form of difference, since this things where not written, anyway he should award himself his gift if he finds his questions important.

Even shorter story on Non-sense

A wan.ker that strokes himself every half hour and pretends to be a 'holy mohammedan' 

Always churning out hypocrisy at every turn.

Denying his roots in search of some holy grail in arabland 

F**king pretender 

[flash=400,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwBBDpiuzaM?fs=1&hl=en_GB"[/flash]

Arab tales by moolight again 

How did Oduduwa die?

What is the name of Oba Kosoko's mother ?

What year was the Kiriji war fought ?

Tell me the existing kingdoms in Yoruba land that are direct descendants of Oduduwa .

Anyone that can answer this will get a special prize from me 

Africans focus on your roots and leave arab lullabies to bedouins and arabs .

Gambari pa fulani . . . . .

azharuddin:
Islam has nothing to do with Arabic culture. The Arabic culture when the Prophet Muhammad (saw) started preaching the message of Allah was different. The Arabs were full of drunkards at that time, and indulged in ignorant practices such as female infanticide etc. Its with the coming of Islam the Arabs reformed within 2 decades and the people of Arabia changed to Islamic culture which was new to them. So the Islamic culture has absolutely no relation with the original Arabic culture.

Here again you assumed Islam started with Prophet Muhammad (May peace be upon him). Well he is the last of the Prophets. As Sweetnecta already mentioned there were lots of prophets before Him. The first man Adam(as) is the first Prophet. He relayed the Message of Allah to his children and their progeny. Some of the main Prophets were Nuh(noah)(as), Ibrahim(Abraham)(as), Isa(Jesus)(as).

The Quran address all of mankind not just Arabs. Thats why you will notice that in the Quran Allah says 'O children of Adam' when he addresses to us. So its meant for whole of Mankind. Also It is specified in the Quran:-

"Verily this is no less than a Message to (all) the Worlds: (The Noble Quran, 81:27)"

I hope you get the point. If you learn more about it, you will realize the how you misunderstood.

@azharuddin,even muslims have admitted that the hardline aggressive posture of wahabbism/salafism has its roots in arab,bedouin culture. Anyway thats the story for another day.

Let me talk to my brother in our native tongue

Sweetnecta:
@Congoshine; « #206 on: Today at 08:06:08 PM »both. you meaning your body i take it, housed your soul. both are responsible. Allah will recreate the body and return the soul to it as each of us is, make us bigger, meatier, and punish whosoever He Wishes to punish like that. you need to grow up and this, inchaAllah is my last response because your deception is not difficult for humans to figure out. Imagine how easy it is for The Creator!


i am going along with your imagination. but the reality is that the world, indeed human being the last to be created is much older. The first Word revealed to mankind, Father Adam [as] and his wife Hawa were words of Guidance. They were told [Surah 7 verse 19; And "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat from wherever you will but do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers."]


Noticed that i used [as] after the name of Adam. if you didn't, then here is it, again, Adam [as], the first man created was a prophet [as] and 124,000 prophets created among mankind, ending up with the only one made universal, in his mission, Muhammad [as], the reason he was the last. have you ever heard the expression, saving the best for last? or one is enough?


ma ton ara e. diju e ko she bi pe o ri ron. Olorun to daa e, mo pe iro gidi lo npa. odabo. mio raye fun we re we re ati aga ba ge be too nse. abo oro la nso fun omo luwabi. toba de nu e aa do din di. i don't have your time, so run along, man.

T'oba wa okan  e dada,wa ri wipe iro nla ni esin imale ti oun tele. Gba esin awon baba baba baba e,ma tele esin awon arab. Awon arab o le ka e kun.
Tiwa'n tiwa.

Forget all the rituals or nonsense you hear about Yoruba religion,just as Al Qaeda & Taliban blow up themselves purpotdly for Allah,people can do anything purportedly in the name of Orunmila 

Sweetnecta:
@Congoshine; « #202 on: Today at 02:17:16 PM »it is not the car but the owner of the car who ignored the instruction of the manufacturer who provided the manual where by the instruction to use high octane gas is rejected by the arrogantly ignorant owner and decided to pour what he poured so that the car can be ruined as predicted in the manual.
The Manufacturer in this case is God Almighty.
The car in this case is your soul.
The owner of the car in this case is you.
The manual in this case is The Al Quran which gives you guidance towards right if you navigate it as expected, but if you reject it, the end is sad.
The Salty water you chose is evil; based on arrogance since you are aware of many gas station attendant [azharuddin] telling you what is best.
The High octane gas is submitting your will to Allah and obey him in full obedience and seek His Mercy, and abhor your porous arrogant attitude.


here is a video for you to watch. i hope you will man enough to tell us what you discover in it about islam. http://www.thedeenshow.com/show.php?action=detail&id=872



Alhamdulillah. islam is not an arab religion like judaism. it it were, almost all arabs will be muslims and majority of muslims will be arabs. neither is the case. even after 911 which could have been the kiss of death in the western societies, if islam is what you and others are projecting it from your own concept to be. instead, se waxing strongly and no one can wish islam aware, unless that an one is not under the 'heavens and above the earth' of the Owner of All Power Who has ordained Islam upon mankind.

Nice one.

I like your taking the logical approach.

Now lets assume your metamophoric analogy is correct,who will Allah (the manufacturer) punish? Me or my soul ?

Imagine the world was created lets say 10,000 years ago,Allah only revealed his word Quran 1,400 years ago ?

What happened to all the people that lived before Allah's prophet came? And how come Allah cannot send any other prophet again?

I repeat again - Allah's prophet was sent to Allah's people- Arabs.

Olodumare's prophets were sent to Olodumare's people ditto Krishna,Buddha,Vishnu etc.

Stop swallowing the arab line hook,line & sinker.

Wake up !

You are not making much sense.

Saying azharuddin is spoon feeding me is hogwash. Make sense my friend ,make sense !!!

1.If we follow your analogy and take you as the car in your example,is it the car that poured in salt water into its own tank ? So how can you blame the car if you the owner poured salt water into the tank ?

2.You are making too many assumptions . Its these same assumptions that would make a perfectly normal person blow up himself due to some ill defined 'reward' from Allah. Or cover her face because she will be blessed in heaven

3. Or treat in a denigrating manner so called 'kafirs' (fellow human beings with 2 eyes,ears and other human features),yet condone irrational arab stories,history that have nothing to do with him

Who created this logic ?

If my computer or car refuses to work,will I blame the computer or its manufacturer ? 

The more you try to convince yourself Im sure you're seeing how untenable these your suggestions are.

If you're scared about what people around you will think,don't worry- you can keep it to yourself. 

I said it before - Mallam no get brain

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-652856.0.html

azharuddin:
For not obeying Him. Especially for not accepting His oneness.
Our Creator is extremely superior over us. One should accept his Oneness and Obey his commands. But even if we accept his Oneness we should refrain from disobeying him. But Allah forgives if we repent sincerely out of guilt, out of the love of our Creator. Sometimes even without repentance Allah might forgive because his Mercy is vast. The only thing that Allah does not forgive without repentance is Shirk(associating partners with him). But once one stops it and repents sincerely Allah will forgive, because He looks directly into our hearts and will know if we are sincere or not.

The Creator is so Merciful that He gives sustenance even to the ones who disobey Him. We all die. But we will be resurrected and congregated for Questioning on the Day of Judgment. It is to pass this Judgment that one should strive to obey The Creator.

I was created and programmed by Allah this way my dear ? And this will be made clear to Allah on judgement day

What is the point ?

If Allah wants me not to believe anything else,he would have created me that way.

Now he creates me to think whatever I like & then will punish me for doing this . . . I don't get ?

azharuddin:
You can choose your Path. But don't forget one day we all will be Judged, whether you wanna stay in Denial or not, it wont matter coz it won't change the truth.

Lol !

Judged based on what ?

I am a programmed robot created by Allah,anything I do can be traced directly to Allah the Almighty creator 

Why would I be punished by Allah for been created by him (Allah) ?

@azharuddin,
Thank you for your comments.

I can see from your signature ,you have said you are no scholar & you just copy and paste.

What  I want people to admit is that they DO NOT KNOW !

Rather than ascibe everything you cannot explain to Arabs,arab history,culture and inter-tribal politics and succession or the Arab God - Allah or the Arab devil -Shaytan- just say I CANNOT EXPLAIN !

All these stories just don't add up ,Im afraid.

Sweetnecta:
^^^^^ whats wrong with in the free will that you are given allows you to know the truth and to know the evil?

the choice is yours as your choice destination of paradise or hell is.

simple example that you maybe able to relate to; your teacher provides a written material for you which he gave you a lecture in.


he says that you can pass the quiz and get rewarded by going to higher class. if you fail you actually be punished by demoting you to a lower class and no one will repeat the class and no one will remain in the class of the level you are tested.

paradise is the promotion, hell is the demotion, while earth is the classroom and the test is the book of guidance.


if you fail because of your own free will to not study, who is at fault; your teacher, your classmate who study and pass and get promoted, the classroom, or you who didn't care to listen to any truth and instruct there failed terribly?

So why did Allah set up this elaborate soap opera ? 

If Almighty Allah needed people to punish or reward,why this blockbuster film invoving free will,hell,paradise ,72 virgins etc ?  :
And how come Allah is so misunderstod ? Some blow up themselves for him,some shave their pubic hair because he wants it like that.

Yet natural disasters,disease , poverty, NYSC beheadings etc all these horrible things happen to Allah's people?? Is this part of the script?

Sweetnecta:
@Congoshine; « #185 on: Today at 04:19:57 PM »Merciful extends His Mercy to cover everyone that wants it. If the whole of mankind wants it, it be sufficient to cover everyone.

Allah has provided in mankind an instinct to recognize truth and falsehood, right and wrong. This instinct is the base of our free will to choose guidance or misguidance.

an 'one' who decided by the allure of misguidance when it glitters to reject absolute truth has done so, becoming deaf and blind and hardhearted to truth.

this after they have heard, seen the people on the truth. Allah is just by withdrawing his Mercy from them. He deals with them in just manner by allowing them to continue in their blind rage. If they die in this condition, they can only blame themselves when Justice is metered on them in a just manner.

however while they are on earth, me included, the Mercy of Allah is open to everyone while He withholds His Justice.


you congoshine have heard from the muslims. you have read many a similitude. The Quran is there for you as a guidance. You will have no excuse.

Okay explain it better,please I beg you

Allah created good & bad(or evil).

He(Allah) is good and wants all human beings to be good.

He created human beings and gave them the choice to choose between good & evil.

Then those that choose this 'evil' that Allah created Himself,will be punished severely

Please let me know if this makes any sense to you.

Wake up Africans & free yourselves !!

miftaudeen:
some pple will never see the truth cos ALLAH had blind their inner eye,blocked their hearing.

Allah wants them to know the truth ,yet blinds them & blocks their (h)earing ? 

Think about it again & tell me if it makes sense to you. 

Sweetnecta:
is religion the culprit of the 'backwardness' of Nigeria as you lamented above? of course not.

nigeria need a big dose of sincere patriotism along with religiosity or lack of any. by the way the onifa and other 'real' idol worshipers are evil and unpatriotic just as much as the abrahamaic religions you are complaining about.

if the christians and indeed the muslims are viewed from the authentic prizms of their religions, the beheadings and other cult sacrifices will have to be blamed on the 'african god' worshipers whose ranks you are asking us to join!

patriotism toward Makka was in the heart of the Messenger [as] as he was leaving her for Madina. it was his commitment to the Madinans [ra] that kept him in the new city that fostered Islam which was born 13 years before in the 'Mother of the towns'.

from the actions of the messenger [as] and those who believed with him 'patriotism to nation and commitment to the religion of islam' can co exist just like science islam are in co evistence.

You know I hardly agree with you ,but you have made more sense than I could ever imagine.

Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was an arab from Makkah,like you have observed,he was nationalistic in orientation & loved his country/tribe/city.

Its this quest for improving his people (arabs) that led to most of his writings etc.

But most people now extrapolate all these to their own local environment.

Even Jesus Christ said his message was not for non-Jews (Matt 15:23-26)

I'm not necessarily talking about Ifa religion,but I'm referring to our African/Nigerian/Hausa/Yoruba heritage & culture.

Lets spend a fraction of the time we use on all these arab stories on learning about who we are !

LagosShia:
stay out of this.

religion is a matter of choice.you're free to follow Bayajidda or Oduduwa if you feel they can guide.but how do i follow men that they themselves needed to be guided? anyways that is not the issue,the issue is you have your way and we have ours.there is nothing common between us here.you can use the religion forum to post about your beliefs.

Hey,don't ever ask me to stay out of anything I have a desire to contribute to.

Are you not exhibiting the same tyrannical tendencies you accuse your Arab anti-heroes of ?

Religion has nothing to do with your heritage.

If the basis of religion is Almighty God,why all this soap opera ?

"He was supposed to be Caliph,then there was a coup,they killed his grandson . . .blah,blah ,blah "

Where is GOD in all this drama ?

WAKE UP !!

Really sad to read things like this.

How many of you can explain a fraction of what happened in the life of Bayajjida (for Muhsin & other northerners) of Oduduwa(for LagosShia,lagosBoy,uplawal & other yoruba people) ?

You know so much aboout every single minute aspect of Arab inter-tribal politics,history,culture & religion ,but will be hard pressed to say anything about your own heritage.

I'm sorry for this 'lost' generation.

I really hope our great country can produce men & women that will earnestly seek to know more about where they come from rather than waste time on things that have absolutely no bearing on their lives .

We are absolutely on the same page .

It think its better one admits he doesn't fully understand many things in life but 'it works for him/her' than trying to cast every otehr person as 'kafir' and bad while you and your fellow 'believers' are perfect.

Im also keen to encourage people to learn more about their culture,language & history and not spend all the time trying to understand and absorb arabic language ,culture,religion and inter-tribal politics.

Lets hope some will get the message.

Ohakim obviously had issues.

Perharps his marijuanna was mixed with alligator pepper or he smoked it with recycled paper

The point I ws making is not that human beings 'are inherently evil' !

My point some human beings are evil ,and these evil ones cut across race,tribe religion or sexual orientation .

Claiming the US is responsible for all the problems of the muslim world is just plain fallacy , or positing that a 'few' muslims have 'departed from true Islam' is another rather pitiful hogwash.

Its like claiming that islam somehow confers 'goodness' on every adherent,which errant nonesense.

Open your mind my friend !

One thing I'm sure is that the more determined they are about fighting us,we are much more determined to defeat them.

And good will always overcome evil ! (Insha Allah )

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Please see this MTF's previous posts below & make up your minds on his I.Q.

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LadyT:
Yes hes a nice guy


I will leave the room for congo and Ms Potato

Lol ! Too many coded babes on NL

[quote author=Doris-dey link=topic=665611.msg8305382#msg8305382 date=1305202842]I always hate some of these Yoruba folks.The thread here is about a bad attitude by a high ranking public servant but some silly yorubas are bringing tribal sentiments.If they must know,slapping of a wife is better than having a married Yoruba wife sleeping around.I have more than 5 Yoruba married women that I am doing business with,almost all of them want me to sleep with them despite the fact that they are married,and when I reminded them of their marital status,they will in turn tell me that extra marital affair is nothing in Yoruba land and that they have been sleeping with men and boys even as married wives.

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Sweetnecta:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ he doesn't know tat bit of information about bush snr.

how about the support of reagan/bush snr for iraq against iran who kept yanks as hostages for over 400 days?

have you heard about gobanifah ever?

you know this iran/contra affairs [gate] was what got attorney general casey out of nyc in big soup.


have you ever heard of oliver north, and the others in that group of shadow operation?

kaka ka fi enukan ba ole wi, won nso fun oninkan pe ibi ti o gbe nkan e si o dara.

E wo gan gan l'owe yen bawi. Admit it you're completely blinded by your beliefs.

Well, this is Islamic thread not American thread. No one is saying America is good . I personally have a grudge against them because they have supported corrupt leaders in my country.

My point is -Human beings are generally EVIL. Americans,Christians,Muslims,black ,white etc.

However,typical muslim 'victim ' ideology from conspiracy theorists like you - can never see anything wrong with muslims - no its always the kafirs that control everything.

When Saddam gassed his muslim country men,women & children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack) - its must be America , when he fought against Shia Iran for 7 years and over 1 million people died - it must be the Americans.

He invaded Kuwait because he said it was part of Iraq until the 19th century,surely America is at fault.

When I pray you will a muslim like saddamever be at fault ??

Sweetnecta:
^^^^^^^^^^^ the voice of an insincere disputant.


i am speaking about islam, you are speaking about those who say they are muslim nations.


when person or group claims islam, you look at their core outlook. if it is different from islamic injunction, you point out their flaws to them.
the ruling are Quran and Sunnah, the reason we know that almajiris are far from being Almuhajirun [ra].

iraq of sadaam hussaine invaded kuwait in 1990 not without the knowledge of bush senior who was the vp during the time the same iraq was killing iran, with funds from iran/contra affairs that reagan did not remember what he was doing in a particular day, indirectly pleading 5th.

while i do not say that there are no evils done by muslims. indvidually or nations, none of it can christianity or judaism show us a clean hand from.


if wealth is equal to morality, then america is the most moral country on earth, regardless of the federal deficit. it is in america that we have people claiming to be god[s]. and some extreme immorality like homosexuality, etc are not uncommon.

please dont bring up your humanist agenda over here when you do not even understand the instinct of humanity. you cant argue away your false good nature when you reject divine guidance. this is the reason you think that their is no reason what so ever that human society may morally 'stop' evil in my 'a group checking another' expression.

whats the purpose of life? why are you here?

Lol !!

Rather than admit that Islam has a serious internal problem,you blame it on the 'all powerful kafirs '

The whole world knows there's a problem. Many moderate muslims recognise there's a problem with Islam,violence and blood shedding.

On nairaland the doubters would rather blame some amorphous and ambiguous 3rd party

Imagine "Bush Snr gave Saddam the go-ahed to invade Kuwait"

Mr Joker !